THIS IS YOUR FUTURE IF YOU KEEP WATCHING PORN

[Deleted member 13318]

 

[Deleted member 13318]

Death to those that shit on nofap

 

[randomuser2407]

Death to those that shit on nofap

I shit on Nofap.

It is only through the act of masturbation that you can achieve post nut clarity, you cannot get it anywhere else, so, if you don't jerk off and you have a high libido, you will become so sexually frustrated that you will think about sex 24/7, so you will never be able to be productive because you will always be too horny.

And if you do it for too long, you may reach a point where you lose your libido completely, so you become like an eunch and your testicles become pretty much useless at this point.

By the way, it's not wrong to have fetishes as long as they don't prevent you from living your life at the same time. Fetishes should either be kept as a fantasy in your head, or they should make the sex better, they should never become an obsession. Porn is not the reason why you develop fetishes, porn only allows you to discover what is already within you.

Also, some people make the mistake of believing that the fetish will be as pleasurable in real life as in their mind when in fact, most of the time, it isn't the case at all.

The reason why Nofap doesn't work is because even if you stop watching porn, you will still think of your fantasies in your head and you will have the urge to jerk off to that instead of the porn so the result will be the exact same.

Nofap is based on theories and the experiences of its users but what those people don't realize is that even if they had been raised in a very religious family which prevented them from using porn, they would still have developed the same fetishes because they were meant to have them. I know because the fetishes that I have today are the same as years before I started watching porn, so porn isn't what causes fetishes.

Also, Nofap's goal is to replace masturbation with real sex so instead of telling you to get into a relationship with a woman that you like or hooking up with women that you like, it tells you to become so thirsty that even the ugliest and fattest women will be attractive enough. So what ends up happening is that you have sex with an obese woman, and in the moment you get your first orgasm, that is when you get post nut clarity and realize that the woman you are with is much uglier than you thought and that is when you regret the experience.

Nofap doesn't make it easier to get laid, it just severely lowers your standards and makes you willing to have sex with all women, no matter how ugly/fat they are.


TL;DR : Porn + Masturbation = Post Nut Clarity | Nofap = Thirst which blinds you and makes you make bad decisions.

 

[randomuser2407]

source?

I'm not saying that you will not be able to get back your libido. It will come back once you start having sex again or masturbating.

But your libido will disappear if you don't masturbate or have sex at all because if you don't use it, you lose it (temporarily).

Nofap claims that masturbation is bad since it emulates sex, but in reality, masturbation achieves the same thing as sex, which is sexual satisfaction.

Masturbation: Health Benefits, Side Effects, Myths, FAQs

Masturbation is a healthy, natural, and safe way to practice self-care. Learn the benefits, myths, and potential side effects.

www.healthline.com

11 Health Benefits That'll Make You Love Masturbation Even More

An orgasm a day keeps the doctor away.

www.menshealth.com

Science proves that masturbation is healthy, this is not even a debatable fact, it has been known for many years.

Nofap doesn't believe in science though, kind of like the flat earthers and the anti-vaccine people.

 

[Deleted member 13318]

I shit on Nofap.

It is only through the act of masturbation that you can achieve post nut clarity, you cannot get it anywhere else, so, if you don't jerk off and you have a high libido, you will become so sexually frustrated that you will think about sex 24/7, so you will never be able to be productive because you will always be too horny.

And if you do it for too long, you may reach a point where you lose your libido completely, so you become like an eunch and your testicles become pretty much useless at this point.

By the way, it's not wrong to have fetishes as long as they don't prevent you from living your life at the same time. Fetishes should either be kept as a fantasy in your head, or they should make the sex better, they should never become an obsession. Porn is not the reason why you develop fetishes, porn only allows you to discover what is already within you.

Also, some people make the mistake of believing that the fetish will be as pleasurable in real life as in their mind when in fact, most of the time, it isn't the case at all.

The reason why Nofap doesn't work is because even if you stop watching porn, you will still think of your fantasies in your head and you will have the urge to jerk off to that instead of the porn so the result will be the exact same.

Nofap is based on theories and the experiences of its users but what those people don't realize is that even if they had been raised in a very religious family which prevented them from using porn, they would still have developed the same fetishes because they were meant to have them. I know because the fetishes that I have today are the same as years before I started watching porn, so porn isn't what causes fetishes.

Also, Nofap's goal is to replace masturbation with real sex so instead of telling you to get into a relationship with a woman that you like or hooking up with women that you like, it tells you to become so thirsty that even the ugliest and fattest women will be attractive enough. So what ends up happening is that you have sex with an obese woman, and in the moment you get your first orgasm, that is when you get post nut clarity and realize that the woman you are with is much uglier than you thought and that is when you regret the experience.

Nofap doesn't make it easier to get laid, it just severely lowers your standards and makes you willing to have sex with all women, no matter how ugly/fat they are.


TL;DR : Porn + Masturbation = Post Nut Clarity | Nofap = Thirst which blinds you and makes you make bad decisions.

Nofap until you fuck a real girl. But that’s just me. You can still fap however porn is poison

 

[Deleted member 13994]

honestly what psychological trauma does one have to go through to do these acts to oneself

 

[Entschuldigung]

Science proves that masturbation is healthy, this is not even a debatable fact, it has been known for many years.

Nofap doesn't believe in science though, kind of like the flat earthers and the anti-vaccine people.

LE SCIENCE
LE SCIENCE

MEN CAN BE WOMEN

THE SCIENCE SAYS

 

[Deleted member 13318]

I shit on Nofap.

It is only through the act of masturbation that you can achieve post nut clarity, you cannot get it anywhere else, so, if you don't jerk off and you have a high libido, you will become so sexually frustrated that you will think about sex 24/7, so you will never be able to be productive because you will always be too horny.

And if you do it for too long, you may reach a point where you lose your libido completely, so you become like an eunch and your testicles become pretty much useless at this point.

By the way, it's not wrong to have fetishes as long as they don't prevent you from living your life at the same time. Fetishes should either be kept as a fantasy in your head, or they should make the sex better, they should never become an obsession. Porn is not the reason why you develop fetishes, porn only allows you to discover what is already within you.

Also, some people make the mistake of believing that the fetish will be as pleasurable in real life as in their mind when in fact, most of the time, it isn't the case at all.

The reason why Nofap doesn't work is because even if you stop watching porn, you will still think of your fantasies in your head and you will have the urge to jerk off to that instead of the porn so the result will be the exact same.

Nofap is based on theories and the experiences of its users but what those people don't realize is that even if they had been raised in a very religious family which prevented them from using porn, they would still have developed the same fetishes because they were meant to have them. I know because the fetishes that I have today are the same as years before I started watching porn, so porn isn't what causes fetishes.

Also, Nofap's goal is to replace masturbation with real sex so instead of telling you to get into a relationship with a woman that you like or hooking up with women that you like, it tells you to become so thirsty that even the ugliest and fattest women will be attractive enough. So what ends up happening is that you have sex with an obese woman, and in the moment you get your first orgasm, that is when you get post nut clarity and realize that the woman you are with is much uglier than you thought and that is when you regret the experience.

Nofap doesn't make it easier to get laid, it just severely lowers your standards and makes you willing to have sex with all women, no matter how ugly/fat they are.


TL;DR : Porn + Masturbation = Post Nut Clarity | Nofap = Thirst which blinds you and makes you make bad decisions.

Death to you

 

[No Type]

thanks for the fap material

 

[Deleted member 6423]

TL;DR : Porn + Masturbation = Post Nut Clarity | Nofap = Thirst which blinds you and makes you make bad decisions.

aka nofap makes you low inhib and masculine and porn gives u a foids mind

 

[colortheory]

I shit on Nofap.

It is only through the act of masturbation that you can achieve post nut clarity, you cannot get it anywhere else, so, if you don't jerk off and you have a high libido, you will become so sexually frustrated that you will think about sex 24/7, so you will never be able to be productive because you will always be too horny.

And if you do it for too long, you may reach a point where you lose your libido completely, so you become like an eunch and your testicles become pretty much useless at this point.

By the way, it's not wrong to have fetishes as long as they don't prevent you from living your life at the same time. Fetishes should either be kept as a fantasy in your head, or they should make the sex better, they should never become an obsession. Porn is not the reason why you develop fetishes, porn only allows you to discover what is already within you.

Also, some people make the mistake of believing that the fetish will be as pleasurable in real life as in their mind when in fact, most of the time, it isn't the case at all.

The reason why Nofap doesn't work is because even if you stop watching porn, you will still think of your fantasies in your head and you will have the urge to jerk off to that instead of the porn so the result will be the exact same.

Nofap is based on theories and the experiences of its users but what those people don't realize is that even if they had been raised in a very religious family which prevented them from using porn, they would still have developed the same fetishes because they were meant to have them. I know because the fetishes that I have today are the same as years before I started watching porn, so porn isn't what causes fetishes.

Also, Nofap's goal is to replace masturbation with real sex so instead of telling you to get into a relationship with a woman that you like or hooking up with women that you like, it tells you to become so thirsty that even the ugliest and fattest women will be attractive enough. So what ends up happening is that you have sex with an obese woman, and in the moment you get your first orgasm, that is when you get post nut clarity and realize that the woman you are with is much uglier than you thought and that is when you regret the experience.

Nofap doesn't make it easier to get laid, it just severely lowers your standards and makes you willing to have sex with all women, no matter how ugly/fat they are.


TL;DR : Porn + Masturbation = Post Nut Clarity | Nofap = Thirst which blinds you and makes you make bad decisions.

Coomer cope.

 

[Deleted member 13409]

watching porn is fine as long as it’s vanilla and not depraved and you don’t develop a dependence on it. The only time where it’s a good idea to stop watching porn is if you’re in a relationship because sex should be enough to suffice, either that or you need a new gf who gives you some. Or you can slay if that’s your preferred method

nofap is dumb normie redpill shit, “I have no luck with women and have no success in life, I could blame my general apathy towards life and lack of drive, instead let me blame videos of girls getting filled with semen that I crank my meat to a few minutes per day”. It’s some sort of way for failures to project the reason for lack of achievement and appeal on something external and it’s sad as fuck

being a coomer is also obviously bad but most people just watch some porn every now and then. If you have no urge to watch porn and aren’t slaying or in a relationship then your libido has issues

 

[Deleted member 5799]

its not my future its my present

 

[Deleted member 14274]

Death to those that shit on nofap

Agree with this and guy in your avi has a great neck

 

[Deleted member 14274]

I shit on Nofap.

It is only through the act of masturbation that you can achieve post nut clarity, you cannot get it anywhere else, so, if you don't jerk off and you have a high libido, you will become so sexually frustrated that you will think about sex 24/7, so you will never be able to be productive because you will always be too horny.

And if you do it for too long, you may reach a point where you lose your libido completely, so you become like an eunch and your testicles become pretty much useless at this point.

By the way, it's not wrong to have fetishes as long as they don't prevent you from living your life at the same time. Fetishes should either be kept as a fantasy in your head, or they should make the sex better, they should never become an obsession. Porn is not the reason why you develop fetishes, porn only allows you to discover what is already within you.

Also, some people make the mistake of believing that the fetish will be as pleasurable in real life as in their mind when in fact, most of the time, it isn't the case at all.

The reason why Nofap doesn't work is because even if you stop watching porn, you will still think of your fantasies in your head and you will have the urge to jerk off to that instead of the porn so the result will be the exact same.

Nofap is based on theories and the experiences of its users but what those people don't realize is that even if they had been raised in a very religious family which prevented them from using porn, they would still have developed the same fetishes because they were meant to have them. I know because the fetishes that I have today are the same as years before I started watching porn, so porn isn't what causes fetishes.

Also, Nofap's goal is to replace masturbation with real sex so instead of telling you to get into a relationship with a woman that you like or hooking up with women that you like, it tells you to become so thirsty that even the ugliest and fattest women will be attractive enough. So what ends up happening is that you have sex with an obese woman, and in the moment you get your first orgasm, that is when you get post nut clarity and realize that the woman you are with is much uglier than you thought and that is when you regret the experience.

Nofap doesn't make it easier to get laid, it just severely lowers your standards and makes you willing to have sex with all women, no matter how ugly/fat they are.


TL;DR : Porn + Masturbation = Post Nut Clarity | Nofap = Thirst which blinds you and makes you make bad decisions.

Do you get laid?

 

[oldcelloser]

no fap is a cope in the sense that doing it for a month or so as this retards do is worse for you than fapping obviously since your brain thinks its sex and cant make out the difference
so let your balls fill up and fap once every 2-3 days only , if and only if you dont have gf or cant get girls or slay because whatever reasons ou have
dont abstain for more than a week ; its not actually healthy, it will probably frustrate you and spike your cortisol and other stress hormones and put you into ER state of mind
its not rocket science, i thought everybody knew this by now?

 

[Deleted member 13318]

no fap is a cope in the sense that doing it for a month or so as this retards do is worse for you than fapping obviously since your brain thinks its sex and cant make out the difference
so let your balls fill up and fap once every 2-3 days only , if and only if you dont have gf or cant get girls or slay because whatever reasons ou have
dont abstain for more than a week ; its not actually healthy, it will probably frustrate you and spike your cortisol and other stress hormones and put you into ER state of mind
its not rocket science, i thought everybody knew this by now?

Coomer cope

 

[oldcelloser]

Coomer cope

ok dude just abstain for 1 year if you have nothing to fuck, see how you'll feel (obv worse)

 

[Deleted member 13318]

ok dude just abstain for 1 year if you have nothing to fuck, see how you'll feel (obv worse)

Actually I agree but porn is poison

 

[randomuser2407]

Nofap until you fuck a real girl. But that’s just me. You can still fap however porn is poison

It depends on the effect that it has.

I just discovered yesterday that what the youtuber LFA says is true. Men chase championships (goals and dreams), women chase champions (Ambitious successful men who have a very productive lifestyle and look good too as a result).

In other words, men who are focused on their own personal success who don't chase women are the ones who will improve themselves to the point where they are able to easily get laid without much effort.

You shouldn't be obsessed with the goal of getting laid if you still live with your parents. Your first goal should be to get a career, then move out, and of course looksmax and improve yourself and then getting laid will be extremely easy for you.

The problem with Nofap is that, for most guys, it will make them focus 100% of their attention on women and during that time, they aren't improving themselves so they never reach a point where they can attract women easily, so they waste their time. Also, achieving personal success grants you other benefits than just sex, it makes you feel like you have a true purpose, like you have accomplished important things, so it gives your life a lot of meaning, and then the sex comes with it as a reward for your hard work. This is why your main goal should never be women. Also, women tend to have a much higher level of respect towards the men who are focused on themselves than the men who are so desperate to get laid.

As for the idea of sexual transmutation, it sounds good on paper but most guys never achieve this, Nofap just turns them into desperate sexually frustrated men who are willing to go as far as having sex with a fat woman. Also, when you do this, you let your lizard brain take over, which means you could make the impulsive decision of not using a condom which could really ruin your life if the woman gets pregnant. The more you jerk off, the more logical you will be when dealing with women, and you'll last longer in bed because you won't be too horny.

It is only if you jerk off too much that it is bad, like if you do it every time you get an erection, then maybe it will completely ruin your sex drive, but even then, that is only a problem if you have improved yourself to the point where a lot of women want to be with you, that is the only time where you need to reduce your porn consumption and replace that with real sex. In the meantime, porn is the best way to gain back control over your logical brain and it is fine as long as you don't use it for more than 5-10 minutes at a time, because there is no point in wasting hours on something which doesn't make your life better.

Also, nofap puts you at a much higher risk of developing prostate cancer, that is why masturbation is a healthy thing. Also, like I said, it is pretty much like sex in biological terms, since you're just stimulating friction with your hand, so the effect is similar to sex except for the fact that when you masturbate, you're alone and you have full control over the amount of friction that you want to use, so the health benefits of sex are similar to those of masturbation, so they aren't wrong. As for porn, like I said, it is the same as having sexual fantasies except that the visual stimulation makes it look more real so it's easier to feel aroused.


@trendouche56 @colortheory @thesexiestboulalive @looksmaxpro

 

[randomuser2407]

Do you get laid?

No but that's because it's not my main goal.

The thing is that I am at a weight of 180 lbs at 6 foot 4 which makes me look skinny, and I still live with my parents.
I have no college degree, no career, and almost no money in savings.

I'm not an ugly guy but I'm quite far from where I want to be. I'm not aiming to be perfect, but at the same time, I can't focus on getting laid when my life is such a mess.

The reason why I am in my current situation is because from 2015 to 2021, I was extremely lazy. My longest job lasted 9 months, and I only had 3 other jobs which lasted each 1-2 months, and for the rest of the time I was a NEET or going to school without putting in any effort.

So, I wasted 6 years of my life. This is mainly because I have ADHD and I am on the autism spectrum. My autism doesn't prevent me from making friends, but it has made me obsessed with the wrong things, so instead of focusing on studying, I was focused on trying to looksmax and trying to get laid, which I never succeeded (except for the jaw surgery), especially because I was too lazy to put in any effort into anything.
Also, it's not like I was not trying to succeed, but I wasn't organized, and I didn't know what to do with my life.

And because of the way the school system is where I live, I have to do 3 years of pre university, then I can go do 3 years of university in computer science. So, at the age of 23, I have 6 years of school to do before being completely setup for my career. So, I still have a long way to go before moving out from my parents' house because if I move out early, I would have to work to pay my bills and I can't do that while going to school. So, moving out earlier would force me to work for minimum wage (wage slave) for the rest of my life, which is why I can't do that.

 

[Lolcel]

This was worse than beheading and cartel videos

 

[ChristianChad]

Science proves that masturbation is healthy, this is not even a debatable fact, it has been known for many years

just fucking lol, how much of a beta do you have to be
muh science

 

[King Solomon]

No but that's because it's not my main goal.

The thing is that I am at a weight of 180 lbs at 6 foot 4 which makes me look skinny, and I still live with my parents.
I have no college degree, no career, and almost no money in savings.

I'm not an ugly guy but I'm quite far from where I want to be. I'm not aiming to be perfect, but at the same time, I can't focus on getting laid when my life is such a mess.

The reason why I am in my current situation is because from 2015 to 2021, I was extremely lazy. My longest job lasted 9 months, and I only had 3 other jobs which lasted each 1-2 months, and for the rest of the time I was a NEET or going to school without putting in any effort.

So, I wasted 6 years of my life. This is mainly because I have ADHD and I am on the autism spectrum. My autism doesn't prevent me from making friends, but it has made me obsessed with the wrong things, so instead of focusing on studying, I was focused on trying to looksmax and trying to get laid, which I never succeeded (except for the jaw surgery), especially because I was too lazy to put in any effort into anything.
Also, it's not like I was not trying to succeed, but I wasn't organized, and I didn't know what to do with my life.

And because of the way the school system is where I live, I have to do 3 years of pre university, then I can go do 3 years of university in computer science. So, at the age of 23, I have 6 years of school to do before being completely setup for my career. So, I still have a long way to go before moving out from my parents' house because if I move out early, I would have to work to pay my bills and I can't do that while going to school. So, moving out earlier would force me to work for minimum wage (wage slave) for the rest of my life, which is why I can't do that.

I would say try semen retention because it can only improve your situation. For me, I've gone one year in going full monk mode and it improved my memory, focus, and testosterone (could be other things as well). In 2015 I had to reflect on myself to see that I had been wasting time pumping and dumping women, spending money on worthless things and going no where with my career (at least in terms of income)

Habbits I adopted:

1.) Semen retention
2.) Daily workouts
3.) Plant based diet
4.) Tracking calories and workouts
5.) reading
6.) Working on my career outlook and skills daily
7.) Investing/trading
8.) No debt
9.) Mewing and facial exercises daily

After all this I increased my net worth from -$10,000 to over 7 figures now by investing heavily in crypto in 2015 and 2020. I own my own off grid property and 2 rental properties with no loan. I make over six figures as a block chain developer that took me 6 months to learn the skill. I gained 37 lbs of muscle and lost 40 lbs of fat. I am more free than 99.9% of the people in this world as I can live in my off grid self sufficient home and no longer a require a job or business to sustain myself.

Next goals: I would like to start a family but after being introduced to the black pill and red pill I only see risks with women and I don't see how it will be possible to maintain a life long relationship and have a great family. This is where I struggle most but I don't think these boards are the answer for me. I will continue to improve myself daily and be positive but I don't think there is a right woman out there on this earth for me. I'm very protective of my resources and have little trust with females of our time.

Well I hope this helps you on your journey. The worst thing that happens by trying these positive happens is it only improves your life slightly. Good luck to you.

 

[Mansea]

It depends on the effect that it has.

I just discovered yesterday that what the youtuber LFA says is true. Men chase championships (goals and dreams), women chase champions (Ambitious successful men who have a very productive lifestyle and look good too as a result).

In other words, men who are focused on their own personal success who don't chase women are the ones who will improve themselves to the point where they are able to easily get laid without much effort.

You shouldn't be obsessed with the goal of getting laid if you still live with your parents. Your first goal should be to get a career, then move out, and of course looksmax and improve yourself and then getting laid will be extremely easy for you.

The problem with Nofap is that, for most guys, it will make them focus 100% of their attention on women and during that time, they aren't improving themselves so they never reach a point where they can attract women easily, so they waste their time. Also, achieving personal success grants you other benefits than just sex, it makes you feel like you have a true purpose, like you have accomplished important things, so it gives your life a lot of meaning, and then the sex comes with it as a reward for your hard work. This is why your main goal should never be women. Also, women tend to have a much higher level of respect towards the men who are focused on themselves than the men who are so desperate to get laid.

As for the idea of sexual transmutation, it sounds good on paper but most guys never achieve this, Nofap just turns them into desperate sexually frustrated men who are willing to go as far as having sex with a fat woman. Also, when you do this, you let your lizard brain take over, which means you could make the impulsive decision of not using a condom which could really ruin your life if the woman gets pregnant. The more you jerk off, the more logical you will be when dealing with women, and you'll last longer in bed because you won't be too horny.

It is only if you jerk off too much that it is bad, like if you do it every time you get an erection, then maybe it will completely ruin your sex drive, but even then, that is only a problem if you have improved yourself to the point where a lot of women want to be with you, that is the only time where you need to reduce your porn consumption and replace that with real sex. In the meantime, porn is the best way to gain back control over your logical brain and it is fine as long as you don't use it for more than 5-10 minutes at a time, because there is no point in wasting hours on something which doesn't make your life better.

Also, nofap puts you at a much higher risk of developing prostate cancer, that is why masturbation is a healthy thing. Also, like I said, it is pretty much like sex in biological terms, since you're just stimulating friction with your hand, so the effect is similar to sex except for the fact that when you masturbate, you're alone and you have full control over the amount of friction that you want to use, so the health benefits of sex are similar to those of masturbation, so they aren't wrong. As for porn, like I said, it is the same as having sexual fantasies except that the visual stimulation makes it look more real so it's easier to feel aroused.


@trendouche56 @colortheory @thesexiestboulalive @looksmaxpro

HIGHEST IQ POST IVE EVER READ .... straight gems

This is why your main goal should never be women. Also, women tend to have a much higher level of respect towards the men who are focused on themselves than the men who are so desperate to get laid.

The problem with Nofap is that, for most guys, it will make them focus 100% of their attention on women and during that time, they aren't improving themselves so they never reach a point where they can attract women easily, so they waste their time.

 

[Deleted member 14274]

No but that's because it's not my main goal.

The thing is that I am at a weight of 180 lbs at 6 foot 4 which makes me look skinny, and I still live with my parents.
I have no college degree, no career, and almost no money in savings.

I'm not an ugly guy but I'm quite far from where I want to be. I'm not aiming to be perfect, but at the same time, I can't focus on getting laid when my life is such a mess.

The reason why I am in my current situation is because from 2015 to 2021, I was extremely lazy. My longest job lasted 9 months, and I only had 3 other jobs which lasted each 1-2 months, and for the rest of the time I was a NEET or going to school without putting in any effort.

So, I wasted 6 years of my life. This is mainly because I have ADHD and I am on the autism spectrum. My autism doesn't prevent me from making friends, but it has made me obsessed with the wrong things, so instead of focusing on studying, I was focused on trying to looksmax and trying to get laid, which I never succeeded (except for the jaw surgery), especially because I was too lazy to put in any effort into anything.
Also, it's not like I was not trying to succeed, but I wasn't organized, and I didn't know what to do with my life.

And because of the way the school system is where I live, I have to do 3 years of pre university, then I can go do 3 years of university in computer science. So, at the age of 23, I have 6 years of school to do before being completely setup for my career. So, I still have a long way to go before moving out from my parents' house because if I move out early, I would have to work to pay my bills and I can't do that while going to school. So, moving out earlier would force me to work for minimum wage (wage slave) for the rest of my life, which is why I can't do that.

That’s fair dude good luck you’ll bang some girl eventually it’s not a big deal.

 

[King Solomon]

It depends on the effect that it has.

I just discovered yesterday that what the youtuber LFA says is true. Men chase championships (goals and dreams), women chase champions (Ambitious successful men who have a very productive lifestyle and look good too as a result).

In other words, men who are focused on their own personal success who don't chase women are the ones who will improve themselves to the point where they are able to easily get laid without much effort.

You shouldn't be obsessed with the goal of getting laid if you still live with your parents. Your first goal should be to get a career, then move out, and of course looksmax and improve yourself and then getting laid will be extremely easy for you.

The problem with Nofap is that, for most guys, it will make them focus 100% of their attention on women and during that time, they aren't improving themselves so they never reach a point where they can attract women easily, so they waste their time. Also, achieving personal success grants you other benefits than just sex, it makes you feel like you have a true purpose, like you have accomplished important things, so it gives your life a lot of meaning, and then the sex comes with it as a reward for your hard work. This is why your main goal should never be women. Also, women tend to have a much higher level of respect towards the men who are focused on themselves than the men who are so desperate to get laid.

As for the idea of sexual transmutation, it sounds good on paper but most guys never achieve this, Nofap just turns them into desperate sexually frustrated men who are willing to go as far as having sex with a fat woman. Also, when you do this, you let your lizard brain take over, which means you could make the impulsive decision of not using a condom which could really ruin your life if the woman gets pregnant. The more you jerk off, the more logical you will be when dealing with women, and you'll last longer in bed because you won't be too horny.

It is only if you jerk off too much that it is bad, like if you do it every time you get an erection, then maybe it will completely ruin your sex drive, but even then, that is only a problem if you have improved yourself to the point where a lot of women want to be with you, that is the only time where you need to reduce your porn consumption and replace that with real sex. In the meantime, porn is the best way to gain back control over your logical brain and it is fine as long as you don't use it for more than 5-10 minutes at a time, because there is no point in wasting hours on something which doesn't make your life better.

Also, nofap puts you at a much higher risk of developing prostate cancer, that is why masturbation is a healthy thing. Also, like I said, it is pretty much like sex in biological terms, since you're just stimulating friction with your hand, so the effect is similar to sex except for the fact that when you masturbate, you're alone and you have full control over the amount of friction that you want to use, so the health benefits of sex are similar to those of masturbation, so they aren't wrong. As for porn, like I said, it is the same as having sexual fantasies except that the visual stimulation makes it look more real so it's easier to feel aroused.


@trendouche56 @colortheory @thesexiestboulalive @looksmaxpro

Porn and masturbation has a short term and long term negative effect on the body and mind that continues to compound over time.

Semen retention is the greatest tool men can use to win championships through sexual transmutation. Many men who've reached peak form and become the world's greatest athletes, philosophers, inventors, egnineers, etc used this method. Using different forms of yoga and qigong to help disperse the semen back into the body to receive all the positive benefits is something most men don't practice along with semen retention. This is why they stay hyper focused on sex and females while practicing semen retention. Also, they don't have goals or a purpose in life outside of getting women. You should have a purpose and goals and chase those things and the females will follow. Females wait for men at the end of the finish line.

using porn and masturbation in the short term even if sparingly has negative effects and little to no positive benefits. You're wasting your time, energy and life force which causes and earlier death. The only reason for the seed is to procreate if you drain it on worthless pictures on a screen or in a sock then you're wasting your energy, time, and life.

Also, if you wish to increase your stamina in bed and still feel amazing orgasms (multiple per session) while not wasting a single drop of semen you can use edging. Edging allows you to jack hammer women for hours and you can have multiple orgasms but not lose a drop of semen because with practice you can hold the semen in. This allows you to receive all the benefits of semen retention while enjoying the pleasures of sex. I would still reccommend only doing this with a woman in a relationship and not just cucking yourself by watching porn or stroking your shit and wasting time.



In conclusion there are zero benefits to watching porn and masturbating outside of the temporary good feeling that ends up destroying you the more you do it and the longer you do it for. If one practices edging they can still have sex without losing a drop of semen and drastically improving one's sexual endurance. If one practices semen retention and sexual transmutation (with qigong and yoga) they receive many benefits including higher levels of memory, focus and cognitive function, increased testosterone, less anxiety, greater self control, increased self confidence, increased vitality, improve your longevity and overall health, improved skin, thicker hair and beard, improved quality of sperm (higher quality children), deeper voice, and increased overall happiness.

With all these benefits if you have clear written specific goals and daily habits working towards these goals there's a higher probability you can achieve success and reach these goals no matter if it's in business, financial goals, physical goals, relationship goals, etc.

Believing that porn or masturbation is healthy is just a false excuse to enable your additctions that hold you back. It's like saying having alcohol sometimes can be good for you because it can be a stress relief or make you more sociable. You can find some positive aspects of any negative habit but the overall long term effect of these habits are contradictory to having a long, healthy life and reaching your goals.


Are there men that practice no fap or semen retention that end up failing because all they're thinking about is women on this quest yes and all of them will inevitably relapse because they have no purpose, or goals outside of chasing women and they're not practicing sexual transmutation. Semen retention is a great tool but it must be used properly and daily combined with sexual transmutation and having a purpose in life for the full posiitive benefits and to have it last for life.

I hope this helps you on your journey in life. You never know the true benefits of something unless you practice it without fail for a long period of time the correct way yourself instead of what other youtubers or other people tell you. We all only have one shot at life and for me I rather put things into action instead of just trusting youtubers or even studies. I can use them for ideas but I chose to implement things in my life to see for myself. Semen retention has been my foundation for improving my life drastically and that's why I believe in it.

 

[randomuser2407]

Porn and masturbation has a short term and long term negative effect on the body and mind that continues to compound over time.

Semen retention is the greatest tool men can use to win championships through sexual transmutation. Many men who've reached peak form and become the world's greatest athletes, philosophers, inventors, egnineers, etc used this method. Using different forms of yoga and qigong to help disperse the semen back into the body to receive all the positive benefits is something most men don't practice along with semen retention. This is why they stay hyper focused on sex and females while practicing semen retention. Also, they don't have goals or a purpose in life outside of getting women. You should have a purpose and goals and chase those things and the females will follow. Females wait for men at the end of the finish line.

using porn and masturbation in the short term even if sparingly has negative effects and little to no positive benefits. You're wasting your time, energy and life force which causes and earlier death. The only reason for the seed is to procreate if you drain it on worthless pictures on a screen or in a sock then you're wasting your energy, time, and life.

Also, if you wish to increase your stamina in bed and still feel amazing orgasms (multiple per session) while not wasting a single drop of semen you can use edging. Edging allows you to jack hammer women for hours and you can have multiple orgasms but not lose a drop of semen because with practice you can hold the semen in. This allows you to receive all the benefits of semen retention while enjoying the pleasures of sex. I would still reccommend only doing this with a woman in a relationship and not just cucking yourself by watching porn or stroking your shit and wasting time.



In conclusion there are zero benefits to watching porn and masturbating outside of the temporary good feeling that ends up destroying you the more you do it and the longer you do it for. If one practices edging they can still have sex without losing a drop of semen and drastically improving one's sexual endurance. If one practices semen retention and sexual transmutation (with qigong and yoga) they receive many benefits including higher levels of memory, focus and cognitive function, increased testosterone, less anxiety, greater self control, increased self confidence, increased vitality, improve your longevity and overall health, improved skin, thicker hair and beard, improved quality of sperm (higher quality children), deeper voice, and increased overall happiness.

With all these benefits if you have clear written specific goals and daily habits working towards these goals there's a higher probability you can achieve success and reach these goals no matter if it's in business, financial goals, physical goals, relationship goals, etc.

Believing that porn or masturbation is healthy is just a false excuse to enable your additctions that hold you back. It's like saying having alcohol sometimes can be good for you because it can be a stress relief or make you more sociable. You can find some positive aspects of any negative habit but the overall long term effect of these habits are contradictory to having a long, healthy life and reaching your goals.


Are there men that practice no fap or semen retention that end up failing because all they're thinking about is women on this quest yes and all of them will inevitably relapse because they have no purpose, or goals outside of chasing women and they're not practicing sexual transmutation. Semen retention is a great tool but it must be used properly and daily combined with sexual transmutation and having a purpose in life for the full posiitive benefits and to have it last for life.

I hope this helps you on your journey in life. You never know the true benefits of something unless you practice it without fail for a long period of time the correct way yourself instead of what other youtubers or other people tell you. We all only have one shot at life and for me I rather put things into action instead of just trusting youtubers or even studies. I can use them for ideas but I chose to implement things in my life to see for myself. Semen retention has been my foundation for improving my life drastically and that's why I believe in it.

The thing is that I did do Nofap for 9 months and it didn't help me at all, it just made me sexually frustrated, desperate and needy for 3 months, and then my libido completely disappeared, and I stayed that way for a while, then I tried to edge to get it back, but eventually, I just couldn't control it anymore and I reached orgasm, which is normal.

The problem with Nofap is that you will wet the bed by jizzing in your boxers while you're sleeping and you'll never be sexually satisfied unless you have a nymphomaniac girlfriend who can keep up with your sex drive to keep you fully sexually satisfied at all times. Also, sexual satisfaction is extremely important because otherwise, you won't be able to focus on productive things like schoolwork or personal projects because you'll be extremely horny whenever you are sitting down, especially when you're alone.

Also, the Nofap community claims that porn makes you so sexually satisfied that you give up on approaching women just to jerk off to porn but this is actually false. Porn and masturbation lead to the fulfillment of your sexual needs, but it's not like you need to be horny when you meet a woman for the first time because you're not going to have sex on the same night anyways. Also, some guys think that doing Nofap will help with approaching women but the truth is that it will cloud your judgement, because instead of only talking to the women that you like, you will massively lower your standards, not just in looks but in personality and you will get laid faster but with women that you normally wouldn't like and when you bust a nut into those women, that is when you will start regretting it because it is a decision that you made based on sexual desire, not logic.

So, Nofap leads to relying on sexual urges for your decision making, which means you will think with your penis, so you will take a lot of bad decisions, some of which could lead to things that could hurt your future tremendously, like accidentally impregnating a woman that you don't like because you were horny, she told you she was on the pill and you believed her to get sexual satisfaction from her, then you are stuck with her for at least 18 years. Logically, you would think that you would be too smart to take such a bad decision but when you're horny, you're not thinking in a logical manner, especially if you've not had an orgasm for a very long period of time.

Honestly, in today's world, you shouldn't be horny 24/7, you should only restrict porn and masturbation if you have a girlfriend, so that you can have more sex, but if you're single, you should only restrict porn and masturbation when you have to go on a date. You should masturbate no more than 1-2 times per day as a young man and you should only do it when you get a strong urge, so that it is not for pleasure but to satisfy a need. The claims of sexual transmutation are not proven by any scientific studies, it is only pseudoscience created by dumb people who don't know anything about the subject and Nofap itself is the same, they do have some studies, but like all cults, they used cherry picked studies that don't show the full picture. Nofap isn't the only cult that I have seen, there are also the vegans, the flat earthers, the anti vaxxers and many others.

 

[randomuser2407]

I would say try semen retention because it can only improve your situation. For me, I've gone one year in going full monk mode and it improved my memory, focus, and testosterone (could be other things as well). In 2015 I had to reflect on myself to see that I had been wasting time pumping and dumping women, spending money on worthless things and going no where with my career (at least in terms of income)

Habbits I adopted:

1.) Semen retention
2.) Daily workouts
3.) Plant based diet
4.) Tracking calories and workouts
5.) reading
6.) Working on my career outlook and skills daily
7.) Investing/trading
8.) No debt
9.) Mewing and facial exercises daily

After all this I increased my net worth from -$10,000 to over 7 figures now by investing heavily in crypto in 2015 and 2020. I own my own off grid property and 2 rental properties with no loan. I make over six figures as a block chain developer that took me 6 months to learn the skill. I gained 37 lbs of muscle and lost 40 lbs of fat. I am more free than 99.9% of the people in this world as I can live in my off grid self sufficient home and no longer a require a job or business to sustain myself.

Next goals: I would like to start a family but after being introduced to the black pill and red pill I only see risks with women and I don't see how it will be possible to maintain a life long relationship and have a great family. This is where I struggle most but I don't think these boards are the answer for me. I will continue to improve myself daily and be positive but I don't think there is a right woman out there on this earth for me. I'm very protective of my resources and have little trust with females of our time.

Well I hope this helps you on your journey. The worst thing that happens by trying these positive happens is it only improves your life slightly. Good luck to you.

Like I said, Nofap's effects are placebo.
None of this counts as self improvement except for bodybuilding and investing.

Nofap, Vegan diet, reading, mewing and career outlook are all a waste of your time. You'd be far better off focusing on acquiring a thicker neck, learning new skills like a new musical intrument, a new language, a new dancing style, or getting a motorcycle.

For looksmaxxing, you could work on your skin, your hairstyle, your clothing style and get your teeth whitened.

For your career, you could go to college or learn a high paying skill that can get you a higher paying job.

And you could get more experience with women to become better with women, and you could work on expanding your network by making new friends and acquaintances, which would give you access to many events and opportunities for many different things.

All of those things count so much more as self improvement than Nofap, because Nofap doesn't achieve anything. Just because something is difficult to do doesn't mean it is worth doing, that is what you fail to realize. You are wasting your time by lying to yourself, you're not really pursuing true goals, except for bodybuilding, and that is only if you take it seriously.

 

[Deleted member 14274]

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The thing is that I did do Nofap for 9 months and it didn't help me at all, it just made me sexually frustrated, desperate and needy for 3 months, and then my libido completely disappeared, and I stayed that way for a while, then I tried to edge to get it back, but eventually, I just couldn't control it anymore and I reached orgasm, which is normal.

The problem with Nofap is that you will wet the bed by jizzing in your boxers while you're sleeping and you'll never be sexually satisfied unless you have a nymphomaniac girlfriend who can keep up with your sex drive to keep you fully sexually satisfied at all times. Also, sexual satisfaction is extremely important because otherwise, you won't be able to focus on productive things like schoolwork or personal projects because you'll be extremely horny whenever you are sitting down, especially when you're alone.

Also, the Nofap community claims that porn makes you so sexually satisfied that you give up on approaching women just to jerk off to porn but this is actually false. Porn and masturbation lead to the fulfillment of your sexual needs, but it's not like you need to be horny when you meet a woman for the first time because you're not going to have sex on the same night anyways. Also, some guys think that doing Nofap will help with approaching women but the truth is that it will cloud your judgement, because instead of only talking to the women that you like, you will massively lower your standards, not just in looks but in personality and you will get laid faster but with women that you normally wouldn't like and when you bust a nut into those women, that is when you will start regretting it because it is a decision that you made based on sexual desire, not logic.

So, Nofap leads to relying on sexual urges for your decision making, which means you will think with your penis, so you will take a lot of bad decisions, some of which could lead to things that could hurt your future tremendously, like accidentally impregnating a woman that you don't like because you were horny, she told you she was on the pill and you believed her to get sexual satisfaction from her, then you are stuck with her for at least 18 years. Logically, you would think that you would be too smart to take such a bad decision but when you're horny, you're not thinking in a logical manner, especially if you've not had an orgasm for a very long period of time.

Honestly, in today's world, you shouldn't be horny 24/7, you should only restrict porn and masturbation if you have a girlfriend, so that you can have more sex, but if you're single, you should only restrict porn and masturbation when you have to go on a date. You should masturbate no more than 1-2 times per day as a young man and you should only do it when you get a strong urge, so that it is not for pleasure but to satisfy a need. The claims of sexual transmutation are not proven by any scientific studies, it is only pseudoscience created by dumb people who don't know anything about the subject and Nofap itself is the same, they do have some studies, but like all cults, they used cherry picked studies that don't show the full picture. Nofap isn't the only cult that I have seen, there are also the vegans, the flat earthers, the anti vaxxers and many others.

you won’t have sex with a girl the night you meet her?? What? Dude just stop please...

 

[King Solomon]

Like I said, Nofap's effects are placebo.
None of this counts as self improvement except for bodybuilding and investing.

Nofap, Vegan diet, reading, mewing and career outlook are all a waste of your time. You'd be far better off focusing on acquiring a thicker neck, learning new skills like a new musical intrument, a new language, a new dancing style, or getting a motorcycle.

For looksmaxxing, you could work on your skin, your hairstyle, your clothing style and get your teeth whitened.

For your career, you could go to college or learn a high paying skill that can get you a higher paying job.

And you could get more experience with women to become better with women, and you could work on expanding your network by making new friends and acquaintances, which would give you access to many events and opportunities for many different things.

All of those things count so much more as self improvement than Nofap, because Nofap doesn't achieve anything. Just because something is difficult to do doesn't mean it is worth doing, that is what you fail to realize. You are wasting your time by lying to yourself, you're not really pursuing true goals, except for bodybuilding, and that is only if you take it seriously.

Semen retention has proven benefits short and long term

I hope you were joking but reading most definately is not a waste of time. If you were to read more you wouldn't be saying all these other things are a waste of time and you would be implementing them in your life. I used reading to improve my investing, survival skills, sales, tonality, body language, learn real history and not the lies we learn in high school. One should make it a habit to read books (self help, business, history, skills, etc) every single day at least 20-30 pages a day. This is what Warren Buffet, Bill Gates and many other successfull people do. Reading allows you to learn from others mistakes so it speeds up the learning proccess.

Mewing doesn't really have peer reviewed studies to prove the beneifts but it does have ocular evidence with videos and photographs on Dr. Mew's youtube channel with before and after photos.

There's massive literature on the health benefits and longevity benefits of a vegan diet (more specifically raw fruits and veggies with some nuts and seeds (organic whole foods)

Working on my neck has helped me grow a thicker neck. Outside of that I don't do combat sports or get into fights so there's really not much benefit except looking slightly more masculine.

Motorcycles are the surest way to an early death and a waste of time

Instruments are great and fun but will not dramatically improve one's life as the other things I've listed. I've mastered the Alsto Sax, piano and drums. I was in band for nine years and took private lessons for 5 years.

The things you listed are fine and dandy and very fun but a bigger neck really doesn't add much to my life outside of looking bigger and musical skills and dancing skills doesn't increase my wallet but it does increase my ability in those skills for sure. Now they can potentially attract females but it's easier to attract females with just being a 7 or 8/10 than it is being a highly skilled dancer or great with an instrument unless you have top 0.001% status due to that skill. The things I listed improve your focus, concentration, testosterone and increase your health and wealth.



Semen retention is a tool that enables you to achieve your goals because it makes you more of a man and you become the man you're supposed to become. Draining your life force every day or even every week is wasting your life, your health, your energy and your time. You'd be better off just staring at a wall for 30 minutes a day than cuckholding yourself with porn on the daily. It's literally one of the dumbest things a man can do with his time. I understand why men do it as they were blue pilled and told this is good and it feels good and realeases all the feel good cocktail hormones as well but it destroys you over time as a person and as a man. There's a reason you feel guilty and tired immediately after wasting your life force because it's literally draining you of everything you need to be a man. Do you not want to be the best man you can possibly be?

 

[randomuser2407]

Y

you won’t have sex with a girl the night you meet her?? What? Dude just stop please...

No, I was talking about how if you cold approach a woman during the day, you won't get a date with her the same night most of the time, because she won't be available on such short notice, and you need at least 1 date before you can bring her back to your place to have sex.

The true meaning of one night stand is when you meet a woman and have sex with her the same night you first meet her. If you do day game, you will meet the woman once to get her number, then you will go out for drinks 1-2 days later at night and then, if she likes you, you will bring her back to your place and have sex, since the entire thing doesn't happen on the same night, it is not a one night stand.

So, you can only have a one night stand if you're doing night game, not if you're doing day game because most women will need time to meet you and get to know you a bit before letting you have sex. At night, it's different because the women who are interested in having sex with you will have planned in advance to get laid that night so she won't need more time to get to know you, so it works because she expects it, while in day game, she doesn't expect you to talk to her. That is why night game is faster but more difficult and day game is longer but easier. Because of this, night game is best for guys who are already very experienced with women and who are looksmaxxed, while day game is best for guys who have little to no experience with women and who are not looksmaxxed but still attractive.

This is why I will only do day game at first and I will only try night game when I am looksmaxxed (thick neck, muscular ripped physique, and better style).

 

[randomuser2407]

Semen retention has proven benefits short and long term

I hope you were joking but reading most definately is not a waste of time. If you were to read more you wouldn't be saying all these other things are a waste of time and you would be implementing them in your life. I used reading to improve my investing, survival skills, sales, tonality, body language, learn real history and not the lies we learn in high school. One should make it a habbit to read books (self help, business, history, skills, etc) every single day at least 20-30 pages a day. This is what Warren Buffet, Bill Gates and many other successfull people do. Reading allows you to learn from others mistakes so it speeds up the learning proccess.

There's massive literature on the health benefits and longevity benefits of a vegan diet (more specifically raw fruits and veggies with some nuts and seeds (organic whole foods)

Working on my neck has helped me grow a thicker neck. Outside of that I don't do combat sports or get into fights so there's really not much benefit except looking slightly more masculine.

Motorcycles are the surest way to an early death and a waste of time

Instruments are great and fun but will not dramatically improve one's life as the other things I've listed. I've mastered the Alsto Sax, piano and drums. I was in band for nine years and took private lessons for 5 years.



Semen retention is a tool that enables you to achieve your goals because it makes you more of a man and you become the man you're supposed to become. Draining your life force every day or even every week is wasting your life, your health, your energy and your time. You'd be better off just staring at a wall for 30 minutes a day than cuckholding yourself with porn on the daily. It's literally one of the dumbest things a man can do with his time. I understand why men do it as they were blue pilled and told this is good and it feels good and realeases all the feel good cocktail hormones as well but it destroys you over time as a person and as a man. There's a reason you feel guilty and tired immediately after wasting your life force because it's literally draining you of everything you need to be a man. Do you not want to be a man?

This is you:

KNAWLEDGE !

 

[Deleted member 294]

I shit on Nofap.

It is only through the act of masturbation that you can achieve post nut clarity, you cannot get it anywhere else, so, if you don't jerk off and you have a high libido, you will become so sexually frustrated that you will think about sex 24/7, so you will never be able to be productive because you will always be too horny.

And if you do it for too long, you may reach a point where you lose your libido completely, so you become like an eunch and your testicles become pretty much useless at this point.

By the way, it's not wrong to have fetishes as long as they don't prevent you from living your life at the same time. Fetishes should either be kept as a fantasy in your head, or they should make the sex better, they should never become an obsession. Porn is not the reason why you develop fetishes, porn only allows you to discover what is already within you.

Also, some people make the mistake of believing that the fetish will be as pleasurable in real life as in their mind when in fact, most of the time, it isn't the case at all.

The reason why Nofap doesn't work is because even if you stop watching porn, you will still think of your fantasies in your head and you will have the urge to jerk off to that instead of the porn so the result will be the exact same.

Nofap is based on theories and the experiences of its users but what those people don't realize is that even if they had been raised in a very religious family which prevented them from using porn, they would still have developed the same fetishes because they were meant to have them. I know because the fetishes that I have today are the same as years before I started watching porn, so porn isn't what causes fetishes.

Also, Nofap's goal is to replace masturbation with real sex so instead of telling you to get into a relationship with a woman that you like or hooking up with women that you like, it tells you to become so thirsty that even the ugliest and fattest women will be attractive enough. So what ends up happening is that you have sex with an obese woman, and in the moment you get your first orgasm, that is when you get post nut clarity and realize that the woman you are with is much uglier than you thought and that is when you regret the experience.

Nofap doesn't make it easier to get laid, it just severely lowers your standards and makes you willing to have sex with all women, no matter how ugly/fat they are.


TL;DR : Porn + Masturbation = Post Nut Clarity | Nofap = Thirst which blinds you and makes you make bad decisions.

You are exaggerating, to be honest. It depends on the person. I've been doing no-fap for 2 years with various streaks. The benefits outweigh any con you can come up with. After a while, your brain stabilizes and you stop thinking about sex all the time and you can use the energy to improve your life. You do become more sensitive I admit and will cum within 1 minute if you have sex again. But that is no problem since you can go multiple rounds. You will also get a hard-on if a woman is being mildly flirtatious or almost cum in your pants when you french kiss. But I like that natural high from a real woman better than from a screen. Also personally I haven't noticed being attracted to pigs, on the contrary, I'm becoming more repulsed by them and my standards got up. Also, skin starts to look great on no-fap, try for 4 weeks and look in the mirror, physical proof, you got nothing to lose.

 

[randomuser2407]

You are exaggerating, to be honest. It depends on the person. I've been doing no-fap for 2 years with various streaks. The benefits outweigh any con you can come up with. After a while, your brain stabilizes and you stop thinking about sex all the time and you can use the energy to improve your life. You do become more sensitive I admit and will cum within 1 minute if you have sex again. But that is no problem since you can go multiple rounds. You will also get a hard-on if a woman is being mildly flirtatious. But I like that natural high from a real woman better than from a screen.

The main point I was trying to make is that doing Nofap isn't a fix all solution for your looksmaxxing goals. Any obsession that you have that does not align with true self improvement for getting laid will be a complete waste of time.

If you are able to do Nofap without getting obsessed with getting laid or your obsession doesn't prevent you from studying for school and it doesn't prevent you from sleeping to recover from your workouts, and if Nofap motivates you to work harder on your goals, then definitely keep doing it, but for those of us who become sexually frustrated, desperate, needy and lazy without daily sexual satisfaction, Nofap will be detrimental.

Do what works for you, if Nofap helps you then good for you, but in my case, it has never helped me, it has only caused me problems and I have wasted many years already so I can't fail now, so I'm not willing to risk it because a stranger online told me that porn is bad.

Also, masturbating to porn is not the reason why I am a 23 year old virgin, it's because I haven't had many opportunities with women and my self confidence isn't very high because I live with my parents, I have 6 years of school to do before being able to move out, I have a skinny body with a pencil neck, I have problems with my skin, I have weak cardiovascular endurance and weak strength, I have very few friends, I don't go out often and I have trouble finding places to meet women in my area so my opportunities with women are limited mostly to school, malls, and random encounters, and because my life is such a mess, I am shy when talking to women because I have no personal successes to use as a confidence boost.

That is why, what I preach the most is to focus on yourself until you reach a point where you are so proud of your personal achievements that talking to women becomes so easy because you now have more to offer than your body and mind. I am not saying that I need to be perfect, but I should have my life together before I can really focus on sex and that is going to take a long time, and it's not going to be easy. If I had started in 2015, I would already have reached my goals years ago but I didn't have anyone to teach me those things. My parents wanted me to focus on school but they never taught me how to really improve myself, I had to learn it all by myself through the black pill and the red pill. The problem with Nofap is that for many men (especially me), it can distract them from their goals and make them focus too much on getting laid, which is a bad thing if you don't have your life together. The red pill is so right about the fact that when you have your life together, it is easy to get laid because many women want you and you can get approached because you are going to be successful at so many things and so confident and happy that people will want to be around you. Nofap can never achieve this, only true self improvement can.

 

[King Solomon]

watching porn is fine as long as it’s vanilla and not depraved and you don’t develop a dependence on it. The only time where it’s a good idea to stop watching porn is if you’re in a relationship because sex should be enough to suffice, either that or you need a new gf who gives you some. Or you can slay if that’s your preferred method

nofap is dumb normie redpill shit, “I have no luck with women and have no success in life, I could blame my general apathy towards life and lack of drive, instead let me blame videos of girls getting filled with semen that I crank my meat to a few minutes per day”. It’s some sort of way for failures to project the reason for lack of achievement and appeal on something external and it’s sad as fuck

being a coomer is also obviously bad but most people just watch some porn every now and then. If you have no urge to watch porn and aren’t slaying or in a relationship then your libido has issues

Good good, just do crack every once in a while it doesn't hurt that much as long as you don't become dependent on it. This is cope for people who don't think they can improve their situations in life.

 

[Deleted member 294]

The main point I was trying to make is that doing Nofap isn't a fix all solution for your looksmaxxing goals. Any obsession that you have that does not align with true self improvement for getting laid will be a complete waste of time.

If you are able to do Nofap without getting obsessed with getting laid or your obsession doesn't prevent you from studying for school and it doesn't prevent you from sleeping to recover from your workouts, and if Nofap motivates you to work harder on your goals, then definitely keep doing it, but for those of us who become sexually frustrated, desperate, needy and lazy without daily sexual satisfaction, Nofap will be detrimental.

Do what works for you, if Nofap helps you then good for you, but in my case, it has never helped me, it has only caused me problems and I have wasted many years already so I can't fail now, so I'm not willing to risk it because a stranger online told me that porn is bad.

Also, masturbating to porn is not the reason why I am a 23 year old virgin, it's because I haven't had many opportunities with women and my self confidence isn't very high because I live with my parents, I have 6 years of school to do before being able to move out, I have a skinny body with a pencil neck, I have problems with my skin, I have weak cardiovascular endurance and weak strength, I have very few friends, I don't go out often and I have trouble finding places to meet women in my area so my opportunities with women are limited mostly to school, malls, and random encounters, and because my life is such a mess, I am shy when talking to women because I have no personal successes to use as a confidence boost.

That is why, what I preach the most is to focus on yourself until you reach a point where you are so proud of your personal achievements that talking to women becomes so easy because you now have more to offer than your body and mind. I am not saying that I need to be perfect, but I should have my life together before I can really focus on sex and that is going to take a long time, and it's not going to be easy. If I had started in 2015, I would already have reached my goals years ago but I didn't have anyone to teach me those things. My parents wanted me to focus on school but they never taught me how to really improve myself, I had to learn it all by myself through the black pill and the red pill. The problem with Nofap is that for many men (especially me), it can distract them from their goals and make them focus too much on getting laid, which is a bad thing if you don't have your life together. The red pill is so right about the fact that when you have your life together, it is easy to get laid because many women want you and you can get approached because you are going to be successful at so many things and so confident and happy that people will want to be around you. Nofap can never achieve this, only true self improvement can.

I hear you. I lived in my mom's basement at 25. I did no-fap for a year now I am 26 with my own place, independent and started a profitable business. And I have cultivated an aesthetic body through the gym and the energy no-fap provided. 1 year ago I looked and behaved like a bum. I was addicted to cigarettes but didn't have cash to buy so I picked up buds from the ground to smoke them. Now I am the opposite of that.

Of course, it takes massive action to completely turn around your life and no-fap doesn't fix anything. You are the one that fixes your life. No-fap is merely a buff like those in video games. However, it is one of the most powerful buffs I have encountered with 0 severe side effects. I've tried everything from reading to Adderall nothing beats no-fap. It is a good buff to have that will HELP fix your life, it won't fix your life but it will HELP fix it like a buff.

Try for 4 weeks to see if it is something for you. You won't be wasting time I promise you, you will even have more time since masturbating is a useless activity that costs time. Even animals don't masturbate or have as much sex as humans do it is unnatural (only animals in captivity masturbate like apes).

No-fap also makes you more attractive. It is a no-brainer. I don't see why you guys are so against it. Since this website is about looksmaxxing. Voice before no-fap: Voice after no-fap: Shit works not only on voice but on your skin, hair, eyes, everything. You will glow. The benefits are word for word as those of TRT. You can compare yourself.

No-fap works universally for men since it utilizes our most common physiological mechanisms(Unless your T level is severely low then see a doctor). Feeling deprived is another issue that you have to work on internally.

 

[Biiyo03]

Like I said, Nofap's effects are placebo.
None of this counts as self improvement except for bodybuilding and investing.

Nofap, Vegan diet, reading, mewing and career outlook are all a waste of your time. You'd be far better off focusing on acquiring a thicker neck, learning new skills like a new musical intrument, a new language, a new dancing style, or getting a motorcycle.

For looksmaxxing, you could work on your skin, your hairstyle, your clothing style and get your teeth whitened.

For your career, you could go to college or learn a high paying skill that can get you a higher paying job.

And you could get more experience with women to become better with women, and you could work on expanding your network by making new friends and acquaintances, which would give you access to many events and opportunities for many different things.

All of those things count so much more as self improvement than Nofap, because Nofap doesn't achieve anything. Just because something is difficult to do doesn't mean it is worth doing, that is what you fail to realize. You are wasting your time by lying to yourself, you're not really pursuing true goals, except for bodybuilding, and that is only if you take it seriously.

Depends, you cant just say it's useless. Maybe to the normal guy but to people who are truly addicted to fapping (which is a thing) it is a very good thing to detox ur brain from fuckign the shit out of ur receptors.

I do think there's some overall benefits, more energy etc etc good for ur skin.

Idk if it helps with hair but if it does then hey ho