Tinder statts, brutals.

[eduardkoopman]

The claim, that being top 20% guy on Tinder, isn't enough. Sounds correct-ish.

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An example of a 27 yo man.

he swiped yes: 6754 times
matches: 271 times.
Thus 4% match rate.

Of those: 271 matches
He got 7 dates
So 2.5% of the matches lead to date.
And 0.1% of yes swipes lead to a date.

***
Imagine. having to swipe through 1000 women, for 1 date.
Damn, chatting up randoms looks less of a cope by the day, with these Tinder statts.

*****
ALSo!!!!
How much time did it take to get 1 date????

excluding swipe time. this even is.
4 hours of chatting on average with each match.
About 19 matches he needed, for 1 date to happen

19 matches x 4 hours = 76 HOURS.

Basically. It took him on Tinder (excluding swipeing time, and profile setup time): 76 HOURS, to get 1 date.
Is this time effcient dating???

 

[hebbewem]

That sounds way to low he should be able to get more dates

 

[eduardkoopman]

That sounds way to low he should be able to get more dates

I hear that regularly.
But average statts are always really bad i read/see; on how much time it takes to get a date on tinder as a normie guy.

For example:
"Het kost singles gemiddeld genomen 38 uur swipen en chatten om één persoon via een app in levende lijve te ontmoeten. (Bron: Volkskrant, 2017)"
It takes the average person in 2017 (THIS THUS INCUDES WOMEN ALSO!!) 38 hours to get 1 date. So, one can easily guestimate it's like 60 hours for guys, and 16 hours for women in 2017.


****
POINT BEING imo.

if you are not a very sloid HTN, or Chadlite.
Tinder has got to be a time waiste mostly.
Since there should be more TIME effcient ways to get a dates with women as a normie guy.

 

[eduardkoopman]

This is the statts, of an 22 yo FEMALE on Tinder!

LMAO
She only swiped YES on 0.6% of men.

Dman , on Tinder.
it's I guess more like: Be top 1%. And I was coping with that it would be good enough to be a (top 15%) HTN/Chadlite.

 

[eduardkoopman]

 

[eduardkoopman]

 

[n0rthface]

Meeting girls through socialising is way more effective than doing it online. Women get so much validation online that it’s basically like waiting inline for your chance lol

 

[Deleted member 5802]

Tinder purposely does this to keep guys on the app and pay for tinder gold they been caught doing multiple times. Plus there’s an overwhelming percent of women on tinder vs men. The average guy simply needs to go irl to get a girlfriend

 

[faggotchadlite]

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This is the statts, of an 22 yo FEMALE on Tinder!

LMAO
She only swiped YES on 0.6% of men.

Dman , on Tinder.
it's I guess more like: Be top 1%. And I was coping with that it would be good enough to be a (top 15%) HTN/Chadlite.

the fuck?? ,zero dates??

 

[eduardkoopman]

Tinder purposely does this to keep guys on the app and pay for tinder gold they been caught doing multiple times.

doig what? making guys have low success rate?

Plus there’s an overwhelming percent of women on tinder vs men.

i think there is more men on tinder, and men more active also when on there.

The average guy simply needs to go irl to get a girlfriend

true that, looks like it with these tinder statts

 

[Deleted member 14543]

good thread. its absolutely not efficient. how can we make dating as time efficient as possible then?

im thinking just get tinder gold and only swipe on girls that have liked you. then message them all to text your number. the uninterested ones wont text. the more interested ones will.

thoughts?

 

[Deleted member 5802]

doig what? making guys have low success rate?

i think there is more men on tinder, and men more active also when on there.

true that, looks like it with these tinder statts

By purposely keeping men’s profiles invisible and prompting the female profiles so this will encourage more men to pay for tinder

 

[EverythingMattersCel]

good thread. its absolutely not efficient. how can we make dating as time efficient as possible then?

im thinking just get tinder gold and only swipe on girls that have liked you. then message them all to text your number. the uninterested ones wont text. the more interested ones will.

thoughts?

Tinder Gold/Platinum does nothing. You need to actually get the likes in the first place, otherwise, you won't get the opportunities to match.

 

[Deleted member 275]

There aren't more male tinder users than female. I think it's the opposite, because a lot of men realize that tinder is pointless if ur not 5PSL+. More women than men I know IRL have used tinder.

What happens is that men are stuck on that app forever due to 0 success. While women get on there, get 10 dates within a month, get a fwb/bf, and then they're gone.

 

[eduardkoopman]

There aren't more male tinder users than female. I think it's the opposite,

"Tinder hasn’t been officially reporting user number since it has been part of the dating giant, Match.com. Competitors such as Bumble claim that the reason for this is that it would be really bad PR for Tinder as their gender ratio is very unfavorable compared to competitors such as Bumble.

Based on a Statista statistics, almost 80 percent of users are male on Tinder in the United States. "

 

[eduardkoopman]

good thread. its absolutely not efficient.

it's efficient for Chad, I think. for the rest of men, it's likely not. Time wise

how can we make dating as time efficient as possible then?

Some ideas, for an average range looking man:
* activities one frequent: sports, hobbies, etc
* places one goes: shop, market, pool, etc..
* social circle
* parties
* potentially, throug social media like insta. WHEN one has a good profile there, with good updates.

One has to than though, basically get comfortable with talking with strangers, new [eople than alos. On eneeds to be social. And on heas to risk, that a good portion of people, will respond i a way that make it cringe.

im thinking just get tinder gold and only swipe on girls that have liked you.

makes most sense, tbh.
think is, one needs to get likes than. Which I assume is not happening alot for a regualr normie guy

then message them all to text your number. the uninterested ones wont text. the more interested ones will.

I agree. This way, maybe Tinder won't be 100% time wasite for a nromie man. Bu it will likely be giga slow. And the quality, I would not expect much from if aI was a dude

 

[eduardkoopman]

By purposely keeping men’s profiles invisible

the non chad male profiles, they don't show to women because it scares women way? You mean that?

 

[Deleted member 5802]

the non chad male profiles, they don't show to women because it scares women way? You mean that?

Well yes and no it’s to keep men to pay who would they make money if men can easily get the girls they want

 

[Deleted member 275]

"Tinder hasn’t been officially reporting user number since it has been part of the dating giant, Match.com. Competitors such as Bumble claim that the reason for this is that it would be really bad PR for Tinder as their gender ratio is very unfavorable compared to competitors such as Bumble.

Based on a Statista statistics, almost 80 percent of users are male on Tinder in the United States. "

80% of current users maybe. But not 80% of total users.

Meh in the end it's not really different than the average social setting where 80% of people open to dating there are male.

Most women that go to clubs, which are often male-dominated anyways, aren't open to meeting new men. While I am sure the vast majority of men in a given club are open to meeting women.

 

[eduardkoopman]

good thread. its absolutely not efficient. how can we make dating as time efficient as possible then?

im thinking just get tinder gold and only swipe on girls that have liked you. then message them all to text your number. the uninterested ones wont text. the more interested ones will.

thoughts?

Tinder is not a good place. in general. to meet women. As a normie guy. it looks asif one is going to a bar, where 70% of the people are males there, and ALL the males in the bar are mass approaching every woman there trying to get with her.
And a great portion of women, just eing tehre for attention but not with intention for a meetup.

These below statts, seem t tell it ALL

 

[eduardkoopman]

80% of current users maybe. But not 80% of total users.

current plus active users.
i think is the most important statt.

All the inactive ones, are worthless. in practical terms

 

[Deleted member 5786]

@Areuready @PingPong thoughts?

 

[Deleted member 14323]

@Areuready @PingPong thoughts?

Don't care. This doesn't apply to me. I'm 0.0000000000001%.

 

[Carolus]

I deleted all dating apps. They make you suicidal and depressed

 

[Deleted member 5786]

I deleted all dating apps. They make you suicidal and depressed

@PingPong this true?

Pm me your face btw

 

[Deleted member 14323]

@PingPong this true?

Pm me your face btw

probably

 

[eduardkoopman]

Don't care. This doesn't apply to me. I'm 0.0000000000001%.

top or bottom?

 

[Deleted member 14323]

top or bottom?

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[eduardkoopman]

I deleted all dating apps. They make you suicidal and depressed

Like this dude.
HOW ugly must one feel.
When you need to tell 750 women you like her (look), and want to date. For 1 date to happen.

WTF??? Muh 1 in 10 date ratio, from muh pua days way back, sounds so much better than this.
BRUTALS REJECTION rates.

This guys statts are like that: 1 out of 750.

sauce:

 

[Carolus]

@PingPong this true?

Pm me your face btw

My face?

 

[Deleted member 14543]

Tinder Gold/Platinum does nothing. You need to actually get the likes in the first place, otherwise, you won't get the opportunities to match.

pretty sure it gives you boosts which help you get a lot more likes

 

[Areuready]

@Areuready @PingPong thoughts?

Very accurate.

I'm about to post this myself. take a look. https://www.foxla.com/news/man-orde...VB0ZPALvz9yZ80-6VNnl7iyspkdpptdwxRCJAe0ZuBlII

This woman meets with a strange man on tinder. Picks him up. Takes him to taco bell, pays for 100 tacos and then eats them at his dads place. She left after. but the fact you can be good looking and get away with something like that is sucifuel. If i pulled up that woman would scream and run or try to kill me. Fucking insane. """studio"""

 

[Areuready]

@Areuready @PingPong thoughts?

To add a little on...
I had a chance at a tinder date recently. I matched with this girl and we talked and seemed to get along for the most part even though the conversation is like a dry turkey most of the time.
She agree'd to meet up with me but I work like a dog. I have a day job and I also work gig for film and i had a pretty awesome internship. Friday night it was her or the internship so i took the internship to go work on set holding a boom mic. shit was cash.

After that weekend i haven't heard much from her. I had to pick a place to meet and obviously take her out but the thought of meeting with a strange for the sole intent of dating and trying to get her to see me romantically also left a bad taste in my mouth. Also I didn't know where i'd even want to take her. Even when i had the opportunity for a date it just left me nervous and anxious and depressed.

 

[eduardkoopman]

To add a little on...
I had a chance at a tinder date recently. I matched with this girl and we talked and seemed to get along for the most part even though the conversation is like a dry turkey most of the time.
She agree'd to meet up with me but I work like a dog. I have a day job and I also work gig for film and i had a pretty awesome internship. Friday night it was her or the internship so i took the internship to go work on set holding a boom mic. shit was cash.

After that weekend i haven't heard much from her. I had to pick a place to meet and obviously take her out but the thought of meeting with a strange for the sole intent of dating and trying to get her to see me romantically also left a bad taste in my mouth. Also I didn't know where i'd even want to take her. Even when i had the opportunity for a date it just left me nervous and anxious and depressed.

How much time did it take, to get this first date?

 

[Areuready]

How much time did it take, to get this first date?

Less than 12 hours of total convo

 

[fogdart]

@eduardkoopman Rate my tinder stats after less than 2 weeks on there

 

[APJ]

Meeting girls through socialising is way more effective than doing it online. Women get so much validation online that it’s basically like waiting inline for your chance lol

The problems with this are (1) lack of throughput and (2) lack of appropriate context , both of which dating apps solve

Throughput. In a big city, you go to yoga class or whatever and you migjht find 10 women regulars, 4 of which are far too old, 3 more of which aren’t remotely attractive, and of the remaining 3, 1 or 2 of them have boyfriends. You better hope that one girl left likes you because if you’re not, you have to wait around for a while for another option.

Poor context/high risk. But let’s say the throughput is amazing, you have the mogger of all yoga classes with 100 women, 90 of them are single and hot. How do you ask them on a date (with clear romantic intentions)? Sure, you might be able to do some small talk, but even if she seems into you, touches you lightly, laughs at your jokes, she might just be ‘being friendly’. If you misinterpret and ask her out, your rep quickly spreads and you are locked out of social interaction in that class at all. The risks are far too high

 

[eduardkoopman]

@eduardkoopman Rate my tinder stats after less than 2 weeks on there
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Great match rate. Solid chadlite match statts.
Why so low chat percentage?

 

[eduardkoopman]

Throughput. In a big city, you go to yoga class or whatever and you migjht find 10 women regulars, 4 of which are far too old, 3 more of which aren’t remotely attractive, and of the remaining 3, 1 or 2 of them have boyfriends. You better hope that one girl left likes you because if you’re not, you have to wait around for a while for another option.

Correct. imo. Social circles, are in general way to slow, for getting plenty random hookups when single. You need more stream of randoms, to slay or have regular stream of options.

Social circle moggs for finding a good match, or dating a bit out of your league.

Poor context/high risk. But let’s say the throughput is amazing, you have the mogger of all yoga classes with 100 women, 90 of them are single and hot. How do you ask them on a date (with clear romantic intentions)? Sure, you might be able to do some small talk, but even if she seems into you, touches you lightly, laughs at your jokes, she might just be ‘being friendly’. If you misinterpret and ask her out, your rep quickly spreads and you are locked out of social interaction in that class at all. The risks are far too high

Cope.
If you are single, and ask out a woman in the group. And she rejects you. The other single women in the group whom find you attractive, won't all start to find you unattractive.

Only will it dry up all other women maybe. If you ask out a woman, get rejected. And you don't eject yourself from her, and keep trying with her, and don't leave that woman alone.
That's a turn off.
I dude getting rejected, and just taking the L and moving without any trying to change her rejection. Should in general be good.

 

[fogdart]

Great match rate. Solid chadlite match statts.
Why so low chat percentage?

Honestly, I prefer when women message me first. Also, I've been there for less than 2 weeks, met 2 girls for casual sex, meeting another one tomorrow and maybe another one sunday/monday. I just want to build a solid rotation rather than having a bunch of meaningless ONS.

 

[APJ]

Cope.
If you are single, and ask out a woman in the group. And she rejects you. The other single women in the group whom find you attractive, won't all start to find you unattractive.

Only will it dry up all other women maybe. If you ask out a woman, get rejected. And you don't eject yourself from her, and keep trying with her, and don't leave that woman alone.
That's a turn off.
I dude getting rejected, and just taking the L and moving without any trying to change her rejection. Should in general be good.

I’ve seen this happen several times — even if the guy is respectful his status within the group determines whether he’s ‘allowed’ to sexually express himself… if he’s not towards the top of the tree, he gets eaten alive

 

[eduardkoopman]

Honestly, I prefer when women message me first.

Based.
yeah that answers the reason for low message %

Also, I've been there for less than 2 weeks, met 2 girls for casual sex, meeting another one tomorrow and maybe another one sunday/monday. I just want to build a solid rotation rather than having a bunch of meaningless ONS.

 

[Artemis]

That sounds way to low he should be able to get more dates

Yeah, an average Looksmax user gets more dates on Tinder...

Here is the average Looksmax user:

 

[Guba]

I didn't realize how attractive I was until I went on Tinder and then compared my results with all these stats for normie guys lol. I guess this is what you get for not socializing enough and actually gauging your attractiveness in more irl situations.

 

[eduardkoopman]

I didn't realize how attractive I was until I went on Tinder and then compared my results with all these stats for normie guys lol. I guess this is what you get for not socializing enough and actually gauging your attractiveness in more irl situations.

True.
Don't be oblivious to the fact, how ugly most people are.

 

[Guba]

*delete*

 

[Guba]

True.
Don't be oblivious to the fact, how ugly most people are.

It wasn't until more recently that, yeah, I started observing other people more closely. Perhaps not the best or most essential thing to become aware of, but it has certainly been interesting to behold. And it's good to know where you stand and what your own capabilities are.