THIS FORUM IS A POISON (GREYS&NORMIES GTFIH)

Every molecule. I know it's so ludicrous to think it's over because you're not a top .0001% male, but when socials & fiction constantly push these males and display women infatuated and lusting for them, it's impossible to not desire beauty. When you have a recessed maxilla and buccal pads that rape you with neotony, you can't ever be "sexy." I've felt pretty bad about this for years, but I just haven't done anything. I honestly never thought it'd come to larping as a rotter here and saying NIGGER with my mouth just a few months before I came on this forum. I really don't want to make my head uglier than it already is, but I just feel DOOM everyday and have zero motivation or drive to do anything when I wake up and then I think about how I don't even have the initiative to take care of myself to push myself to my best self, so how can I be that for an above average woman? I really don't know why I'm so self-sabotaging and do things that I know will make me hate me.
unfortunately I don't care and nobody cares

its all in your hands its your life you are ruining at the end of the day nobody gives a fuck truly
you are the only person that can save yourself do it or don't again I don't care
by the way you are speaking you will regret all of this sooner or later when you think back and see that you wasted your prime years and the only person at fault is yourself
 
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Every molecule. I know it's so ludicrous to think it's over because you're not a top .0001% male, but when socials & fiction constantly push these males and display women infatuated and lusting for them, it's impossible to not desire beauty. When you have a recessed maxilla and buccal pads that rape you with neotony, you can't ever be "sexy." I've felt pretty bad about this for years, but I just haven't done anything. I honestly never thought it'd come to larping as a rotter here and saying NIGGER with my mouth just a few months before I came on this forum. I really don't want to make my head uglier than it already is, but I just feel DOOM everyday and have zero motivation or drive to do anything when I wake up and then I think about how I don't even have the initiative to take care of myself to push myself to my best self, so how can I be that for an above average woman? I really don't know why I'm so self-sabotaging and do things that I know will make me hate me.
Not trying to be that guy but this is truly some pathetic shit. How long is this mindset going to be sustainable until you just fucking kys? If you truly think it’s over and you carry this mindset your ENTIRE LIFE why wouldn’t you just kill yourself? At what point do you decide to give a single shit about yourself? Or do you actually think that day will never come? I pray you wake up one day and have some fucking ambition bhai. Remember, at one point we all thought it was over… just takes time to chage :feelspepo:
 
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Not trying to be that guy but this is truly some pathetic shit. How long is this mindset going to be sustainable until you just fucking kys? If you truly think it’s over and you carry this mindset your ENTIRE LIFE why wouldn’t you just kill yourself? At what point do you decide to give a single shit about yourself? Or do you actually think that day will never come? I pray you wake up one day and have some fucking ambition bhai. Remember, at one point we all thought it was over… just takes time to chage :feelspepo:
Nah, you're right. I don't disagree. I'm too scared to kill myself, but letting myself rot away and let my dreams die inside is about the same. I really don't know why I have such a grudge against myself to the extent that I make myself my worst enemy. I just don't know how to break out of this spell telling me I shouldn't even try 💔
 
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there's a reason all the so called "forums legends" leave after ascending orb, pneumo, ehren etc

When I first stumbled across this forum, I thought everyone here was crazy. As I spent more time here, especially in off-topic, I slowly began identifying myself with everyone here, and I assume it was similar for you as well. At first, there were only a few things I found relatable, but most of the content I still rejected and even looked down on and thought to myself I would never go down this path or ever develop a mindset so dehumanizing to ones self and truly defeated. Over time, though, the more time I spent here, the more I began to identify with all of it. If the version of me from nine months ago saw who I am now and what I think of the "world", he would think I’m insane. I started hating myself more than ever, distancing myself from "real life", and looking at “normies” as if they were aliens.

This place idolizes being a social outcast, hating yourself, accepting defeat, and developing such a limited mindset that will last a lifetime. Everybody brings each other down, and it’s a downward spiral mentally. The truth is, for the vast majority of the people who think it’s over, it really is not. Only 0.1% of the people who think it’s over are actually truly done. Just because girls don’t throw themselves at you and you don’t get glazed for your looks everywhere doesn’t mean your life is over.

I understand why one would want to get as close to that as possible if their base allows them. I FUCKING WANT THAT, and I am willing to do anything to achieve it, including surgeries and tolerating excruciating pain, etc. But the other side of the coin of that is, if it’s not that life, then it’s not worth living, and that is fucking retarded. If you actually believe that for the vast majority of people here, you will ruin your own life, and the only person that loses is you. You are simply self-destructing. You will most likely never live a fulfilling life and will always be miserable, and that should be a sad thought, but to me, and I’m guessing all you rotting niggers reading this, it might not seem like a big deal. It’s like I’m numb to it, like whatever, and that is beyond insane. Its an crazy amount of people who are average looking or slightly below average thinking so low of themselves and thinking its over when it could be so much different if nt.

I don’t think anybody wants to live like that. Nobody did when they first joined. For a majority, this forum molded them to think that way. I doubt anybody genuinely, deep in their heart, wants to live like that. Everybody here has such a limiting belief, including me, that gets shoved down our throat. Somehow, every time I go outside, I see normies defying it: literal sub-3s or manlets having friends, girlfriends, whatever, and they are happier than 99% of the people on this forum and living a better life. We develop a confirmation bias where we look with wide-open eyes at anything and everything that proves our mindset and belief, and reject or turn a blind eye to anything that goes against it, coping by saying it’s because of this reason or that reason, as if it doesn’t exist. It’s an irrational belief that only hurts one person, and that is yourself.

If you think its truly over for you that you accepted defeat and you decide you are so unlovable alongside your genes being so inferior you don't want to pass them down why don't you just fucking kill yourself??

ill tell you why you don't because you want to live because you want to be happy but you limit yourself

I am really not trying to shit on the rotters or incels on here but genuinely whats the point of living you should always want to escape leave all this crazy shit beyond and let your mind be healthy for most of you that isn't a dream it could be you if you didn't have such a limiting mental and weren't self destructing


this place is truly a poison and its only a matter of time before its fully got you and you can never go back.



its late here and wanted to get some of this shit off my chest
kinda rushed and left the rant unfinished because my fingers hurt and I got school work to do

sorry and in before "low iq" "water" "dnr" "kys nigger"
Good thread and I have a genuine question , if you believe what you are saying then why are you still here? Why do you still have an account if you know this place is poison? I agree with what you are saying though and you really need tough skin in order to not get influenced by the fucktards in this forum
 
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Every molecule. I know it's so ludicrous to think it's over because you're not a top .0001% male, but when socials & fiction constantly push these males and display women infatuated and lusting for them, it's impossible to not desire beauty. When you have a recessed maxilla and buccal pads that rape you with neotony, you can't ever be "sexy." I've felt pretty bad about this for years, but I just haven't done anything. I honestly never thought it'd come to larping as a rotter here and saying NIGGER with my mouth just a few months before I came on this forum. I really don't want to make my head uglier than it already is, but I just feel DOOM everyday and have zero motivation or drive to do anything when I wake up and then I think about how I don't even have the initiative to take care of myself to push myself to my best self, so how can I be that for an above average woman? I really don't know why I'm so self-sabotaging and do things that I know will make me hate me.
From reading this it seems like you’re self aware enough to not be completely doomed. It’s like you want to reach out for help but you constrain yourself and don’t allow yourself to ask for help. I’m not a therapist and I’m younger than you so I’m not going to sit here and pretend like I know how to help, the only thing I can do is give you words of encouragement and support. I relate to a lot of what you are going through and I use to be like that a couple months/year ago and I wanna let you know that if you change , you’ll eventually break out of that cycle and grow. I did it and I know you can as well. Good luck and hope the best for you.
 
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Nah, you're right. I don't disagree. I'm too scared to kill myself, but letting myself rot away and let my dreams die inside is about the same. I really don't know why I have such a grudge against myself to the extent that I make myself my worst enemy. I just don't know how to break out of this spell telling me I shouldn't even try 💔

Seriously, you HAVE to escape that doomer mindset you’re killing yourself. There’s nothing any of us could say that’ll just snap you out of it but I’ll tell you what gives me motivation - the people that break hypergamy. When I walk around and see these disgusting ogre men with attractive woman it gives me hope that there’s someone out there that’ll accept someone no matter what they look like.
 
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Good thread and I have a genuine question , if you believe what you are saying then why are you still here? Why do you still have an account if you know this place is poison? I agree with what you are saying though and you really need tough skin in order to not get influenced by the fucktards in this forum
the original post was me just being hyper self aware and like realizing the bigger picture not to be corny

im planning to use this forum for what it is rationally to my benefit

staying away from offtopic for the most part

I want to reap all the benefits of yk the guides, methods and botb subforum while rejecting any fucking brainwashing from the so called fucktards
 
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there's a reason all the so called "forums legends" leave after ascending orb, pneumo, ehren etc

When I first stumbled across this forum, I thought everyone here was crazy. As I spent more time here, especially in off-topic, I slowly began identifying myself with everyone here, and I assume it was similar for you as well. At first, there were only a few things I found relatable, but most of the content I still rejected and even looked down on and thought to myself I would never go down this path or ever develop a mindset so dehumanizing to ones self and truly defeated. Over time, though, the more time I spent here, the more I began to identify with all of it. If the version of me from nine months ago saw who I am now and what I think of the "world", he would think I’m insane. I started hating myself more than ever, distancing myself from "real life", and looking at “normies” as if they were aliens.

This place idolizes being a social outcast, hating yourself, accepting defeat, and developing such a limited mindset that will last a lifetime. Everybody brings each other down, and it’s a downward spiral mentally. The truth is, for the vast majority of the people who think it’s over, it really is not. Only 0.1% of the people who think it’s over are actually truly done. Just because girls don’t throw themselves at you and you don’t get glazed for your looks everywhere doesn’t mean your life is over.

I understand why one would want to get as close to that as possible if their base allows them. I FUCKING WANT THAT, and I am willing to do anything to achieve it, including surgeries and tolerating excruciating pain, etc. But the other side of the coin of that is, if it’s not that life, then it’s not worth living, and that is fucking retarded. If you actually believe that for the vast majority of people here, you will ruin your own life, and the only person that loses is you. You are simply self-destructing. You will most likely never live a fulfilling life and will always be miserable, and that should be a sad thought, but to me, and I’m guessing all you rotting niggers reading this, it might not seem like a big deal. It’s like I’m numb to it, like whatever, and that is beyond insane. Its an crazy amount of people who are average looking or slightly below average thinking so low of themselves and thinking its over when it could be so much different if nt.

I don’t think anybody wants to live like that. Nobody did when they first joined. For a majority, this forum molded them to think that way. I doubt anybody genuinely, deep in their heart, wants to live like that. Everybody here has such a limiting belief, including me, that gets shoved down our throat. Somehow, every time I go outside, I see normies defying it: literal sub-3s or manlets having friends, girlfriends, whatever, and they are happier than 99% of the people on this forum and living a better life. We develop a confirmation bias where we look with wide-open eyes at anything and everything that proves our mindset and belief, and reject or turn a blind eye to anything that goes against it, coping by saying it’s because of this reason or that reason, as if it doesn’t exist. It’s an irrational belief that only hurts one person, and that is yourself.

If you think its truly over for you that you accepted defeat and you decide you are so unlovable alongside your genes being so inferior you don't want to pass them down why don't you just fucking kill yourself??

ill tell you why you don't because you want to live because you want to be happy but you limit yourself

I am really not trying to shit on the rotters or incels on here but genuinely whats the point of living you should always want to escape leave all this crazy shit beyond and let your mind be healthy for most of you that isn't a dream it could be you if you didn't have such a limiting mental and weren't self destructing


this place is truly a poison and its only a matter of time before its fully got you and you can never go back.



its late here and wanted to get some of this shit off my chest
kinda rushed and left the rant unfinished because my fingers hurt and I got school work to do

sorry and in before "low iq" "water" "dnr" "kys nigger"
Yes I love hating on normies. They are not humans
 
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Seriously, you HAVE to escape that doomer mindset you’re killing yourself. There’s nothing any of us could say that’ll just snap you out of it but I’ll tell you what gives me motivation - the people that break hypergamy. When I walk around and see these disgusting ogre men with attractive woman it gives me hope that there’s someone out there that’ll accept someone no matter what they look like.
Even if Stacy liked me for muh personality, I'd still refuse because I want to be her perfect match. I want to build myself to be the highest value man I can be to deserve her love and not be fogged in public. I honestly really hate seeing couples like that. ICL it PMO. My issue is I don't think my peak is that good, so I should just give up if it's not the peak male experience. It sounds insane, but it's so hard to do anything when I think like this :FeelsRainMan:
 
Seriously, you HAVE to escape that doomer mindset you’re killing yourself. There’s nothing any of us could say that’ll just snap you out of it but I’ll tell you what gives me motivation - the people that break hypergamy. When I walk around and see these disgusting ogre men with attractive woman it gives me hope that there’s someone out there that’ll accept someone no matter what they look like.
From reading this it seems like you’re self aware enough to not be completely doomed. It’s like you want to reach out for help but you constrain yourself and don’t allow yourself to ask for help. I’m not a therapist and I’m younger than you so I’m not going to sit here and pretend like I know how to help, the only thing I can do is give you words of encouragement and support. I relate to a lot of what you are going through and I use to be like that a couple months/year ago and I wanna let you know that if you change , you’ll eventually break out of that cycle and grow. I did it and I know you can as well. Good luck and hope the best for you.
you guys are retarded for trying to resuscitate you can't save anybody jfl who cares anyway be selfish worry about yourselves

for some its too deep and like I said after a certain point there's no coming back the mind is just to far gone

there just helpless
 
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there's a reason all the so called "forums legends" leave after ascending orb, pneumo, ehren etc

When I first stumbled across this forum, I thought everyone here was crazy. As I spent more time here, especially in off-topic, I slowly began identifying myself with everyone here, and I assume it was similar for you as well. At first, there were only a few things I found relatable, but most of the content I still rejected and even looked down on and thought to myself I would never go down this path or ever develop a mindset so dehumanizing to ones self and truly defeated. Over time, though, the more time I spent here, the more I began to identify with all of it. If the version of me from nine months ago saw who I am now and what I think of the "world", he would think I’m insane. I started hating myself more than ever, distancing myself from "real life", and looking at “normies” as if they were aliens.

This place idolizes being a social outcast, hating yourself, accepting defeat, and developing such a limited mindset that will last a lifetime. Everybody brings each other down, and it’s a downward spiral mentally. The truth is, for the vast majority of the people who think it’s over, it really is not. Only 0.1% of the people who think it’s over are actually truly done. Just because girls don’t throw themselves at you and you don’t get glazed for your looks everywhere doesn’t mean your life is over.

I understand why one would want to get as close to that as possible if their base allows them. I FUCKING WANT THAT, and I am willing to do anything to achieve it, including surgeries and tolerating excruciating pain, etc. But the other side of the coin of that is, if it’s not that life, then it’s not worth living, and that is fucking retarded. If you actually believe that for the vast majority of people here, you will ruin your own life, and the only person that loses is you. You are simply self-destructing. You will most likely never live a fulfilling life and will always be miserable, and that should be a sad thought, but to me, and I’m guessing all you rotting niggers reading this, it might not seem like a big deal. It’s like I’m numb to it, like whatever, and that is beyond insane. Its an crazy amount of people who are average looking or slightly below average thinking so low of themselves and thinking its over when it could be so much different if nt.

I don’t think anybody wants to live like that. Nobody did when they first joined. For a majority, this forum molded them to think that way. I doubt anybody genuinely, deep in their heart, wants to live like that. Everybody here has such a limiting belief, including me, that gets shoved down our throat. Somehow, every time I go outside, I see normies defying it: literal sub-3s or manlets having friends, girlfriends, whatever, and they are happier than 99% of the people on this forum and living a better life. We develop a confirmation bias where we look with wide-open eyes at anything and everything that proves our mindset and belief, and reject or turn a blind eye to anything that goes against it, coping by saying it’s because of this reason or that reason, as if it doesn’t exist. It’s an irrational belief that only hurts one person, and that is yourself.

If you think its truly over for you that you accepted defeat and you decide you are so unlovable alongside your genes being so inferior you don't want to pass them down why don't you just fucking kill yourself??

ill tell you why you don't because you want to live because you want to be happy but you limit yourself

I am really not trying to shit on the rotters or incels on here but genuinely whats the point of living you should always want to escape leave all this crazy shit beyond and let your mind be healthy for most of you that isn't a dream it could be you if you didn't have such a limiting mental and weren't self destructing


this place is truly a poison and its only a matter of time before its fully got you and you can never go back.



its late here and wanted to get some of this shit off my chest
kinda rushed and left the rant unfinished because my fingers hurt and I got school work to do

sorry and in before "low iq" "water" "dnr" "kys nigger"
I read this
Only because it made me want to test my reading speed

Yeah obviously its a community that dwells on insecurities but irl is nothing like whats preached
 
The harder you try the more you fail and the more painful the realisation that it was all for nothing, your genetics rule your life and the black pill always collects.

I wish I had given up at the start. Now I have too much sunk cost to not see the process through but I am very certain I will remain an incel even with all my surgeries behind me.

Even if I’d not found this site, the writing was on the wall anyway for my SMV.
 
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the original post was me just being hyper self aware and like realizing the bigger picture not to be corny

im planning to use this forum for what it is rationally to my benefit

staying away from offtopic for the most part

I want to reap all the benefits of yk the guides, methods and botb subforum while rejecting any fucking brainwashing from the so called fucktards
I just realized that’s Zherka in your pfp, I instantly like you now. Based.
 
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The harder you try the more you fail and the more painful the realisation that it was all for nothing, your genetics rule your life and the black pill always collects.

I wish I had given up at the start. Now I have too much sunk cost to not see the process through but I am very certain I will remain an incel even with all my surgeries behind me.

Even if I’d not found this site, the writing was on the wall anyway for my SMV.
after all surgeries and you do everything you possibly can do to ascend
whats the point of staying in this place where its a detriment to your life
like actually after that whats the point of continuing on believing in any of this it will only ruin your own life and make it worse

your midset is cooked anyway you already speaking it into existence saying I will remain an incel?? nigga what the fuck is to point on getting surgery than genuinely like there is no point this is the defeat and brainwashing I talk about in the original post
its never too late but If you believe it is than that's the end of it right there
the only way for one to ever be happy is to leave this place and the idea that that's impossible or too late is the problem
the limiting belief
 
Exactly my situation. Hardmaxing is realistically out of the picture for me, so I will try to complete my ascension as fast as possible and delete. Ascend and Forget as much as possible.
 

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