Thoughts on the Clavicular x Myron Gaines debate

[Vantablack]

Clav is actually pretty blackpilled and it was interesting to see the dynamics clash. I agree with a lot of what he said. I guess i’m surprised because his audience is tiktok normies so I assumed he would be too

Completely agree with his point about molding hot women and the discrepancy between hot and normal foids not being that large. Myron sounded a bit bitter there. Based overall

 

[greycel]

Explain his points. What did he say about the hot women vs normal foids not being that large?
I'm guessing his argument was that makeup evens out the playing field. What makeup can't help with (bonemass + bone angularity), fewer women (than men) possess considerably more than average.
Also men have 0 standards, so colouring pill is less brutal than vice versa

What other things did he say

 

[Vantablack]

also clav is obviously jbpilled but won’t admit it on camera jfl

 

[Vantablack]

Explain his points. What did he say about the hot women vs normal foids not being that large?
I'm guessing his argument was that makeup evens out the playing field. What makeup can't help with (bonemass + bone angularity), fewer women (than men) possess considerably more than average.
Also men have 0 standards, so colouring pill is less brutal than vice versa

What other things did he say

no, myron argued the typical redpill line of run through 50 women before you decide to settle down, and do it with women below your looksmatch since they tend to be less entitled and easier to deal with

clav instead argued that this line of thinking is what enables hypergamy in the first place, and sub7 women are just as terrible as 8+ since they receive a similar amount of attention as hotter women. the more important thing is finding a younger woman who hasn’t experienced the coco carousel you can mold

 

[Minoxidilf]

no, myron argued the typical redpill line of run through 50 women before you decide to settle down, and do it with women below your looksmatch since they tend to be less entitled and easier to deal with

clav instead argued that this line of thinking is what enables hypergamy in the first place, and sub7 women are just as terrible as 8+ since they receive a similar amount of attention as hotter women. the more important thing is finding a younger woman who hasn’t experienced the coco carousel you can mold

I knew Clav wasn’t gonna do this but I wish he told Myron how low of an ROI his short ethnic audience is gonna get from gymcelling and muh 6 figures. Prime college MTB+ will not give a flying fuck ab these manlet LTNs that improoooved