Thinking on competing on 2023 (17 years old)

[Arminius]

I have zero experience with steroid use so I don't know, because the rules are different for enhanced lifters, because they can actually be really big without being very strong, just by training with very high volume. Naturals have to get strong to get big, that is the difference.

That is why, a natural lifter will have muscle size that is much more proportional to his strength level and he won't look big unless he is very strong. Guys who take steroids can be very weak while looking huge.

thats my phyique right now

i got to finish the year with a similar size like that to compete in 2023 at nationals

 

[Arminius]

Get your bench press to 315 lbs
Get your overhead press to 225 lbs
Get your squat to 405 lbs
Get your deadlift to 500 lbs

And on steroids, you could easily surpass those numbers and reach:

A 405 lb bench press
a 500 lb squat
a 600 lb deadlift


If you use machines, that is fine, the only problem you are going to have is when you get too strong for the highest amount of weight, that is where barbells come into play.

To know if you are really strong, use the website strengthlevel.com and aim for advanced to elite level.

It has been proven that the more drugs you use, the stronger you get and the better your genetics are, the bigger you will get as a result.

i already proved strenght level, im considered advanced in all my lifts, my bench is almost 80 lbs above my body weight

 

[randomuser2407]

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thats my phyique right now
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i got to finish the year with a similar size like that to compete in 2023 at nationals

Right now, you have a physique that is achievable naturally within 2-3 years.

The reason why you are not as big as you want to be is because you need to get a lot stronger.

 

[randomuser2407]

i already proved strenght level, im considered advanced in all my lifts, my bench is almost 80 lbs above my body weight

Bodyweight multipliers don't matter. What matters is your absolute strength level, so how much you can lift.

Intermediate is: overhead press 135 lbs, bench press 225 lbs, squat 315 lb, deadlift 405 lbs.

You're not advanced until you can overhead press 200 lbs, bench press 300 lbs, squat 400 lbs, and deadlift 500 lbs.

Elite would be: overhead press 275 lbs, bench press 400 lbs, squat 600 lbs, deadlift 700 lbs.

 

[Arminius]

Right now, you have a physique that is achievable naturally within 2-3 years.

The reason why you are not as big as you want to be is because you need to get a lot stronger.

yup, but im always maingaining, i never bulk up, i managed to kept my body fat getting stronger and bigger, also my doses are low

 

[randomuser2407]

yup, but im always maingaining, i never bulk up, i managed to kept my body fat getting stronger and bigger, also my doses are low

While maingaining does work on steroids, you're making a lot less gains than if you were bulking, that is what is limiting you the most, you're wasting your cycles.

 

[Arminius]

While maingaining does work on steroids, you're making a lot less gains than if you were bulking, that is what is limiting you the most, you're wasting your cycles.

i will bulk once i get mor mass, after competing i will do a proper bulk, but thats once i can afford hgh, slin, higher doses, and some t3
my plan is keep my lean bulk till december and start leaning out in january, an compete in march or april at nationakl in mens physique, npc, mexican overall nationals and im my province
do u see doable the size of the guy i showed u ???

 

[Arminius]

Bodyweight multipliers don't matter. What matters is your absolute strength level, so how much you can lift.

Intermediate is: overhead press 135 lbs, bench press 225 lbs, squat 315 lb, deadlift 405 lbs.

You're not advanced until you can overhead press 200 lbs, bench press 300 lbs, squat 400 lbs, and deadlift 500 lbs.

Elite would be: overhead press 275 lbs, bench press 400 lbs, squat 600 lbs, deadlift 700 lbs.

it matters at some point but i dont really think so, imagine the srenght difference between trystin lee, jeff seid and ronnie coleman, ovbiously their bodyweight matters a lot as well.
at leats matters most in terms of physique

 

[Arminius]

I have zero experience with steroid use so I don't know, because the rules are different for enhanced lifters, because they can actually be really big without being very strong, just by training with very high volume. Naturals have to get strong to get big, that is the difference.

That is why, a natural lifter will have muscle size that is much more proportional to his strength level and he won't look big unless he is very strong. Guys who take steroids can be very weak while looking huge.

do u see doable for me reaching this size finishing this year ???

 

[Deprived]

Natural bodybuilding competitions are a complete joke nowadays, because everyone in them are taking steroids anyways.

So, it is impossible to win a bodybuilding competition unless you take steroids.

And even if you take steroids, you are not even guaranteed of winning because the people who win are those who have the best genetics and who use the most dangerous cocktails of drugs imaginable (HGH, Insulin, Anavar, Trenbolone, with Testosterone). Testosterone is the safest anabolic steroid you can use, but the rest should be avoided to minimize side effects as much as possible. And like I said many times, it is possible to build a very impressive physique without drugs, and there are many examples of very aesthetic naturals including:

AlphaDestiny
Alec Enkiri
Scott Herman
Brandon Campbell Diamond
Omar Isuf
Alan Thrall
Vitruvian Physique
Kinobody
CanditoTrainingHQ


Also, Zack Jennings isn't natural, just looking at that photo is enough to see that:

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Not even 30-40 years of natural training will get you shoulders of that level of size. He must have been injecting steroids into his delts for a very long time. That is not just one cycle but many.



Here you can see realistic expectations for natural lifters:

Proof that muscles can improve your looks by a lot

Nobody looks like that irl, go to any gym and everyone will look like trash.

looksmax.org

Also, this can be achieved in 6-12 months of serious training:

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Brad pitt from fight club can be achieved within a year. His physique from Troy and cavill will take atleast 2 years tbh

 

[randomuser2407]

Brad pitt from fight club can be achieved within a year. His physique from Troy and cavill will take atleast 2 years tbh

Yes, that is exactly what I said.

 

[Deprived]

Yes, that is exactly what I said.

You said both were achievable in a year but those are different physiques

 

[randomuser2407]

it matters at some point but i dont really think so, imagine the srenght difference between trystin lee, jeff seid and ronnie coleman, ovbiously their bodyweight matters a lot as well.
at leats matters most in terms of physique

Arnold was huge because he was very strong, same thing for Ronnie Coleman.

Sure, you can look big without getting very strong as an enhanced guy, but if you want to maximize your muscle building potential, you're going to have to get stronger.

 

[randomuser2407]

You said both were achievable in a year but those are different physiques

No, I showed Henry Cavill in Immortals, not Henry Cavill in Man of Steel.

Henry Cavill in Immortals is actually less impressive than Brad Pitt in Fight Club because his arms are smaller and he isn't as ripped.