To help an Arab Incel

Asians are least likely to have colored eyes I’ve noticed. Even most hapas still have dark brown eyes while there are some green eyed mulatto slayers
Yeah, but like I said, I’m not even sure Asians would be an exception to the light eye halo.
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From extremely dark brown, to very light hazel.

I think the only true exception would be albino individuals, or those with pale skin, and pale hair across their entire body (and they should be dying their hair in the first place, unless they want to try to become a high fashion model where those weird characteristics are highly valued).
 
Yeah My whole point is light eyes look better on virtually any person than dark brown eyes.

@TRUE_CEL thinks this isn’t true for white people. Hes wrong.

The only possible exception to this rule would be albino individuals, or maybe some Asians (last one is a big maybe).
Literally does not impact a white male if you change his eye color from brown to blue and vice versa. Edit a celeb and see for yourself.
 
Literally does not impact a white male if you change his eye color from brown to blue and vice versa. Edit a celeb and see for yourself.

Literally retarded. You’re a waste of time.

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he has an insane face width, jaw zygos, insane fwhr

you barely need to morph him, this thread is completely useless
 
he has an insane face width, jaw zygos, insane fwhr

you barely need to morph him, this thread is completely useless
If you think that all that matters is bone mass, you’ve made it clear you know nothing about ratios or harmony.

34 post count :what:
who thinks he’s an aesthetics expert :what:
When he’s clearly not :what:

Begone:what:
 
absolute over the line high iq king, i admire your posts man. i will dm u if i had the money so you can help me in what i need, but in the future. thanks for the thread again fam
 
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If you think that all that matters is bone mass, you’ve made it clear you know nothing about ratios or harmony.

34 post count :what:
who thinks he’s an aesthetics expert :what:
When he’s clearly not :what:

Begone:what:

size > proportions
 
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size > proportions
The man on the left has a far smaller skull, and far less prominent (and thus smaller) facial bones.
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Cry harder
 
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while orb is fucking a disgusting gook in thailand, the other man if fucking adriama lima aka the hottest and most beautiful girl in the world every single day.
Orbs an autist, the other guys an NBA player.

Didn’t know this was statusmax.me

Or maybe you’re just not that bright
 
jfl

marko jaric is literally only known for being Lima's husband, he's a nobody in the NBA


if orb (reminder: orb is 5'9) were to stand next to Chad Marko Jaric we would pass out from too much mogging.

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Yes Gandy is PSL7 so what? He gets humiliated by a big skulled chink, he looks beta, women go for masculine and bigger males. If girls were to chose between these two, he'd stand all alone in the corner while the chinese abomination gets all the chicks in his room.
 
jfl

marko jaric is literally only known for being Lima's husband, he's a nobody in the NBA


if orb (reminder: orb is 5'9) were to stand next to Chad Marko Jaric we would pass out from too much mogging.

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Yes Gandy is PSL7 so what? He gets humiliated by a big skulled chink, he looks beta, women go for masculine and bigger males. If girls were to chose between these two, he'd stand all alone in the corner while the chinese abomination gets all the chicks in his room.
You’re obviously too low IQ to understand my point.

You started by claiming the morphs done to Arab Incel were pointless because “he has good bone mass”.

I said harmony and ratios are more important for facial aesthetics.

You disagreed.

I showed an example of two men who prove you wrong (do a poll in the off topic or rate me section between Orb and Jaric on who’s face is more attractive if you still believe otherwise).

Now we somehow got to which of those two men does better with women, a tall rich NBA player, or some autistic spaz who wasn’t sure if he was gay or not.

This is how stupid you are.

Any new low IQ reply of yours that misses the point, within this thread, will only be replied with a gif of the cute blonde winking.








GABISH?
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You’re obviously too low IQ to understand my point.

You started by claiming the morphs done to Arab Incel were pointless because “he has good bone mass”.

I said harmony and ratios are more important for facial aesthetics.

You disagreed.

I showed an example of two men who prove you wrong (do a poll in the off topic or rate me section between Orb and Jaric on who’s face is more attractive if you still believe otherwise).

Now we somehow got to which of those two men does better with women, a tall rich NBA player, or some autistic spaz who wasn’t sure if he was gay or not.

This is how stupid you are.

Any low IQ reply of yours that misses the point, within this thread, will only be replied with a gif of the cute blonde winking.








GABISH?
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what matters is how you look IRL and how you look like next to others males

not how you look in low quality pictures according to incels


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what matters is how you look IRL and how you look like next to others males

not how you look in low quality pictures according to incels


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JFL if you think I’m incel
And I’ll make sure to use highest quality pictures possibl

The point of this thread was facial aesthetics. So height, body, and frame aren’t relevant here (there’s other useful threads for that).

And ratios and proportions are far better than more bone mass.

Ex: this Jon kortajarena morph, is only morphed to have a narrower IPD and a . He still has better bone projection and skull size than Chico. But Chico undoubtably looks better. Why? Proportions and harmony.
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If your point is that bones > proportions. You’re just wrong.
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JFL if you think I’m incel
And I’ll make sure to use highest quality pictures possibl

The point of this thread was facial aesthetics. So height, body, and frame aren’t relevant here (there’s other useful threads for that).

And ratios and proportions are far better than more bone mass.

Ex: this Jon kortajarena morph, is only morphed to have a narrower IPD and a . He still has better bone projection and skull size than Chico. But Chico undoubtably looks better. Why? Proportions and harmony.
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If your point is that bones > proportions. You’re just wrong.
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Chico's bone mass is pretty much the same, the guy on the left just has his buccinators attrophied (giga hollow cheeks) that give this insane bone mass effect. (i know what i'm talking about, i have no bone mass, i'm melted but due to my hollow cheeks, people think i have a good bone mass in pics)

If Chico looks better than the left one in these pictures it's because he has a better eye area


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But as you can see if we ignore the eye area, the other guy mogs him and chico just looks like a woman with a stubble.

Note that chico's skull is insane, top .5% in temr of skull size. Chico is massive, therefore we would surely mog the other guy who has a smaller skull, smaller bideltoid, and who is shorter than Chico.
 
Chico's bone mass is pretty much the same, the guy on the left just has his buccinators attrophied (giga hollow cheeks) that give this insane bone mass effect. (i know what i'm talking about, i have no bone mass, i'm melted but due to my hollow cheeks, people think i have a good bone mass in pics)

If Chico looks better than the left one in these pictures it's because he has a better eye area


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But as you can see if we ignore the eye area, the other guy mogs him and chico just looks like a woman with a stubble.

Note that chico's skull is insane, top .5% in temr of skull size. Chico is massive, therefore we would surely mog the other guy who has a smaller skull, smaller bideltoid, and who is shorter than Chico.

*Blocks out eye area to argue against the importance of proportions.

**In a thread mainly about addressing Eye Area proprortions (IPD and ES ratio),

*** which he took issue with by saying “bones are more important than these proportions hur durr”

****Only to tacitly in the end agree with me, by trying to remove eye area proportions from the equation:feelskek::feelskek::feelskek:

***** Also forgot to cover their mouths since Jons is disproportionately tiny now, and makes Chico look insanely better, due to, you know, proportions

:feelshaha::feelshaha::feelshaha::feelshaha:
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*Blocks out eye area to argue against the importance of proportions.

**In a thread mainly about addressing Eye Area proprortions (IPD and ES ratio),

*** which he took issue with by saying “bones are more important than these proportions hur durr”

****Only to tacitly in the end agree with me, by trying to remove eye area proportions from the equation:feelskek::feelskek::feelskek:

***** Also forgot to cover their mouths since Jons is disproportionately tiny now, and makes Chico look insanely better, due to, you know, proportions

:feelshaha::feelshaha::feelshaha::feelshaha:
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the point was to prove that in picture, the other guy looks better because he looks bigger.

but chico is better looking is better looking IRL because he is massive
 
the point was to prove that in picture, the other guy looks better because he looks bigger.

but chico is better looking is better looking IRL because he is massive
You’re stupid. The point of this entire thread was over eye area proportions and ratios. If you have @ArabIncel a wider IPD to fit his insanely wide zygos, he’d look better. But since he’s never getting something like an orbital box osteotomy to do that, getting eyebrows that are shaped more spaced out, as well as lateral cheekbone and orbital rim reduction would have the same effect, ratio wise, and it shows aesthetically.

You’d be dead wrong if you said the one on the left looks better. Plain and simple.
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And here’s another example of somebody just today asking if they’d look better with their zygos reduced. The answer is clear.

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For facial aesthetics, Proportions matter more than total volume of bone projection.

Now go read @Senssei ’s IPD and ES ratio thread or something, you nonce.
 
all in all, I am the best morpher on this website.
 
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all in all, I am the best morpher on this website.
I don’t doubt it. You must have morphed yourself with a normal eye area hundreds of times by now :feelshaha:
 
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You’re stupid. The point of this entire thread was over eye area proportions and ratios. If you have @ArabIncel a wider IPD to fit his insanely wide zygos, he’d look better. But since he’s never getting something like an orbital box osteotomy to do that, getting eyebrows that are shaped more spaced out, as well as lateral cheekbone and orbital rim reduction would have the same effect, ratio wise, and it shows aesthetically.

You’d be dead wrong if you said the one on the left looks better. Plain and simple.
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And here’s another example of somebody just today asking if they’d look better with their zygos reduced. The answer is clear.

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For facial aesthetics, Proportions matter more than total volume of bone projection.

Now go read @Senssei ’s IPD and ES ratio thread or something, you nonce.

overall bonemass is the same, less in the zygos, more in the chin.

when bonemass is the same, proportions can tell us which is the best, in this case, on the right he looks better.

but a big skulled ugly man would mog a small guy with good proportions

imagine Shaq next to Justin Bieber, same money, same status, Shaq would mog him to death even if he's "ugly" and Bieber is "handsome"
 
overall bonemass is the same, less in the zygos, more in the chin.

when bonemass is the same, proportions can tell us which is the best, in this case, on the right he looks better.

but a big skulled ugly man would mog a small guy with good proportions

imagine Shaq next to Justin Bieber, same money, same status, Shaq would mog him to death even if he's "ugly" and Bieber is "handsome"
No one in their right mind would ever try to compare someone of Shaq’s size to Bieber

This reply of yours only shows how desperate you are to continue a conversation you’re just cognitively incapable of having.

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shut up bluecel
He’s going to ruin his harmony from 3/4 view (as important as front view) if he shaves down his zygos. His harmony from the front isn’t bad at all, so it’s not worth making such sacrifice. Eyebrowmaxxing should be his main focus cuz it would legit add 0.5 to his psl if not more. If he manages to get his eyebrows to look exactly like the morph @Alarico8 did, that would improve his ipd concern massively!
 
He’s going to ruin his harmony from 3/4 view (as important as front view) if he shaves down his zygos. His harmony from the front isn’t bad at all, so it’s not worth making such sacrifice. Eyebrowmaxxing should be his main focus cuz it would legit add 0.5 to his psl if not more. If he manages to get his eyebrows to look exactly like the morph @Alarico8 did, that would improve his ipd issue greatly!

hey. In that morph Alarico made he actually shaved the zygos as well as made the eyebrows better. That’s why the IPD ended up looking better. Compare that morph to another morph Alarico made of me (in this morph he didn’t shave the zygos). The first pic below compares the original pic to this other morph Alarico made of me. Then after that I’ve attached some other current frontal shots of myself (for better comparison).
 

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He’s going to ruin his harmony from 3/4 view (as important as front view) if he shaves down his zygos. His harmony from the front isn’t bad at all, so it’s not worth making such sacrifice. Eyebrowmaxxing should be his main focus cuz it would legit add 0.5 to his psl if not more. If he manages to get his eyebrows to look exactly like the morph @Alarico8 did, that would improve his ipd concern massively!
I address this in the “Bonus Round” Section of the OP
 
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I address this in the “Bonus Round” Section of the OP
Why is it always you getting into arguments with unbelievably stupid greycels lmao
 
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Why is it always you getting into arguments with unbelievably stupid greycels lmao
Idk man, this last guy wasn’t bad compared to the one claiming Jaric looks better than Orb:ROFLMAO:
 
He’s going to ruin his harmony from 3/4 view (as important as front view) if he shaves down his zygos. His harmony from the front isn’t bad at all, so it’s not worth making such sacrifice. Eyebrowmaxxing should be his main focus cuz it would legit add 0.5 to his psl if not more. If he manages to get his eyebrows to look exactly like the morph @Alarico8 did, that would improve his ipd concern massively!

Harmony cant be measured
 
hey. In that morph Alarico made he actually shaved the zygos as well as made the eyebrows better. That’s why the IPD ended up looking better. Compare that morph to another morph Alarico made of me (in this morph he didn’t shave the zygos). The first pic below compares the original pic to this other morph Alarico made of me. Then after that I’ve attached some other current frontal shots of myself (for better comparison).
You should go hard on eyebrowmaxxing for now cuz legit they’re the most important feature in framing your whole face. If you address this first I genuinely think you could reach a 5 psl
 
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UPDATE
I offered to just reduce @ArabIncel ‘s lateral orbital rims and leave his cheekbones untouched, because I believe that’s where the issue really is.

So using this starting image,
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I went on to:​

  • Reduce his lateral orbital rims,
  • Leave his cheekbones alone,
  • Gave him a wraparound jaw implant that would benefit his proportions,​
  • And gave him a better hairstyle that wouldn’t exaggerate how wide his face is.​

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Then I proceeded to give him better eyebrows and lashes (the lashes aren’t visible due to the darker lighting, affecting the area around his eyes in this photo)
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Prelude
The main points of this post will be to prove that:
  1. A face can indeed be too wide (believe it or not some people disagree).
  2. Increasing your IPD isn’t the only (or even the most preferable) option to address a low ES ratio.
  3. Enhancing your eye area is still criminally undervalued.
Introduction
We all know @ArabIncel , to most of you he’s that towelhead who posts a lot of pictures in threads asking what his ES ratio is. His main issue with his face, is that his upper-middle third is too wide, and the distance between his eyes are too narrow for this width, to have any facial harmony. On top of this, he has little vertical chin projection.


Ive even made fun of the guy’s moon face. And I’m a sweetheart:feelscry:
https://looksmax.org/threads/whats-my-es-ratio.90019/

I’m making this thread to use him as an interesting case study. So here’s his face:
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I want you to remember whatever impression you get from his face, and keep it in mind


Now, to fix an ES ratio
(distance between the pupils divided by Bizygomatic width) that’s too low (his is anywhere between 0.41-0.42), there are two main options:
  1. Increase Your IPD
  2. Decrease your Bizygomatic width
Option 1 is incredibly invasive, and expensive. To date, I only know of 2-3 surgeons who would even do the procedure (an orbital box osteotomy) on a non-deformed patient.

Option 2, however, is much more common. It happens to be less common in the western world than in the orient, but only because westerners don’t usually have faces that are considered too wide, and thus this hasn’t been a big issue for our cultures. The same isn’t true for someone of @ArabIncel ‘s background. Due to globalization, however, there are surgeons in most western countries capable of addressing this issue.

Here are multiple articles from Barry Eppeley’s website describing the kind of procedure needed, specifically, lateral orbital rim shaving, and lateral cheekbone reduction.
https://exploreplasticsurgery.com/category/cheek-reduction/

The Cure
Looking at his picture again,
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There’s a list of things that could “ascend” this guy to like a PSL 6+ if all done together (including rhinoplasty and an eyelid overhaul) but I’m not going to include them all here, instead, I’ll only list the ones that cure his moon face and the ones that will most easily give his face a “halo”.
Cure for Moonface and low ES ratio:​
  • Lateral Orbital Rim Shaving
  • Lateral Cheekbone Reduction
  • Chin Implant (preferably custom)

Easy Halo:
  • Eyebrow enhancement (preferably through nape hair transplant due to Latisse causing orbital fat loss and the possibility of minoxidil causing collagen production damage)
  • Eyelash enhancement (preferably through eyelash transplants, due to Latisse causing periorbital fat loss—if you’d like to know more about latisse, I made a thread about it, and show examples of good eyelash transplants:https://looksmax.org/threads/why-you-should-never-use-latisse.47147/ )
  • Iris color lightening through Stroma or colored contact lenses (here I decided to just make his eyes a very light hazel similar to Will McCann’s , to demonstrate you don’t need ice blue eyes to get an eye area halo, just light ones.)​

Before and After:

Considerations

Three main things to note:
  • In the after, I couldn’t control the fact his hairline raises by a very small degree. This, however, is unimportant. I couldn’t get the hairline height exactly the same, but I was able to get it at either a bit higher, or a bit lower, than the original. In both versions, the difference is negligible and doesn’t add or detract from the transformation.
  • In the after, I couldn’t control the fact that his ears move more inward, by a very small degree. If, after Arab Incel got cheekbone reduction and orbital rim shaving, he felt his ears should be more tapered to his head, then he could get an otoplasty.
  • I didn’t use any sort of ratio to determine the chin height in the after, it could possibly look better with less vertical projection, or with a more “square” shape.
Conclusion
  1. Maximizing your Eye Area is one of the easiest ways to develop a halo. As discriminatory as it may sound, the vast majority of people will look better with any kind of lighter irises, whether they be light hazel, grey, blue, green, any of these will almost always make a face more attractive than dark brown.​
  2. A low ES ratio can be overcome without needing an orbital box osteotomy.
  3. There is such a thing as too wide a face. I got some flak for saying that after seeing nondistorted images of @moggingmachine ’s face, but the truth is, someone with that wide a face could benefit from some form of lateral reduction, as well as lower third vertical augmentation (specifically in the chin.) Just shave those cheekbones man.
  4. I’m not “good” at morphs. This took a lot of time and I did it all on my phone. The app I used is te really good at “augmenting” facial bone structure, but it decreases it well (it’s a beauty app), so it was perfect for someone like @ArabIncel . I’m not going to be doing morphs for anyone else because of how time consuming it is, as well as the fact that I’m limited in what I know how to morph. If i would ever morph anything for anyone moving forward, it would just be adding eyelashes, eye brows, and a lighter colored iris.​
BONUS ROUND
For those who still undervalue eye area, and think strong and harmonious bone development is the most important thing of all,

For those who see @ArabIncel ‘s before and after and think “yeah he just looks better because of his improved proportions, but eye area being the most important thing is just a cope”

For those who feel content with their dark eyes, sparse eyelashes and eyebrows, totally unaware of what they’re missing out on,

This ones for you.

He just needs to remove top wisdom teeth making his cheeks slimmer but some jews will tell otherwise
 
He just needs to remove top wisdom teeth but some jews will tell otherwise
You’re obsessed with removing top wisdoms.
The truth is this is almost certainly cope.
Both my brothers and three of my cousins got theirs removed (from my Dad’s british side JFL) and they ended up with zero difference in cheek hollows, whether they were lean af or just 12-15% bodyfat. Made no difference.
 
You’re obsessed with removing top wisdoms.
The truth is this is almost certainly cope.
Both my brothers and three of my cousins got theirs removed (from my Dad’s british side JFL) and they ended up with zero difference in cheek hollows, whether they were lean af or just 12-15% bodyfat. Made no difference.
its not cope is the biggest looksmax also it only works if they were wide enough to cause bulging cheeks if they are not wide you dont need it and if they grow (almost never do) fine then keep them
 
its not cope is the biggest looksmax also it only works if they were wide enough to cause bulging cheeks if they are not wide you dont need it and if they grow (almost never do) fine then keep them
My Inter molar width is like 40+mm, and I’m planning on getting MSE. Even at 40+mm, there’s no bulging cheeks at all. Getting more zygo and jaw projection would create more cheek hollow, as well as Botox in the buccinator or obicularis oris muscle, or getting cheek lipo (NOT bucal fat removal).
 
My Inter molar width is like 40+mm, and I’m planning on getting MSE. Even at 40+mm, there’s no bulging cheeks at all. Getting more zygo and jaw projection would create more cheek hollow, as well as Botox in the buccinator or obicularis oris muscle, or getting cheek lipo (NOT bucal fat removal).
lol you will look like those block headed chinks
girls prefer man with lean slim face they hate round wide faces becouse they look like baby face
 
lol you will look like those block headed chinks
Cope. MSE also widens the rest of the midface and zygos, not just the palate.
Bark for me you dog.
 
Good post ngl

but you missed his biggest failo
He is brachyfacial. DJS is more important than for psl than your recommendation changes
 
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Prelude
The main points of this post will be to prove that:
  1. A face can indeed be too wide (believe it or not some people disagree).
  2. Increasing your IPD isn’t the only (or even the most preferable) option to address a low ES ratio.
  3. Enhancing your eye area is still criminally undervalued.
Introduction
We all know @ArabIncel , to most of you he’s that towelhead who posts a lot of pictures in threads asking what his ES ratio is. His main issue with his face, is that his upper-middle third is too wide, and the distance between his eyes are too narrow for this width, to have any facial harmony. On top of this, he has little vertical chin projection.


Ive even made fun of the guy’s moon face. And I’m a sweetheart:feelscry:
https://looksmax.org/threads/whats-my-es-ratio.90019/

I’m making this thread to use him as an interesting case study. So here’s his face:
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I want you to remember whatever impression you get from his face, and keep it in mind


Now, to fix an ES ratio
(distance between the pupils divided by Bizygomatic width) that’s too low (his is anywhere between 0.41-0.42), there are two main options:
  1. Increase Your IPD
  2. Decrease your Bizygomatic width
Option 1 is incredibly invasive, and expensive. To date, I only know of 2-3 surgeons who would even do the procedure (an orbital box osteotomy) on a non-deformed patient.

Option 2, however, is much more common. It happens to be less common in the western world than in the orient, but only because westerners don’t usually have faces that are considered too wide, and thus this hasn’t been a big issue for our cultures. The same isn’t true for someone of @ArabIncel ‘s background. Due to globalization, however, there are surgeons in most western countries capable of addressing this issue.

Here are multiple articles from Barry Eppeley’s website describing the kind of procedure needed, specifically, lateral orbital rim shaving, and lateral cheekbone reduction.
https://exploreplasticsurgery.com/category/cheek-reduction/

The Cure
Looking at his picture again,
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There’s a list of things that could “ascend” this guy to like a PSL 6+ if all done together (including rhinoplasty and an eyelid overhaul) but I’m not going to include them all here, instead, I’ll only list the ones that cure his moon face and the ones that will most easily give his face a “halo”.
Cure for Moonface and low ES ratio:​
  • Lateral Orbital Rim Shaving
  • Lateral Cheekbone Reduction
  • Chin Implant (preferably custom)

Easy Halo:
  • Eyebrow enhancement (preferably through nape hair transplant due to Latisse causing orbital fat loss and the possibility of minoxidil causing collagen production damage)
  • Eyelash enhancement (preferably through eyelash transplants, due to Latisse causing periorbital fat loss—if you’d like to know more about latisse, I made a thread about it, and show examples of good eyelash transplants:https://looksmax.org/threads/why-you-should-never-use-latisse.47147/ )
  • Iris color lightening through Stroma or colored contact lenses (here I decided to just make his eyes a very light hazel similar to Will McCann’s , to demonstrate you don’t need ice blue eyes to get an eye area halo, just light ones.)​

Before and After:

Considerations

Three main things to note:
  • In the after, I couldn’t control the fact his hairline raises by a very small degree. This, however, is unimportant. I couldn’t get the hairline height exactly the same, but I was able to get it at either a bit higher, or a bit lower, than the original. In both versions, the difference is negligible and doesn’t add or detract from the transformation.
  • In the after, I couldn’t control the fact that his ears move more inward, by a very small degree. If, after Arab Incel got cheekbone reduction and orbital rim shaving, he felt his ears should be more tapered to his head, then he could get an otoplasty.
  • I didn’t use any sort of ratio to determine the chin height in the after, it could possibly look better with less vertical projection, or with a more “square” shape.
Conclusion
  1. Maximizing your Eye Area is one of the easiest ways to develop a halo. As discriminatory as it may sound, the vast majority of people will look better with any kind of lighter irises, whether they be light hazel, grey, blue, green, any of these will almost always make a face more attractive than dark brown.​
  2. A low ES ratio can be overcome without needing an orbital box osteotomy.
  3. There is such a thing as too wide a face. I got some flak for saying that after seeing nondistorted images of @moggingmachine ’s face, but the truth is, someone with that wide a face could benefit from some form of lateral reduction, as well as lower third vertical augmentation (specifically in the chin.) Just shave those cheekbones man.
  4. I’m not “good” at morphs. This took a lot of time and I did it all on my phone. The app I used is te really good at “augmenting” facial bone structure, but it decreases it well (it’s a beauty app), so it was perfect for someone like @ArabIncel . I’m not going to be doing morphs for anyone else because of how time consuming it is, as well as the fact that I’m limited in what I know how to morph. If i would ever morph anything for anyone moving forward, it would just be adding eyelashes, eye brows, and a lighter colored iris.​
BONUS ROUND
For those who still undervalue eye area, and think strong and harmonious bone development is the most important thing of all,

For those who see @ArabIncel ‘s before and after and think “yeah he just looks better because of his improved proportions, but eye area being the most important thing is just a cope”

For those who feel content with their dark eyes, sparse eyelashes and eyebrows, totally unaware of what they’re missing out on,

This ones for you.

i agree with everything you said excepted the chin you gave to him.
I wouldn't only get a chin implant if i whre him, but actually an implant that would lengthen both my chin and ramus (get more lwoer third height while keeping my gonial angle).
Only lengthening the chin gives him a shitty gonial angle like waluigi jfl.
Yeah arab incel can be a chad i'm so happy for him ❤️.
He needs more philtrum forward growth also.
 
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OBO is worth if your bizygo is 16. Just getting an obo and a bimax and a chin mandible implant (to increase height of your lower third).
OBO is a low risk procedure but according to eppley you will need to do some surgery after to fix the aesthetic drawback from it.
But once everything is done you will be a chad.
Bone shaving won't be as good looking as OBO in my opinion.
I'm sure with your esr ratio you will find a surgeon accepting to perform it on you.
Just ask every surgeons 1 by 1
 
Ol' time, over, time flees and all have left.
 
Idk but his face is extremely punchable
Plus jealous at forward growth
 
I’ll only be shaving about 0.25 inches from each side (so a total of 0.5 inch decrease in the bizygomatic width). I calculated this will increase my ES ratio by 0.03-0.04 which is significant given rn mine is 0.41-0.42. So I’ll be in the 0.44-0.46 range after this, at which point my ES ratio will be exactly ideal pretty much.
Can you actually decrease 0.25 inch from each side? Thats a huge lifefuel but are you certain?
 
Good post ngl

but you missed his biggest failo
He is brachyfacial. DJS is more important than for psl than your recommendation changes
what does brachyfacial does to aesthetic ? and what doing if not recessed?
 

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