This is what htns/cls/chads eat btw

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They eat a serving of genetics that’s what they eat nigga
 
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They eat a serving of genetics that’s what they eat nigga
They eat healthy omnivore diet litteraly, yet people like to cope with raw meat, raw milk and disgusting food thinking it will ascend them
 
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They eat healthy omnivore diet litteraly, yet people like to cope with raw meat, raw milk and disgusting food thinking it will ascend them
Yeah raw food is complete cope, even Jesus ate cooked meat
 
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Shouldn't this be obvious?

Doomer trolls started the whole chads eat 5k calories of goyslop a day and stays lean, why would you believe them?
 
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But you'e not a htn/cl/chad

You are a subhuman abomination incel

So why try to copy their habits? You are genetic garbage
 
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They eat healthy omnivore diet litteraly, yet people like to cope with raw meat, raw milk and disgusting food thinking it will ascend them
They already in a stage where food, doesn’t impact your bonestructure. It’s more relevant in your development stages, but not food, other aspects should be prioritized :ogre:
 
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They already in a stage where food, doesn’t impact your bonestructure. It’s more relevant in your development stages, but not food, other aspects should be prioritized :ogre:
This whole thing isn't really about muh nutrition but rather the fact that these whole food diets are satiating so they don't overeat and get fat.
 
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They eat healthy omnivore diet litteraly, yet people like to cope with raw meat, raw milk and disgusting food thinking it will ascend them
these chads could eat the biggest goyslop known to a man and would still mog 99% of mfs
 
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But you'e not a htn/cl/chad

You are a subhuman abomination incel

So why try to copy their habits? You are genetic garbage
They weren't starving or malnourished as I'm when i was craving for meat I got fed beans and bread at my most important developmental years but my genetics didn't nerf my height or frame
 
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This whole thing isn't really about muh nutrition but rather the fact that these whole food diets are satiating so they don't overeat and get fat.
I was skinny my whole life, never was fat or overweight
 
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these chads could eat the biggest goyslop known to a man and would still mog 99% of mfs
It's omnivore for a reason they can eat once lr twice but they will go eat healthy varied diet and mog your raw meat eaters
 
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They weren't starving or malnourished as I'm when i was craving for meat I got fed beans and bread at my most important developmental years but my genetics didn't nerf my height or frame
We incels need to eat raw carnivore.
 
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thats a lot of fucking tiktoks you sent there bud you tryna crash the server again?
 
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So? Fuck jesus man hes a manlet bitch
I just wanted to use him as an example to show we been eating cooked shit for 1000s of years now, I’ll say quality of food and prevalence of goy is the problem, not the inherent act of cooking
 
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They already in a stage where food, doesn’t impact your bonestructure. It’s more relevant in your development stages, but not food, other aspects should be prioritized :ogre:
I ate for survival at my most developmental years, I couldn't thrive, i only ate meat occasionally
 
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It's omnivore for a reason they can eat once lr twice but they will go eat healthy varied diet and mog your raw meat eaters
i aint raw meat eater bro. i live off noodles and beer :feelsautistic::feelsautistic:
 
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This whole thing isn't really about muh nutrition but rather the fact that these whole food diets are satiating so they don't overeat and get fat.
Cavill was fat and look at his bone structure now
 
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I just wanted to use him as an example to show we been eating cooked shit for 1000s of years now, I’ll say quality of food and prevalence of goy is the problem, not the inherent act of cooking
Raw meat or death
 
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Cavill was fat and look at his bone structure now
He doesn’t represent the average fatty. He grew up in a very wealthy family, did sports at the elite private school he attended and probably just overate on high quality food.

Unlike the fat zoomies eating only Goyslop now
 
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Shouldn't this be obvious?

Doomer trolls started the whole chads eat 5k calories of goyslop a day and stays lean, why would you believe them?
I finally figured out the best diet. High quality organic meats, fish, eggs, and fruits. Nothing else really.

Fruit is especially helpful. I eat it with every meal now.
 
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I finally figured out the best diet. High quality organic meats, fish, eggs, and fruits. Nothing else really.

Fruit is especially helpful. I eat it with every meal now.
It's honestly the tastiest one as well if you learn how to cook a little.
 
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How is cooked meat superior to raw?

1. Energy Bioavailability

  • Mechanism: Thermal denaturation of proteins and gelatinization of collagen reduce the metabolic cost of digestion.
  • Evidence: Cooked meat provides 12–30% higher net metabolizable energy than raw meat in in vivo studies (PNAS, 2011). Isotope tracer studies confirm reduced fecal energy loss.
  • Cause: Structural breakdown of myofibrillar proteins decreases enzymatic hydrolysis resistance.

2. Protein Digestibility

  • Mechanism: Heat-induced denaturation (unfolding of tertiary structures) increases protease accessibility.
  • Evidence:
    • DIAAS (Digestible Indispensable Amino Acid Score): Cooked meat: 95–99 vs. raw: 92–97 (FAO/WHO).
    • True Ileal Digestibility: Cooked beef: 91–94% vs. raw: 78–82% (American Journal of Clinical Nutrition).
  • Cause: Inactivation of trypsin inhibitors and cathepsin D in raw meat.

3. Pathogen Reduction

  • Mechanism: Thermal lethality (D-values) destroys pathogens via protein coagulation and membrane disruption.
  • Evidence:
    • 7-log reduction: Achieved at 70°C/158°F for 2 min (FDA Food Code).
    • Risk: 30–60% of retail raw chicken contaminated with Campylobacter/Salmonella (CDC).
  • Cause: Denaturation of microbial enzymes and structural proteins.

4. Micronutrient Bioavailability

  • Iron:
    • Heme-iron absorption from cooked meat: 15–35% vs. raw: 5–10% (Journal of Nutrition).
    • Cause: Disruption of porphyrin rings and dissociation from globin.
  • B Vitamins:
    • Thiamine (B1) loss: 40–50% in boiling, mitigated by sous vide (≤10% loss).
    • Bioactive retention: Pressure cooking preserves 90% B12 vs. 60% in raw (oxidation loss).

5. Antinutrient Inactivation

  • Targets:
    • Protease inhibitors (e.g., bovine pancreatic trypsin inhibitor): Denatured at 80°C.
    • Lectins (in offal/organs): Agglutination neutralized >74°C.
  • Evidence: Raw meat consumption correlates with pancreatic hypertrophy in mammals (British Journal of Nutrition).

6. Collagen Hydrolysis

  • Mechanism: Conversion of collagen → gelatin at 60–70°C via helix-coil transition.
  • Benefit: Digestibility increases from 0% (raw) to 98% (cooked). Provides glycine/proline for connective tissue synthesis.

7. Toxic Compound Mitigation

  • Heterocyclic Amines (HCAs):
    • Formation minimized by <200°C cooking and acidic marinades (pH < 3.5 reduces HCA by 90%).
  • Vs. Raw Risk: Biogenic amines (e.g., cadaverine in raw meat) induce histaminic responses.

Summary of Mechanisms​

ParameterRaw MeatCooked MeatScientific Basis
Net Energy Gain70–85% utilization95–100% utilizationReduced digestive thermogenesis
Protein QualityDIAAS 92–97DIAAS 95–99Denaturation → protease access
Pathogen Load10³–10⁶ CFU/g<10 CFU/gThermal death kinetics
Heme-Iron ReleaseBound to undenatured globinFree porphyrinStructural unfolding
Collagen ValueIndigestible98% digestibleHydrolysis at 60–70°C

Conclusion​

Cooking induces irreversible physicochemical transformations:

  1. Protein denaturation → increased protease susceptibility.
  2. Collagen gelatinization → complete hydrolysis.
  3. Pathogen inactivation → logarithmic reduction in viable counts.
  4. Micronutrient liberation → dissociation of heme iron and vitamin complexes.
    These changes collectively enhance nutritional yield, safety, and metabolic efficiency relative to raw meat, as quantified in controlled in vitro/in vivo studies.

Sources:
1.https://news.harvard.edu/gazette/story/2011/11/why-cooking-counts/
2.https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC8305097/
3.https://www.healthline.com/nutrition/cooking-nutrient-content
4.https://www.healthline.com/nutrition/cooking-nutrient-content
5.https://www.nhs.uk/live-well/eat-well/food-types/meat-nutrition/
6.https://www.healthline.com/nutrition/healthiest-way-to-cook-meat
7.https://www.betterhealth.vic.gov.au/health/healthyliving/Meat-and-poultry
8.https://www.bhf.org.uk/informationsupport/heart-matters-magazine/nutrition/ask-the-expert/raw-food
9.https://www.thecrimson.com/article/2011/11/9/research-cooking-energy/
10.https://wearechief.com/blogs/articles/the-science-of-eating-raw-vs-cooked?srsltid=AfmBOoopEJw-xHKLuKFbF4M0tAEO1-nWYjyKogHSJp8jEBt87mPwaUyW
 
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1. Energy Bioavailability

  • Mechanism: Thermal denaturation of proteins and gelatinization of collagen reduce the metabolic cost of digestion.
  • Evidence: Cooked meat provides 12–30% higher net metabolizable energy than raw meat in in vivo studies (PNAS, 2011). Isotope tracer studies confirm reduced fecal energy loss.
  • Cause: Structural breakdown of myofibrillar proteins decreases enzymatic hydrolysis resistance.

2. Protein Digestibility

  • Mechanism: Heat-induced denaturation (unfolding of tertiary structures) increases protease accessibility.
  • Evidence:
    • DIAAS (Digestible Indispensable Amino Acid Score): Cooked meat: 95–99 vs. raw: 92–97 (FAO/WHO).
    • True Ileal Digestibility: Cooked beef: 91–94% vs. raw: 78–82% (American Journal of Clinical Nutrition).
  • Cause: Inactivation of trypsin inhibitors and cathepsin D in raw meat.

3. Pathogen Reduction

  • Mechanism: Thermal lethality (D-values) destroys pathogens via protein coagulation and membrane disruption.
  • Evidence:
    • 7-log reduction: Achieved at 70°C/158°F for 2 min (FDA Food Code).
    • Risk: 30–60% of retail raw chicken contaminated with Campylobacter/Salmonella (CDC).
  • Cause: Denaturation of microbial enzymes and structural proteins.

4. Micronutrient Bioavailability

  • Iron:
    • Heme-iron absorption from cooked meat: 15–35% vs. raw: 5–10% (Journal of Nutrition).
    • Cause: Disruption of porphyrin rings and dissociation from globin.
  • B Vitamins:
    • Thiamine (B1) loss: 40–50% in boiling, mitigated by sous vide (≤10% loss).
    • Bioactive retention: Pressure cooking preserves 90% B12 vs. 60% in raw (oxidation loss).

5. Antinutrient Inactivation

  • Targets:
    • Protease inhibitors (e.g., bovine pancreatic trypsin inhibitor): Denatured at 80°C.
    • Lectins (in offal/organs): Agglutination neutralized >74°C.
  • Evidence: Raw meat consumption correlates with pancreatic hypertrophy in mammals (British Journal of Nutrition).

6. Collagen Hydrolysis

  • Mechanism: Conversion of collagen → gelatin at 60–70°C via helix-coil transition.
  • Benefit: Digestibility increases from 0% (raw) to 98% (cooked). Provides glycine/proline for connective tissue synthesis.

7. Toxic Compound Mitigation

  • Heterocyclic Amines (HCAs):
    • Formation minimized by <200°C cooking and acidic marinades (pH < 3.5 reduces HCA by 90%).
  • Vs. Raw Risk: Biogenic amines (e.g., cadaverine in raw meat) induce histaminic responses.

Summary of Mechanisms​

ParameterRaw MeatCooked MeatScientific Basis
Net Energy Gain70–85% utilization95–100% utilizationReduced digestive thermogenesis
Protein QualityDIAAS 92–97DIAAS 95–99Denaturation → protease access
Pathogen Load10³–10⁶ CFU/g<10 CFU/gThermal death kinetics
Heme-Iron ReleaseBound to undenatured globinFree porphyrinStructural unfolding
Collagen ValueIndigestible98% digestibleHydrolysis at 60–70°C

Conclusion​

Cooking induces irreversible physicochemical transformations:

  1. Protein denaturation → increased protease susceptibility.
  2. Collagen gelatinization → complete hydrolysis.
  3. Pathogen inactivation → logarithmic reduction in viable counts.
  4. Micronutrient liberation → dissociation of heme iron and vitamin complexes.
    These changes collectively enhance nutritional yield, safety, and metabolic efficiency relative to raw meat, as quantified in controlled in vitro/in vivo studies.

Sources:
1.https://news.harvard.edu/gazette/story/2011/11/why-cooking-counts/
2.https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC8305097/
3.https://www.healthline.com/nutrition/cooking-nutrient-content
4.https://www.healthline.com/nutrition/cooking-nutrient-content
5.https://www.nhs.uk/live-well/eat-well/food-types/meat-nutrition/
6.https://www.healthline.com/nutrition/healthiest-way-to-cook-meat
7.https://www.betterhealth.vic.gov.au/health/healthyliving/Meat-and-poultry
8.https://www.bhf.org.uk/informationsupport/heart-matters-magazine/nutrition/ask-the-expert/raw-food
9.https://www.thecrimson.com/article/2011/11/9/research-cooking-energy/
10.https://wearechief.com/blogs/articles/the-science-of-eating-raw-vs-cooked?srsltid=AfmBOoopEJw-xHKLuKFbF4M0tAEO1-nWYjyKogHSJp8jEBt87mPwaUyW
Retard u took this from ai

I could go to chatgpt, put ur wall of text and tell ai to debunk it and it will debunk it

Like whats the point of ai
 
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Retard u took this from ai

I could go to chatgpt, put ur wall of text and tell ai to debunk it and it will debunk it

Like whats the point of ai
Saying it's ai doesn't refute science and you can look up sources
 
Retard u took this from ai

I could go to chatgpt, put ur wall of text and tell ai to debunk it and it will debunk it

Like whats the point of ai
Also watch this vid:
 
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They eat healthy omnivore diet litteraly, yet people like to cope with raw meat, raw milk and disgusting food thinking it will ascend them
You forgot Erik Harding, male model who eats primal publicly
 
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To debunk the claims against eating raw meat and support its consumption, let's address the main points made in the paragraph and provide a counterargument with supporting evidence.

1. **Bacterial concerns**: The paragraph mentions bacteria like Salmonella, E. coli, and Listeria, which are indeed present in raw meat. However, these bacteria are often found on the surface and can be mitigated through proper handling and preparation. For instance, freezing meat at -4°F (-20°C) for several days can kill parasites and reduce bacterial loads ^1,2^ Additionally, soaking meat in a saltwater or vinegar solution can help eliminate surface bacteria. Moreover, the human stomach acid is strong enough to kill most of these bacteria, so healthy individuals with robust stomach acidity can often consume raw meat without issue ^1,2,3^

2. **Parasites**: The risk of parasites is valid, but proper sourcing and preparation can mitigate this concern. For example, freezing meat at -4°F (-20°C) for a sufficient period can kill parasites ^1,2^ Additionally, choosing meat from grass-fed, free-range, or wild animals can reduce the likelihood of parasites, as these animals typically have a more natural and varied diet, which can help prevent parasite infestations ^1,2,3^

3. **Nutritional benefits**: Raw meat offers several nutritional advantages. Cooking meat can denature proteins and reduce the availability of certain vitamins and minerals. For example, cooking can destroy up to 40% of the vitamin B content in meat ^4,5^ Additionally, raw meat contains beneficial enzymes that are often destroyed during the cooking process. These enzymes can aid in digestion and nutrient absorption ^4,5^

4. **Historical and cultural context**: Many cultures and traditional diets have included raw meat as a regular part of their nutrition. For instance, the Inuit people have traditionally consumed raw meat and fish as a significant part of their diet, and they have evolved to have a strong stomach acidity to handle this ^6,3^ Additionally, raw meat diets, such as the "caveman diet" or "paleo diet," have gained popularity in recent years, with many people reporting improved health and digestion ^6,3,7^

5. **Immune system stimulation**: Consuming raw meat can stimulate the immune system, as the body works to combat any potential pathogens. This can lead to a stronger immune response and better overall immune function ^6,3^

In conclusion, while there are valid concerns about eating raw meat, proper handling, preparation, and sourcing can mitigate many of these risks. Additionally, raw meat offers several nutritional benefits and can stimulate the immune system. As with any food, it's essential to make an informed decision based on personal health goals and tolerances.

7 Citations

Raw meat safe eating | NSW Food Authority

Raw meat - Wikipedia

Why can't humans eat raw meat anymore? - The Environmental Literacy Council

Cooked vs. Raw Meat: Which Is More Nutritious? - TheCookingBooks

Science of Eating Raw vs. Cooked Foods | Chief Nutrition

The dangers of eating raw meat

Raw foodism - Wikipedia
 
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To debuefficaclaims against eating raw meat and support its consumption, let's address the main points made in the paragraph and provide a counterargument with supporting evidence.

1. **Bacterial concerns**: The paragraph mentions bacteria like Salmonella, E. coli, and Listeria, which are indeed present in raw meat. However, these bacteria are often found on the surface and can be mitigated through proper handling and preparation. For instance, freezing meat at -4°F (-20°C) for several days can kill parasites and reduce bacterial loads ^1,2^ Additionally, soaking meat in a saltwater or vinegar solution can help eliminate surface bacteria. Moreover, the human stomach acid is strong enough to kill most of these bacteria, so healthy individuals with robust stomach acidity can often consume raw meat without issue ^1,2,3^

2. **Parasites**: The risk of parasites is valid, but proper sourcing and preparation can mitigate this concern. For example, freezing meat at -4°F (-20°C) for a sufficient period can kill parasites ^1,2^ Additionally, choosing meat from grass-fed, free-range, or wild animals can reduce the likelihood of parasites, as these animals typically have a more natural and varied diet, which can help prevent parasite infestations ^1,2,3^

3. **Nutritional benefits**: Raw meat offers several nutritional advantages. Cooking meat can denature proteins and reduce the availability of certain vitamins and minerals. For example, cooking can destroy up to 40% of the vitamin B content in meat ^4,5^ Additionally, raw meat contains beneficial enzymes that are often destroyed during the cooking process. These enzymes can aid in digestion and nutrient absorption ^4,5^

4. **Historical and cultural context**: Many cultures and traditional diets have included raw meat as a regular part of their nutrition. For instance, the Inuit people have traditionally consumed raw meat and fish as a significant part of their diet, and they have evolved to have a strong stomach acidity to handle this ^6,3^ Additionally, raw meat diets, such as the "caveman diet" or "paleo diet," have gained popularity in recent years, with many people reporting improved health and digestion ^6,3,7^

5. **Immune system stimulation**: Consuming raw meat can stimulate the immune system, as the body works to combat any potential pathogens. This can lead to a stronger immune response and better overall immune function ^6,3^

In conclusion, while there are valid concerns about eating raw meat, proper handling, preparation, and sourcing can mitigate many of these risks. Additionally, raw meat offers several nutritional benefits and can stimulate the immune system. As with any food, it's essential to make an informed decision based on personal health goals and tolerances.

7 Citations

Raw meat safe eating | NSW Food Authority

Raw meat - Wikipedia

Why can't humans eat raw meat anymore? - The Environmental Literacy Council

Cooked vs. Raw Meat: Which Is More Nutritious? - TheCookingBooks

Science of Eating Raw vs. Cooked Foods | Chief Nutrition

The dangers of eating raw meat

Raw foodism - Wikipedia
Scientific Debunking of Raw Meat Consumption Claims
1. Bacterial Concerns: Surface Contamination is Not the Only Risk
- Penetration into Muscle Tissue : Bacteria like Salmonella , E. coli , and Listeria can penetrate up to 2 cm deep into meat within 1–3 days, especially at higher temperatures (15–20°C). Surface treatments (e.g., saltwater/vinegar) fail to reach embedded pathogens .
- Freezing Ineffectiveness : Freezing at -20°C reduces but does not eliminate pathogens. E. coli O157:H7 and Listeria survive freezer temperatures and reactivate upon thawing .
- Stomach Acid Limitations : While gastric acid kills some bacteria, low infectious doses (e.g., 10–100 E. coli cells) can cause illness. Vulnerable groups (children, elderly, immunocompromised) lack sufficient acid defenses .
- Real-World Data : 30–60% of retail raw chicken is contaminated with Campylobacter or Salmonella , and multidrug-resistant strains are common in beef .
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2. Parasites: Freezing and Sourcing Are Unreliable Mitigations
- Incomplete Freezing Efficacy : While freezing kills some parasites (e.g., Trichinella ), others like Toxoplasma gondii require -30°C for 3 days —colder than household freezers .
- "Natural Diets" Myth : Grass-fed/wild animals still harbor parasites. Wild game and free-range livestock show high Toxoplasma and Trichinella rates .
- Cooking is the Only Sure Kill-Step : Parasite destruction requires core temperatures of ≥75°C , unattainable with freezing or surface treatments .
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3. Nutritional Benefits: Cooking Enhances Bioavailability
- Protein Digestibility :
- Cooked meat has a Digestible Indispensable Amino Acid Score (DIAAS) of 95–99 vs. 92–97 for raw meat. Heat denaturation increases protease accessibility .
- Isotope studies show 180% higher amino acid absorption in cooked vs. raw meat .
- Vitamin Retention :
- While cooking reduces some B vitamins by 40–60%, these losses are mitigated by consuming cooking juices (e.g., au jus retains >90%) .
- Heme-Iron absorption is 23% from cooked meat vs. 5–10% from raw. Heat liberates iron from myoglobin .
- Enzyme Myth : Plant/enzymes in raw meat are denatured by stomach acid and provide no digestive benefit. Humans produce their own enzymes .
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4. Historical/Cultural Context: Misinterpreted Evidence
- Inuit Practices : Contrary to claims, Inuit traditionally cooked meat using animal-fat lamps or fermented it. Raw consumption was rare and survival-driven, not optimal .
- Starvation on Raw Diets : Historical accounts (e.g., the shipwrecked Robertson family) show raw diets caused severe malnutrition and starvation despite abundant food .
- Evolutionary Biology : Humans evolved smaller guts and larger brains due to cooking , which provided surplus energy. Raw diets fail to meet caloric needs .
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5. Immune "Stimulation": A Dangerous Misconception
- Pathogen Exposure ≠ Immunity : Ingesting pathogens (e.g., Salmonella ) causes acute illness (fever, diarrhea) or long-term sequelae (kidney failure from E. coli ), not immunity .
- Vulnerable Groups : Pregnant women risk fetal blindness/death from Toxoplasma ; children face hemolytic uremic syndrome from E. coli .
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Key Science-Based Recommendations
1. Cooking Methods :
- Sous vide/pressure cooking : Preserves 95% nutrients while ensuring pathogen destruction .
- Marinating : Acidic marinades reduce carcinogens (e.g., HCAs) by 90% during cooking .
2. Food Safety Practices :
- Avoid cross-contamination: Use separate cutting boards for raw/cooked foods .
- Cook ground beef to 160°F (71°C) to eliminate E. coli .
3. Nutritional Balance :
- Cooked meat provides 30% more net energy than raw, crucial for metabolic efficiency .
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Conclusion: Why Cooking is Non-Negotiable
Cooking is an evolutionary adaptation that enabled human development by unlocking nutrients and ensuring safety. Raw meat consumption poses unacceptable risks from pathogens and parasites, while its purported benefits are disproven by nutrient bioavailability studies. Modern food safety relies on cooking—not wishful thinking about "natural" diets .
> Final Verdict : The claims supporting raw meat are scientifically unsound . Cooking remains essential for health, safety, and nutritional efficacy.

Sources:
 
Surely they don’t make all of the meals they’ve listed in their TikTok’s every single day? Seems like an exaggerated overcomplication of effort in which their life would solely consist of exercising and cooking.

Nice food tho.
 
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