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If you are new to this forum, like 2023-2024+ join date, you may have often heard how the invasion of teenagers from TikTok ruined the forum, and how before this period (2018-2022), the forum was at its peak, how the quality of the threads was much higher, more active users, etc. and how now it is full of 14 year old Indians who destroy Off-Topic
The problem is that these feelings of nostalgia for ''better times'' have no fundamentally solid basis. In fact, this forum before 2023 was literally dog shit, and in the lines below I will explain why:
for pre 2023 era coopers..
Chapter 1 - The forum was literally a ghost town at that time:
Google trends helps us with a clear analysis of the fact that the peak activity on the forum before 2023 was in December 2022, but even so, compared to everything we've had since, especially the last 6 months when the forum reached peak activity, the forum during that period was literally a ghost town..
You would have made a thread about whatever, and you could have waited half a day for 10-20 replies, like there was literally no one online to see your thread bro wtf
Web.archive it also helps us to get a clearer picture of things. I chose an evening of 1 am from Saturday to Sunday, October 9, 2021, to strictly see the number of online users
At that time when the forum was supposed to be at peak activity, there were not even 250 users online, that means a decrease of 80-85% of online users that we have on a random evening right now!
Can you imagine this forum with only 250 users online? Like who would have made threads, who would have replied to them, lol, you would have had to wait days/weeks to have the minimum engagement that today you can do in just an hour..
Chapter 2 - OffTopic at that time was full of dog shit water threads by todays standards:
Here as an example I chose 10 pm, Saturday, October 8, 2022, the Off-Topic page, so the forum in theory at peak activity, let's see what we can see:
First of all, at that time, we can see at first hand a bunch of sticked threads in Off-Topic, a sign that the mods at that time were doing their job (in the idea that they were encouraged to search and stick threads) and that they actually stick threads that were relatively cool by their standards (water, dnr, tldr, kill yourself, ''nobody gives a shit grey'' type of threads for our time standards), while nowadays, to have a Stick thread, it has to be a PHD with 20+ images and clips in it and 1000+ words in which you explain the theory of relativity of looksmaxing or something, and then ask 5 mods to have the thread stick for like a few hours..
Let's take a look at some threads one by one, and what would be the reaction to them by today's standards:
What can we observe from these threads:
- The ratio of threads that would receive 0 replies & little traction in raport with relatively interesting threads was much worse than it is today (because there were much fewer daily threads, so the quality was less common. You would have had like 10-20 threads per day at most that were worth opening by today's standards),
- Threads that today would have received 0 replies because they were water / boring back then received much more traction (because there were much fewer daily threads)
Chapter 3 - Users will literally rep any water / unfunny shit like crazy, like dozens of reps for something that by today standards, you would get between 2 and 4 reps..
And the problem is that these huge amounts of reps were being done back then without tagging anyone..
Here I'll let the pictures do the talking:
Also again, mods at that time were sticking any borderline thread that was more than 100 words long:
It was for some random schzio rambling thread that will get 5 bumps and 3 dnr's today about why ethnics will go extinct because all of them will be whiteskin sooner or later in the future..
Chapter 4 - Users will OVERRATE ANYTHING LIKE CRAZY
Very often we hear how during this period that there is a lot of underrating, that we are too harsh, anything being most of the time Subhuman - LTB / LTN (very often beeing correct tho)
But before 2023.. oh boy.. get ready, I'll let the pictures do the talking again:
Keep in mind that I only chose some random examples from users with at least 5k posts, so users who presumably already had some experience on the forum.. So yeah..
I could go on and on, but the thread is already long enough, and you get the idea
The nostalgia of ''it was better before 2023'' comes from the fact that there were fewer greycels in general, which was a reality, because the forum was hella dead back then lol (fewer users- > fewer threads -> fewer bad threads, but that doesn't mean they didn't exist or weren't in the majority then), so you used to always see the same faces / users who were active daily, which gave you a sense of familiarity and predictability, in both good and bad things
In reality, compared to today's standards, it was a dead forum you entered like 2-3 times a day at most, and spent like 5-10 minutes at most each time, and then you were going to move on with your rest of the day, after you clicked on like 10-15 threads that were ''worth reading''
@BigBallsLarry @Nexom @Jason Voorhees @iblamexyz @NumbThePain
The problem is that these feelings of nostalgia for ''better times'' have no fundamentally solid basis. In fact, this forum before 2023 was literally dog shit, and in the lines below I will explain why:
Chapter 1 - The forum was literally a ghost town at that time:
Google trends helps us with a clear analysis of the fact that the peak activity on the forum before 2023 was in December 2022, but even so, compared to everything we've had since, especially the last 6 months when the forum reached peak activity, the forum during that period was literally a ghost town..
You would have made a thread about whatever, and you could have waited half a day for 10-20 replies, like there was literally no one online to see your thread bro wtf
Web.archive it also helps us to get a clearer picture of things. I chose an evening of 1 am from Saturday to Sunday, October 9, 2021, to strictly see the number of online users
At that time when the forum was supposed to be at peak activity, there were not even 250 users online, that means a decrease of 80-85% of online users that we have on a random evening right now!
Can you imagine this forum with only 250 users online? Like who would have made threads, who would have replied to them, lol, you would have had to wait days/weeks to have the minimum engagement that today you can do in just an hour..
Chapter 2 - OffTopic at that time was full of dog shit water threads by todays standards:
Here as an example I chose 10 pm, Saturday, October 8, 2022, the Off-Topic page, so the forum in theory at peak activity, let's see what we can see:
First of all, at that time, we can see at first hand a bunch of sticked threads in Off-Topic, a sign that the mods at that time were doing their job (in the idea that they were encouraged to search and stick threads) and that they actually stick threads that were relatively cool by their standards (water, dnr, tldr, kill yourself, ''nobody gives a shit grey'' type of threads for our time standards), while nowadays, to have a Stick thread, it has to be a PHD with 20+ images and clips in it and 1000+ words in which you explain the theory of relativity of looksmaxing or something, and then ask 5 mods to have the thread stick for like a few hours..
Let's take a look at some threads one by one, and what would be the reaction to them by today's standards:
What can we observe from these threads:
- The ratio of threads that would receive 0 replies & little traction in raport with relatively interesting threads was much worse than it is today (because there were much fewer daily threads, so the quality was less common. You would have had like 10-20 threads per day at most that were worth opening by today's standards),
- Threads that today would have received 0 replies because they were water / boring back then received much more traction (because there were much fewer daily threads)
Chapter 3 - Users will literally rep any water / unfunny shit like crazy, like dozens of reps for something that by today standards, you would get between 2 and 4 reps..
And the problem is that these huge amounts of reps were being done back then without tagging anyone..
Here I'll let the pictures do the talking:
Also again, mods at that time were sticking any borderline thread that was more than 100 words long:
It was for some random schzio rambling thread that will get 5 bumps and 3 dnr's today about why ethnics will go extinct because all of them will be whiteskin sooner or later in the future..
Chapter 4 - Users will OVERRATE ANYTHING LIKE CRAZY
Very often we hear how during this period that there is a lot of underrating, that we are too harsh, anything being most of the time Subhuman - LTB / LTN (very often beeing correct tho)
But before 2023.. oh boy.. get ready, I'll let the pictures do the talking again:
Keep in mind that I only chose some random examples from users with at least 5k posts, so users who presumably already had some experience on the forum.. So yeah..
I could go on and on, but the thread is already long enough, and you get the idea
The nostalgia of ''it was better before 2023'' comes from the fact that there were fewer greycels in general, which was a reality, because the forum was hella dead back then lol (fewer users- > fewer threads -> fewer bad threads, but that doesn't mean they didn't exist or weren't in the majority then), so you used to always see the same faces / users who were active daily, which gave you a sense of familiarity and predictability, in both good and bad things
In reality, compared to today's standards, it was a dead forum you entered like 2-3 times a day at most, and spent like 5-10 minutes at most each time, and then you were going to move on with your rest of the day, after you clicked on like 10-15 threads that were ''worth reading''
@BigBallsLarry @Nexom @Jason Voorhees @iblamexyz @NumbThePain
