This 'John anthony' PUA expose is pretty good lol

[wristcel]

Dude just hires hookers to act as targets so his students can get laid and think it must be the lines john anthony taught them
Gets his own sex for sugar babes
lawsuits. Cringy infields. It's all funny stuff

 

[metagross]

I can't watch Cringe stuff like this. Also it's way too long. I will not watch 2 hours of this cringy stuff

 

[Deleted member 9666]

Didn’t this guy catch a rape charge lmao

 

[Deleted member 7098]

you've clearly been around the block when it comes to pua stuff, what is legit and what isn't? what's a good place to learn legit, non-staged stuff?

 

[wristcel]

you've clearly been around the block when it comes to pua stuff, what is legit and what isn't? what's a good place to learn legit, non-staged stuff?

All of my lays (bar like 2) have been from cold approach.

All 'game' is really just the icing on the cake. You can't 'seduce' a girl who doesn't want to be seduced by you. It's there to help you not fuck up with the girls that are already somewhat attracted to you mainly, and of course having a good vibe and stuff always helps


Unsurprisingly, the ones who actually get good results are simply leveraging good looks and/or location/status. You can never get away from that really

I hate recommending these scammer but some are more 'legit' than others. @eduardkoopman is also a coldapproachcel like me lol

 

[Deleted member 7098]

All of my lays (bar like 2) have been from cold approach.

All 'game' is really just the icing on the cake. You can't 'seduce' a girl who doesn't want to be seduced by you. It's there to help you not fuck up with the girls that are already somewhat attracted to you mainly, and of course having a good vibe and stuff always helps


Unsurprisingly, the ones who actually get good results are simply leveraging good looks and/or location/status. You can never get away from that really

I hate recommending these scammer but some are more 'legit' than others. @eduardkoopman is also a coldapproachcel like me lol

he's also a very insightful fellow oldcel, recommended me Jack Denmo,

Of course I know that I have to be somewhat attractive to the girls, but i've run into girls that showed clear interested in me on which I couldn't make use of because i got nervous and didn't know what to say, the hardest part for me is closing, going from making her laugh and getting touchy to going home with her/making out

 

[eduardkoopman]

you've clearly been around the block when it comes to pua stuff, what is legit and what isn't?

what's a good place to learn legit, non-staged stuff?

Only good pua coach content I recall.
Paul Janka. (USA suitable, and daytime related content).
60 years of challenge (Europe suitable, nightlife)
Aron sleazy (Europe suitable, nightlife).

My pua content journey stopped before or in 2010. So above was up to date till 2010. After that I dunno about the new pua coaches.

 

[eduardkoopman]

he's also a very insightful fellow oldcel, recommended me Jack Denmo,

Jack denmo is funny and witty as hell.
You need good convo skill, to be as funny and jester as he is.

Of course I know that I have to be somewhat attractive to the girls, but i've run into girls that showed clear interested in me on which I couldn't make use of because i got nervous and didn't know what to say, the hardest part for me is closing, going from making her laugh and getting touchy to going home with her/making out

Usually makeing up a reason, to invite her to come to your place is enough. WHEN she decided she wants to screw you. If she decided she doesn't wanna screw you yet, than she may not want to come along home, or if she does she will put on the brakes.

 

[Pumanator]

I don't know who is legit and who is not. They all flame each other. Fresh and fit had a fake infield and even with a hired model it was cringe asf. Rollo tomassi claims in his book his laycount is like 30. Amnesia got way higher. Rsd tyler was virgin till like 28 and he was into game for years.
Rich Cooper prob also doesn't had that high laycount.

Personally the only 2 puas I think are some kind of real is John Anthony and playing with fire.
I also think Andrew tate and Austin dunham are the only real redpiller slayer. Andrew tate is multi miljonair and status maxed als ex world champion boxing and Austin Dunham is model tier looking. He prob doesn't even have game from the vlogs I see. He is just cold.

 

[eduardkoopman]

I don't know who is legit and who is not. They all flame each other. Fresh and fit had a fake infield and even with a hired model it was cringe asf. Rollo tomassi claims in his book his laycount is like 30. Amnesia got way higher. Rsd tyler was virgin till like 28 and he was into game for years.
Rich Cooper prob also doesn't had that high laycount.

Personally the only 2 puas I think are some kind of real is John Anthony and playing with fire.
I also think Andrew tate and Austin dunham are the only real redpiller slayer. Andrew tate is multi miljonair and status maxed als ex world champion boxing and Austin Dunham is model tier looking. He prob doesn't even have game from the vlogs I see. He is just cold.

I think. If one tries to get some information from a dating coach dude.
Don't just focus on their laycount, because the way they get it is more important. If some tall white guy goes live in Thailand or Colombia with good money, and he lays alot. Firstly he location macxed. So if one isn't going to location maxx, I assume his advice is worthless.
Also, Don't copy dating style, of someone that leads with money, if you are not wanting or able to lead with money/betabuxx.
Also, can't copy dating style. When that dude is an Amnesia Chad, and you are just a normie.

Point being.
Pitch dating advice and style. From someone:
Similar looks level.
Similar location in the world.
Similar money (or if he richer, but doesn't show it).
Similar status.

I as a normie white guy in Netherlands.
Would sooner take dating style advice from a Normie white guy in Europe with 25 laycount.

Than a guy with 100+ lays that is:
* Location maxxing, running jbw.
* Chad looks
* Leading with his millions/money
* Has a lot of status

Basically.
Similar location. And similar LMS

 

[wristcel]

I don't know who is legit and who is not. They all flame each other. Fresh and fit had a fake infield and even with a hired model it was cringe asf. Rollo tomassi claims in his book his laycount is like 30. Amnesia got way higher. Rsd tyler was virgin till like 28 and he was into game for years.
Rich Cooper prob also doesn't had that high laycount.

Personally the only 2 puas I think are some kind of real is John Anthony and playing with fire.
I also think Andrew tate and Austin dunham are the only real redpiller slayer. Andrew tate is multi miljonair and status maxed als ex world champion boxing and Austin Dunham is model tier looking. He prob doesn't even have game from the vlogs I see. He is just cold.

john anthony is one of the least legit in my eyes.
I'd say he got laid some as a result of playing extreme numbers game on average looking girls, in a party city like Vegas, and the fact he's like 6'4'' and stuff doesn't harm (he was in better shape back then too)
His lay claims are pure fiction (of course! 1500 lmao) and in terms of 'game' he has like none. I don't know if you've seen his infields from his premium products but I have.

His 'method' is literally a way to get girls to come to your party (say hi, tell her he's a dj, ask her if she likes grey goose, tell her it's his friends Bday and there's an after party, invite her and her friends back, end the infield and claim it as a ''pull''/lay). IN most cases the girl looks to have literally zero attraction and there's no flirting, but since he can get her to agree to come too a party it goes down on his 'lay count' lol

He was exposed to be using hookers and sugar babies and stuff (leaked messages from his ex busienss partner) and then went to Brazil or some shit to run white guy game.

There are a few guys who i'd say have fairly decent 'game', but as I say before, their actual results are of course always gonna be governed by LMS rules. People like Austin Summers, coach Kyle and a few of the guys from ultimate man project. My opinion at least. Paul Janka back in the day

 

[Pumanator]

john anthony is one of the least legit in my eyes.
I'd say he got laid some as a result of playing extreme numbers game on average looking girls, in a party city like Vegas, and the fact he's like 6'4'' and stuff doesn't harm (he was in better shape back then too)
His lay claims are pure fiction (of course! 1500 lmao) and in terms of 'game' he has like none. I don't know if you've seen his infields from his premium products but I have.

His 'method' is literally a way to get girls to come to your party (say hi, tell her he's a dj, ask her if she likes grey goose, tell her it's his friends Bday and there's an after party, invite her and her friends back, end the infield and claim it as a ''pull''/lay). IN most cases the girl looks to have literally zero attraction and there's no flirting, but since he can get her to agree to come too a party it goes down on his 'lay count' lol

He was exposed to be using hookers and sugar babies and stuff (leaked messages from his ex busienss partner) and then went to Brazil or some shit to run white guy game.

There are a few guys who i'd say have fairly decent 'game', but as I say before, their actual results are of course always gonna be governed by LMS rules. People like Austin Summers, coach Kyle and a few of the guys from ultimate man project. My opinion at least. Paul Janka back in the day

Can you post the link where his ex busniss partner exposes him? The youtube video is down for me.

 

[BigBiceps]

Hires hookers to cheat students of their money? Literally what every PUA does tbh.

 

[RODEBLUR]

Dude just hires hookers to act as targets so his students can get laid and think it must be the lines john anthony taught them
Gets his own sex for sugar babes
lawsuits. Cringy infields. It's all funny stuff

just cage tbh

 

[wristcel]

Can you post the link where his ex busniss partner exposes him? The youtube video is down for me.

it's down for everyone. I imagine john anthony filed all kinds of complaints against the uploader. Copyright etc. There's been many embarrasing vids of him that he tried to get taken down too lol.

I've seen the texts back when it happened although not sure of where to see them again. I'm sure John would have made sonny delete them or whatever. Not sure how they resolved it but sonny exposed him, and I think shortly after he dropped it all. They were basically just texts from john to some sort of sugar babe and he was haggling on prices and stuff lol. I think there were some other stuff too that didn't look great for some stud who's apparently banging almost any girl he wants using his 'game' lol

Surprised even this hasn't been taken down lol





As I said before, even in his paid for/premium product, it's usually essentially just him trying to get girls to come to his apartment down the road for a party, and he calls it a 'pull'/lay. This guy seems to be onto him

 

[Deleted member 7098]

I think. If one tries to get some information from a dating coach dude.
Don't just focus on their laycount, because the way they get it is more important. If some tall white guy goes live in Thailand or Colombia with good money, and he lays alot. Firstly he location macxed. So if one isn't going to location maxx, I assume his advice is worthless.
Also, Don't copy dating style, of someone that leads with money, if you are not wanting or able to lead with money/betabuxx.
Also, can't copy dating style. When that dude is an Amnesia Chad, and you are just a normie.

Point being.
Pitch dating advice and style. From someone:
Similar looks level.
Similar location in the world.
Similar money (or if he richer, but doesn't show it).
Similar status.

I as a normie white guy in Netherlands.
Would sooner take dating style advice from a Normie white guy in Europe with 25 laycount.

Than a guy with 100+ lays that is:
* Location maxxing, running jbw.
* Chad looks
* Leading with his millions/money
* Has a lot of status

Basically.
Similar location. And similar LMS

excellent points, that's why i find it hard to approach the same typ of girls and with the same lines as e.g. Paul Janka

those chad PUAs are just in a completely different league than me and have so much more lea-way for error or being too pushy, their stuff isn't applicable 1:1 for a normal-looking dude
that's him:

meanwhile celebretiy-look-a-like says i look like Raj

 

[eduardkoopman]

excellent points, that's why i find it hard to approach the same typ of girls and with the same lines as e.g. Paul Janka

Paul Janka has good base conecpt imo.
But, yeah he Chadlite. and was USA.
so, in USA it's easy to be soical in day time.
plus he suggested, to make a small convo of 2-3 minutes than get her number, and text later. Now, that will result in ALOT OF FLAKES, when you are not a Chadlite like his. Because women will remember, that Chadlite dude that she talked with on street. But when you are just another normie like all the others, she will not be moticated much if at all after 3 minutes convo to se you again. So for a nromie guy, imo, it's better to try to fish for a bit longer initial meetup if possible, so youcan maybe work in a motivation/reason for her to wanna see you again, when you are th type of guy that JUST made her minimum looks requirement but you are ntoheing sepcial nromie in looks basically.

those chad PUAs are just in a completely different league than me

yeah by default, if when one is nt a chad

and have so much more lea-way for error or being too pushy, their stuff isn't applicable 1:1 for a normal-looking dude
that's him:
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brutals.
honestly. talking wth randoms as a normie, is epic brutals. need to be kinda HTN minimum or better for it. For a normie, these super slow social circles type of way, and maybe clubs/bars nightlife when you have a good body frame are maybe the way to go. But as a nromie, slaying, I can't see. with exception of whits running jbw in some place like Phillipines.

 

[eduardkoopman]

meanwhile celebretiy-look-a-like says i look like Raj
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So, any legit ethics on your level and smae-ish location in worlds; out there? Whome have good dating structure concepts, that is not scam?

 

[Deleted member 7098]

So, any legit ethics on your level and smae-ish location in worlds; out there? Whome have good dating structure concepts, that is not scam?

Not really sure, i don’t really know an ethic big slayer, but i only have white friends, so maybe that’s why. And even i get decent results if i don‘t end up pussying out, you‘ve seen me, i‘d say 5-6/10 max but kind of good social circle and being in uni also helps a lot

 

[Deleted member 7098]

So, any legit ethics on your level and smae-ish location in worlds; out there? Whome have good dating structure concepts, that is not scam?

Think i did misread the question the first time, i barely know any PUAs so, not sure if there are legit slightly ethnic looking normies with normal height out there

 

[NECK&VOICE]

Please reupload removed video

 

[wristcel]

Please reupload removed video

every time someone exposes JA, JA gets the videos removed and makes legal threats and throws all his toys out of the pram so the uploaded removes the vids. That vid is now 'private' unfortunately

There's been loads of them. I think I saved one on my old PC because it was so funny (just john getting rejected a tonne and then creeping out girls asking if he can touch their ass and thinking saying that makes him some sort of pimp, and then getting drunk and making a fool of himself). Was super embarrassing for a wannabe 'ladies man' lol

 

[hypernormie]

I don't know who is legit and who is not. They all flame each other. Fresh and fit had a fake infield and even with a hired model it was cringe asf. Rollo tomassi claims in his book his laycount is like 30. Amnesia got way higher. Rsd tyler was virgin till like 28 and he was into game for years.
Rich Cooper prob also doesn't had that high laycount.

Personally the only 2 puas I think are some kind of real is John Anthony and playing with fire.
I also think Andrew tate and Austin dunham are the only real redpiller slayer. Andrew tate is multi miljonair and status maxed als ex world champion boxing and Austin Dunham is model tier looking. He prob doesn't even have game from the vlogs I see. He is just cold.

Old RSD used to be peak

Tyler’s old inner game videos were some of the best the internet has ever seen and at least they used to put out some solid infields

Alex playing with fire has a good video critiquing an old infield of Tyler’s that shows how good he was

 

[NECK&VOICE]

WHERE IS THE FUCKING VIDEO

 

[NECK&VOICE]

every time someone exposes JA, JA gets the videos removed and makes legal threats and throws all his toys out of the pram so the uploaded removes the vids. That vid is now 'private' unfortunately

WHERE IS VIDEO. WHO CARES ABOUT "MUH THREATS" LOW INHIB BETA FUCK, GIVE VIDEO, I NEED TO SEE ACTUAL TRUTH

 

[NECK&VOICE]

Tyler RSD peak cringe. Thats not how normal guys behave, that snot how pussy slayers behave. No footage of Tyler banging chicks, no receipts.