this is a genuine question im not trying to be racist

[AbuSAF]

someone will always find a way to make a thread about the jews

 

[Deleted member 5802]

Same with Jews tbh
Most are mixed with Europeans

Jews are not are mixed with multiple ethnic groups. Black Americans are mixed with akan, madinka, Hausa, Yoruba, Wolof, Fulani and Central African groups in the Congo. These populations are extremely genetically distinct from one another. Where exactly will black Americans go what country? That’s why telling black Americans to go back to Africa is like telling a White American to go back to Europe the same thing happened to white Americans

 

[Deleted member 5802]

They literally cannot most black americans are a mix of dozens of african communities/tribes some living many kilometres apart in different countries, the absolute best they can do is go where the largest portion of their dna can be traced from (the largest is less than 20% of the overall btw) not to mention the average african american is already 20% white on top of that.

Also there are generally massive cultural and social differences which adults would have a hard time adapting to.

Yes i agree with you that telling black Americans to go back to Africa is stupid. But black Americans are mixed with certain ethnic groups because those ethnic groups are favored in certain jobs like cotton picking and farming. Some certain ethnic groups are picked. It wasn’t Africans raiding a bunch of random African tribes that they had to look for it was them going to war with other established African kingdoms to capture slaves who can work in the Americas. That’s why black Americans cluster in certain ethnic groups in Africa but they could pinpoint their paternal parents. Some of them are European while others are still in Africa it depends on the person

 

[Deleted member 6273]

Yes i agree with you that telling black Americans to go back to Africa is stupid. But black Americans are mixed with certain ethnic groups because those ethnic groups are favored in certain jobs like cotton picking and farming. Some certain ethnic groups are picked. It wasn’t Africans raiding a bunch of random African tribes that they had to look for it was them going to war with other established African kingdoms to capture slaves who can work in the Americas. That’s why black Americans cluster in certain ethnic groups in Africa but they could pinpoint their paternal parents. Some of them are European while others are still in Africa it depends on the person

Indeed surprised you know all this shit, but there were multiple methods of capturing slaves but overall you are kinda right.

 

[Deleted member 5802]

Indeed surprised you know all this shit, but there were multiple methods of capturing slaves but overall you are kinda right.

Yeah I know a lot about African history indeed some did try to capture random tribes these were not always successful due to these tribes fighting back so it was easier to just raid other kingdoms for slaves.

 

[Offensive Bias]

The only place I can think of that can hold Blacks is Liberia but that place is already populated and would get turned into a ethnic warzone the moment you send Black americans there and how many would go back? There's like 40 million blacks in the states alone.

 

[TsarTsar444]

Yeah I know a lot about African history indeed some did try to capture random tribes these were not always successful due to these tribes fighting back so it was easier to just raid other kingdoms for slaves.

How is it easier to attack kingdoms over shit hole tribes? Wtf

 

[Deleted member 5802]

How is it easier to attack kingdoms over shit hole tribes? Wtf

Because tribes men will fight back with their lives those people were built to survive. Plus does it make sense to travel miles and miles to find some random tribe or just raid a kingdom with full of people use common sense here bro

 

[TsarTsar444]

Because tribes men will fight back with their lives those people were built to survive. Plus does it make sense to travel miles and miles to find some random tribe or just raid a kingdom with full of people use common sense here bro

The only kingdoms in africa were close to the Sahara, todays african americans phenotypacaly look Nigerian or Central African, those places were just tribes

 

[Deleted member 5802]

The only kingdoms in africa were close to the Sahara, todays african americans phenotypacaly look Nigerian or Central African, those places were just tribes

Yeah they came from Nigerian ethnic groups like the Yoruba, Hausa, Wolof madinka which all had established strong kingdoms. The Igbo lands the kingdom of Congo. Black Americans cluster in those ethnic groups that I just mentioned




“According to a genome-wide study by Bryc et al. (2009), the mixed ancestry of African Americans in varying ratios came about as the result of sexual contact between West/Central Africans (more frequently females) and Europeans (more frequently males). Consequently, the 365 African Americans in their sample have a genome-wide average of 78.1% West African ancestry and 18.5% European ancestry, with large variation among individuals (ranging from 99% to 1% West African ancestry). The West African ancestral component in African Americans is most similar to that in present-day speakers from the non-Bantu branches of the Niger-Congo (Niger-Kordofanian) family.[160][nb 1]

Correspondingly, Montinaro et al. (2014) observed that around 50% of the overall ancestry of African Americans traces back to the Niger-Congo-speaking Yoruba of southwestern Nigeria and southern Benin, reflecting the centrality of this West African region in the Atlantic Slave Trade. The next most frequent ancestral component found among African Americans was derived from Great Britain, in keeping with historical records. It constitutes a little over 10% of their overall ancestry, and is most similar to the Northwest European ancestral component also carried by Barbadians.[165]Zakharaia et al. (2009) found a similar proportion of Yoruba associated ancestry in their African-American samples, with a minority also drawn from Mandenka and Bantu populations. Additionally, the researchers observed an average European ancestry of 21.9%, again with significant variation between individuals.[159] Bryc et al. (2009) note that populations from other parts of the continent may also constitute adequate proxies for the ancestors of some African-American individuals; namely, ancestral populations from Guinea Bissau, Senegaland Sierra Leone in West Africa and Angola in Southern Africa.[160]”

 

[TsarTsar444]

Yeah they came from Nigerian ethnic groups like the Yoruba, Hausa, Wolof madinka which all had established strong kingdoms. The Igbo lands the kingdom of Congo. Black Americans cluster in those ethnic groups that I just mentioned




“According to a genome-wide study by Bryc et al. (2009), the mixed ancestry of African Americans in varying ratios came about as the result of sexual contact between West/Central Africans (more frequently females) and Europeans (more frequently males). Consequently, the 365 African Americans in their sample have a genome-wide average of 78.1% West African ancestry and 18.5% European ancestry, with large variation among individuals (ranging from 99% to 1% West African ancestry). The West African ancestral component in African Americans is most similar to that in present-day speakers from the non-Bantu branches of the Niger-Congo (Niger-Kordofanian) family.[160][nb 1]

Correspondingly, Montinaro et al. (2014) observed that around 50% of the overall ancestry of African Americans traces back to the Niger-Congo-speaking Yoruba of southwestern Nigeria and southern Benin, reflecting the centrality of this West African region in the Atlantic Slave Trade. The next most frequent ancestral component found among African Americans was derived from Great Britain, in keeping with historical records. It constitutes a little over 10% of their overall ancestry, and is most similar to the Northwest European ancestral component also carried by Barbadians.[165]Zakharaia et al. (2009) found a similar proportion of Yoruba associated ancestry in their African-American samples, with a minority also drawn from Mandenka and Bantu populations. Additionally, the researchers observed an average European ancestry of 21.9%, again with significant variation between individuals.[159] Bryc et al. (2009) note that populations from other parts of the continent may also constitute adequate proxies for the ancestors of some African-American individuals; namely, ancestral populations from Guinea Bissau, Senegaland Sierra Leone in West Africa and Angola in Southern Africa.[160]”

Unrelated slightly, but how the fuck didn't those coastal African kingdoms not modernize on the level of Europe when they were the first kingdoms in direct contact for 400 years with the Europeans prior to the embarrassing conquest of the continent in 1880. JFL imaging seeing giga advanced technology for 400 years and still being stuck in time 400 years later

 

[Deleted member 6273]

Unrelated slightly, but how the fuck didn't those coastal African kingdoms not modernize on the level of Europe when they were the first kingdoms in direct contact for 400 years with the Europeans prior to the embarrassing conquest of the continent in 1880. JFL imaging seeing giga advanced technology for 400 years and still being stuck in time 400 years later

The only people coming in were traders with small fleets, how exactly would they modernize in that sense are they supposed to have learned math developed over millennia in different parts of Eurasia by seeing some ships and engaging in minor trade, the coastal towns around east Africa which had schools and most established did mordenize.

 

[Deleted member 5802]

Unrelated slightly, but how the fuck didn't those coastal African kingdoms not modernize on the level of Europe when they were the first kingdoms in direct contact for 400 years with the Europeans prior to the embarrassing conquest of the continent in 1880. JFL imaging seeing giga advanced technology for 400 years and still being stuck in time 400 years later

That’s due to the slave trade African empires couldn’t industrialize due to lacking men to industrialize thanks to the slave trade. Benin and the Asante had the potential to industrialize since they were making their own guns

 

[TsarTsar444]

The only people coming in were traders with small fleets, how exactly would they modernize in that sense are they supposed to have learned math developed over millennia in different parts of Eurasia by seeing some ships and engaging in minor trade, the coastal towns around east Africa which had schools and most established did mordenize.

Not a excuse, the Ottomans were always technologically on par in Europe because they would send diplomats and learned men to the west to learn about the new technologies

A few african christians could have made a tour in Europe and learn from there and bring the knowledge back home.

 

[Deleted member 6273]

Not a excuse, the Ottomans were always technologically on par in Europe because they would send diplomats and learned men to the west to learn about the new technologies

A few african christians could have made a tour in Europe and learn from there and bring the knowledge back home.

you really think the Europeans at the time would allow any Africans then to into any aspect of higher education, many didn't even think blacks were capable of literacy, the few who actually got western education like Abram Petrovic Gannibal were kept in whatever European country cause they intrigued the normal European to see a "civilised" black person.

Why were the nordics ages behind the people of the middle east, heck even nubians (who today are technically classified on average as literally being retarded) have more complex architecture and general societal structure in the earlier times?

 

[TsarTsar444]

you really think the Europeans at the time would allow any Africans then to into any aspect of higher education, many didn't even think blacks were capable of literacy, the few who actually got western education like Abram Petrovic Gannibal were kept in whatever European country cause they intrigued the normal European to see a "civilised" black person.

Why were the nordics ages behind the people of the middle east, heck even nubians (who today are technically classified on average as literally being retarded) have more complex architecture and general societal structure in the earlier times?

Reminder the Ottomans did actually learn the ways of the western powers, i read tons about the Ottomans, they would sent learned men and scientists in Nations they were on good terms and see the newest development of guns and artillery. A coastal african kingdom in the 17th century could have easily made a deal and alience with a rival euro power for the price of technology sharing. Morroco actually did that with England in the 17th century

 

[Deleted member 5189]

Only smart answer here

what is? you can't just say that and not quote anything or elab

 

[Deleted member 6273]

Reminder the Ottomans did actually learn the ways of the western powers, i read tons about the Ottomans, they would sent learned men and scientists in Nations they were on good terms and see the newest development of guns and artillery. A coastal african kingdom in the 17th century could have easily made a deal and alience with a rival euro power for the price of technology sharing. Morroco actually did that with England in the 17th century

I'm not sure if you're trolling me or not, Do you understand the views majority of Europeans had on Africans back then, you really think in the 17th century, in the heat of the slave trade, they would willingly let a significant amount of blacks into any aspect of higher education in the same countries which primarily held them as slaves.

 

[Deleted member 5802]

Not a excuse, the Ottomans were always technologically on par in Europe because they would send diplomats and learned men to the west to learn about the new technologies

A few african christians could have made a tour in Europe and learn from there and bring the knowledge back home.

Actually the Asante and Congo was doing just that. They send diplomats to Europe and that’s where the Asante developed a writing system and learned more about gun creation. It was far to late since the slave trade completely raped Africa’s population and Europeans at that time had World War One weapons able to destroy entire cities. Why didn’t the ottomans recover?

 

[TsarTsar444]

I'm not sure if you're trolling me or not, Do you understand the views majority of Europeans had on Africans back then, you really think in the 17th century, in the heat of the slave trade, they would willingly let a significant amount of blacks into any aspect of higher education in the same countries which primarily held them as slaves.

Then why didn't they travel to the Ottoman Empire and learned from them? The Ottomans would be happy to teach them anything cause:
1. They had zero threats from advanced west african nations
2. They would be useful cause they would cuck the euro nations and lower their profits cause they wouldn't be fighting weak nations anymore

 

[Deleted member 6695]

They are not welcome back there lmao. Some get robbed

 

[Deleted member 5189]

They are not welcome back there lmao. Some get robbed

Robs me

 

[Slasher]

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[mulattomaxxer]

Because most of Africa is a fucking shithole. You earn more money in the west and the quality of life is higher here. If Africa was full of developed countries alot less people would want to migrate to europe.