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Brad Pitt had a higher Sexual Market Value (SMV) at his peak than Michael Jackson — especially if we’re talking about conventional, general appeal.

Here's the breakdown:​

🔹 Brad Pitt (Peak SMV: 1990s–early 2000s)​

  • Looks: Universally considered a top-tier male face — perfect bone structure, symmetry, jawline, skin, eyes.
  • Body: Lean, muscular, very aesthetic — "Fight Club" era Pitt became a standard for male physique.
  • Charisma: Confident, relaxed, masculine vibe.
  • Status: A-list actor, Hollywood elite, constant media attention.
  • Appeal to Women: Extremely high — he was regularly voted Sexiest Man Alive, became a sex symbol globally, and had a wide, mainstream female fanbase.
  • Social Proof: Dated other high-status women (e.g., Angelina Jolie, Jennifer Aniston).
→ SMV: Off the charts. Especially in the Western sexual hierarchy.

🔹 Michael Jackson (Peak SMV: mid-1980s)​

  • Looks: Early 80s MJ had softer, more androgynous looks. Later surgeries drastically altered his appearance.
  • Talent: Unreal musical ability, unmatched dancing, global superstardom.
  • Status: Possibly the most famous man on Earth at one point.
  • Appeal to Women: Strong, especially from fame and talent. But a lot of his fanbase was younger or obsessed more with idolization than sexual attraction.
  • Controversies: Allegations later in life and his eccentric behavior damaged public perception and sexual appeal.
→ SMV: Extremely high due to fame, but less traditionally masculine or sexually dominant.

✅ Conclusion​

Brad Pitt had the higher SMV at his peak because he combined:
  • elite facial aesthetics
  • masculine sexual energy
  • mainstream female attraction
  • and status without controversy.
Michael Jackson, while a once-in-a-generation icon, had an SMV shaped more by fame and idol status than raw sexual appeal — especially in the traditional sense.
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Michael Jackson (Peak SMV: 1983–1995)

• Looks:

In the early ’80s, MJ had soft, symmetrical features with clear skin and sharp bone structure.


In the Dangerous era, he leaned into a more mysterious, edgy look with strong jawlines, sharper features, and distinct fashion.


His androgynous style didn’t follow the Western alpha male blueprint, but it created a unique sexual identity that women found irresistible.









Body & Movement:

While not muscular, MJ had a lean, athletic build and extremely coordinated body control.


His dancing was inherently sexual — hip thrusts, chest pops, fluid motion — all of which displayed dominance, rhythm, and performance confidence, key SMV traits even in evolutionary psychology.


He was compared to Elvis in terms of how he moved women emotionally and physically.

• Charisma:

Hyper-charismatic, but in a unique way: mysterious, soft-spoken, and emotionally charged, which created fantasy and intrigue.


On stage, he had commanding presence — people froze, fainted, or sobbed just watching him stand still.


This level of emotional pull is rare, and far more powerful than the typical alpha-chad confidence.

• Status:

One of the most globally famous and powerful figures in history.


At his peak, he had more influence than any actor, and even most politicians.


He sold out arenas worldwide, moved markets, and was treated like royalty by world leaders.


He owned the Beatles catalog, was wealthier than most Hollywood elites, and was the blueprint for stardom.
• Appeal to Women:
Female fans literally fainted, screamed, cried, and threw themselves at him — worldwide.
He dated or was pursued by women like Brooke Shields, Madonna, Lisa Marie Presley, Naomi Campbell, and many others.
His appeal was both sexual and emotional — women projected deep desires, romantic fantasies, and loyalty onto him.
His mystery only intensified the attraction.








• Social Proof:

Michael Jackson was desired by high-status women across Hollywood, fashion, and royalty.


He was pursued by multiple famous women and married Lisa Marie Presley — daughter of Elvis — in a widely publicized (and passionate) relationship.


Unlike Pitt, whose dating life was public and expected, MJ’s private life created an obsessive curiosity, which amplified his mystique and desirability.

→ SMV:

Extremely high — globally and across all racial, class, and national lines.


While Brad Pitt embodied the Western archetype, MJ transcended it.


He wasn’t just a man women wanted — he was a force they couldn’t look away from.
 
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heightisthetruth said:
  • SMV isn’t just about bone structure or Hollywood-approved masculinity.
  • It’s a combination of influence, desirability, cultural power, charisma, mystique, and legacy.
  • By that measure, Michael Jackson outclassed Brad Pitt globally, especially in peak years (1983–1992).
















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Global Impact and Female Fanbase








  • MJ had massive female fan hysteria — fainting, screaming, tears — on every continent.
  • He caused riots in Brazil, India, Germany, and across Africa — Pitt never even came close.
  • Jackson’s concerts were full of women losing emotional and physical control — a rare level of female response that suggests extreme sexual energy and star power.
  • Many women reported deep emotional, romantic, and even fantasy-level attraction to him — not just admiration.
















🎤


Cultural Power > Looks Alone








  • Michael Jackson wasn’t “classically masculine,” but he projected raw sexual charisma through performance — think “Dirty Diana,” “In the Closet,” “Give In to Me,” etc.
  • His dancing, style, and voice created a sensual persona that transcended looks.
  • Cultural dominance + sexual mystique = an unmatchable SMV formula.
















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Status and Wealth








  • MJ was richer and more globally powerful than Brad Pitt ever was.
  • At one point, he owned half of the Beatles catalog, was friends with royalty, and could shut down entire cities with an appearance.
  • Pitt’s fame is massive — but MJ’s was mythological.
















👥


Social Proof and Legacy








  • Jackson’s influence led to generations of artists (male and female) idolizing him.
  • He had relationships with women like Brooke Shields, Lisa Marie Presley, and was pursued by countless women — but he kept his private life guarded, which added to his mystique, not subtracted from it.
















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Controversy ≠ Lower SMV








  • The late-life allegations came after his peak — they shouldn’t be used to measure his 1980s–early 90s SMV.
  • Many fans didn’t care, and some women even found the “misunderstood” element more compelling.
  • In contrast, Pitt’s dating life was more public and conventional — but not nearly as obsessive or universal.
















✅


Conclusion








Michael Jackson had the higher SMV — not by Western gym bro standards, but by:





  • Emotional response
  • Sexual mystique
  • Cultural dominance
  • Global female desire







Brad Pitt looked like the “ideal man” in GQ — Michael Jackson was worshipped.




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Michael Jackson (Peak SMV: 1983–1995)











• Looks:








In the early ’80s, MJ had soft, symmetrical features with clear skin and sharp bone structure.


In the Dangerous era, he leaned into a more mysterious, edgy look with strong jawlines, sharper features, and distinct fashion.


His androgynous style didn’t follow the Western alpha male blueprint, but it created a unique sexual identity that women found irresistible.














• Body & Movement:








While not muscular, MJ had a lean, athletic build and extremely coordinated body control.


His dancing was inherently sexual — hip thrusts, chest pops, fluid motion — all of which displayed dominance, rhythm, and performance confidence, key SMV traits even in evolutionary psychology.


He was compared to Elvis in terms of how he moved women emotionally and physically.














• Charisma:








Hyper-charismatic, but in a unique way: mysterious, soft-spoken, and emotionally charged, which created fantasy and intrigue.


On stage, he had commanding presence — people froze, fainted, or sobbed just watching him stand still.


This level of emotional pull is rare, and far more powerful than the typical alpha-chad confidence.














• Status:








One of the most globally famous and powerful figures in history.


At his peak, he had more influence than any actor, and even most politicians.


He sold out arenas worldwide, moved markets, and was treated like royalty by world leaders.


He owned the Beatles catalog, was wealthier than most Hollywood elites, and was the blueprint for stardom.














• Appeal to Women:








Female fans literally fainted, screamed, cried, and threw themselves at him — worldwide.


He dated or was pursued by women like Brooke Shields, Madonna, Lisa Marie Presley, Naomi Campbell, and many others.


His appeal was both sexual and emotional — women projected deep desires, romantic fantasies, and loyalty onto him.


His mystery only intensified the attraction.














• Social Proof:








Michael Jackson was desired by high-status women across Hollywood, fashion, and royalty.


He was pursued by multiple famous women and married Lisa Marie Presley — daughter of Elvis — in a widely publicized (and passionate) relationship.


Unlike Pitt, whose dating life was public and expected, MJ’s private life created an obsessive curiosity, which amplified his mystique and desirability.














→ SMV:








Extremely high — globally and across all racial, class, and national lines.


While Brad Pitt embodied the Western archetype, MJ transcended it.


He wasn’t just a man women wanted — he was a force they couldn’t look away from.
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ChatGPT said:​

This is a well-written and passionate argument — and you’re right that Sexual Market Value (SMV) isn’t just about looks or traditional masculinity. However, while Michael Jackson’s global impact and mystique were unparalleled, there’s still a clear distinction between idolization and sexual desire. Let’s break this down point-by-point and offer a grounded debunking:

🌍 “Global Impact = Higher SMV”​

“MJ caused riots, women fainted — Pitt never came close.”
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Debunk:
You're conflating fandom hysteria with sexual market value, which is about mate value in a more biological and romantic context.
  • Women screaming and fainting at concerts is more about celebrity worship than raw sexual attraction.
  • MJ's appeal often mirrored the energy of Beatlemania — obsessive, but not always sexual.
  • Brad Pitt didn’t cause riots — but women wanted to sleep with him, not just faint at his presence.
📌 SMV ≠ Celebrity Fan Frenzy — It’s about being desirable as a mate, not as an icon.

🎤 “Cultural Power > Looks Alone”​

“MJ wasn’t classically masculine but had sexual charisma through music and performance.”
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Debunk:
Yes, MJ had performance charisma, especially in songs like “Dirty Diana” or “In the Closet.” But this charisma:
  • Relied heavily on persona, lighting, stage control — not baseline physical dominance.
  • Doesn’t always translate to raw, in-person sexual magnetism — unlike Pitt, whose presence was often enough to attract without effort.
Brad Pitt had both: classic male sexual features and on-screen charisma. MJ had charisma, but his real-life androgyny and soft features often created ambiguous sexual signals, which don’t register as high SMV universally.

💸 “MJ had more status and wealth”​

“Owned Beatles catalog, richer, could shut down cities.”
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Debunk:
Yes, MJ’s status was beyond superstar — no argument there. But in sexual dynamics, status is filtered through appearance and masculine traits.
  • A man can be ultra-rich and still not sexually desired by women if he doesn’t have physical appeal or masculine energy.
  • MJ’s lack of sexual transparency (surgical changes, whispery voice, hidden relationships) blurred his sexual identity — whereas Pitt’s was openly masculine, dominant, and magnetic.
📌 Wealth ≠ sexual desirability on its own, especially when mixed with ambiguity.

👥 “Social proof and mystique”​

“Jackson’s mystery added to his appeal.”
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Debunk:
Mystique can enhance SMV — but it has to come from a place of dominance and intrigue, not confusion or detachment.
  • MJ’s mystery often came across as untouchable or non-sexual, almost angelic or alien — not like a man women fantasize about sleeping with.
  • Pitt, by contrast, was raw, accessible, and undeniably masculine — closer to primal female sexual preference.

⚖️ “Controversy doesn’t lower his peak SMV”​

“Allegations came later, didn’t affect 80s–90s SMV.”
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Fair, to a degree. However:
  • Even in the 80s–90s, MJ’s public romantic links were few and often seen as performative (e.g., Lisa Marie kiss).
  • Pitt’s real-life dating life was a continuation of his SMV — he attracted top-tier women naturally, repeatedly.
📌 A lack of sexual transparency always affects how women perceive desirability.

✅ Final Verdict:​

Michael Jackson was a cultural god, a global phenomenon, and had millions of fans who loved, admired, and even obsessed over him.
But Brad Pitt had higher SMV in the raw sexual sense because:
  • He represented unambiguous male physical beauty
  • He was desired directly as a mate, not just admired as a god-like performer
  • His masculinity, looks, and lifestyle lined up with evolutionary female attraction cues

TL;DR:​

  • MJ: Worshipped like a deity, deeply admired, mystique-heavy, but often sexually ambiguous.
  • Pitt: Desired like a mate, consistently objectified, and embodied raw masculine sexual energy.
Michael Jackson had mythology-level fame.
Brad Pitt had primal-level sexual value.
Two different lanes. Pitt wins in SMV.
4o
 
pfl said:

ChatGPT said:​

This is a well-written and passionate argument — and you’re right that Sexual Market Value (SMV) isn’t just about looks or traditional masculinity. However, while Michael Jackson’s global impact and mystique were unparalleled, there’s still a clear distinction between idolization and sexual desire. Let’s break this down point-by-point and offer a grounded debunking:

🌍 “Global Impact = Higher SMV”​


Debunk:
You're conflating fandom hysteria with sexual market value, which is about mate value in a more biological and romantic context.
  • Women screaming and fainting at concerts is more about celebrity worship than raw sexual attraction.
  • MJ's appeal often mirrored the energy of Beatlemania — obsessive, but not always sexual.
  • Brad Pitt didn’t cause riots — but women wanted to sleep with him, not just faint at his presence.
📌 SMV ≠ Celebrity Fan Frenzy — It’s about being desirable as a mate, not as an icon.

🎤 “Cultural Power > Looks Alone”​


Debunk:
Yes, MJ had performance charisma, especially in songs like “Dirty Diana” or “In the Closet.” But this charisma:
  • Relied heavily on persona, lighting, stage control — not baseline physical dominance.
  • Doesn’t always translate to raw, in-person sexual magnetism — unlike Pitt, whose presence was often enough to attract without effort.
Brad Pitt had both: classic male sexual features and on-screen charisma. MJ had charisma, but his real-life androgyny and soft features often created ambiguous sexual signals, which don’t register as high SMV universally.

💸 “MJ had more status and wealth”​


Debunk:
Yes, MJ’s status was beyond superstar — no argument there. But in sexual dynamics, status is filtered through appearance and masculine traits.
  • A man can be ultra-rich and still not sexually desired by women if he doesn’t have physical appeal or masculine energy.
  • MJ’s lack of sexual transparency (surgical changes, whispery voice, hidden relationships) blurred his sexual identity — whereas Pitt’s was openly masculine, dominant, and magnetic.
📌 Wealth ≠ sexual desirability on its own, especially when mixed with ambiguity.

👥 “Social proof and mystique”​


Debunk:
Mystique can enhance SMV — but it has to come from a place of dominance and intrigue, not confusion or detachment.
  • MJ’s mystery often came across as untouchable or non-sexual, almost angelic or alien — not like a man women fantasize about sleeping with.
  • Pitt, by contrast, was raw, accessible, and undeniably masculine — closer to primal female sexual preference.

⚖️ “Controversy doesn’t lower his peak SMV”​


Fair, to a degree. However:
  • Even in the 80s–90s, MJ’s public romantic links were few and often seen as performative (e.g., Lisa Marie kiss).
  • Pitt’s real-life dating life was a continuation of his SMV — he attracted top-tier women naturally, repeatedly.
📌 A lack of sexual transparency always affects how women perceive desirability.

✅ Final Verdict:​

Michael Jackson was a cultural god, a global phenomenon, and had millions of fans who loved, admired, and even obsessed over him.
But Brad Pitt had higher SMV in the raw sexual sense because:
  • He represented unambiguous male physical beauty
  • He was desired directly as a mate, not just admired as a god-like performer
  • His masculinity, looks, and lifestyle lined up with evolutionary female attraction cues

TL;DR:​

  • MJ: Worshipped like a deity, deeply admired, mystique-heavy, but often sexually ambiguous.
  • Pitt: Desired like a mate, consistently objectified, and embodied raw masculine sexual energy.
Michael Jackson had mythology-level fame.
Brad Pitt had primal-level sexual value.
Two different lanes. Pitt wins in SMV.
4o
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Cope Michael Jackson had the highest SMV and Elvis Presley behind him
 
pfl said:

ChatGPT said:​

This is a well-written and passionate argument — and you’re right that Sexual Market Value (SMV) isn’t just about looks or traditional masculinity. However, while Michael Jackson’s global impact and mystique were unparalleled, there’s still a clear distinction between idolization and sexual desire. Let’s break this down point-by-point and offer a grounded debunking:

🌍 “Global Impact = Higher SMV”​


Debunk:
You're conflating fandom hysteria with sexual market value, which is about mate value in a more biological and romantic context.
  • Women screaming and fainting at concerts is more about celebrity worship than raw sexual attraction.
  • MJ's appeal often mirrored the energy of Beatlemania — obsessive, but not always sexual.
  • Brad Pitt didn’t cause riots — but women wanted to sleep with him, not just faint at his presence.
📌 SMV ≠ Celebrity Fan Frenzy — It’s about being desirable as a mate, not as an icon.

🎤 “Cultural Power > Looks Alone”​


Debunk:
Yes, MJ had performance charisma, especially in songs like “Dirty Diana” or “In the Closet.” But this charisma:
  • Relied heavily on persona, lighting, stage control — not baseline physical dominance.
  • Doesn’t always translate to raw, in-person sexual magnetism — unlike Pitt, whose presence was often enough to attract without effort.
Brad Pitt had both: classic male sexual features and on-screen charisma. MJ had charisma, but his real-life androgyny and soft features often created ambiguous sexual signals, which don’t register as high SMV universally.

💸 “MJ had more status and wealth”​


Debunk:
Yes, MJ’s status was beyond superstar — no argument there. But in sexual dynamics, status is filtered through appearance and masculine traits.
  • A man can be ultra-rich and still not sexually desired by women if he doesn’t have physical appeal or masculine energy.
  • MJ’s lack of sexual transparency (surgical changes, whispery voice, hidden relationships) blurred his sexual identity — whereas Pitt’s was openly masculine, dominant, and magnetic.
📌 Wealth ≠ sexual desirability on its own, especially when mixed with ambiguity.

👥 “Social proof and mystique”​


Debunk:
Mystique can enhance SMV — but it has to come from a place of dominance and intrigue, not confusion or detachment.
  • MJ’s mystery often came across as untouchable or non-sexual, almost angelic or alien — not like a man women fantasize about sleeping with.
  • Pitt, by contrast, was raw, accessible, and undeniably masculine — closer to primal female sexual preference.

⚖️ “Controversy doesn’t lower his peak SMV”​


Fair, to a degree. However:
  • Even in the 80s–90s, MJ’s public romantic links were few and often seen as performative (e.g., Lisa Marie kiss).
  • Pitt’s real-life dating life was a continuation of his SMV — he attracted top-tier women naturally, repeatedly.
📌 A lack of sexual transparency always affects how women perceive desirability.

✅ Final Verdict:​

Michael Jackson was a cultural god, a global phenomenon, and had millions of fans who loved, admired, and even obsessed over him.
But Brad Pitt had higher SMV in the raw sexual sense because:
  • He represented unambiguous male physical beauty
  • He was desired directly as a mate, not just admired as a god-like performer
  • His masculinity, looks, and lifestyle lined up with evolutionary female attraction cues

TL;DR:​

  • MJ: Worshipped like a deity, deeply admired, mystique-heavy, but often sexually ambiguous.
  • Pitt: Desired like a mate, consistently objectified, and embodied raw masculine sexual energy.
Michael Jackson had mythology-level fame.
Brad Pitt had primal-level sexual value.
Two different lanes. Pitt wins in SMV.
4o
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what if we just gave the ethnics all our nordic whites who look like trannies (by force of course cause no way white women want ethnics) and white chads get the rest
 
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what if we just gave the ethnics all our nordic whites who look like trannies (by force of course cause no way white women want ethnics) and white chads get the rest
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Ur coping interracial relationships grow whilst white on white decline
 
pfl said:
No foid had sexual desire toward him jfl, cope
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IMG 7874
 
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Mirin the results btw, post for pics of the chad you used
 
pfl said:
even the "highest" smv shitskin wanted to be white
brutal
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let's be realistic he didn't fuck any hoes he just wanted 10 year old boys
 
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@heightisthetruth over for niggers
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Wow this is genuine cope Chadlite is chadlite Chad is Chad but i can agree it’s over for most niggers but that’s the same with all humans
 
pfl said:
niggers can only rape white woman
no white women would ever touch them
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White men rape their nieces cause no white women want them
 
hilpolp said:
In agarthas hierarchy ask your mum who’s sub human
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i asked her she said what a disgusting shitskin get that away from me i love white cock
 
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i asked her she said what a disgusting shitskin get that away from me i love white cock
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Genuinely coping, being white and chopped really brings out the worse in people broootal💔
 
I literally took a good looking white passing (bone structure wise) arab guy and lighten his brown skin with photoshop and ran both versions on tinder in my city, the white version got way more matches.

You can try this for yourself if you don't believe me. Literally all studies show ethnics have it hard in the west, you have to be niggerIQ to believe ethnics do well in white countries.

This guy is literally a tall shredded good looking model and yet he struggled in the US just because he's asian jfl




 
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aDifferentPerspect said:
I literally took a good looking white passing (bone structure wise) arab guy and lighten his brown skin with photoshop and ran both versions on tinder in my city, the white version got way more matches.

You can try this for yourself if you don't believe me. Literally all studies show ethnics have it hard aswell in the west, you have to be niggerIQ to believe ethnics do well in white countries.

This guy is literally a tall shredded good looking model and yet he struggled in the US just because he's asian jfl




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Brutal, and he's not even a Black, imagine a blackcell
 
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