Thoughts on this roid stack?

[soggra]

16 week cycle (repeat this cycle 3 times)

57mg tren per day (400mg a week)

350mg Test E per week

T3 25mcg daily

hCG 250 IUS 3 x a week

PCT will be 3 days after final injection

PCT-

Tamoxifen Weeks 1-2: 40 mg/day; Weeks 3-4: 20mg/dayOral


Tagging knowledgeable roidmaxxers

@copercel123

@Zagro

@Newday*V3

 

[copercel123]

You fucking GPT "warrior"

It doesn't fucking work like that on iOS or any other platform. Also you didn't reply to the other points.

Keep using GPT cuck @chadisbeingmade
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Only used gpt when I needed to read about researches for my thread on the science.

You think I just copy paste my takes from gpt like I don’t wanna learn myself?
Take your iPhone now and click on the “-“ twice and it comes out like that —.

SERMs work as PCT but it is still absolutely retarded to PCT in the first place nonetheless. HCG is enough for that purpose obviously.

And the HAARLEM study is dogshit.
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PCT fucking works negroid.

Nigga shut the fuck up with your ChatGPT

First indicator for GPT.
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Second (AI always forms its sentences as if everything is a possibility with terms like "can" and "support").

For that part — so I can’t use words that people use daily just because ai is using them aswell?

 

[org3cel.RR]

SERMs work as PCT but it is still absolutely retarded to PCT in the first place nonetheless. HCG is enough for that purpose obviously.

And the HAARLEM study is dogshit.
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PCT fucking works negroid.

Nigga shut the fuck up with your ChatGPT

First indicator for GPT.
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Second (AI always forms its sentences as if everything is a possibility with terms like "can" and "support").
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This dogshit sign exposed you yet again. Show me your fucking keyboard, nobody has that shit on his keyboard.
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@imontheloose @TitusA @halloweed @Zagro

Pct works, but its useless.
No need for pct just do a stronger ai for 2 weeks and ur test levels will go back to normal, worked for me

 

[Jonasㅤㅤ⠀]

Only used gpt when I needed to read about researches for my thread on the science.

You think I just copy paste my takes from gpt like I don’t wanna learn myself?
Take your iPhone now and click on the “-“ twice and it comes out like that —.

Why the fuck do you need AI for that?

You can just use the search bar retard.

For that part — so I can’t use words that people use daily just because ai is using them aswell?

It is a big fucking indicator that you used AI you can't even fucking deny that.

Pct works, but its useless.
No need for pct just do a stronger ai for 2 weeks and ur test levels will go back to normal, worked for me

Combine that with HCG and it is pretty much perfect.

 

[copercel123]

Why the fuck do you need AI for that?

You can just use the search bar retard.
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I needed specific ones I don’t remember which ones. So you think I searched on GPT “give me researches about stress so I can link them in my thread and not actually read them”? I could do it in Google too.

It is a big fucking indicator that you used AI you can't even fucking deny that.

yeah and why is that?

 

[aids]

There is 0 proof long term does anything beneficial for recovering Test levels, you said it yourself ("regardless of PCT usage") . The only long term study did not help. If Test level recovery was identical, and less semen volume in PCT group, why the fuck would would you take it JFL?

The recovery was identical 3 months post-cycle, does not mean it was identical earlier on, which I clarified in my initial point. Of course, given enough time, your body is going to recover from exogenous hormone usage. Point is that you cannot claim PCT is pointless without being able to compare testosterone levels side by side earlier on.
I would be keen to see a study where bloods are checked immediately upon conclusion of PCT (so like a month post-cycle) relative to a group of participants that did not take PCT, because that would be more relevant.

 

[soggra]

From what I’ve gathered about other peoples thoughts on this stack, I have updated the stack:


12 week cycle

57mg tren A per day (400mg a week) (start slow at 10mg per day and work my way up to 57mg per day

350mg Test E per week

T3 25mcg daily

hCG 175 IUS 3 x a week

Aromasin 12.5 mg EOD

No PCT

After this then just cruise on test


@Zagro
@Newday*V3
@copercel123
@chadisbeingmade
@Jonasㅤㅤ⠀
@aids
@org3cel.RR

Thoughts on this updated stack?

 

[Zagro]

From what I’ve gathered about other peoples thoughts on this stack, I have updated the stack:


16 week cycle

57mg tren A per day (400mg a week) (start slow at 10mg per day and work my way up to 57mg per day

350mg Test E per week

T3 25mcg daily

hCG 250 IUS 3 x a week

Aromasin 15mg daily

No PCT

After this then just cruise on test


@Zagro
@Newday*V3
@copercel123
@chadisbeingmade
@Jonasㅤㅤ⠀
@aids
@org3cel.RR

Thoughts on this updated stack?

I think 500iu hcg weekly is enough and 15mg aromasin is not needed i would say 12.5mg ed or eod should be enough depending on how sensitive you are.

Also 16 weeks of tren a is too long but don’t take my word for it.

 

[soggra]

I think 500iu hcg weekly is enough and 15mg aromasin is not needed i would say 12.5mg ed or eod should be enough depending on how sensitive you are.

Also 16 weeks of tren a is too long but don’t take my word for it.

8-12 weeks good?

 

[soggra]

Btw thanks to everyone helping me with this roid stack. I also forgot to mention that I am going to be using RU58841 and Isotret for hair and skin

 

[copercel123]

From what I’ve gathered about other peoples thoughts on this stack, I have updated the stack:


16 week cycle

57mg tren A per day (400mg a week) (start slow at 10mg per day and work my way up to 57mg per day

350mg Test E per week

T3 25mcg daily

hCG 250 IUS 3 x a week

Aromasin 15mg daily

No PCT

After this then just cruise on test


@Zagro
@Newday*V3
@copercel123
@chadisbeingmade
@Jonasㅤㅤ⠀
@aids
@org3cel.RR

Thoughts on this updated stack?

Either get rid of the tren or add pct

 

[Newday*V3]

Either get rid of the tren or add pct

fuck off, dont do neither why would he pct just to cycle again????? makes 0 sense, and how does getting rid of tren now make it so he doesnt have to pct when he is cruising on test which doesnt even make any fucking sense fuck off

 

[copercel123]

fuck off, dont do neither why would he pct just to cycle again????? makes 0 sense, and how does getting rid of tren now make it so he doesnt have to pct when he is cruising on test which doesnt even make any fucking sense fuck off

oh I didn’t saw the part where he said he’s going to cruise it. Why bro so mad

 

[copercel123]

fuck off, dont do neither why would he pct just to cycle again????? makes 0 sense, and how does getting rid of tren now make it so he doesnt have to pct when he is cruising on test which doesnt even make any fucking sense fuck off

He still should get rid of tren if it’s his first cycle tho. @soggra don’t take tren in your first cycle

 

[bonelessvirgin]

you dont need fucking tren

 

[soggra]

you dont need fucking tren

i am very serious about improving my dimorphism so I basically do need it

 

[bonelessvirgin]

i am very serious about improving my dimorphism so I basically do need it

no you do not, take test and some other milder steroids if you really think you need to but you do not need tren

 

[soggra]

He still should get rid of tren if it’s his first cycle tho. @soggra don’t take tren in your first cycle

Even if I start slow at 10mg per day I still shouldn’t use first cycle?

 

[copercel123]

Even if I start slow at 10mg per day I still shouldn’t use first cycle?

No. Even small doses can wreck your head and body if you’re new to it. Test alone first, feel out the sides, then think about adding tren later. Don’t jump straight into the deep end and get wrecked.

Test alone lets you learn your limits and you will learn how your body react to it. keep things safer. That’s why most vets say “test first, tren later”

 

[Inquisitor]

Idek that text was from a month ago or so, i just looked it up and you are right yeah.

@Inquisitor knows about it i think.

@soggra Tamoxifen can stunt growth by inducing apoptosis (cell death) of the osteoblasts and chondrocytes on the growth plates. It was studied on the leg growth plates of rats, and it stunted their longitudinal growth irreversibly. I don't have links to those studies as of right now, you can look it up, I also remember reading one that was a follow up on gyno affected adolescents, and how was their final adult height, and it was reduced compared to a control group.

I wouldn't play with Tamoxifen or Raloxifen ngl, there are other great AIs, those two are the strongest, and if you manage your estrogen properly you shouldn't fear gyno tbh. Just maintain your bf low, and would strongly recommend a blood test before cycle to know your baselines, and one when you're on cycle.

From personal experience, I've used Oxandrolone + enclomiphene, and enclomiphene actually counteracted the suppression from the Oxandrolone, I was at 4.16ng/ml total test when on those two compounds. Note that I'm on Tanner stage IV, bone age around 15.5, so those are kinda normal test levels, + oxandrolone also helps anabolically and androgenically speaking, please it has been talked about on many growth plates studies, and how it boosts longitudinal growth by increasing the amount of osteoblast and chondrocytes on the growth plate cartilage. It doesn't aromatize, so it doesn't speed up growth plates closure. You could try it instead of tren, which is pretty damn strong.

Mirin the commitment with that cycle, please do blood tests and stay safe brotha

 

[Newday*V3]

He still should get rid of tren if it’s his first cycle tho. @soggra don’t take tren in your first cycle

I took Tren on first cycle and ended up increasing the dose

 

[Newday*V3]

oh I didn’t saw the part where he said he’s going to cruise it. Why bro so mad

cuz u hate on tren grrrrr

 

[copercel123]

I took Tren on first cycle and ended up increasing the dose

Okay? What do you want me to say

 

[copercel123]

cuz u hate on tren grrrrr

I’m not a hater on tren im a hater on tren in your first cycle

 

[Newday*V3]

Okay? What do you want me to say

that there is no precaution to not use it first cycle? everyone is going to have there first time using tren whether it's first cycle or not doesnt make a difference

 

[copercel123]

that there is no precaution to not use it first cycle? everyone is going to have there first time using tren whether it's first cycle or not doesnt make a difference

It does make sense because you don’t know how your body react to AAS so it’s better starting off something less potent like test for example to see how your body react to it.if your body react good do it then just add it the next cycle, not that hard

 

[Newday*V3]

It does make sense because you don’t know how your body react to AAS so it’s better starting off something less potent like test for example to see how your body react to it.if your body react good do it then just add it the next cycle, not that hard

Dude, everyone starts of with test and gets saturated then throws in the extra compound, so you saying this still makes no sense, you can expect what sides you will get and how to negate them before hand and during it's not like you are pinning compound V

 

[copercel123]

Dude, everyone starts of with test and gets saturated then throws in the extra compound, so you saying this still makes no sense, you can expect what sides you will get and how to negate them before hand and during it's not like you are pinning compound V

It’s a very important precaution, it’s your choice bro idc

 

[KSK_Gorgasali]

start with one compound so you don't get confused which sides are from which compounds.

 

[Epochs]

Tren is a no no if you follow lookism

 

[soggra]

Tren is a no no if you follow lookism

It should make me look better since it increases dimorphism . And for avoiding the skin and hair issues that come with tren i would take RU58841 and isotretinoin

 

[hapagenes2]

It should make me look better since it increases dimorphism . And for avoiding the skin and hair issues that come with tren i would take RU58841 and isotretinoin

Do you plan on cycling tren for a long time? I'd assume just one cycle isnt enough for dimorphism gains, meaning you would need to also add GHK-Cu

 

[soggra]

Do you plan on cycling tren for a long time? I'd assume just one cycle isnt enough for dimorphism gains, meaning you would need to also add GHK-Cu

I do think one cycle is enough for dimorphism plus im also going to be cruising on test after. I’m planning on doing One 12 week cycle of tren

 

[ybuyhgui]

16 week cycle (repeat this cycle 3 times)

57mg tren per day (400mg a week)

350mg Test E per week

T3 25mcg daily

hCG 250 IUS 3 x a week

PCT will be 3 days after final injection

PCT-

Tamoxifen Weeks 1-2: 40 mg/day; Weeks 3-4: 20mg/dayOral


Tagging knowledgeable roidmaxxers

@copercel123

@Zagro

@Newday*V3

do you realise how insane 400mg of tren weekly is? And for a first cycle?? you will literally lose your mind

 

[soggra]

do you realise how insane 400mg of tren weekly is? And for a first cycle?? you will literally lose your mind

It’s pretty insane yeah. Wdym by lose my mind? Like I will get brain damage from it?