this foid got it right but also wrong(about men and women)

[justropemaxbro]

 

[mirrormogger]

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jfl there’s not more hot foids theres just makeup

 

[Swarthy Knight]

Foids on social media lack meme worthy levels of self awareness

 

[justropemaxbro]

jfl there’s not more hot foids theres just makeup

yeah.
Do you think htbs are as rare as htns?

 

[pig_face]

Foids on social media lack meme worthy levels of self awareness

 

[mirrormogger]

yeah.
Do you think htbs are as rare as htns?

assuming they’re not being rated by .org yeah

 

[Brus Wane]

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The first part isn’t necessarily right tbh
Since when are women less demanding of men? Less demanding relative to what? Compared to whom? Gigastacies?

Also, whats with the supermarket analogy?
Isnt it the same way when women swipe tinder?

 

[justropemaxbro]

oh, i forgot to mention, this was on a reel where a 6'4" dude rated a kinda gl girl a 6.5 and the girl rated him like 8. then women went crazy

 

[john2]

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her words are utterly brutal and truthful

this is a blackpill for everybody here

women don’t need you, they can live perfectly fine without you only unless you’re a chad haha

 

[justropemaxbro]

her words are utterly brutal and truthful

this is a blackpill for everybody here

women don’t need you, they can live perfectly fine without you only unless you’re a chad haha

Brutal. This isn't 1900s anymore. Bitches can earn money.

 

[john2]

Brutal. This isn't 1900s anymore. Bitches can earn money.

exactly, women can earn money

women always never needed men imo

women maybe just need chad whenever they are horny

that’s all

my argument is that women are more excited to buy their next new louis vuitton handbag than to get dicked down by a subchad or maybe even a chad as women aren’t as horny as men

 

[justropemaxbro]

exactly, women can earn money

women always never needed men imo

women maybe just need chad whenever they are horny

that’s all

my argument is that women are more excited to buy their next new louis vuitton handbag than to get dicked down by a subchad or maybe even a chad as women aren’t as horny as men

Yes. 100%. Other than sexual needs is emotional needs, women want only htn above but the reason why they had to settle for less is because of their emotional needs.

If a man is not atleast HTN in this age,he will always become a 2nd option when a more good looking dude comes into the woman's life, in other words, you will not be desired much.

Women also want to boast about their man. If you are not an HTN, how can they boast about. In another words, you are an oofy-doofy.

 

[AngryShane]

exactly, women can earn money

Most women are just getting by they are not financially excelling...

 

[justropemaxbro]

Most women are just getting by they are not financially excelling...

Maybe it's the reason why rich ugly dudes can get a girlfriend.

 

[Deleted member 51576]

as women aren’t as horny as men

Turbo cope

 

[AngryShane]

Maybe it's the reason why rich ugly dudes can get a girlfriend.

Most of the women who claim to make over 100k a year are lying through their teeth. They are merely saying that to appear good in society or keep up with the Joneses.

 

[Gaygymmaxx]

Most women are just getting by they are not financially excelling...

Average female income is higher than male and more college completion if I remember correctly...

 

[john2]

Turbo cope

let me guess you still believe in the age old lie that women are very horny beings and especially only horny for chad?

women aren't horny at all, it's just that women don't mind chad for sex

women are totally repulsed by sub 7.5/10 men

if women were as horny as men then 50% of women would be the ones making the first move on men

Most women are just getting by they are not financially excelling...

you mean women making millions each year through OF is not financial excel?

 

[dreamcake1mo]

Most women are just getting by they are not financially excelling...

Women dont really need to financially excell like men do, because their core life isnt as drastically affected by not succeeding. Dont misunderstand, nobody wants to be poor. But being poor with no life is drastically different from being poor with a life.

See, if a man does not make money, he is almost better of commiting suicide. He wont attract any mates, he wont be able to do shit and he essentially wont even exist. On top of that, the world treats a man harsher in every aspect whether its financially, socially, or mentally (scientifically proven through the women are wonderful effect), so his very friends might as well only be financial power.

Women on the other hand already have those core values varying from a minimal degree, to a full degree without requiring money. Family, companionship, social, positive feedback etc. Also why they call names to people with no life. They think a mans life and a womans scale the exact same. Also why this women seems so delusional to us.

For family, all a women will have to do in order to attract a guy and pick a family is basically exist, due to hormonal impulses of a man, the biological imperative of a man to find and court as much women possible to start a family. She might not find chad, but at a base level theres always some dude out there who wants a chick. This level does not exist with a man at all. Its all or nothing. Shes comparing the "alls" and dosent even know the nothings exist (even though they are the majority), due to her lense and perspective being totally incorrect about man (due to her comparison from a female gaze). In short, she thinks its easy for guys because its easy for her. Her normal is what we consider at a high level.

Financially, you can also say women have more support circles due to their mental biological prepositions. Its not as competitively isolated (divergent or greater variance overall) as a male. More within a smaller pool of behavior also which means more relatability amongst eachother. And by the way, women are wonderful effect is a real scientifically studied phenomenon.

 

[AngryShane]

you mean women making millions each year through OF is not financial excel?

Is "OF" for OnlyFans correct? If so, then that's literally the 1% of women who make it to become millionaires; the other 99% are making nothing but chump change.

 

[AngryShane]

Women on the other hand already have those core values varying from a minimal degree, to a full degree without requiring money. Family, companionship, social, positive feedback etc. Also why they call names to people with no life. They think a mans life and a womans scale the exact same. Also why this women seems so delusional to us.

If the woman is below a 4 in looks levels she's going to be treated just as bad as a average looking male without money.

For family, all a women will have to do in order to attract a guy and pick a family is basically exist, due to hormonal impulses of a man, the biological imperative of a man to find and court as much women possible to start a family. She might not find chad, but at a base level theres always some dude out there who wants a chick. This level does not exist with a man at all. Its all or nothing. Shes comparing the "alls" and dosent even know the nothings exist (even though they are the majority), due to her lense and perspective being totally incorrect about man (due to her comparison from a female gaze). In short, she thinks its easy for guys because its easy for her. Her normal is what we consider at a high level.

Believe it or not, alot of men aren't really trying to get married or have girlfriends anymore, They would rather just become a "passport bro" since they're realizing that most women aren't worth anything....

 

[dreamcake1mo]

If the woman is below a 4 in looks levels she's going to be treated just as bad as a average looking male without money.

Believe it or not, alot of men aren't really trying to get married or have girlfriends anymore, They would rather just become a "passport bro" since they're realizing that most women aren't worth anything....

No she wont. For women, its not just about face, despite what estrogenic men think here!

Its also about body. Testosterone gives the male a more prominent libido affect and these chemicals affect the way we men think. Women will always be attractive to a man because of this. A women probably is more attractive to a man physically, than a man to a women. Its the pattern of the female fashion that is in essence what we are attracted to. Aside from scientifically facts, ive seen this situation play out in real life. Women are wonderful effect proves this. Look it up. Scientifically, women are treated better than man in the same looksmatch area. So a ugly women will be treated better than a ugly man. In matter of fact, a ugly women wont even be scaled on the same level as ugly compared to a ugly man. You can observe this in all facets of life, where women who dont look as good or are fat get just as good treatment as average women both within their circles, and through popular archetypes (milf, bbw, etc). Simply not on the same level of support ugly men have.

So, Im not trying to be disrespectful, but that observation of yours is absolutely false, both scientifically and IRl observationally.

You also say that men are not trying to get married or have girlfriends? Id disagree. Theres still a significant pool of men who will get married or have girlfriends if they could, the issue is that women arent looking for these men and in turn these men look for a place else where they are appreciated. The whole passport bro movement is exposed, where in reality these guys are just simping sexworkers in another location. The bulk of them arent guys who just want minimal relationship with women and sex, they are guys who want relationships with women. They are the same guys trying to get married and have girlfriends, which proves that these men would definitely settle for a women in the west, if only those western women didnt demand the entire world. Same type of men, just that they figured they have more value outside their og location due to halo.

You can say that its the average women whos not trying to get married or be in a relationship with a average man, so the men leave and the women continue to chase the top percentile image, as they are supported enough to be picky to do so.

 

[AngryShane]

No she wont. For women, its not just about face, despite what estrogenic men think here!

Its also about body. Testosterone gives the male a more prominant libido affect and these chemicals affect the way we men think. Women will always be attractive to a man because of this. Its the pattern of the female fashion that is in essense what we are attracted to. Aside from scientifical facts, ive seen this situation play out in real life. Women are wonderful effect proves this. Look it up. Sceintifically, women are treated better than man in the same looksmatch area. So a ugly women will be treated better than a ugly man. You can observe this in all facets of life, where women who dont look as good or are fat get just as good treatment as average women both within their circles, and through popular archetypes (milf, bbw, etc) that are simply not on the same level of support ugly men have.

So, Im not trying to be disrespectful, but that observation of yours is absolutely false, both scientifically and IRl observationally.

Homie, I see homeless women all the time where I live. In fact, I know a woman who got kicked out of her house for being deemed worthless while her prettier sister lived at home for free. Yes, they can get sex (anyone can, in all honesty), but thinking that everything will be handed to you just because you're a woman is not realistic. We are in a global recession, people don't have money to just throw away anymore.

You also say that men are not trying to get married or have girlfriends? Id disagree. Theres still a significant pool of men who will get married or have girlfriends if they could, the issue is that women arent looking for these men and in turn these men look for a place else where they are appreciated. The whole passport bro movement is exposed, where in reality these guys are just simping in another location. The bulk of them arent guys who just want minimal relationship with women and sex, they are guys who want relationships with women. They are the same guys trying to get married and have girlfriends, which proves that these men would definitely settle for a women in the west, if only those western women didnt demand the entire world. Same type of men, just that they figured they have more value outside their og location due to halo.

You can say that its the average women whos not trying to get married or be in a relationship with a average man, so the men leave and the women continue to chase the top percentile image, as they are supported enough to be picky to do so.

They want to get married, but not to women in America. They prefer to go to Thailand or the Dominican Republic, where women still hold traditional values. While some men may go overseas to simp, that's not the majority. There are men who are genuinely getting married and raising families, known as passport bros.

 

[dreamcake1mo]

Homie, I see homeless women all the time where I live. In fact, I know a woman who got kicked out of her house for being deemed worthless while her prettier sister lived at home for free. Yes, they can get sex (anyone can, in all honesty), but thinking that everything will be handed to you just because you're a woman is not realistic. We are in a global recession, people don't have money to just throw away anymore.


They want to get married, but not to women in America. They prefer to go to Thailand or the Dominican Republic, where women still hold traditional values. While some men may go overseas to simp, that's not the majority. There are men who are genuinely getting married and raising families, known as passport bros.

What im saying is backed scientifically and observationally. So i know im not wrong, if you want to argue my points, argue the data and statistical research behind it. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Women-are-wonderful_effect

Like you said, its a global recession. You can hyper focus on homeless women, but i can guarantee you that for every homeless women its probably a homeless men with objectively less QOL features and ways he can come up. The same kick out story happens with men too, you know. Im comparing things relatively. Yea, women may still be treated like shit, my point isnt to pretend such situations dont exist. Read again, i never denied the fact that it may be women who go through such things. Im speaking relatively. Put one ugly man against a ugly women and in 95% of cases the ugly guy would be treated worst just based on aesthetic and biology alone.

You said that men are going oversees to look for 'traditional' wives right. Well, are women doing the same? By your definition, all a women has to do is be traditional and such and she can find a partner that can both financially support her and also start a family with, so, why is it that a man literally has to go oversees and across the world just to find a women who wants to even do that. And do you see resource heavy women looking for traditional men in the same manner? And are those women oversees even looking for men who hold traditional values? No, they are just looking for men who can take care of them. You know this because they dont even speak the same language. Same with the women in the west, just that the standards for western living is far beyond a average mans capability. Men date down and women date up is a common sexual psychological fact for a reason.

This is why i will in fact say those passport bro guys are simp. They dont understand female nature or even their own psychology. To men, being beta means being ignorant of such things. Like the super nice guy that would take the roastie and be a step dad out of biological imperative ignorance. If those passport bros knew anything about female nature, they wouldn't be going oversees in sexpat locations to find a wife that dosent even relate, speak the same language or can pairbond with them.. Females across the board are exposed to the same things, and they are totally ignorant of that. For now, they play the desired roll and are the target of their hypergamy, but her nature remains the same.

 

[dreamcake1mo]

Homie, I see homeless women all the time where I live. In fact, I know a woman who got kicked out of her house for being deemed worthless while her prettier sister lived at home for free. Yes, they can get sex (anyone can, in all honesty), but thinking that everything will be handed to you just because you're a woman is not realistic. We are in a global recession, people don't have money to just throw away anymore.


They want to get married, but not to women in America. They prefer to go to Thailand or the Dominican Republic, where women still hold traditional values. While some men may go overseas to simp, that's not the majority. There are men who are genuinely getting married and raising families, known as passport bros.

Also fyi, if you do a bit of research about the passport bro movement youd find a bit of truth.

Theres a few guys who exposed it, that were in the movement before it became known as passport bros, and they admitted it started out as sexpat groups online. Until a few guys decided to make content creation that can appeal to men who were in the US, or incel type black guys, all because these guys needed a source of income to keep paying for their sexpat life. You can pretty much trace the entire movement down to a dozen or so content creators who popularized it during covid so no reason to play ignorant on how it started and who the guys going down there are. This is the reason the movement is highly concentrated on sexpat locations like DR. Its because it started there.

The guys going there to "find a wife" are the same ignorant beta black guys who are following a dream. Beta because they are ignorant, especially on female nature. In those locations its all P2P. Socioeconomic status. Not love. Traditional roles can be bought. They come with a price. This is how it has always been. Women in the US treat celebrities in a traditional role manner too, Why is so? This is why passport bros are so hated by real expats. Popularizing and simpfying a location that operates best on value exchange as well as bringing tribalism and politics to the area with the types of people they publicize to go there..

 

[AngryShane]

What im saying is backed scientifically and observationally. So i know im not wrong, if you want to argue my points, argue the data and statistical research behind it. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Women-are-wonderful_effect

Alot are men don't really believe in this concept(at lease not in this day and age)Since how they tend to be aware of female nature.

Put one ugly man against a ugly women and in 95% of cases the ugly guy would be treated worst just based on aesthetic and biology alone.

They would actually be treated equally bad since the they're both ugly, people tend to treat ugly people with animosity no matter the gender or race...

You said that men are going oversees to look for 'traditional' wives right. Well, are women doing the same?

Believe it or not they are...Ever heard of the term Passport Gals?

By your definition, all a women has to do is be traditional and such and she can find a partner that can both financially support her and also start a family with, so, why is it that a man literally has to go oversees and across the world just to find a women who wants to even do that.

The woman that are in the west tend to act entitled, greedy and uncooperative you can't make turn these women into housewives, even if they pretend to be all sweet and submissive they'' eventually show their true colors

And do you see resource heavy women looking for traditional men in the same manner?

There are women who make 100K+ that want men to make 100K+ that will still be traditional and make the men pay ATLEAST 75% of the bills

This is why i will in fact say those passport bro guys are simp. They dont understand female nature or even their own psychology. To men, being beta means being ignorant of such things. Like the super nice guy that would take the roastie and be a step dad out of biological imperative ignorance. If those passport bros knew anything about female nature, they wouldn't be going oversees in sexpat locations to find a wife that dosent even relate, speak the same language or can pairbond with them.. Females across the board are exposed to the same things, and they are totally ignorant of that. For now, they play the desired roll and are the target of their hypergamy, but her nature remains the same.

There not really go to places where the women are prostitutes' they tend to places that tend to be rural or where the families live off the land.

 

[autistic_tendencies]

Women dont really need to financially excell like men do, because their core life isnt as drastically affected by not succeeding. Dont misunderstand, nobody wants to be poor. But being poor with no life is drastically different from being poor with a life.

See, if a man does not make money, he is almost better of commiting suicide. He wont attract any mates, he wont be able to do shit and he essentially wont even exist. On top of that, the world treats a man harsher in every aspect whether its financially, socially, or mentally (scientifically proven through the women are wonderful effect), so his very friends might as well only be financial power.

Women on the other hand already have those core values varying from a minimal degree, to a full degree without requiring money. Family, companionship, social, positive feedback etc. Also why they call names to people with no life. They think a mans life and a womans scale the exact same. Also why this women seems so delusional to us.

For family, all a women will have to do in order to attract a guy and pick a family is basically exist, due to hormonal impulses of a man, the biological imperative of a man to find and court as much women possible to start a family. She might not find chad, but at a base level theres always some dude out there who wants a chick. This level does not exist with a man at all. Its all or nothing. Shes comparing the "alls" and dosent even know the nothings exist (even though they are the majority), due to her lense and perspective being totally incorrect about man (due to her comparison from a female gaze). In short, she thinks its easy for guys because its easy for her. Her normal is what we consider at a high level.

Financially, you can also say women have more support circles due to their mental biological prepositions. Its not as competitively isolated (divergent or greater variance overall) as a male. More within a smaller pool of behavior also which means more relatability amongst eachother. And by the way, women are wonderful effect is a real scientifically studied phenomenon.

Cope
Homeless chads live off women

 

[HarrierDuBois]

Women are smarter? Name one female philosopher worth reading...

 

[dreamcake1mo]

Alot are men don't really believe in this concept(at lease not in this day and age)Since how they tend to be aware of female nature.

They would actually be treated equally bad since the they're both ugly, people tend to treat ugly people with animosity no matter the gender or race...

Believe it or not they are...Ever heard of the term Passport Gals?

The woman that are in the west tend to act entitled, greedy and uncooperative you can't make turn these women into housewives, even if they pretend to be all sweet and submissive they'' eventually show their true colors

There are women who make 100K+ that want men to make 100K+ that will still be traditional and make the men pay ATLEAST 75% of the bills


There not really go to places where the women are prostitutes' they tend to places that tend to be rural or where the families live off the land.

Bro, cut it out.


First, women are wonderful applies to both men and women. Regardless of how aware a person is of female nature its a known psychological effect.

2. No. My sources say this is false. Where are yours? At this point your just going based of subjective opinions. And this is made clear with your points that try to one up mines by providing an equvelant observation, despite the points being lesser and not backed by sound observational data in scientifical nature .

3. Like said above, your trying to counter my points with an equivelant that everyone knwos isnt even a real thing outside of a very specific niche of women who are just playing counter. Stop with the bullshit, women dont need to go oversees to find a trad male when theres all types of trad males where they are at. Passport gals isnt about finding a trad male, its a counterculture of passport bros.

4. What your saying applies to all women, beta.

5. Exactly, your proving my point. Dont take it back now. Like i said, your not finding women taking care of trad men like how trad men take care of women.

6. You know nothing about the subject you speak of. I know for a fact where the movement started from, your just spewing personal opinion.

 

[AngryShane]

First, women are wonderful applies to both men and women. Regardless of how aware a person is of female nature its a known psychological effect.

Women don't like other women, They secretly despise one another they know deep down that women ain't nothing more than hoes and tricks they just put on a façade for society and/or become friends with one another due having a hivemind and the fear of being alone...

No. My sources say this is false. Where are yours? At this point your just going based of subjective opinions. And this is made clear with your points that try to one up mines by providing an equvelant observation, despite the points being lesser and not backed by sound observational data in scientifical nature .

I go by what I SEE and HEAR in real life, I SEE ugly men AND women be treat unjustly in life due to their appearance, Not everything on the internet is true and should be taking with a grain of salt.

Like said above, your trying to counter my points with an equivelant that everyone knwos isnt even a real thing outside of a very specific niche of women who are just playing counter. Stop with the bullshit, women dont need to go oversees to find a trad male when theres all types of trad males where they are at.

Yes, They can find a tradition man where they live, the problem is they want a man making at least 80K and up and thing about these men making this kind of money don't want these kind of women due to them being entitled, overweight, uncooperative and masculine so they just go overseas to find a woman that is willing to get on the mans program...

4. What your saying applies to all women, beta.

It's not really being a "beta" it's just being man and taking care of the woman that is going to bear your children. It's not really simping if the woman is actually doing her part in the relationship...

5. Exactly, your proving my point. Dont take it back now. Like i said, your not finding women taking care of trad men like how trad men take care of women.

I don't understand what you mean by this

You know nothing about the subject you speak of. I know for a fact where the movement started from, your just spewing personal opinion.

Where exactly?

L

Look, homie, the only reason I said what I said to John2 is because many people on this forum believe the notion that every woman is living a marvelous, perfect lifestyle of jet-setting around the world, dining at 5-star restaurants every weekend, making over $100k a year, and sleeping with "Gigachads of all races." This is far from reality. Maybe the top 2% of women are living this lifestyle, but the rest of the female population is not. Many of them are struggling to get by, just like men are. You shouldn't believe everything you see on the internet, and you shouldn't believe everything a woman tells you because they are known to be the biggest liars on the planet. A woman would literally tell you she has the powers to walk on water if it meant getting 5 minutes of attention from you. Hopefully, this helps you understand that you shouldn't take everything you see and hear about women so seriously, and that you'll stop writing to me in essay formats like a scorned baby mama.

 

[dreamcake1mo]

Women don't like other women, They secretly despise one another they know deep down that women ain't nothing more than hoes and tricks they just put on a façade for society and/or become friends with one another due having a hivemind and the fear of being alone...

I go by what I SEE and HEAR in real life, I SEE ugly men AND women be treat unjustly in life due to their appearance, Not everything on the internet is true and should be taking with a grain of salt.

Yes, They can find a tradition man where they live, the problem is they want a man making at least 80K and up and thing about these men making this kind of money don't want these kind of women due to them being entitled, overweight, uncooperative and masculine so they just go overseas to find a woman that is willing to get on the mans program...

It's not really being a "beta" it's just being man and taking care of the woman that is going to bear your children. It's not really simping if the woman is actually doing her part in the relationship...

I don't understand what you mean by this

Where exactly?

L

Look, homie, the only reason I said what I said to John2 is because many people on this forum believe the notion that every woman is living a marvelous, perfect lifestyle of jet-setting around the world, dining at 5-star restaurants every weekend, making over $100k a year, and sleeping with "Gigachads of all races." This is far from reality. Maybe the top 2% of women are living this lifestyle, but the rest of the female population is not. Many of them are struggling to get by, just like men are. You shouldn't believe everything you see on the internet, and you shouldn't believe everything a woman tells you because they are known to be the biggest liars on the planet. A woman would literally tell you she has the powers to walk on water if it meant getting 5 minutes of attention from you. Hopefully, this helps you understand that you shouldn't take everything you see and hear about women so seriously, and that you'll stop writing to me in essay formats like a scorned baby mama.

You resulted to ad homeniums because my information provided is simply more accurate. A immature pace because im not even totally disagreeing with your point but highlighting that a portion/s of it is simply subjective and untrue.

I worked with homeless people for a long time and ive personally observed women get far more donations, and far better treatment. Im also saying what i see and hear in real life. But the difference between me and you is, im coming with far more research and data that can prove the accuracy of what im saying.

What were saying is not much different from eachother, but like i said before, they are some points of yours that i think are really immature and false/ largely based on subjective opinions that are not quite universal.

Like i have said over 3 times already. Im speaking relatively. In no way am i saying that women cant have it as bad as a man, but what me and literally hours/days/years of research and observational data is saying, is that women relative to men on average, if both were in equal positions, are treated better than men. And actually, the bulk of what im saying is that, socioeconomically, currently, women have far more opportunity to catalysts that result in better treatment despite relativity. Hence, why they can demand such outrageous standards in the first place. What about this dont you understand? This is not only something ive been seeing for over decades of me living, but also what i personally researched with scientifically studies that support what, and why this behavior happens.

You say the women are wonderful effect only applies to male gaze? False, "the phrase was coined by Alice Eagly and Antonio Mladinic in 1994 after finding that both male and female participants tend to assign positive traits to women, with female participants showing a far more pronounced bias. Positive traits were assigned to men by participants of both genders, but to a far lesser degree."

What about this dont you understand?

The funny thing is, you accuse me of following unsupported ideology when thats exactly where your points are coming from. You seemed to be particularly persistent in replying to my anti passport bro points, which gives me an idea of your sources the pool of information your going by right now is coming from.

Your idea of the situation is immature. Your claiming women have it the exact same as a man yet you yourself with your own examples of traditional male and female dynamics prove this is not the case. Theres more examples of inconsistencies and simply untrue statements you claimed but i already spoke about this in my last 3 comments. Hopefully you can go back and try to understand what i was saying.

I think i will stop here. Your idea of masculinity itself also seems to be missing prerequisites, maybe this is why my points are so confusing to you. For example, i highlight how passport bros are in fact simp by first giving a background on the nature of the word and what it means in context but your replies imply that you dont really comprehend this prerequisite information. Im guessing your idea on equality and female nature also lacks prerequisites.

 

[AngryShane]

You resulted to ad homeniums because my information provided is simply more accurate. A immature pace because im not even totally disagreeing with your point but highlighting that a portion/s of it is simply subjective and untrue.

I worked with homeless people for a long time and ive personally observed women get far more donations, and far better treatment. Im also saying what i see and hear in real life. But the difference between me and you is im coming with far more research and data that can prove the accuracy of what im saying.

What were saying is not much different from eachother, but like i said before, they are some points of yours that i think are really immature and false/ largely based on subjective opinions that are not quite universal.

Like i have said over 3 times already. Im speaking relatively. In no way am i saying that women cant have it as bad as a man, but what me and literally hours/days/years of research and observational data is saying, is that women relative to men on average, if both were in equal positions, are treated better than men. And actually, the bulk of what im saying is that, socioeconomically, currently, women have far more opportunity to catalysts that result in better treatment despite relativity. Hence, why they can demand such outrageous standards in the first place. What about this dont you understand? This is not only something ive been seeing for over decades of me living, but also what i personally researched and found scientifically studies that can support what and why this behavior happens.

You say the women are wonderful effect only applies to male gaze? False, "the phrase was coined by Alice Eagly and Antonio Mladinic in 1994 after finding that both male and female participants tend to assign positive traits to women, with female participants showing a far more pronounced bias. Positive traits were assigned to men by participants of both genders, but to a far lesser degree."

What about this dont you understand?

The funny thing is, you accuse me of following unsupported ideology when thats exactly where your points are coming from. You seemed to be particularly persistent in replying to my anti passport bro points, which gives me an idea of the sources of your pool of information your going by right now.

Your idea of the situation is immature. Your claiming women have it the exact same as a man yet you yourself with your own examples of traditional male and female dynamics prove this is not the case. Theres more examples of inconsistencies and simply untrue statements you claimed but i already spoke about this in my last 3 comments. Hopefully you can go back and try to understand what i was saying.

I think i will stop here. Your idea of masculinity itself also seems to be missing prerequisites, maybe this is why my points are so confusing to you. For example, i highlight how passport bros are in fact simp by first giving a background on the nature of the word and what it means in context but your replies imply that you dont really comprehend this prerequisite information. Im guessing your idea on equality and female nature also lacks prerequisites.

Homie, get to the point, what are you trying to say? women got it better men? men need to give up as a whole? What are you trying to insinuate?

 

[dreamcake1mo]

Homie, get to the point, what are you trying to say? women got it better men? men need to give up as a whole? What are you trying to insinuate?

An ideology is a set of beliefs or philosophies attributed to a person or group of persons, especially those held for reasons that are not purely epistemic, in which "practical elements are as prominent as theoretical ones".

Stop trying to find my "point" and just read. Because it seems like you missed it when i replied the first time.

My comments are more epistemic in nature. Im not going to say "all women have it better than men" or some dumb shit like that. You originally said;

Most women are just getting by they are not financially excelling...

And i said that, women dont really need to financially excel like men do (are required to). And went on to explain why i think my opinion was factually true (later with data).

 

[Bojack]

Women are less demanding of men wtf is she talking about. This is some ole bullshit man

 

[AngryShane]

An ideology is a set of beliefs or philosophies attributed to a person or group of persons, especially those held for reasons that are not purely epistemic, in which "practical elements are as prominent as theoretical ones".

Stop trying to find my "point" and just read.

My comments are more epistemic in nature.

Ok, you just trolling now. If you believe women have such a spectacular life why not just leave this website for good and go transition yourself to a transwoman and reap the benefits of the opposite sex.

 

[dreamcake1mo]

Ok, you just trolling now. If you believe women have such a spectacular life why not just leave this website for good and go transition yourself to a transwoman and reap the benefits of the opposite sex.

Once again, missing the point. I highlighted the definition of ideology because thats what it seems your trying to argue me against. Your insults arent even making sense anymore. Why are you so mad that my research is simply more accurate than yours? I dont need to trans or do any of that dumb shit to see the data. Whats true is true, Some things would not occur (like the outrageous standards women in the west have), if certain prerequisites of information were not true. Ive already told you enough.

 

[AngryShane]

Once again, missing the point. What, are you implying that a mans life is better or something? Your insults arent even making sense anymore. Why are you so mad that my research is simply more accurate than yours? I dont need to trans or do any of that dumb shit to see the data. Whats true is true, Some things would not occur (like the outrageous standards women in the west have), if certain prerequisites of information were not true. Ive already told you enough.

I'm not mad, you just not making sense anymore. I told you already that the reason im on this topic is because of John2 then you can and starting debating me about women not caring about financially excelling...How did we even get here?