Thinking / waiting for a random girl to appear has cost me dearly

I wonder if @Gengar suffers the same fate (you both have similar ages but he’s like 27)
I’m a dateless 28 year old khhv and also a neet. He’s 29, not a virgin, has a degree, has a job, has money. He lifemogs me to death.
 
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I’m a dateless 28 year old khhv and also a neet. He’s 29, not a virgin, has a degree, has a job, has money. He lifemogs me to death.
Fair enough I remember being NEET and it was hell. Although I do sometimes miss it because of work stress....

However we are mentally different. It seems you've accepted your fate (or maybe knowingly know you have a HTB lined up back at home) however I am stuck in a rut and have no way out from inceldom and psychologically killing myself to ascend..
 
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I never went out of my way to find a partner. Because of that I will pay for the rest of my life.

I'll never forgive myself for believing in the bullshit "there is someone for everyone". It's a mathematical inevitably bro.
Ofc it’s a bullshit myth. You’re a man, if you want to find “somebody” by existing you need to be a woman then men will jsut appr you. If you’re a man it’s hard. I myself don’t even get angry anymore with my situation I have genuinely tried and I’m done, I throw in the white flag I know when I’m old I’ll not have any regrets as I knew I TRIED
 
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Ofc it’s a bullshit myth. You’re a man, if you want to find “somebody” by existing you need to be a woman then men will jsut appr you. If you’re a man it’s hard. I myself don’t even get angry anymore with my situation I have genuinely tried and I’m done, I throw in the white flag I know when I’m old I’ll not have any regrets as I knew I TRIED
I'm in my late 20s, I thought women 25+ would cave in to situation and become realistic. It's not happening. Every day gives me anxiety thinking maybe I should settle for LTB as they probably won't give me a chance in 5 years either (assuming I'm still single which I most likely will be).
 
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I'm in my late 20s, I thought women 25+ would cave in to situation and become realistic. It's not happening. Every day gives me anxiety thinking maybe I should settle for LTB as they probably won't give me a chance in 5 years either (assuming I'm still single which I most likely will be).
Hmm at least you’re giving me a warning. I’m in mid 20s now so I anticipate ending up in your situation. I am optimistic that I’ll get a bitch once I migrate from the United Shitdom as any British man should be a master blagger considering our women are the hardest foids to chat up hence why most incels are British ratio wise.

Crazy to think that britcels are more common than chink and currycels from curry and chinkland
 
Hmm at least you’re giving me a warning. I’m in mid 20s now so I anticipate ending up in your situation. I am optimistic that I’ll get a bitch once I migrate from the United Shitdom as any British man should be a master blagger considering our women are the hardest foids to chat up hence why most incels are British ratio wise.

Crazy to think that britcels are more common than chink and currycels from curry and chinkland
UK is fucking cursed. I ran some analysis on my OLD profile. When I was in the UK 1 out of every 17ish profile liked me.

However when I geofrauded my location to Canada it was like 1 in 8 and USA was like 1 in 9, so practically twice as much. Unlike UK I was getting all kinds of ethnics and better quality.

Also I turned 29 last month. The average profile viewer when I was 28 was like 25-28. As soon as I turned 29, average profile viewer jumped to 27-30. I'm pretty sure when I hit that psychological milestone of 30, I'll be in roastie territory as mid-20s women will just giga filter me out.
 
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UK is fucking cursed. I ran some analysis on my OLD profile. When I was in the UK 1 out of every 17ish profile liked me.

However when I geofrauded my location to Canada it was like 1 in 8 and USA was like 1 in 9, so practically twice as much. Unlike UK I was getting all kinds of ethnics and better quality.

Also I turned 29 last month. The average profile viewer when I was 28 was like 25-28. As soon as I turned 29, average profile viewer jumped to 27-30. I'm pretty sure when I hit that psychological milestone of 30, I'll be in roastie territory as mid-20s women will just giga filter me out.
@Blackgymmax take note you coping Canadian cuck. Britshitland is far herder than anywhere else including Canada. JFL even dating apps know it’s over for men so they give us older whores. And then niggas wonder why I larp as a 22 yr old to fuck 18 year old girls.

My advice is to lie about your age, hoes don’t need to know shit
 
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thats literally what happens though in most cases
 
Fair enough I remember being NEET and it was hell. Although I do sometimes miss it because of work stress....

However we are mentally different. It seems you've accepted your fate (or maybe knowingly know you have a HTB lined up back at home) however I am stuck in a rut and have no way out from inceldom and psychologically killing myself to ascend..
Part of the reason I used to drop out again was because I missed NEETing. Anyway, no, I wish that were true but there's no one lined up for me. I'm as single as they come. The thing is, you have a couple of requirements which make it harder for you to ascend. Can you get a wife? Easily, you got everything that's necessary. But you have too many requirements. By claiming they have to be virgin, you already are singling out nearly all women. I've brought it up before but since you're not a virgin yourself, I don't think it's fair to dismiss someone on not being a virgin. You also insist on an MTB, but it seems you are inconsistent with your ratings. I've seen your matches and there were definitely MTBs there, but you still overlook them. Can you find a virgin MTB? I doubt it. Can you find a non-virgin MTB? Absolutely.
 
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Part of the reason I used to drop out again was because I missed NEETing. Anyway, no, I wish that were true but there's no one lined up for me. I'm as single as they come. The thing is, you have a couple of requirements which make it harder for you to ascend. Can you get a wife? Easily, you got everything that's necessary. But you have too many requirements. By claiming they have to be virgin, you already are singling out nearly all women. I've brought it up before but since you're not a virgin yourself, I don't think it's fair to dismiss someone on not being a virgin. You also insist on an MTB, but it seems you are inconsistent with your ratings. I've seen your matches and there were definitely MTBs there, but you still overlook them. Can you find a virgin MTB? I doubt it. Can you find a non-virgin MTB? Absolutely.
You have literally NEVER tried and put yourself out there (neither did I most of my life). You have been scarred by oneitis fever (so have I but at least I move on). My point is you seem more comfortable and doing nothing - something which I'm pretty sure you'll regret.

Given you think 99% of women 25+ are non-virgin most of your comment is irrelevant. Yes I've had rare MTBs like me but even when I match back they all ghost or don't communicate, so no, I cannot easily find an MTB whatever the circumstances. If that were the case I would be HTN SMV which I am not.
 
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You have literally NEVER tried and put yourself out there (neither did I most of my life). You have been scarred by oneitis fever (so have I but at least I move on). My point is you seem more comfortable and doing nothing - something which I'm pretty sure you'll regret.

Given you think 99% of women 25+ are non-virgin most of your comment is irrelevant. Yes I've had rare MTBs like me but even when I match back they all ghost or don't communicate, so no, I cannot easily find an MTB whatever the circumstances.
Well, what's the point of putting yourself out there if you already know the outcome? I did put myself once out there and we all know that ended. And a slight correction, I do not *think* that 99% of women aged 25 or older are non-virgins, I *KNOW* they are non-virgins. My comment isn't irrelevant because we are talking about you and your experiences. My personal experience is what's actually irrelevant right now. What I meant by your inconsistency in rating women is that you rated some MTBs as LTBs and vice versa.
 
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Well, what's the point of putting yourself out there if you already know the outcome? I did put myself once out there and we all know that ended.
THIS IS YOUR EXACT PROBLEM NIGGAH

Maybe you're staceysexual idk. I get what you mean by the second part. I've not been officially rejected (after all I've never approached), maybe if I did I wouldve been scarred too.

And a slight correction, I do not *think* that 99% of women aged 25 or older are non-virgins, I *KNOW* they are non-virgins. My comment isn't irrelevant because we are talking about you and your experiences. My personal experience is what's actually irrelevant right now. What I meant by your inconsistency in rating women is that you rated some MTBs as LTBs and vice versa.
We just have different tastes. I'm cursed because I 'overrate' (my personal preference) for MENA women. But I don't consider that me overlooking an MTB or being inconsistent.

I can't lie about my OWN ratings. If I genuinely think an Arab who is considered LTB by the whole world is an MTB ofc I'd go for her over a curry girl the whole world match consider MTB, but I consider her LTB.
 
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THIS IS YOUR EXACT PROBLEM NIGGAH

Maybe you're staceysexual idk. I get what you mean by the second part. I've not been officially rejected (after all I've never approached), maybe if I did I wouldve been scarred too.


We just have different tastes. I'm cursed because I 'overrate' (my personal preference) for MENA women. But I don't consider that me overlooking an MTB or being inconsistent.

I can't lie about my OWN ratings. If I genuinely think an Arab who is considered LTB by the whole world is an MTB ofc I'd go for her over a curry girl the whole world match consider MTB, but I consider her LTB.
I'm not stacysexual, I'm actually asexual. That might be the real problem as I'm not downbad enough to pursue puss puss. And good to know you know where I'm coming from at least. Negative experiences can mess up with your psyche after all. This story starts in high school. The thing is, I saw quite a decent amount of women that you considered LTBs even though I considered them to be MTBs, which is funny because normally you accuse me of underrating women. Anyway, why not pull all your punches and also go to a muzz event? I know there were a few in the UK.
 
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I'm not stacysexual, I'm actually asexual. That might be the real problem as I'm not downbad enough to pursue puss puss.
Okay that's different to not pursuing women because you prejudge and think you'll reject them from the get to.
And good to know you know where I'm coming from at least. Negative experiences can mess up with your psyche after all. This story starts in high school. The thing is, I saw quite a decent amount of women that you considered LTBs even though I considered them to be MTBs, which is funny because normally you accuse me of underrating women.
Maybe I've fried my dopamine receptors into only finding middle Eastern phenos attractives..

Your ratings for ethnics is far lower than white women, son I'm surprised you're saying that. I know I'm the outlier as well, since I don't find white women that attractive and on par with gooks.
Anyway, why not pull all your punches and also go to a muzz event? I know there were a few in the UK.
You know I'm far too high inhib to show my face anywhere.
 
Okay that's different to not pursuing women because you prejudge and think you'll reject them from the get to.

Maybe I've fried my dopamine receptors into only finding middle Eastern phenos attractives..

Your ratings for ethnics is far lower than white women, son I'm surprised you're saying that. I know I'm the outlier as well, since I don't find white women that attractive and on par with gooks.

You know I'm far too high inhib to show my face anywhere.
Yeah, if I had any sort of hope that I wouldn't get rejected then things wouldn't be like this. However women don't want to give me a chance because of my unattractive face. Well, you are entitled to your preferences. Personally, I think women from all races can be attractive from an objective point of view, with the highest concentration of attractive women in Europeans and the lowest concentration of attractive women in South Asians. I see plenty of objectively attractive MENA women in real life often as well. Well, facially, you are at least an MTN but you might be failo'd by your height. It's definitely not a looks thing.
 
Well this conversation between you two has been quite insightful for me as a youngcel
 
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Well this conversation between you two has been quite insightful for me as a youngcel
Thanks bhai but just remember @Gengar exaggerates everything he says.

Him being NEET and "trucel" (larp) and me being careermaxxed and MTN makes no difference to our situations only mentality.
 
Thanks bhai but just remember @Gengar exaggerates everything he says.

Him being NEET and "trucel" (larp) and me being careermaxxed and MTN makes no difference to our situations only mentality.
Thanks bhai but just remember @Gengar exaggerates everything he says.

Him being NEET and "trucel" (larp) and me being careermaxxed and MTN makes no difference to our situations only mentality.
Don't listen to that guy. I'm facially unattractive, a dateless 28 year old khhv. If that doesn't make me a truecel then I don't know what does. However, your being careermaxxed is definitely a huge factor because it means you can financially support your wife as well as a potential family, which is a must.
 
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I’m a dateless 28 year old khhv and also a neet. He’s 29, not a virgin, has a degree, has a job, has money. He lifemogs me to death.
You have religion and faith. Does that not fulfill you?
 
You have religion and faith. Does that not fulfill you?
Religion and faith is kinda the same thing isn't it? Having said that, in Islamic communities they say that being married is half of your deen. Deen means faith. Therefore, being a dateless khhv is seen as a detriment even in our circles, one that makes us incomplete even spiritually/religiously, albeit we don't allow dating, so you can just interpret that as "non-married."
 
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Waiting is a disease, a terminal illness. It only leads to death.

You decide your own destiny by taking action.
 
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Don't listen to that guy. I'm facially unattractive, a dateless 28 year old khhv. If that doesn't make me a truecel then I don't know what does. However, your being careermaxxed is definitely a huge factor because it means you can financially support your wife as well as a potential family, which is a must.
I don't think you understand, when finances are almost equalised between genders, women (even older ones) place a higher premium on looks/height and would go for broke Chadlite and "fix him" rather than careermaxxed MTNs.
 
I don't think you understand, when finances are almost equalised between genders, women (even older ones) place a higher premium on looks/height and would go for broke Chadlite and "fix him" rather than careermaxxed MTNs.
There will always be women who want a betabux. Nothing will change that until we live in a compete utopia
 
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I don't think you understand, when finances are almost equalised between genders, women (even older ones) place a higher premium on looks/height and would go for broke Chadlite and "fix him" rather than careermaxxed MTNs.
I see the point you're making. You're saying financial stability among women has led to them seeing one's financial status as a background thingy rather than at the forefront. I do think that in today's age it's having your finances in order is a must for women. You stand a chance somewhat thanks to this. Now imagine if you were a NEET with no money, degree or job like me. Not even your looks as an MTN could make up for it.
 
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I see the point you're making. You're saying financial stability among women has led to them seeing one's financial status as a background thingy rather than at the forefront. I do think that in today's age it's having your finances in order is a must for women. You stand a chance somewhat thanks to this. Now imagine if you were a NEET with no money, degree or job like me. Not even your looks as an MTN could make up for it.
Yes I'll be in a worse situation for sure.

*I stand a chance with femcels and landwhales not my looksmatch even if she worked as a cleaner.

There will always be women who want a betabux. Nothing will change that until we live in a compete utopia
There will but not as much as before. My own sister is 30+ and financially mogs 95% of people her age. She genuinely doesn't need a guy for financial reasons, but I still hear her say men need to be breadwinners. She has been paired with gigarich breadwinners before but rejected them? Why - because looks/height mattered more. Their wealth doesn't matter even when they say it does and does not compensate as much as it used to.
 
There will but not as much as before. My own sister is 30+ and financially mogs 95% of people her age. She genuinely doesn't need a guy for financial reasons, but I still hear her say men need to be breadwinners. She has been paired with gigarich breadwinners before but rejected them? Why - because looks/height mattered more. Their wealth doesn't matter even when they say it does and does not compensate as much as it used to.
The inequality between rich and poor will likely keep getting worse and some women are just lazy
 
Yes I'll be in a worse situation for sure.

*I stand a chance with femcels and landwhales not my looksmatch even if she worked as a cleaner.
Yeah, so you can see how fucked I am, really. The situation is bleak. Especially because of my asexuality. Also, here's some lifefuel for you perhaps. The other day I saw the wife of my Turkish neighbor for the first time. I met the guy before, he's an overweight weak MTN at best. And his wife? She's Turkish as well but also at the very least an HTB. She's very good-looking, ma sha Allah. My neighbor is really blessed, ma sha Allah. They were both born and raised here. I just always assumed his wife was a femcel/LTB or something but damn, miracles still happen in today's world. They have two children together. I remember my brother telling me about the discrepancy between their looks levels but I never had seen her so I wasn't able to tell. She wears hijab also.
 
The inequality between rich and poor will likely keep getting worse and some women are just lazy
Rich and poor is relative. We will all get better off, but out relative perceptions of deprivation will increase.

30/40 years ago if you had a car, TV, fridge freezer, PC/internet you was conventionally well of. This is just a common needs now of any developed western nation.

Your logic applies more to other societies tbh.
 
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Just rope tbh
 
Rich and poor is relative. We will all get better off, but out relative perceptions of deprivation will increase.

30/40 years ago if you had a car, TV, fridge freezer, PC/internet you was conventionally well of. This is just a common needs now of any developed western nation.

Your logic applies more to other societies tbh.
True tbh.

This argument is retarded in the first place because betwbuxxing is arguably worse than being an incel.

Chad sex and starfish sex are 2 different worlds.
 
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Yeah, so you can see how fucked I am, really. The situation is bleak. Especially because of my asexuality.
Asexuality helps tbh
Also, here's some lifefuel for you perhaps. The other day I saw the wife of my Turkish neighbor for the first time. I met the guy before, he's an overweight weak MTN at best. And his wife? She's Turkish as well but also at the very least an HTB. She's very good-looking, ma sha Allah. My neighbor is really blessed, ma sha Allah. They were both born and raised here. I just always assumed his wife was a femcel/LTB or something but damn, miracles still happen in today's world. They have two children together. I remember my brother telling me about the discrepancy between their looks levels but I never had seen her so I wasn't able to tell. She wears hijab also.
How can he be MTN and overweight? Surely hardcapped at LTN. Lifefeul tho.

She is clearly trad and fact that she wear hijab in Netherlands as diaspora means she's an outlier.
 
Asexuality helps tbh

How can he be MTN and overweight? Surely hardcapped at LTN. Lifefeul tho.

She is clearly trad and fact that she wear hijab in Netherlands as diaspora means she's an outlier.
I agree that it does help in ways but also it's detrimental in others. You become complacent and the years go by and you're still alone. Well, I meant facially he's an MTN but of course, if we take into account body weight then sure, he's lower overall. I forgot to mention the fact that they're just as tall or she's slightly taller than him, so there's that. He won against all odds. Actually, a lot of women here wear the hijab, Moroccans and Turks, but I agree she's obviously more trad than most. Wears non-revealing clothes as well.
 
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I agree that it does help in ways but also it's detrimental in others. You become complacent and the years go by and you're still alone. Well, I meant facially he's an MTN but of course, if we take into account body weight then sure, he's lower overall. I forgot to mention the fact that they're just as tall or she's slightly taller than him, so there's that. He won against all odds. Actually, a lot of women here wear the hijab, Moroccans and Turks, but I agree she's obviously more trad than most. Wears non-revealing clothes as well.
These are two countries I visited in the last year.
Go to Morocco or Turkey and you will be stunned by the looks and height disparity between most men and women. You will become bluepilled instantly. It's not as uncommon as you think in other parts of the world.
 
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These are two countries I visited in the last year.
Go to Morocco or Turkey and you will be stunned by the looks and height disparity between most men and women. You will become bluepilled instantly. It's not as uncommon as you think in other parts of the world.
Actually, I used to believe interracial dating wasn't the norm and that people stuck to their own but then you were considered "bluepilled" and "delusional" because "all women want white guys. :soy:" JFL.
 
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You have literally NEVER tried and put yourself out there (neither did I most of my life). You have been scarred by oneitis fever (so have I but at least I move on). My point is you seem more comfortable and doing nothing - something which I'm pretty sure you'll regret.

Given you think 99% of women 25+ are non-virgin most of your comment is irrelevant. Yes I've had rare MTBs like me but even when I match back they all ghost or don't communicate, so no, I cannot easily find an MTB whatever the circumstances. If that were the case I would be HTN SMV which I am not.
This. Niggas ac like just cos one foid is somewhat into you means you have a chance. Absolute bullshit, I have had foids off tinder/hinge simp send heart emojis etc and yet THEY FLAKED, or they didn’t msg after the date.

Some will say fakecel but I belive all roads lead to Rome, if I get a date but it ends with 0 pussy then I’m in the same boat as a incel who gets 0 dates as the destination is still the same. BITCHLESS
 
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