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Why Someone Would Do This
You want your jaw, chin, and brow bone to get bigger. You think taking a bunch of drugs at once while you're 17 will push your face to grow more than it would naturally. You also want to get huge and lean at the same time.
What's In It
What You Think Will Happen
On your face:
At 17 with open growth plates – maybe your jaw grows 0-4mm. That's within normal puberty anyway. Half of what you see is just your jaw muscles getting bigger from clenching your teeth at night. The rest is losing fat in your cheeks so the bone you already had looks sharper.
On your height:
You will lose 1-4 inches of final height permanently. Growth plates fuse shut fast on this stuff. That's 50-80% chance.
On your heart:
Your heart muscle gets thicker. This does not go back to normal. 100% of people on HGH plus steroids for 6+ months show this on an ultrasound.
On your blood sugar:
You will become pre-diabetic or diabetic. Insulin + HGH + steroids wreck your sugar control. 80% get fasting glucose over 100 within 3 months.
On your nuts:
They shrink. They stop making testosterone. After one cycle at 17, you have a 30-50% chance of needing testosterone shots for the rest of your life starting by age 25.
On your tits:
30-60% chance you grow breast tissue that requires surgery to remove. You will have scars under your nipples.
On your hairline:
If your dad is bald, you will be bald by 22.
Side Effects Quick List
The Real Bottom Line
A 17 year old doing this stack will lose height, damage their heart, mess up their blood sugar, and likely need testosterone shots forever. In return, their jaw might look slightly different. Not bigger. Just different.
If you are over 21 – zero facial bone growth. Zero. All the drugs in the world won't grow your face bones after your growth plates close. You're just hurting your organs for no bone change.
What Guys Mistake For Bone Growth
You want your jaw, chin, and brow bone to get bigger. You think taking a bunch of drugs at once while you're 17 will push your face to grow more than it would naturally. You also want to get huge and lean at the same time.
What's In It
| Drug | How Much (what forums say) | How You Take It |
|---|---|---|
| Testosterone | 500-1000mg every week | Needle in muscle |
| Growth Hormone (HGH) | 4-10IU every day | Needle under skin |
| Masteron or Anavar (DHT type) | 50-100mg every day | Pill or needle |
| Insulin | 5-15IU after workouts | Needle under skin |
| Thyroid pill (T4) | 50-150mcg every day | Pill |
- Jaw gets 3-8mm longer
- Brow sticks out more
- Chin moves forward
- Gain 15-30lbs of muscle
- Lose body fat at the same time
On your face:
At 17 with open growth plates – maybe your jaw grows 0-4mm. That's within normal puberty anyway. Half of what you see is just your jaw muscles getting bigger from clenching your teeth at night. The rest is losing fat in your cheeks so the bone you already had looks sharper.
On your height:
You will lose 1-4 inches of final height permanently. Growth plates fuse shut fast on this stuff. That's 50-80% chance.
On your heart:
Your heart muscle gets thicker. This does not go back to normal. 100% of people on HGH plus steroids for 6+ months show this on an ultrasound.
On your blood sugar:
You will become pre-diabetic or diabetic. Insulin + HGH + steroids wreck your sugar control. 80% get fasting glucose over 100 within 3 months.
On your nuts:
They shrink. They stop making testosterone. After one cycle at 17, you have a 30-50% chance of needing testosterone shots for the rest of your life starting by age 25.
On your tits:
30-60% chance you grow breast tissue that requires surgery to remove. You will have scars under your nipples.
On your hairline:
If your dad is bald, you will be bald by 22.
Side Effects Quick List
| Problem | How Likely | Goes Away? |
|---|---|---|
| Cystic acne all over back/shoulders | 70-90% | Scars stay |
| Losing height (if under 18) | 50-80% | No |
| Heart gets thicker | 100% after 6 months | A little, not all |
| Diabetes or pre-diabetes | 80% | Partially |
| Needing TRT for life | 30-50% | No |
| Man boobs that need surgery | 30-60% | No |
| Hair loss (if prone) | 40-60% | No |
| High blood pressure | 70-90% | Partially |
A 17 year old doing this stack will lose height, damage their heart, mess up their blood sugar, and likely need testosterone shots forever. In return, their jaw might look slightly different. Not bigger. Just different.
If you are over 21 – zero facial bone growth. Zero. All the drugs in the world won't grow your face bones after your growth plates close. You're just hurting your organs for no bone change.
What Guys Mistake For Bone Growth
- Bigger jaw muscles from grinding teeth at night (real, but not bone)
- Less fat on your cheeks (makes bone look sharper)
- Water retention puffing your face (goes away when you stop)
- Acromegaly from too much HGH – makes your nose and brow thick in a weird way, not handsome
