Thoughts on this roid stack?

[soggra]

16 week cycle (repeat this cycle 3 times)

57mg tren per day (400mg a week)

350mg Test E per week

T3 25mcg daily

hCG 250 IUS 3 x a week

PCT will be 3 days after final injection

PCT-

Tamoxifen Weeks 1-2: 40 mg/day; Weeks 3-4: 20mg/dayOral


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@copercel123

@Zagro

@Newday*V3

 

[Newday*V3]

Either get rid of the tren or add pct

fuck off, dont do neither why would he pct just to cycle again????? makes 0 sense, and how does getting rid of tren now make it so he doesnt have to pct when he is cruising on test which doesnt even make any fucking sense fuck off

 

[Deleted member 110192]

fuck off, dont do neither why would he pct just to cycle again????? makes 0 sense, and how does getting rid of tren now make it so he doesnt have to pct when he is cruising on test which doesnt even make any fucking sense fuck off

oh I didn’t saw the part where he said he’s going to cruise it. Why bro so mad

 

[Deleted member 110192]

fuck off, dont do neither why would he pct just to cycle again????? makes 0 sense, and how does getting rid of tren now make it so he doesnt have to pct when he is cruising on test which doesnt even make any fucking sense fuck off

He still should get rid of tren if it’s his first cycle tho. @soggra don’t take tren in your first cycle

 

[bonelessvirgin]

you dont need fucking tren

 

[soggra]

you dont need fucking tren

i am very serious about improving my dimorphism so I basically do need it

 

[bonelessvirgin]

i am very serious about improving my dimorphism so I basically do need it

no you do not, take test and some other milder steroids if you really think you need to but you do not need tren

 

[soggra]

He still should get rid of tren if it’s his first cycle tho. @soggra don’t take tren in your first cycle

Even if I start slow at 10mg per day I still shouldn’t use first cycle?

 

[Deleted member 110192]

Even if I start slow at 10mg per day I still shouldn’t use first cycle?

No. Even small doses can wreck your head and body if you’re new to it. Test alone first, feel out the sides, then think about adding tren later. Don’t jump straight into the deep end and get wrecked.

Test alone lets you learn your limits and you will learn how your body react to it. keep things safer. That’s why most vets say “test first, tren later”

 

[Inquisitor]

Idek that text was from a month ago or so, i just looked it up and you are right yeah.

@Inquisitor knows about it i think.

@soggra Tamoxifen can stunt growth by inducing apoptosis (cell death) of the osteoblasts and chondrocytes on the growth plates. It was studied on the leg growth plates of rats, and it stunted their longitudinal growth irreversibly. I don't have links to those studies as of right now, you can look it up, I also remember reading one that was a follow up on gyno affected adolescents, and how was their final adult height, and it was reduced compared to a control group.

I wouldn't play with Tamoxifen or Raloxifen ngl, there are other great AIs, those two are the strongest, and if you manage your estrogen properly you shouldn't fear gyno tbh. Just maintain your bf low, and would strongly recommend a blood test before cycle to know your baselines, and one when you're on cycle.

From personal experience, I've used Oxandrolone + enclomiphene, and enclomiphene actually counteracted the suppression from the Oxandrolone, I was at 4.16ng/ml total test when on those two compounds. Note that I'm on Tanner stage IV, bone age around 15.5, so those are kinda normal test levels, + oxandrolone also helps anabolically and androgenically speaking, please it has been talked about on many growth plates studies, and how it boosts longitudinal growth by increasing the amount of osteoblast and chondrocytes on the growth plate cartilage. It doesn't aromatize, so it doesn't speed up growth plates closure. You could try it instead of tren, which is pretty damn strong.

Mirin the commitment with that cycle, please do blood tests and stay safe brotha

 

[Newday*V3]

He still should get rid of tren if it’s his first cycle tho. @soggra don’t take tren in your first cycle

I took Tren on first cycle and ended up increasing the dose

 

[Newday*V3]

oh I didn’t saw the part where he said he’s going to cruise it. Why bro so mad

cuz u hate on tren grrrrr

 

[Deleted member 110192]

I took Tren on first cycle and ended up increasing the dose

Okay? What do you want me to say

 

[Deleted member 110192]

cuz u hate on tren grrrrr

I’m not a hater on tren im a hater on tren in your first cycle

 

[Newday*V3]

Okay? What do you want me to say

that there is no precaution to not use it first cycle? everyone is going to have there first time using tren whether it's first cycle or not doesnt make a difference

 

[Deleted member 110192]

that there is no precaution to not use it first cycle? everyone is going to have there first time using tren whether it's first cycle or not doesnt make a difference

It does make sense because you don’t know how your body react to AAS so it’s better starting off something less potent like test for example to see how your body react to it.if your body react good do it then just add it the next cycle, not that hard

 

[Newday*V3]

It does make sense because you don’t know how your body react to AAS so it’s better starting off something less potent like test for example to see how your body react to it.if your body react good do it then just add it the next cycle, not that hard

Dude, everyone starts of with test and gets saturated then throws in the extra compound, so you saying this still makes no sense, you can expect what sides you will get and how to negate them before hand and during it's not like you are pinning compound V

 

[Deleted member 110192]

Dude, everyone starts of with test and gets saturated then throws in the extra compound, so you saying this still makes no sense, you can expect what sides you will get and how to negate them before hand and during it's not like you are pinning compound V

It’s a very important precaution, it’s your choice bro idc

 

[KSK_Gorgasali]

start with one compound so you don't get confused which sides are from which compounds.

 

[Deleted member 155121]

Tren is a no no if you follow lookism

 

[soggra]

Tren is a no no if you follow lookism

It should make me look better since it increases dimorphism . And for avoiding the skin and hair issues that come with tren i would take RU58841 and isotretinoin

 

[Deleted member 28209]

It should make me look better since it increases dimorphism . And for avoiding the skin and hair issues that come with tren i would take RU58841 and isotretinoin

Do you plan on cycling tren for a long time? I'd assume just one cycle isnt enough for dimorphism gains, meaning you would need to also add GHK-Cu

 

[soggra]

Do you plan on cycling tren for a long time? I'd assume just one cycle isnt enough for dimorphism gains, meaning you would need to also add GHK-Cu

I do think one cycle is enough for dimorphism plus im also going to be cruising on test after. I’m planning on doing One 12 week cycle of tren

 

[ybuyhgui]

16 week cycle (repeat this cycle 3 times)

57mg tren per day (400mg a week)

350mg Test E per week

T3 25mcg daily

hCG 250 IUS 3 x a week

PCT will be 3 days after final injection

PCT-

Tamoxifen Weeks 1-2: 40 mg/day; Weeks 3-4: 20mg/dayOral


Tagging knowledgeable roidmaxxers

@copercel123

@Zagro

@Newday*V3

do you realise how insane 400mg of tren weekly is? And for a first cycle?? you will literally lose your mind

 

[soggra]

do you realise how insane 400mg of tren weekly is? And for a first cycle?? you will literally lose your mind

It’s pretty insane yeah. Wdym by lose my mind? Like I will get brain damage from it?

 

[ybuyhgui]

It’s pretty insane yeah. Wdym by lose my mind? Like I will get brain damage from it?

nah you'll be extremely aggressive, get no sleep, sweat constantly, be super anxious and probably get panic attacks, get depression, and this one isn’t mental but you'll be producing milk out of your tits, get erectile dysfunction and almost certainly permanently shut down test production if ran for over 2 months. Most very advanced gear takers can’t handle the sides over 200mg but you do you g

 

[realshit]

PCT is a meme.

 

[Punjabi Waffen]

renove all that shit only keep gh and test, and hcg