Thinking of stopping finasteride

[CopingCel]

Taking it since 2 month, have watery semen and less ejaculates so far.
The more I read into this stuff the more I am afraid of developing further possible sides, which makes me want to quit this drug as long as I still have the chance too.
Seems like it inhibits way more then just dht production. (Some neurosteroids stuff I have no knowledge off)

Hair systems seem to be very good today and it might be better to get one of them and keep a working dick + brain functionality.

Would love some oppinions on that.

@Darkwill
@Dogs
@LordNorwood
@Mr_Norwood
@Goblin
@SirGey

 

[CopingCel]

You might as well just rope. Being bald is a death sentence

Still have Ru58841 or this as option:

 

[LordNorwood]

Wait for sides to subside imo. Watery semen is not a big deal.

Still have Ru58841 or this as option:

RU is not guaranteed to work well for you and its more expensive. Hair system is literally the most expensive option of all and costs even more than a hair transplant over time. IMO stick to fin, who gives a fuck about watery semen.

 

[Dogs]

What you mean by less ejaculates? Like less volume?

 

[CopingCel]

Wait for sides to subside imo. Watery semen is not a big deal.

RU is not guaranteed to work well for you and its more expensive. Hair system is literally the most expensive option of all and costs even more than a hair transplant over time. IMO stick to fin, who gives a fuck about watery semen.

Don't care for the costs only results will matter. I am currently in the process of building a company to pay for my looksmaxing.
I am getting more afraid of possible mental sides. I am already low t with all accompanied side effects.

What you mean by less ejaculates? Like less volume?

Yes. Initially went down to allmost none, already gotten better but not to the initial volume.

 

[Deleted member 2933]

No one in psl has gotten the finasteride brutal sides. Therefore, keep going.

 

[LordNorwood]

I’m going to untag myself after this reply but my advice is you need to take your 1mg fin and never read a thing about fin again. The Fin placebo is suifuel. Also, for all the research you have been doing it’s pretty common knowledge that you make any and all assessments after the 3 month mark. And you are over here on month 2 asking if you’re going to die. Just chill out mental cel.

This.
Stop over-analyzing, just take the fin and chill. Think of it like taking aspirin.
Best advice I ever got on the subject, credit to @Mayorga

 

[Deleted member 2587]

How old are you

 

[Linoob]

IMO Hairsystem AND hair transplant > all.

Hair transplant for temples / sided (if necessary)

Hair system on top / crown / etc.

You will never get hair system results from a hair transplant (IMO).

I ain't a fan of Finasteride. Too much negativity surrounding it and those that were affected can never go back once they get crushed by it.

Once you try a GOOD hair system, you will likely never turn back.

 

[Void]

I thought fin was giving me ball hurt but it was actually just my chair. Nocebo is real.

 

[CopingCel]

How old are you

24

 

[Deleted member 2587]

24

Post a pic of your hair

 

[CopingCel]

Post a pic of your hair

https://looksmax.org/threads/need-s...wers-how-over-is-it-for-me.85773/post-1482204

 

[Noodlewhore]

I also stopped taking finasteride. Got crazy side effect.
When my hair will go past NW 2,5 I will have an hair transplant.

Hopefully in 2-3 years there will be some drugs that stabilize hairloss without side

 

[CopingCel]

I also stopped taking finasteride. Got crazy side effect.
When my hair will go past NW 2,5 I will have an hair transplant.

Hopefully in 2-3 years there will be some drugs that stabilize hairloss without side

Did they go away after quitting? How long were you on it? Which dose? How long did recovering take?

 

[Deleted member 2587]

When I was on fin I felt like a zombie tbh but it could be due to college stress

 

[CopingCel]

When I was on fin I felt like a zombie tbh but it could be due to college stress

How long were you on it? Did the sides go away? How long till the sides faded?

 

[Deleted member 2587]

How long were you on it? Did the sides go away? How long till the sides faded?

Was on it for like 3 months and the sides went away like 2 weeks

 

[WBC323]

Then don't take fin, it affects the body negatively no matter what we say about it, and save for hair transplant.

 

[Fear]

Taking it since 2 month, have watery semen and less ejaculates so far.
The more I read into this stuff the more I am afraid of developing further possible sides, which makes me want to quit this drug as long as I still have the chance too.
Seems like it inhibits way more then just dht production. (Some neurosteroids stuff I have no knowledge off)

Hair systems seem to be very good today and it might be better to get one of them and keep a working dick + brain functionality.

Would love some oppinions on that.

@Darkwill
@Dogs
@LordNorwood
@Mr_Norwood
@Goblin
@SirGey

The cognitive side effects, if you get them, are no joke. They really shook me up, at least, because I consider my brain my most valuable asset and I had no prior experience with any chemicals that might impair it (I have never drank, have never done recreational drugs, etc.) Perhaps that's a contrarian attitude around here, where looks are the goal at any cost, but the way I see it, your brain can always enable you to become better looking... but your looks cannot save you from cognitive decline.

From that perspective, the choice to quit was very clear to me. I will add though I am not balding and only took finasteride as an experiment to see if it would thicken my hair strands so maybe it wasn't as much of a dilemma as I imagine it might be for others.

Here's what I noticed while on finasteride and after I quit:

My quick wit, long-term recall, and verbal fluidity all gradually suffered. I didn't notice it at first, then about 3-4 weeks in I chalked it up to nothing, but eventually I conceded that it must be finasteride. My mood was overall slightly worse and I found myself irritable and apathetic more often. All of this is in line with what we know about DHT's crucial role in neurosteroid production. I began a regimen of aniracetam and intranasal insulin shortly before I quit finasteride that seems to have averted any long-term damage.

My libido dropped to honestly more manageable but not as fun levels. Now that I am off finasteride, I am back to having sex or jerking off twice or three times a day. (Fortunate timing since I am on a trip and duty called last night/this morning.) Also, and not to get too graphic, my orgasms are stronger, morning/random erections have returned, and semen volume/force of ejaculation has doubled (hopefully soon enough that becomes "tripled.")

I cannot help but laugh at anyone who dismisses finasteride's notorious side effects as imaginary. Just because only 1% of men or whatever it is report experiencing these nasty sides doesn't mean they don't happen, it just means they weren't reported. And is that not surprising? I mean, is it not conceivable that most men in these studies do not take notice or don't make the connection? Frankly, most people are stupid. They are lemmings. Just think about who you know. They don't lead a life of examination, inquiry, or reflection. They don't even have an idea how their own body works. They'll just obediently scarf down whatever society feeds them at face value -- even as it kills them. Canola oil, cigarettes, optometry, Tesla Motors, cubicle serfdom, veganism, egg white omelets. It's all the same, and it's all shit. People have bought shit for centuries. This is no different.

At the same time, I am not denying that some people have a perfectly tolerable time on finasteride. Of course, tolerability is a function of perception, but whatever; if they don't get side effects, then I celebrate their success. Just don't delude yourselves into thinking that taking a hormonal nuclear warhead to the finely-tuned machinery of the human body can't break a few parts here and there.

If you're going to quit, then quit now. Two months you should be able to recover from quickly. Wait much longer, based on anecdotal reports, and you could be stuck with sides for a while.

As for alternatives, I personally wouldn't bother with RU58841 since it can go systemic and the application vehicle involves alcohol.
There are fairly promising competitors with superior side effect profiles/mechanisms of action such as SM04554 and FOL-004 that could be available as soon as next year.

 

[LordNorwood]

https://looksmax.org/threads/need-s...wers-how-over-is-it-for-me.85773/post-1482204

Dude you need fin like you need oxygen tbh

 

[Deleted member 1464]

The cognitive side effects, if you get them, are no joke. They really shook me up, at least, because I consider my brain my most valuable asset and I had no prior experience with any chemicals that might impair it (I have never drank, have never done recreational drugs, etc.) Perhaps that's a contrarian attitude around here, where looks are the goal at any cost, but the way I see it, your brain can always enable you to become better looking... but your looks cannot save you from cognitive decline.

From that perspective, the choice to quit was very clear to me. I will add though I am not balding and only took finasteride as an experiment to see if it would thicken my hair strands so maybe it wasn't as much of a dilemma as I imagine it might be for others.

Here's what I noticed while on finasteride and after I quit:

My quick wit, long-term recall, and verbal fluidity all gradually suffered. I didn't notice it at first, then about 3-4 weeks in I chalked it up to nothing, but eventually I conceded that it must be finasteride. My mood was overall slightly worse and I found myself irritable and apathetic more often. All of this is in line with what we know about DHT's crucial role in neurosteroid production. I began a regimen of aniracetam and intranasal insulin shortly before I quit finasteride that seems to have averted any long-term damage.

My libido dropped to honestly more manageable but not as fun levels. Now that I am off finasteride, I am back to having sex or jerking off twice or three times a day. (Fortunate timing since I am on a trip and duty called last night/this morning.) Also, and not to get too graphic, my orgasms are stronger, morning/random erections have returned, and semen volume/force of ejaculation has doubled (hopefully soon enough that becomes "tripled.")

I cannot help but laugh at anyone who dismisses finasteride's notorious side effects as imaginary. Just because only 1% of men or whatever it is report experiencing these nasty sides doesn't mean they don't happen, it just means they weren't reported. And is that not surprising? I mean, is it not conceivable that most men in these studies do not take notice or don't make the connection? Frankly, most people are stupid. They are lemmings. Just think about who you know. They don't lead a life of examination, inquiry, or reflection. They don't even have an idea how their own body works. They'll just obediently scarf down whatever society feeds them at face value -- even as it kills them. Canola oil, cigarettes, optometry, Tesla Motors, cubicle serfdom, veganism, egg white omelets. It's all the same, and it's all shit. People have bought shit for centuries. This is no different.

At the same time, I am not denying that some people have a perfectly tolerable time on finasteride. Of course, tolerability is a function of perception, but whatever; if they don't get side effects, then I celebrate their success. Just don't delude yourselves into thinking that taking a hormonal nuclear warhead to the finely-tuned machinery of the human body can't break a few parts here and there.

If you're going to quit, then quit now. Two months you should be able to recover from quickly. Wait much longer, based on anecdotal reports, and you could be stuck with sides for a while.

As for alternatives, I personally wouldn't bother with RU58841 since it can go systemic and the application vehicle involves alcohol.
There are fairly promising competitors with superior side effect profiles/mechanisms of action such as SM04554 and FOL-004 that could be available as soon as next year.

SM next year??
More like 10 years.

What is your hormonal profile like OP?
Did you bother to get it checked?

 

[Vidyacoper]

they need to make a cure for hairloss asap reading all of this and realising im gonna start balding in my early 20s is depressing

 

[Ogmanman]

Literally just get a hair system bruh

You Can roid without worry

Who cares if it’s expensive overtime. It’s literally like a 1000 a year you have to be dirt broke and a bum to not be able to afford that.

Plus hair systems are superior in every way to hair transplant

Also lastly it’s better to have peace of mind compared to a broken dick and a damaged mind and permanently fucked collagen.

Literally don’t listen to these guys bandwagoning fin. They are taking a cuck drug for the sole reason they’re afraid of people judging them on a hair system. When you can literally either not give a fuck or just take 5 minutes out your day to think of a good excuse.

If your not comfortable with fin your not comfortable with it. End of story.

 

[livelaughlooksmax]

As for alternatives, I personally wouldn't bother with RU58841 since it can go systemic and the application vehicle involves alcohol.

Are you sure? When on fin/dut my bodyhair falls out and turns light, then returns after ceasing medication. Now on ru58841 for 2 months and my hairloss is halted, while body hair keeps increasing.

 

[Deleted member 4209]

keep at it for a while see if things improve

nothing worse than being bald

 

[Deleted member 2933]

Stop taking it OP, fin is not for high inhibcels

 

[CopingCel]

SM next year??
More like 10 years.

What is your hormonal profile like OP?
Did you bother to get it checked?

Did sleep only 3 hours before which could have afftected it a bit.

keep at it for a while see if things improve

nothing worse than being bald

While my overall shedding seems not to have improved, still losing 40-50 hairs when groing through my hair for 5 min after showering, hairs on the front and temples seem to have regrown a bit.

Literally just get a hair system bruh

You Can roid without worry

Who cares if it’s expensive overtime. It’s literally like a 1000 a year you have to be dirt broke and a bum to not be able to afford that.

Plus hair systems are superior in every way to hair transplant

Also lastly it’s better to have peace of mind compared to a broken dick and a damaged mind and permanently fucked collagen.

Literally don’t listen to these guys bandwagoning fin. They are taking a cuck drug for the sole reason they’re afraid of people judging them on a hair system. When you can literally either not give a fuck or just take 5 minutes out your day to think of a good excuse.

If your not comfortable with fin your not comfortable with it. End of story.

That's exactly what I am currently thinking.

 

[LordNorwood]

Literally just get a hair system bruh

You Can roid without worry

Who cares if it’s expensive overtime. It’s literally like a 1000 a year you have to be dirt broke and a bum to not be able to afford that.

Plus hair systems are superior in every way to hair transplant

Also lastly it’s better to have peace of mind compared to a broken dick and a damaged mind and permanently fucked collagen.

Literally don’t listen to these guys bandwagoning fin. They are taking a cuck drug for the sole reason they’re afraid of people judging them on a hair system. When you can literally either not give a fuck or just take 5 minutes out your day to think of a good excuse.

If your not comfortable with fin your not comfortable with it. End of story.

For me its not fear of judgment, I just want my real hair. Can't deny hair systems look better than even real hair does.

 

[Deleted member 1464]

Did sleep only 3 hours before which could have afftected it a bit.

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While my overall shedding seems not to have improved, still losing 40-50 hairs when groing through my hair for 5 min after showering, hairs on the front and temples seem to have regrown a bit.




That's exactly what I am currently thinking.

Your test is ok......
Yet still on the lower side.
I theorise its only people who have lower test/dht who get sides.... it would make sense
My test was 820, I forget my DHT levels prior to fin... don't have results with me rn, but it was proportional to my test levels more or less.
I have no side effects.

 

[CopingCel]

Your test is ok......
Yet still on the lower side.
I theorise its only people who have lower test/dht who get sides.... it would make sense
My test was 820, I forget my DHT levels prior to fin... don't have results with me rn, but it was proportional to my test levels more or less.
I have no side effects.

Look at the free test. It is way below normal. According to r/testosterone that is the important value for mood.

But that indeed sounds legit, sad that there is no data in that sense. But what pharma company would try to proof their product to be unsafe after it is approved.

Also my DHT was already on the low side from which I conclude that my hairs are very sensitive to it.

 

[Fear]

Look at the free test. It is way below normal. According to r/testosterone that is the important value for mood.

But that indeed sounds legit, sad that there is no data in that sense. But what pharma company would try to proof their product to be unsafe after it is approved.

Also my DHT was already on the low side from which I conclude that my hairs are very sensitive to it.

I just saw your pics in your other thread. Are you losing hair at all, or is that how your hairline has always been? Because your hair looks quite thick, and assuming you're not seeing any shedding or regression, I don't think you even need finasteride. A naturally high hairline/large forehead can be fixed with a forehead reduction surgery.

 

[Lorsss]

Taking it since 2 month, have watery semen and less ejaculates so far.
The more I read into this stuff the more I am afraid of developing further possible sides, which makes me want to quit this drug as long as I still have the chance too.
Seems like it inhibits way more then just dht production. (Some neurosteroids stuff I have no knowledge off)

Hair systems seem to be very good today and it might be better to get one of them and keep a working dick + brain functionality.

Would love some oppinions on that.

@Darkwill
@Dogs
@LordNorwood
@Mr_Norwood
@Goblin
@SirGey

I am sure your side effects are due to the placebo effect

 

[CopingCel]

I just saw your pics in your other thread. Are you losing hair at all, or is that how your hairline has always been? Because your hair looks quite thick, and assuming you're not seeing any shedding or regression, I don't think you even need finasteride. A naturally high hairline/large forehead can be fixed with a forehead reduction surgery.

My hairline was indeed always a bit on the hight side, but my temples are still receeding slowly.

Judging my fathers situation, I am highly likely to recede more.
My father does not have diffuse thinning, just his hairline receeded more and more on the temples.

 

[Nosecel]

God, balding is fucking scary af, being bald = fucking death

 

[CopingCel]

I am sure your side effects are due to the placebo effect

Don't care much about the current sides of semen production. But I am afraid of possible future mental ones.
I laughed at all the high inhibcels as well when I was not taking it myself, but you become a bit more careful as soon as it is your own body that is at stake.

 

[AllBrainsNeedednow]

why would you stop taking it then? this is some weird fucking logic. as in not really logical. But I did read the first page post and I will say that hair implant really makes sense. over the same time period a hair transplant costs almost the same as a hair system but no one can fuck with you about it. its YOUR REAL hair and maybe it doesn't look Quite as good, as a system but fuck it. can you even go in a pool or walk around aircraft etc with a hair system? maybe you can but I wouldn't chance it. what happens when you shower or it rains and what happens to the skin underneath. I'm just not convinced. what about if you do BJJ? I just think it seems like a cope. It might work on Tinder to be honest, but LTR. you better have banged this shit to hell many times before you let her know cuz her respect some serious points. Enough that she will start keeping her eyes peeled for Chads. Trust me.

The other option is hairline lowering too. but I'm starting to become skeptical.

 

[GreenHat500]

The cognitive side effects, if you get them, are no joke. They really shook me up, at least, because I consider my brain my most valuable asset and I had no prior experience with any chemicals that might impair it (I have never drank, have never done recreational drugs, etc.) Perhaps that's a contrarian attitude around here, where looks are the goal at any cost, but the way I see it, your brain can always enable you to become better looking... but your looks cannot save you from cognitive decline.

From that perspective, the choice to quit was very clear to me. I will add though I am not balding and only took finasteride as an experiment to see if it would thicken my hair strands so maybe it wasn't as much of a dilemma as I imagine it might be for others.

Here's what I noticed while on finasteride and after I quit:

My quick wit, long-term recall, and verbal fluidity all gradually suffered. I didn't notice it at first, then about 3-4 weeks in I chalked it up to nothing, but eventually I conceded that it must be finasteride. My mood was overall slightly worse and I found myself irritable and apathetic more often. All of this is in line with what we know about DHT's crucial role in neurosteroid production. I began a regimen of aniracetam and intranasal insulin shortly before I quit finasteride that seems to have averted any long-term damage.

My libido dropped to honestly more manageable but not as fun levels. Now that I am off finasteride, I am back to having sex or jerking off twice or three times a day. (Fortunate timing since I am on a trip and duty called last night/this morning.) Also, and not to get too graphic, my orgasms are stronger, morning/random erections have returned, and semen volume/force of ejaculation has doubled (hopefully soon enough that becomes "tripled.")

I cannot help but laugh at anyone who dismisses finasteride's notorious side effects as imaginary. Just because only 1% of men or whatever it is report experiencing these nasty sides doesn't mean they don't happen, it just means they weren't reported. And is that not surprising? I mean, is it not conceivable that most men in these studies do not take notice or don't make the connection? Frankly, most people are stupid. They are lemmings. Just think about who you know. They don't lead a life of examination, inquiry, or reflection. They don't even have an idea how their own body works. They'll just obediently scarf down whatever society feeds them at face value -- even as it kills them. Canola oil, cigarettes, optometry, Tesla Motors, cubicle serfdom, veganism, egg white omelets. It's all the same, and it's all shit. People have bought shit for centuries. This is no different.

At the same time, I am not denying that some people have a perfectly tolerable time on finasteride. Of course, tolerability is a function of perception, but whatever; if they don't get side effects, then I celebrate their success. Just don't delude yourselves into thinking that taking a hormonal nuclear warhead to the finely-tuned machinery of the human body can't break a few parts here and there.

If you're going to quit, then quit now. Two months you should be able to recover from quickly. Wait much longer, based on anecdotal reports, and you could be stuck with sides for a while.

As for alternatives, I personally wouldn't bother with RU58841 since it can go systemic and the application vehicle involves alcohol.
There are fairly promising competitors with superior side effect profiles/mechanisms of action such as SM04554 and FOL-004 that could be available as soon as next year.

"because I consider my brain my most valuable asset and I had no prior experience with any chemicals that might impair it (I have never drank, have never done recreational drugs, etc.)"

But still, you take low dose Accutane am I right? Isn't Accutane known for having quite many side effects to the brain?

 

[Repentsinner]

The cognitive side effects, if you get them, are no joke. They really shook me up, at least, because I consider my brain my most valuable asset and I had no prior experience with any chemicals that might impair it (I have never drank, have never done recreational drugs, etc.) Perhaps that's a contrarian attitude around here, where looks are the goal at any cost, but the way I see it, your brain can always enable you to become better looking... but your looks cannot save you from cognitive decline.

From that perspective, the choice to quit was very clear to me. I will add though I am not balding and only took finasteride as an experiment to see if it would thicken my hair strands so maybe it wasn't as much of a dilemma as I imagine it might be for others.

Here's what I noticed while on finasteride and after I quit:

My quick wit, long-term recall, and verbal fluidity all gradually suffered. I didn't notice it at first, then about 3-4 weeks in I chalked it up to nothing, but eventually I conceded that it must be finasteride. My mood was overall slightly worse and I found myself irritable and apathetic more often. All of this is in line with what we know about DHT's crucial role in neurosteroid production. I began a regimen of aniracetam and intranasal insulin shortly before I quit finasteride that seems to have averted any long-term damage.

My libido dropped to honestly more manageable but not as fun levels. Now that I am off finasteride, I am back to having sex or jerking off twice or three times a day. (Fortunate timing since I am on a trip and duty called last night/this morning.) Also, and not to get too graphic, my orgasms are stronger, morning/random erections have returned, and semen volume/force of ejaculation has doubled (hopefully soon enough that becomes "tripled.")

I cannot help but laugh at anyone who dismisses finasteride's notorious side effects as imaginary. Just because only 1% of men or whatever it is report experiencing these nasty sides doesn't mean they don't happen, it just means they weren't reported. And is that not surprising? I mean, is it not conceivable that most men in these studies do not take notice or don't make the connection? Frankly, most people are stupid. They are lemmings. Just think about who you know. They don't lead a life of examination, inquiry, or reflection. They don't even have an idea how their own body works. They'll just obediently scarf down whatever society feeds them at face value -- even as it kills them. Canola oil, cigarettes, optometry, Tesla Motors, cubicle serfdom, veganism, egg white omelets. It's all the same, and it's all shit. People have bought shit for centuries. This is no different.

At the same time, I am not denying that some people have a perfectly tolerable time on finasteride. Of course, tolerability is a function of perception, but whatever; if they don't get side effects, then I celebrate their success. Just don't delude yourselves into thinking that taking a hormonal nuclear warhead to the finely-tuned machinery of the human body can't break a few parts here and there.

If you're going to quit, then quit now. Two months you should be able to recover from quickly. Wait much longer, based on anecdotal reports, and you could be stuck with sides for a while.

As for alternatives, I personally wouldn't bother with RU58841 since it can go systemic and the application vehicle involves alcohol.
There are fairly promising competitors with superior side effect profiles/mechanisms of action such as SM04554 and FOL-004 that could be available as soon as next year.

retarded scientists