This video is making me go vegan

[RecessedChinCel]

Insanely brutal. The more I read about veganism the more I realize they are ethically correct. Additionally animal agriculture just isn’t sustainable and has a horrible impact on the climate, is a major cause of deforestation, and most importantly causes incomprehensible amounts of suffering.

Humans slaughter 80 BILLION land animals every year for food, and 10 BILLION in the United States alone. The overwhelming majority of which is from factory farms like in the video above. These types of practices are the norm not the exception.

Man they literally breed these animals into existence just for them to grow up in automated farms to be abused for their bodies.

Female cows must be artificially inseminated with bull semen in order to impregnate them so they secrete milk. Cows only produce milk when they are having children so they must be impregnated over and over again. When a calf is born if male they slaughter it and make veal. If a female they will grow up to be dairy cows and exploited in the same way for milk.

Once dairy cows are too old/no longer can produce milk they are slaughtered for meat. I personally can not morally justify eating animal products anymore. The creatures we exploit are innocent it’s just wrong man.

 

[Entschuldigung]

City boy
You never saw someone killing animals irl? It is what it is
The world is not Disneyland

 

[ilovetakis]

But burgers taste so good

 

[RecessedChinCel]

City boy
You never saw someone killing animals irl? It is what it is
The world is not Disneyland

83% of U.S. agriculture is to feed land animals which we then slaughter for food.

There is no Disneyland bro. Do you really think factory farming and feeding billions of animals for slaughter every year is environmentally sustainable?

 

[RecessedChinCel]

You never saw someone killing animals irl? It is what it is

Over 90% of people do not “kill irl” they get their animal products from the grocery store jfl. It is a supply and demand chain.

 

[Deleted member 65414]

Shut up and eat meat you estrogen maxer

 

[RecessedChinCel]

Shut up and eat meat you estrogen maxer

I like meat but do not feel comfortable supporting these industries. There is a difference between a hunter gatherer hunting meat out of necessity, and industrialized torture and suffering.

 

[Lefty Rankin]

Fuck you

Insanely brutal. The more I read about veganism the more I realize they are ethically correct. Additionally animal agriculture just isn’t sustainable and has a horrible impact on the climate, is a major cause of deforestation, and most importantly causes incomprehensible amounts of suffering.

Humans slaughter 80 BILLION land animals every year for food, and 10 BILLION in the United States alone. The overwhelming majority of which is from factory farms like in the video above. These types of practices are the norm not the exception.

Man they literally breed these animals into existence just for them to grow up in automated farms to be abused for their bodies.

Female cows must be artificially inseminated with bull semen in order to impregnate them so they secrete milk. Cows only produce milk when they are having children so they must be impregnated over and over again. When a calf is born if male they slaughter it and make veal. If a female they will grow up to be dairy cows and exploited in the same way for milk.

Once dairy cows are too old/no longer can produce milk they are slaughtered for meat. I personally can not morally justify eating animal products anymore. The creatures we exploit are innocent it’s just wrong man.

Fuck veganism. Sign me up for a job like this. I'll put the things to death and eat a big old steak right afterwards. I simply don't care.

Animal suffering is worth it so we can have meat. Shit, even if meat was without nutrition and only for mere pleasure, like tobacco or some shit, I'd gladly see 80 billion animals slaughtered every year just so we could have it. Put a bolt right through their skulls while the ones directly behind shit all over the place fully understanding what's happening and that they're next, lol.

 

[RecessedChinCel]

Fuck you

Fuck veganism. Sign me up for a job like this. I'll put the things to death and eat a big old steak right afterwards. I simply don't care.

Animal suffering is worth it so we can have meat. Shit, even if meat was without nutrition and only for mere pleasure, like tobacco or some shit, I'd gladly see 80 billion animals slaughtered every year just so we could have it. Put a bolt right through their skulls while the ones directly behind shit all over the place fully understanding what's happening and that they're next, lol.

Ok bro. Ultimately you have autonomy over your own choices. I’m just sharing

 

[Entschuldigung]

83% of U.S. agriculture is to feed land animals which we then slaughter for food.

There is no Disneyland bro. Do you really think factory farming and feeding billions of animals for slaughter every year is environmentally sustainable?

Humans do that to earth
That's it

 

[Lefty Rankin]

Ok bro. Ultimately you have autonomy over your own choices. I’m just sharing

Ok then. I'm sorry for saying "Fuck you". I shouldn't have said that.

 

[Deleted member 65414]

I like meat but do not feel comfortable supporting these industries. There is a difference between a hunter gatherer hunting meat out of necessity, and industrialized torture and suffering.

Ohhh yes I understand then you should get meat from places that actually let the animals have good lives before they die and with eggs too and everything you eat make sure that the animals have good lives eat pasture raised products they eat high quality food and live good lives

 

[RecessedChinCel]

Ohhh yes I understand then you should get meat from places that actually let the animals have good lives before they die and with eggs too and everything you eat make sure that the animals have good lives eat pasture raised products they eat high quality food and live good lives

The animals the overwhelming majority of people eat don’t have these “good lives” you speak of.

There are 8 Billion ~ people on this planet and they ALL want to eat animal products. U.S. Americans eat it 3 times a day breakfast, lunch, and dinner. The truth is that it just isn’t sustainable on a large scale for animals to have a “good life” before they are killed. The inevitable conclusion to our demand for animal products is factory farming, which will always have suffering.

Also in U.S. at least we kill animals prematurely when they are young because Americans prefer the taste and texture. It is not profitable for the animals to have “good lives”. Cattle are slaughterd on average at only 2-4 years old. They are killing 3 year olds man there isn’t a morally right way to do it when it is not required for survival imo.

 

[Never Get Up]

Low T trait

 

[RecessedChinCel]

Low T trait

Over. I haven’t even become vegan yet and I’m already getting the soy insults jfl

 

[cromagnon]

nah fuck those niggers

 

[Lethbridge]

Yeah the meat industry is really incredibly brutal and exists in a scale incomprehensibly large to us.

The vegans are right about everything imo, the entire industry is mechanized brutality on an incredibly unnatural scale.

but it's a hard pill to swallow, and I think most people (me included) are just selfish and would rather try to forget about it than make any real change in their life

 

[Lethbridge]

oh fuck this video is heartbreaking its so sad to watch

 

[Never Get Up]

Over. I haven’t even become vegan yet and I’m already getting the soy insults jfl

The fact that you even thought of it

 

[RecessedChinCel]

oh fuck this video is heartbreaking its so sad to watch

Yeah man I myself tried to rationalize why eating animal products isn’t bad. I purposely looked for biased sources that reinforced my world view. But they are right man.

We aren’t hunter gatherers who need animals for quick nutrient dense food. We sit on our asses all day and watch OTHER people play sports jfl. While we eat an animal we ourself never had to kill, but rather a mechanized machine did it on our behalf.

Those poor babies suffer man it’s horrible. I think it’s hard for people because we derive so much pleasure from the exploitation of these innocent creatures. They’ve literally been bred to be as docile and controllable as possible. They are genetically destined to end up on your plate. Aint that a blackpill?

 

[Deleted member 72684]

Insanely brutal. The more I read about veganism the more I realize they are ethically correct. Additionally animal agriculture just isn’t sustainable and has a horrible impact on the climate, is a major cause of deforestation, and most importantly causes incomprehensible amounts of suffering.

Humans slaughter 80 BILLION land animals every year for food, and 10 BILLION in the United States alone. The overwhelming majority of which is from factory farms like in the video above. These types of practices are the norm not the exception.

Man they literally breed these animals into existence just for them to grow up in automated farms to be abused for their bodies.

Female cows must be artificially inseminated with bull semen in order to impregnate them so they secrete milk. Cows only produce milk when they are having children so they must be impregnated over and over again. When a calf is born if male they slaughter it and make veal. If a female they will grow up to be dairy cows and exploited in the same way for milk.

Once dairy cows are too old/no longer can produce milk they are slaughtered for meat. I personally can not morally justify eating animal products anymore. The creatures we exploit are innocent it’s just wrong man.

Horrible but being vegan and eating vegan food is worse for the environment, still a lose lose situation for anyone who's not eating the meat (I love eating it sadly)

 

[Deleted member 72684]

Insanely brutal. The more I read about veganism the more I realize they are ethically correct. Additionally animal agriculture just isn’t sustainable and has a horrible impact on the climate, is a major cause of deforestation, and most importantly causes incomprehensible amounts of suffering.

Humans slaughter 80 BILLION land animals every year for food, and 10 BILLION in the United States alone. The overwhelming majority of which is from factory farms like in the video above. These types of practices are the norm not the exception.

Man they literally breed these animals into existence just for them to grow up in automated farms to be abused for their bodies.

Female cows must be artificially inseminated with bull semen in order to impregnate them so they secrete milk. Cows only produce milk when they are having children so they must be impregnated over and over again. When a calf is born if male they slaughter it and make veal. If a female they will grow up to be dairy cows and exploited in the same way for milk.

Once dairy cows are too old/no longer can produce milk they are slaughtered for meat. I personally can not morally justify eating animal products anymore. The creatures we exploit are innocent it’s just wrong man.

Poor animals mang, I just want to start a farm and kill them humanely if I even chose to eat them

 

[Deleted member 72684]

If you look at this picture and don't feel bad you are soulless

 

[RecessedChinCel]

being vegan and eating vegan food is worse for the environment

Where is the evidence for this claim? The overwhelming majority of crops grown in America are fed to livestock. Grassfed beef is IRC the #3 cause of deforestation.

Do u actually think it is more sustainable to feed animals crops, raise them up, and then kill them, than to just eat the crops yourself?

 

[Deleted member 72684]

Where is the evidence for this claim? The overwhelming majority of crops grown in America are fed to livestock. Grassfed beef is IRC the #3 cause of deforestation.

Do u actually think it is more sustainable to feed animals crops, raise them up, and then kill them, than to just eat the crops yourself?

Eating just plants is alright but I mean the vegan products that are made in factories

 

[RecessedChinCel]

Eating just plants is alright but I mean the vegan products that are made in factories

I’m not informed on the environmental impact of mock meats. Maybe you’re right.

 

[Lethbridge]

Where is the evidence for this claim? The overwhelming majority of crops grown in America are fed to livestock. Grassfed beef is IRC the #3 cause of deforestation.

Do u actually think it is more sustainable to feed animals crops, raise them up, and then kill them, than to just eat the crops yourself?

I haven't done enough research to speak to the validity of these claims, but people say its because you'd need to create a huge monoculture agriculture industry to grow enough protein sources for people to eat, (because growing just soy beans has different impacts on the land than growing whatever else or smth idk) and since a lot of farm animals can eat harvest byproducts like straw, we're not actually growing as many plants for animals as you think.

Idk, intuitively I still feel like it should be possible though, and I'm sure there's people who've done the calculations you can look for.

I really hope lab grown meats develop soon. I refuse to eat bugs but I'd be happy to eat lab grown meat (i'm not a jew)

 

[Lethbridge]

I think shifting our diets to become more pescetarian and our societies to become more aquaculture reliant is probably a good middleground if we can actually figure out how to do it efficiently and sustainably. We could use the omega 3 anyways

 

[RecessedChinCel]

since a lot of animals like pigs eat harvest byproducts like straw, we don't actually grow as many plants for animals as you think.

This claim is usually stems from this study :

Spoiler

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/312201313_Livestock_On_our_plates_or_eating_at_our_table_A_new_analysis_of_the_feedfood_debate

The headline is that 86% of what we feed to animals isn’t edible. So people use that to say only 14% of the crops we grow are eaten by animals, however this is false. If you look at fig 2 you’ll notice that only 19% of what we feed animals are crop residues aka the part of the plants we can’t consume. So this is just misrepresentation of the data from bad actors.

 

[Lethbridge]

This claim is usually stems from this study :

Spoiler

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/312201313_Livestock_On_our_plates_or_eating_at_our_table_A_new_analysis_of_the_feedfood_debate

The headline is that 86% of what we feed to animals isn’t edible. So people use that to say only 14% of the crops we grow are eaten by animals, however this is false. If you look at fig 2 you’ll notice that only 19% of what we feed animals are crop residues aka the part of the plants we can’t consume. So this is just misrepresentation of the data from bad actors.

Only 19% is crop residues but most of the other segments seem to be also human inedible. Fodder crops & grain I take to be purpose-grown for feeding animals, while oil cakes are byproducts and grass does not compete with human harvest. So the actual % of feed coming from purpose grown harvests seems to be 22%, and the other 78% being human inedible crops.

Its a lot better than I thought actually, they do talk about feed conversion ratios as well which sounds like a lead but i don't really understand what they mean and don't feel like looking into it right now

i appreciate you actually linking a study, the portions I did read were very interesting

 

[TUSSELEIF]

Many pigs are boiled alive too because there’s so many of them it’s hard to keep count if they have killed them all or if something was missed with the slaughtering, so they are thrown in the boiling water not having been killed yet. The meat industry is incredibly brutal

 

[Deleted member 20399]

Fuck you

Fuck veganism. Sign me up for a job like this. I'll put the things to death and eat a big old steak right afterwards. I simply don't care.

Animal suffering is worth it so we can have meat. Shit, even if meat was without nutrition and only for mere pleasure, like tobacco or some shit, I'd gladly see 80 billion animals slaughtered every year just so we could have it. Put a bolt right through their skulls while the ones directly behind shit all over the place fully understanding what's happening and that they're next, lol.

You ugly little subhuman

 

[RecessedChinCel]

Only 19% is crop residues but most of the other segments seem to be also human inedible. Fodder crops & grain I take to be purpose-grown for feeding animals, while oil cakes are byproducts and grass does not compete with human harvest. So the actual % of feed coming from purpose grown harvests seems to be 22%, and the other 78% being human inedible crops.

Its a lot better than I thought actually, they do talk about feed conversion ratios as well which sounds like a lead but i don't really understand what they mean and don't feel like looking into it right now

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i appreciate you actually linking a study, the portions I did read were very interesting

We grow inedible crops to feed to the livestock. The same resources, soil, etc could be diverted away from animal feed to make edible crops.

Fodder crops (8%), grain (13%) and oil seed cakes (5%) total of 26%. Additionally, the largest category grass and leaves (46%) may seem like just animals eating their natural food or whatever, however this isn’t the case. This category includes crops like Hay which is a massive crop.

Another thing to take note is this study considered soybean cakes to be non-edible because it is processed into something for farm animals. The study noted that it could be processed for human consumption instead.

 

[Lethbridge]

We grow inedible crops to feed to the livestock. The same resources, soil, etc could be diverted away from animal feed to make edible crops.

Right but some soil can't be used to grow human-edible (or at least what we're willing to eat now) crops but can be used to feed animals. I think that's what the study is mainly aiming to calculate, how much of what we feed animals is grown on non-arable land like this or comes from byproducts, and how much is from purpose-grown crops which they describe as 'competing' with crops for human consumption (because they are growing them when they could otherwise be growing human crops).

Fodder crops (8%), grain (13%) and oil seed cakes (5%) total of 26%. Additionally, the largest category grass and leaves (46%) may seem like just animals eating their natural food or whatever, however this isn’t the case. This category includes crops like Hay which is a massive crop.

Hay I believe is included in fodder crops, the grass thing though did make me double check. They distinguish grass grown on arable and potentially arable land, so basically its all grassland but some of it could potentially be turned into farmland and others can't because of soil reasons.

Here's a table they give on ratios of each

Ratio seems good tbh, and i think actually its probably better that we are not turning more potentially arable grassland into farmland.

Another thing to take note is this study considered soybean cakes to be non-edible because it is processed into something for farm animals. The study noted that it could be processed for human consumption instead.

they classify oil seed cakes as being human inedible, so I assume they're actually byproducts made from the inedible parts of canola for example. I'm not sure why they're not classified as such. As you can see they classify it as non-competing, essentially they don't take away resources we could be using on our own crops.

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Another thing to take note is this study considered soybean cakes to be non-edible because it is processed into something for farm animals. The study noted that it could be processed for human consumption instead.

You are completely right on soy though actually, I missed it in the figures mb. They also say that the EFA > 66%, meaning we're actually growing soy primarily for the purpose of feeding animals instead of for other reasons, which was quite surprising to me.

 

[Deleted member 46941]

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[whiteislandpill]

Low T if you feel empathy towards animals. Thats just how the world works nigga the weak get slaughtered and the strong live on. Womp womp nigga

 

[framemoggerr]

dnr

 

[Deleted member 65414]

The animals the overwhelming majority of people eat don’t have these “good lives” you speak of.

There are 8 Billion ~ people on this planet and they ALL want to eat animal products. U.S. Americans eat it 3 times a day breakfast, lunch, and dinner. The truth is that it just isn’t sustainable on a large scale for animals to have a “good life” before they are killed. The inevitable conclusion to our demand for animal products is factory farming, which will always have suffering.

Also in U.S. at least we kill animals prematurely when they are young because Americans prefer the taste and texture. It is not profitable for the animals to have “good lives”. Cattle are slaughterd on average at only 2-4 years old. They are killing 3 year olds man there isn’t a morally right way to do it when it is not required for survival imo.

Yeah I know but there are ways to you just need to be willing to put the money in

 

[Deleted member 46507]

Insanely brutal. The more I read about veganism the more I realize they are ethically correct. Additionally animal agriculture just isn’t sustainable and has a horrible impact on the climate, is a major cause of deforestation, and most importantly causes incomprehensible amounts of suffering.

Humans slaughter 80 BILLION land animals every year for food, and 10 BILLION in the United States alone. The overwhelming majority of which is from factory farms like in the video above. These types of practices are the norm not the exception.

Man they literally breed these animals into existence just for them to grow up in automated farms to be abused for their bodies.

Female cows must be artificially inseminated with bull semen in order to impregnate them so they secrete milk. Cows only produce milk when they are having children so they must be impregnated over and over again. When a calf is born if male they slaughter it and make veal. If a female they will grow up to be dairy cows and exploited in the same way for milk.

Once dairy cows are too old/no longer can produce milk they are slaughtered for meat. I personally can not morally justify eating animal products anymore. The creatures we exploit are innocent it’s just wrong man.

womp womp i love meat

 

[RecessedChinCel]

Low T if you feel empathy towards animals. Thats just how the world works nigga the weak get slaughtered and the strong live on. Womp womp nigga

You aren’t strong ur an incel on looksmax.org. The animals you eat are bred into existence by industries that use machines to slaughter the animals for wagie bux lmao.

Your argument is fallacious (might is right, and appeal to nature fallacy)

You are the consoomer and they supply the demand.

Low T if you feel empathy towards animals

Do you feel empathy toward other humans? Your mother? Your siblings? Humans are animals too you know right?

 

[whiteislandpill]

Do you feel empathy toward other humans? Your mother? Your siblings? Humans are animals too you know right?

yes. Idgaf about animals tbh

 

[RecessedChinCel]

yes. Idgaf about animals tbh

Humans aren’t animals? Do you have any pets? Dog? Cat?

 

[NoReedemingFeature]

Shut up and eat meat you estrogen maxer

Feedlot meat is more estrogenic than soy

 

[asdvek]

Dude what the fuck is that type of killing holy shit thats inhumane

And shit bro todays dinner was steak too my mom is cooking steak

 

[puniteking]

Insanely brutal. The more I read about veganism the more I realize they are ethically correct. Additionally animal agriculture just isn’t sustainable and has a horrible impact on the climate, is a major cause of deforestation, and most importantly causes incomprehensible amounts of suffering.

Humans slaughter 80 BILLION land animals every year for food, and 10 BILLION in the United States alone. The overwhelming majority of which is from factory farms like in the video above. These types of practices are the norm not the exception.

Man they literally breed these animals into existence just for them to grow up in automated farms to be abused for their bodies.

Female cows must be artificially inseminated with bull semen in order to impregnate them so they secrete milk. Cows only produce milk when they are having children so they must be impregnated over and over again. When a calf is born if male they slaughter it and make veal. If a female they will grow up to be dairy cows and exploited in the same way for milk.

Once dairy cows are too old/no longer can produce milk they are slaughtered for meat. I personally can not morally justify eating animal products anymore. The creatures we exploit are innocent it’s just wrong man.

Ban this fucking Jew

 

[Aladin]

kys OP

 

[FaceandBBC]

I'm still eating animal organs and drinking their blood idc.

 

[NoReedemingFeature]

By the way having cows on land and letting them graze is so much better for the environment than feedlots and maybe even better than just growing grain. I don't really believe in the carbon and methane narratives but from what I've read letting a few cows graze naturally before slaughter is not really of concern. Cow excrement makes great fertilizer which benefits the soil extremely.
Grass fed meat is so much better than feedlot, much more nutritious and less inflammatory. It's more satiating than anything else.
Feedlot requires inefficiently expending crops as feed for the cow which they don't have the intended stomach for and is not efficiently converted to weight but allows for larger size and milk production overall. Grazing on grass gets rid of the need for crops and much of the deforestation and pollution is solved.

 

[whiteislandpill]

Humans aren’t animals? Do you have any pets? Dog? Cat?

Let me rephrase: Idgaf about animals besides humans

 

[RecessedChinCel]

By the way having cows on land and letting them graze is so much better for the environment

The conversion of land for cattle grazing is responsible for the majority of deforestation bro. There is no cope left.

Muh grass fed cattle is the primary reason why the Amazon forest is fucked.