To people saying I’m sponsored by Reviv, IM NOT.

[cutecoolnerdboy]

I am not affiliated to reviv AT ALL, I barely even bought mine, like literally 7 days ago, I’m not saying you have to buy a reviv, I just RECOMMEND IT BECAUSE I GOT THIS WHOLE THING FROM KEN LEAVER, THE CREATOR OF REVIV, you can buy a simple flatplane mouthguard that costs 7 bucks like the one I have RIGHT NOW, it doesn’t have to be reviv, I just recommend reviv because the guy literally made the mold himself and he claims it’s lasts a whole year, and the proportions are different, and if it breaks you get a new one, I wore thru my mouthguard in less than than a month, and it lost SO much height from me constantly bitting down on it. Here’s a reply about someone saying I’m somehow lying, even tho I GAIN NOTHING

You can't just make an absurd claim and call valid responses ragebait, this whole thing is a fraud. You are spreading this facade onto gullible children, just delete the thread and rest assured all will be fine.

First of all, how is you just saying “ Lying for literally no reason a lie” a valid response, you literally don’t specify what I could possible be lying about, in what world is this a “valid response” Second of all, how is this whole thing a fraud? If I’m literally telling you, IT DOESNT NEED TO BE REVIV, it can be any mouthguard, that is #1 FLATPLANE and #2 ADDS HEIGHT. The mouthguard im literally using, to this very day costed me 7.88 cents, Here’s the exact one I bought, it costs more now tho. How else am I suppose to show it works, I’m literally sharing photos of my progress, and showing how my teeth are gaining height by uprighting, and you say I’m “spreading this facade onto gullible children” first of all, how do you even come to the conclusion, this is a facade? Because I post about this a lot, if you discovered the cure for cancer, you would post about it non stop. Is that why you call it a facade? Because I post so much it somehow seems like it’s “sponsored” as others like to say it is? I am not affiliated with reviv at all, I’m literally telling people my journey so far doesn’t even include a REVIV in my kit, FORGET REVIV, just buy a flatplane mouthguard that adds height, this isn’t just for “kids” I’m telling you this is for EVERYBODY, ALL AGES, EVERY SINGLE PERSON. I’m not deleting anything dude, I’m not going to limit the truth and my beliefs over some random person claiming I’m somehow lying, when I literally gain NOTHING from this, I’ll rather spend my time doing what ever else, instead of sitting here answering random people, defending my beliefs, for all I care I could’ve just decided to ignore you and everybody else that says this is a lie, but I don’t, because I BELIEVE, and have experienced the PROOF my self. I hope this refuted your claim

 

[Afrab]

You gotta split up your paragraphs man you seem schizophrenic

 

[cutecoolnerdboy]

Nah, you can read it fine.

You gotta split up your paragraphs man you seem schizophrenic

 

[Afrab]

First of all, how is you just saying “ Lying for literally no reason a lie” a valid response, you literally don’t specify what I could possible be lying about, in what world is this a “valid response” Second of all, how is this whole thing a fraud? If I’m literally telling you, IT DOESNT NEED TO BE REVIV, it can be any mouthguard, that is #1 FLATPLANE and #2 ADDS HEIGHT. The mouthguard im literally using, to this very day costed me 7.88 cents, Here’s the exact one I bought, it costs more now tho. How else am I suppose to show it works, I’m literally sharing photos of my progress, and showing how my teeth are gaining height by uprighting, and you say I’m “spreading this facade onto gullible children” first of all, how do you even come to the conclusion, this is a facade? Because I post about this a lot, if you discovered the cure for cancer, you would post about it non stop. Is that why you call it a facade? Because I post so much it somehow seems like it’s “sponsored” as others like to say it is? I am not affiliated with reviv at all, I’m literally telling people my journey so far doesn’t even include a REVIV in my kit, FORGET REVIV, just buy a flatplane mouthguard that adds height, this isn’t just for “kids” I’m telling you this is for EVERYBODY, ALL AGES, EVERY SINGLE PERSON. I’m not deleting anything dude, I’m not going to limit the truth and my beliefs over some random person claiming I’m somehow lying, when I literally gain NOTHING from this, I’ll rather spend my time doing what ever else, instead of sitting here answering random people, defending my beliefs, for all I care I could’ve just decided to ignore you and everybody else that says this is a lie, but I don’t, because I BELIEVE, and have experienced the PROOF my self. I hope this refuted your claim

 

[cutecoolnerdboy]

First of all, how is you just saying “ Lying for literally no reason a lie” a valid response, you literally don’t specify what I could possible be lying about, in what world is this a “valid response” Second of all, how is this whole thing a fraud? If I’m literally telling you, IT DOESNT NEED TO BE REVIV, it can be any mouthguard, that is #1 FLATPLANE and #2 ADDS HEIGHT. The mouthguard im literally using, to this very day costed me 7.88 cents, Here’s the exact one I bought, it costs more now tho. How else am I suppose to show it works, I’m literally sharing photos of my progress, and showing how my teeth are gaining height by uprighting, and you say I’m “spreading this facade onto gullible children” first of all, how do you even come to the conclusion, this is a facade? Because I post about this a lot, if you discovered the cure for cancer, you would post about it non stop. Is that why you call it a facade? Because I post so much it somehow seems like it’s “sponsored” as others like to say it is? I am not affiliated with reviv at all, I’m literally telling people my journey so far doesn’t even include a REVIV in my kit, FORGET REVIV, just buy a flatplane mouthguard that adds height, this isn’t just for “kids” I’m telling you this is for EVERYBODY, ALL AGES, EVERY SINGLE PERSON. I’m not deleting anything dude, I’m not going to limit the truth and my beliefs over some random person claiming I’m somehow lying, when I literally gain NOTHING from this, I’ll rather spend my time doing what ever else, instead of sitting here answering random people, defending my beliefs, for all I care I could’ve just decided to ignore you and everybody else that says this is a lie, but I don’t, because I BELIEVE, and have experienced the PROOF my self. I hope this refuted your claim

Bravo you can copy and paste

 

[Afrab]

Bravo you can copy and paste

I just wanted you to see from my perspective that no one is reading that slop

 

[diditeverbegin]

You gotta split up your paragraphs man you seem schizophrenic

Yeah please split it up

 

[cutecoolnerdboy]

I just wanted you to see from my perspective that no one is reading that slop

How would that change anybody’s perspective, we both see the same thing man, you see the exact text I see, but anyways you really want it split up, you could’ve simply asked chat gpt, im sure ur well versed in it, but since you can’t read words because it doesn’t look pretty, I doubt you would take time out of ur day to copy and paste this into chat GPT instead of here, so i did it for you.

1. Questioning the Accusation:
First of all, how is you just saying “Lying for literally no reason” a valid response?
You literally don’t specify what I could possibly be lying about.
In what world is this considered a “valid response”?

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2. Addressing Claims of Fraud:
Second of all, how is this whole thing a fraud?
I’m literally telling you — IT DOESN’T NEED TO BE REVIV.
It can be any mouthguard, as long as it is:

• #1: A flatplane
• #2: Adds height

The mouthguard I’m literally using to this very day cost me $7.88.
Here’s the exact one I bought (it costs more now, though).

---

3. On Showing Proof:
How else am I supposed to show it works?
I’m literally sharing photos of my progress and showing how my teeth are gaining height by uprighting.
And yet, you say I’m “spreading this facade onto gullible children.”

---

4. Challenging the “Facade” Accusation:
First of all — how do you even come to the conclusion that this is a facade?
Is it because I post about this a lot?

If you discovered the cure for cancer, you would post about it non-stop.
Is that why you call it a facade?
Because I post so much it somehow seems like it’s “sponsored,” as others like to say?

---

5. Clarifying My Intentions:
I am not affiliated with Reviv at all.
I’m literally telling people my journey so far doesn’t even include a Reviv in my kit.

FORGET REVIV.
Just buy a flatplane mouthguard that adds height.

This isn’t just for “kids.”
I’m telling you this is for EVERYBODY — ALL AGES — EVERY SINGLE PERSON.

---

6. Standing My Ground:
I’m not deleting anything, dude.
I’m not going to limit the truth and my beliefs because some random person claims I’m somehow lying.
I literally gain NOTHING from this.

I could be spending my time doing whatever else instead of answering random people and defending my beliefs.
But I don’t — because I BELIEVE and have experienced the PROOF myself.

---

7. Final Statement:
I hope this refuted your claim.

 

[cutecoolnerdboy]

Yeah please split it up

1. Questioning the Accusation:
First of all, how is you just saying “Lying for literally no reason” a valid response?
You literally don’t specify what I could possibly be lying about.
In what world is this considered a “valid response”?

---

2. Addressing Claims of Fraud:
Second of all, how is this whole thing a fraud?
I’m literally telling you — IT DOESN’T NEED TO BE REVIV.
It can be any mouthguard, as long as it is:

• #1: A flatplane
• #2: Adds height

The mouthguard I’m literally using to this very day cost me $7.88.
Here’s the exact one I bought (it costs more now, though).

---

3. On Showing Proof:
How else am I supposed to show it works?
I’m literally sharing photos of my progress and showing how my teeth are gaining height by uprighting.
And yet, you say I’m “spreading this facade onto gullible children.”

---

4. Challenging the “Facade” Accusation:
First of all — how do you even come to the conclusion that this is a facade?
Is it because I post about this a lot?

If you discovered the cure for cancer, you would post about it non-stop.
Is that why you call it a facade?
Because I post so much it somehow seems like it’s “sponsored,” as others like to say?

---

5. Clarifying My Intentions:
I am not affiliated with Reviv at all.
I’m literally telling people my journey so far doesn’t even include a Reviv in my kit.

FORGET REVIV.
Just buy a flatplane mouthguard that adds height.

This isn’t just for “kids.”
I’m telling you this is for EVERYBODY — ALL AGES — EVERY SINGLE PERSON.

---

6. Standing My Ground:
I’m not deleting anything, dude.
I’m not going to limit the truth and my beliefs because some random person claims I’m somehow lying.
I literally gain NOTHING from this.

I could be spending my time doing whatever else instead of answering random people and defending my beliefs.
But I don’t — because I BELIEVE and have experienced the PROOF myself.

---

7. Final Statement:
I hope this refuted your claim.

 

[Dot1]

dnr, obv paid advertisement

 

[cutecoolnerdboy]

dnr, obv paid advertisement

Hahahah

 

[cutecoolnerdboy]

I just wanted you to see from my perspective that no one is reading that slop

Also did the other one, since you can’t take time out of ur day to read it like a normal person
1. On Scientific Data and Suppression:
Before you read my response — even if there was “scientific data,” do you honestly think they would ever research something they don’t want getting out there?

How would they even capitalize on this?
Why would there ever be data on something that could crumble the economy?
This would literally destroy the entire world as we know it.

At most, a product like this would bring in a couple thousand dollars — like Myobrace — and that’s it.
No one wants to fund something that could collapse everything.

---

2. On Ken Leaver’s Teachings:
You’re free to look into what Ken Leaver has said about this.

I’ve been part of his community page for a while (on another account). My free trial ended, so I made a new one, which is why my Skool profiles don’t match.
Here’s a link where I compiled all his videos and writings:
https://www.skool.com/reviv-2885/all-of-kens-teachings

To summarize:
Ken basically said that structural collapse leads to all major issues with the human body — yes, even cancer.
He refers to this whole area as biomechanics.
Again, you’re right — there is no scientific data.
But you have to think critically about why that is.

---

3. Responding to Afrab’s Comment:
Afrab said:

Calling something a “facade” or “fraud” isn’t about accusing you of being malicious. It’s about pointing out that a method lacking scientific validation being presented as a universal solution can be harmful. It’s also not about whether the mouthguard is from REVIV or Amazon — it’s about the medical claims being made without formal backing or professional oversight.
You’re free to share your experience. But others are just as free to question it, especially if it touches on medical claims or encourages others to self-treat without consulting professionals. That’s not censorship — that’s critical thinking.

And then they said:

"I'm not clicking on that IP grabber, just send a screenshot of it."

---

4. Acknowledging and Clarifying:
See — you should’ve said it this way earlier on, and you’re right.
There isn’t any scientific data to back this.
I was skeptical myself in the beginning too, so I can’t refute that point.
I completely understand where you're coming from now.

---

5. Standing Against Dismissiveness:
But to say I’m lying just because there’s no “scientific data” about something so recent?
That’s not the right way to go about it either.

Like I said — I get your point, and I’ll never be able to say, “Here’s the data.”
But at the same time, I don’t appreciate being called a liar simply because there’s no study yet — or no “professional oversight.”

Honestly, your earlier response came off like ChatGPT, especially with the “professional oversight” wording.

---

6. Final Thoughts:
Again, you’re free to look at what Ken Leaver has said — I compiled everything he’s shared and it’s right there.

So, kudos to you for questioning all of this — I actually respect that.
But please — don’t just dismiss it as a “lie.”

And yes, I genuinely believe this could help everybody — the entire world.

 

[Afrab]

Also did the other one, since you can’t take time out of ur day to read it like a normal person
1. On Scientific Data and Suppression:
Before you read my response — even if there was “scientific data,” do you honestly think they would ever research something they don’t want getting out there?

How would they even capitalize on this?
Why would there ever be data on something that could crumble the economy?
This would literally destroy the entire world as we know it.

At most, a product like this would bring in a couple thousand dollars — like Myobrace — and that’s it.
No one wants to fund something that could collapse everything.

---

2. On Ken Leaver’s Teachings:
You’re free to look into what Ken Leaver has said about this.

I’ve been part of his community page for a while (on another account). My free trial ended, so I made a new one, which is why my Skool profiles don’t match.
Here’s a link where I compiled all his videos and writings:
https://www.skool.com/reviv-2885/all-of-kens-teachings

To summarize:
Ken basically said that structural collapse leads to all major issues with the human body — yes, even cancer.
He refers to this whole area as biomechanics.
Again, you’re right — there is no scientific data.
But you have to think critically about why that is.

---

3. Responding to Afrab’s Comment:
Afrab said:


And then they said:

---

4. Acknowledging and Clarifying:
See — you should’ve said it this way earlier on, and you’re right.
There isn’t any scientific data to back this.
I was skeptical myself in the beginning too, so I can’t refute that point.
I completely understand where you're coming from now.

---

5. Standing Against Dismissiveness:
But to say I’m lying just because there’s no “scientific data” about something so recent?
That’s not the right way to go about it either.

Like I said — I get your point, and I’ll never be able to say, “Here’s the data.”
But at the same time, I don’t appreciate being called a liar simply because there’s no study yet — or no “professional oversight.”

Honestly, your earlier response came off like ChatGPT, especially with the “professional oversight” wording.

---

6. Final Thoughts:
Again, you’re free to look at what Ken Leaver has said — I compiled everything he’s shared and it’s right there.

So, kudos to you for questioning all of this — I actually respect that.
But please — don’t just dismiss it as a “lie.”

And yes, I genuinely believe this could help everybody — the entire world.

1. On Scientific Data and Suppression​

It’s not that people are blindly trusting institutions or dismissing alternative ideas out of malice — it’s that without rigorous, peer-reviewed evidence, we can’t responsibly make broad medical claims. The claim that something is being "suppressed" needs just as much evidence as the thing being suppressed. Otherwise, we fall into a slippery slope where anything can be justified by the idea that it’s being “hidden.”


It’s not that the lack of research proves the idea wrong — it just means we can't responsibly promote it as truth yet. Belief alone doesn’t equate to evidence.

2. On Ken Leaver​

Ken’s perspective might be intriguing, and it’s fine to explore ideas — but calling biomechanics the root of every issue, including something as multifactorial as cancer, without clinical backing, is dangerous.


Alternative health ideas often start as speculation — but speculation isn't the same as established knowledge. Until it passes through testing and replication, it remains a theory — not a solution the world is refusing to accept.

3. On Afrab’s Comment​

Afrab wasn’t being dismissive — they were advocating for discernment. Medical claims that bypass oversight can easily cross into misinformation, even if the intent isn’t malicious. Wanting proof before people self-treat with something that affects their body structure or nervous system isn’t “censorship.” It’s responsibility.


Also — calling a link an “IP grabber” is internet-speak for not trusting unfamiliar sources. People have a right to be cautious, especially when unknown tools or accounts are involved. That’s not disrespect — that’s self-protection.

4. On Clarification and Respect​

Appreciate your honesty in admitting there’s no solid data. That’s an important step. But you can’t have it both ways — saying there’s no data and making sweeping claims that this will “help everyone” undermines your own acknowledgment.


Anecdotes are valid as personal experiences — but they can’t be used to promote something as a cure or universal truth without inviting critique.

 

[cutecoolnerdboy]

1. On Scientific Data and Suppression​

It’s not that people are blindly trusting institutions or dismissing alternative ideas out of malice — it’s that without rigorous, peer-reviewed evidence, we can’t responsibly make broad medical claims. The claim that something is being "suppressed" needs just as much evidence as the thing being suppressed. Otherwise, we fall into a slippery slope where anything can be justified by the idea that it’s being “hidden.”


It’s not that the lack of research proves the idea wrong — it just means we can't responsibly promote it as truth yet. Belief alone doesn’t equate to evidence.

2. On Ken Leaver​

Ken’s perspective might be intriguing, and it’s fine to explore ideas — but calling biomechanics the root of every issue, including something as multifactorial as cancer, without clinical backing, is dangerous.


Alternative health ideas often start as speculation — but speculation isn't the same as established knowledge. Until it passes through testing and replication, it remains a theory — not a solution the world is refusing to accept.

3. On Afrab’s Comment​

Afrab wasn’t being dismissive — they were advocating for discernment. Medical claims that bypass oversight can easily cross into misinformation, even if the intent isn’t malicious. Wanting proof before people self-treat with something that affects their body structure or nervous system isn’t “censorship.” It’s responsibility.


Also — calling a link an “IP grabber” is internet-speak for not trusting unfamiliar sources. People have a right to be cautious, especially when unknown tools or accounts are involved. That’s not disrespect — that’s self-protection.

4. On Clarification and Respect​

Appreciate your honesty in admitting there’s no solid data. That’s an important step. But you can’t have it both ways — saying there’s no data and making sweeping claims that this will “help everyone” undermines your own acknowledgment.


Anecdotes are valid as personal experiences — but they can’t be used to promote something as a cure or universal truth without inviting critique.

Alright bro, it’s one thing to summarize one thing to use chat gpt to dismiss the whole thing, playing this game you could tell it to do anything and it will, even if it means dismissing how it’s an ai low
Low effort response just a simple ChatGPT response, not gonna talk to someone with no critical thinking skills that relies on gpt

 

[cutecoolnerdboy]

Let’s ignore the fact, you had 0 involvement in this, and just copied and pasted into chat gpt, (I guess you can called that being involved)

if you don’t want to buy reviv, that’s fine, Buy a mouthguard of Temu, like I did for 8 bucks, if you don’t wanna try this out, that’s fine. To call it a lie just because there’s no data, is just wrong, but what ever brah, if you don’t wanna do it don’t do it, it’s not my decision.

There’s literally no risks, the only issue I see someone having is that it gives a posterior open bite as curve of spee rises, if you think this is dangerous, just let it close. I’m not forcing anybody to do this, but I believe if anybody does, it will benefit them greatly, I’ll leave it at this.

I don’t see the point in pursuing a discussion that isn’t beneficial to either side. Have a nice day, and God bless you.

Alright bro, it’s one thing to summarize one thing to use chat gpt to dismiss the whole thing, playing this game you could tell it to do anything and it will, even if it means dismissing how it’s an ai low
Low effort response just a simple ChatGPT response, not gonna talk to someone with no critical thinking skills that relies on gpt

 

[Iraniancel]

stfu

 

[¿Nero]

Also did the other one, since you can’t take time out of ur day to read it like a normal person
1. On Scientific Data and Suppression:
Before you read my response — even if there was “scientific data,” do you honestly think they would ever research something they don’t want getting out there?

How would they even capitalize on this?
Why would there ever be data on something that could crumble the economy?
This would literally destroy the entire world as we know it.

At most, a product like this would bring in a couple thousand dollars — like Myobrace — and that’s it.
No one wants to fund something that could collapse everything.

---

2. On Ken Leaver’s Teachings:
You’re free to look into what Ken Leaver has said about this.

I’ve been part of his community page for a while (on another account). My free trial ended, so I made a new one, which is why my Skool profiles don’t match.
Here’s a link where I compiled all his videos and writings:
https://www.skool.com/reviv-2885/all-of-kens-teachings

To summarize:
Ken basically said that structural collapse leads to all major issues with the human body — yes, even cancer.
He refers to this whole area as biomechanics.
Again, you’re right — there is no scientific data.
But you have to think critically about why that is.

---

3. Responding to Afrab’s Comment:
Afrab said:


And then they said:

---

4. Acknowledging and Clarifying:
See — you should’ve said it this way earlier on, and you’re right.
There isn’t any scientific data to back this.
I was skeptical myself in the beginning too, so I can’t refute that point.
I completely understand where you're coming from now.

---

5. Standing Against Dismissiveness:
But to say I’m lying just because there’s no “scientific data” about something so recent?
That’s not the right way to go about it either.

Like I said — I get your point, and I’ll never be able to say, “Here’s the data.”
But at the same time, I don’t appreciate being called a liar simply because there’s no study yet — or no “professional oversight.”

Honestly, your earlier response came off like ChatGPT, especially with the “professional oversight” wording.

---

6. Final Thoughts:
Again, you’re free to look at what Ken Leaver has said — I compiled everything he’s shared and it’s right there.

So, kudos to you for questioning all of this — I actually respect that.
But please — don’t just dismiss it as a “lie.”

And yes, I genuinely believe this could help everybody — the entire world.

I actually find it hard to believe that a simple mouth guard can change face shape that drastically, especially since it doesn’t seem to apply pressure like other devices RME devices. Ken also says that the changes come from soft tissue rather than bone growth/movement wich is very weird. On the other side @cutecoolnerdboy doesn’t get any money from this. He shows very promising results and evaluating risks and benefits it’s really laughable (pros: Facial change, better jaw etc. negatives: you lose 7$). I messaged coolnerdyboy privately and he doesn’t seem to be a scammer or anything.My opinion: If you have 7$ dollars to spare it’s not too bad of an investment.

Edit: I already mentioned this but he can’t get paid for this since he’s telling people to buy off Temu and isn’t revive affiliated