Thumbpulling is effective to laterally expand the maxilla.

tomahawk

tomahawk

I am.
Joined
Nov 8, 2025
Posts
7,961
Reputation
15,219
These pictures are July-August 2025.
IMG 20250719 002201

IMG 20250830 233159

As you can see my FWHR is horrendous and my zygomatic projection is utter shit.
Used to have to spray xylometazoline/oxymetazoline just to breathe thrice a day.
Distance between 2nd premolars: 34mm;
IMW: 39mm.
I'd give myself LLTN on those pictures.
IMG 20260212 182240
IMG 20260227 WA0014


Undoubtedly look better. Greater zygomatic projection. Breathing is on point.
Around February-March 2026.
Distance between 2nd premolars: 36.5mm (+2.5mm);
IMW: 41mm (+2mm).
Simple, the midpalatal suture has shown to be easily ruptured in fully closed shut scenarios at 86N. Study: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/23377077/
In a younger person that threshold is much lower, and thumbs can easily exert such force.
It is likely often, short bursts of pulling would be more effective to maintain width and widen the maxilla.

My routine was 1.5 minutes every hour, back, middle, front of the maxilla for 30 seconds each. If you often notice yourself to have a stuffy nose, you'll feel it clearing up midpull.

I barely followed this routine because I'm a lazy fuck, but I'm pretty sure your results would be way better if you were to be more consistent. Don't take pauses like I did (like November-December 2025), the osteoid takes time to calcify and become actual bone.
I also suggest upping the time if you're capable of it. Don't be aggressive, consistency is key.

I also happen to notice expansion in the pterygoid region may aid very well. To do so, locate triangle shaped bone behind the last molars. They'll be in the beginning of the soft palatal region. Pull them apart for 30sec as a beginner and mote if you wish to.
@Orka @foidletslayer @Grilldaddy❤️ @MouthBreathingElite @looks>books
 
  • +1
  • Love it
  • JFL
Reactions: changfrommumbai, egstarbucks, MouthBreathingElite and 13 others
tomahawk said:
These pictures are July-August 2025.
View attachment 4828881View attachment 4828880
As you can see my FWHR is horrendous and my zygomatic projection is utter shit.
Used to have to spray xylometazoline/oxymetazoline just to breathe thrice a day.
Distance between 2nd premolars: 34mm;
IMW: 39mm.
I'd give myself LLTN on those pictures.
View attachment 4828882View attachment 4828884
View attachment 4828885
Undoubtedly look better. Greater zygomatic projection. Breathing is on point.
Around February-March 2026.
Distance between 2nd premolars: 36.5mm (+2.5mm);
IMW: 41mm (+2mm).
Simple, the midpalatal suture has shown to be easily ruptured in fully closed shut scenarios at 86N. Study: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/23377077/
In a younger person that threshold is much lower, and thumbs can easily exert such force.
It is likely often, short bursts of pulling would be more effective to maintain width and widen the maxilla.

My routine was 1.5 minutes every hour, back, middle, front of the maxilla for 30 seconds each. If you often notice yourself to have a stuffy nose, you'll feel it clearing up midpull.

I barely followed this routine because I'm a lazy fuck, but I'm pretty sure your results would be way better if you were to be more consistent. Don't take pauses like I did (like November-December 2025), the osteoid takes time to calcify and become actual bone.
I also suggest upping the time if you're capable of it. Don't be aggressive, consistency is key.

I also happen to notice expansion in the pterygoid region may aid very well. To do so, locate triangle shaped bone behind the last molars. They'll be in the beginning of the soft palatal region. Pull them apart for 30sec as a beginner and mote if you wish to.
@Orka @foidletslayer @Grilldaddy❤️ @MouthBreathingElite @looks>books
Click to expand...
ngas will do anything but get a palate exp
 
  • +1
Reactions: egstarbucks, foidletslayer and tomahawk
Age between the pics?
 
  • +1
Reactions: foidletslayer and tomahawk
  • +1
  • Love it
Reactions: Ray0n, foidletslayer and tomahawk
Today marks the debut of this legendary gif IMG 4915
 
  • JFL
  • +1
Reactions: copingmaxnt, Light_Kira, Idontknow- and 3 others
  • +1
Reactions: tomahawk
Mogs me
 
  • Love it
Reactions: tomahawk
  • JFL
Reactions: Light_Kira and tomahawk
thumbpulling isnt the same as an orthodontic palate expander
 
  • JFL
Reactions: tomahawk
Bump
 
  • Love it
Reactions: tomahawk
tomahawk said:
These pictures are July-August 2025.
View attachment 4828881
View attachment 4828877
As you can see my FWHR is horrendous and my zygomatic projection is utter shit.
Used to have to spray xylometazoline/oxymetazoline just to breathe thrice a day.
Distance between 2nd premolars: 34mm;
IMW: 39mm.
I'd give myself LLTN on those pictures.
View attachment 4828882View attachment 4828884
View attachment 4828885
Undoubtedly look better. Greater zygomatic projection. Breathing is on point.
Around February-March 2026.
Distance between 2nd premolars: 36.5mm (+2.5mm);
IMW: 41mm (+2mm).
Simple, the midpalatal suture has shown to be easily ruptured in fully closed shut scenarios at 86N. Study: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/23377077/
In a younger person that threshold is much lower, and thumbs can easily exert such force.
It is likely often, short bursts of pulling would be more effective to maintain width and widen the maxilla.

My routine was 1.5 minutes every hour, back, middle, front of the maxilla for 30 seconds each. If you often notice yourself to have a stuffy nose, you'll feel it clearing up midpull.

I barely followed this routine because I'm a lazy fuck, but I'm pretty sure your results would be way better if you were to be more consistent. Don't take pauses like I did (like November-December 2025), the osteoid takes time to calcify and become actual bone.
I also suggest upping the time if you're capable of it. Don't be aggressive, consistency is key.

I also happen to notice expansion in the pterygoid region may aid very well. To do so, locate triangle shaped bone behind the last molars. They'll be in the beginning of the soft palatal region. Pull them apart for 30sec as a beginner and mote if you wish to.
@Orka @foidletslayer @Grilldaddy❤️ @MouthBreathingElite @looks>books
Click to expand...
make a tutorial so i can cope
 
Does premaxilla pushing work?
 
  • +1
Reactions: tomahawk
tomahawk said:
These pictures are July-August 2025.
View attachment 4828881
View attachment 4828877
As you can see my FWHR is horrendous and my zygomatic projection is utter shit.
Used to have to spray xylometazoline/oxymetazoline just to breathe thrice a day.
Distance between 2nd premolars: 34mm;
IMW: 39mm.
I'd give myself LLTN on those pictures.
View attachment 4828882View attachment 4828884
View attachment 4828885
Undoubtedly look better. Greater zygomatic projection. Breathing is on point.
Around February-March 2026.
Distance between 2nd premolars: 36.5mm (+2.5mm);
IMW: 41mm (+2mm).
Simple, the midpalatal suture has shown to be easily ruptured in fully closed shut scenarios at 86N. Study: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/23377077/
In a younger person that threshold is much lower, and thumbs can easily exert such force.
It is likely often, short bursts of pulling would be more effective to maintain width and widen the maxilla.

My routine was 1.5 minutes every hour, back, middle, front of the maxilla for 30 seconds each. If you often notice yourself to have a stuffy nose, you'll feel it clearing up midpull.

I barely followed this routine because I'm a lazy fuck, but I'm pretty sure your results would be way better if you were to be more consistent. Don't take pauses like I did (like November-December 2025), the osteoid takes time to calcify and become actual bone.
I also suggest upping the time if you're capable of it. Don't be aggressive, consistency is key.

I also happen to notice expansion in the pterygoid region may aid very well. To do so, locate triangle shaped bone behind the last molars. They'll be in the beginning of the soft palatal region. Pull them apart for 30sec as a beginner and mote if you wish to.
@Orka @foidletslayer @Grilldaddy❤️ @MouthBreathingElite @looks>books
Click to expand...
nigga u js grew up
 
  • JFL
Reactions: tomahawk
I want to believe in you but are you sure you measured both measurements correctly with the same method? 2.5mm sounds good enough and it isn't that big to be unbelievable but isn't that big either, so a bad measurement as a reason can also back it up.
Also there were theories that short bursts are better instead of long ones (same with bonesmashing, although it only gives you swells) but 90s an hour is enough truly? Then the hard part is really the consistency and reminders I guess, I'll look into it and maybe try it out on myself, but for now I think it's still cope :feelscry:
 
  • +1
Reactions: tomahawk
iqletandrew73 said:
I want to believe in you but are you sure you measured both measurements correctly with the same method? 2.5mm sounds good enough and it isn't that big to be unbelievable but isn't that big either, so a bad measurement as a reason can also back it up.
Also there were theories that short bursts are better instead of long ones (same with bonesmashing, although it only gives you swells) but 90s an hour is enough truly? Then the hard part is really the consistency and reminders I guess, I'll look into it and maybe try it out on myself, but for now I think it's still cope :feelscry:
Click to expand...
you can do 20m a day, thatd be enough
i measured by paper bite method average
 
  • +1
Reactions: iqletandrew73
tomahawk said:
These pictures are July-August 2025.
View attachment 4828881
View attachment 4828877
As you can see my FWHR is horrendous and my zygomatic projection is utter shit.
Used to have to spray xylometazoline/oxymetazoline just to breathe thrice a day.
Distance between 2nd premolars: 34mm;
IMW: 39mm.
I'd give myself LLTN on those pictures.
View attachment 4828882View attachment 4828884
View attachment 4828885
Undoubtedly look better. Greater zygomatic projection. Breathing is on point.
Around February-March 2026.
Distance between 2nd premolars: 36.5mm (+2.5mm);
IMW: 41mm (+2mm).
Simple, the midpalatal suture has shown to be easily ruptured in fully closed shut scenarios at 86N. Study: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/23377077/
In a younger person that threshold is much lower, and thumbs can easily exert such force.
It is likely often, short bursts of pulling would be more effective to maintain width and widen the maxilla.

My routine was 1.5 minutes every hour, back, middle, front of the maxilla for 30 seconds each. If you often notice yourself to have a stuffy nose, you'll feel it clearing up midpull.

I barely followed this routine because I'm a lazy fuck, but I'm pretty sure your results would be way better if you were to be more consistent. Don't take pauses like I did (like November-December 2025), the osteoid takes time to calcify and become actual bone.
I also suggest upping the time if you're capable of it. Don't be aggressive, consistency is key.

I also happen to notice expansion in the pterygoid region may aid very well. To do so, locate triangle shaped bone behind the last molars. They'll be in the beginning of the soft palatal region. Pull them apart for 30sec as a beginner and mote if you wish to.
@Orka @foidletslayer @Grilldaddy❤️ @MouthBreathingElite @looks>books
Click to expand...
One of jester pastels sheep
 
  • JFL
Reactions: tomahawk
tomahawk said:
These pictures are July-August 2025.
View attachment 4828881
View attachment 4828877
As you can see my FWHR is horrendous and my zygomatic projection is utter shit.
Used to have to spray xylometazoline/oxymetazoline just to breathe thrice a day.
Distance between 2nd premolars: 34mm;
IMW: 39mm.
I'd give myself LLTN on those pictures.
View attachment 4828882View attachment 4828884
View attachment 4828885
Undoubtedly look better. Greater zygomatic projection. Breathing is on point.
Around February-March 2026.
Distance between 2nd premolars: 36.5mm (+2.5mm);
IMW: 41mm (+2mm).
Simple, the midpalatal suture has shown to be easily ruptured in fully closed shut scenarios at 86N. Study: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/23377077/
In a younger person that threshold is much lower, and thumbs can easily exert such force.
It is likely often, short bursts of pulling would be more effective to maintain width and widen the maxilla.

My routine was 1.5 minutes every hour, back, middle, front of the maxilla for 30 seconds each. If you often notice yourself to have a stuffy nose, you'll feel it clearing up midpull.

I barely followed this routine because I'm a lazy fuck, but I'm pretty sure your results would be way better if you were to be more consistent. Don't take pauses like I did (like November-December 2025), the osteoid takes time to calcify and become actual bone.
I also suggest upping the time if you're capable of it. Don't be aggressive, consistency is key.

I also happen to notice expansion in the pterygoid region may aid very well. To do so, locate triangle shaped bone behind the last molars. They'll be in the beginning of the soft palatal region. Pull them apart for 30sec as a beginner and mote if you wish to.
@Orka @foidletslayer @Grilldaddy❤️ @MouthBreathingElite @looks>books
Click to expand...
Mirin, thanks for tag
 
  • Love it
Reactions: tomahawk
“Thumbpulling ascended me ascension”
Sad Tampa Bay Rays GIF by Jomboy Media

Typing Keyboard GIF
 
wow now everyone is agreeing on thumbpulling

I have seen this forum's sentiments go complete circle
 
  • JFL
Reactions: tomahawk
You must log in or register to reply here.

Similar threads

M
thumbpulling
Replies
7
Views
116
r1ght
r1ght
ithat2
Thumbpulling works?
Replies
3
Views
172
jeffersonmogs54321
jeffersonmogs54321
M
thumbpulling
Replies
15
Views
309
xqBandit
xqBandit
I
Does starve maxing and thumbpulling work?
Replies
9
Views
209
hatefoids666
hatefoids666
F
Discussion Thumbpulling ruined my face
2
Replies
50
Views
347
Palan
Palan

Users who are viewing this thread

Total: 2 (Looksmaxers: 0, Bluepillers: 2)
Back
Top