Top 5 Best and Worst PEDs

[Lonely]

Best:

1. Test
2. NPP/ Deca
3. EQ/ Primo/ Mast
4. Retatrutide/ Metformin/ Tirzepatide
5. GH/ Insulin

Worst:

1. DNP
2. Tren/ MENT/ DHB/ any exotic steroid
3. Semaglutide/Ozempic
4. Any oral
5. Any SARM

The reason the best are that is because they have the best ratio of benefits:side effects and do things nothing else can do

The reason the worst are there is because they’re overrated, dangerous and/or have a poor benefit:side effect ratio

Just use the first five and you can achieve everything

 

[1966Ford]

Thank you, MesoRX user

 

[Lonely]

Thank you, MesoRX user

Love you Bhai

 

[molecule010]

what is best ROI to add to my test+hgh+ai cycle to put on size?

 

[Lonely]

what is best ROI to add to my test+hgh+ai cycle to put on size?

More cardio and more carbs
EQ or Mast
Then a little NPP
Insulin

In that order

 

[molecule010]

More cardio and more carbs
EQ or Mast
Then a little NPP
Insulin

In that order

wanna keep it simple for my first cycle, only adding 1 more compound max, either eq or mast i think mast as i want the high dht effects (im in puberty) even though eq mogs for muscle gain, ive heard mast gives pretty negligible gains is that true?

 

[Lonely]

wanna keep it simple for my first cycle, only adding 1 more compound max, either eq or mast i think mast as i want the high dht effects (im in puberty) even though eq mogs for muscle gain, ive heard mast gives pretty negligible gains is that true?

It depends. Most people run Mast on deficits deep in cuts, so they’re not gonna see many gains.

On a bulk/ mass gaining phase when you’re in a surplus Mast definitely leads to gains, but it’s not as anabolic as Primo or EQ

 

[Lonely]

It depends. Most people run Mast on deficits deep in cuts, so they’re not gonna see many gains.

On a bulk/ mass gaining phase when you’re in a surplus Mast definitely leads to gains, but it’s not as anabolic as Primo or EQ

But just add EQ at 1/2 of your Test dose.

 

[Ergogenic]

Best:

1. Test
2. NPP/ Deca
3. EQ/ Primo/ Mast
4. Retatrutide/ Metformin/ Tirzepatide
5. GH/ Insulin

Worst:

1. DNP
2. Tren/ MENT/ DHB/ any exotic steroid
3. Semaglutide/Ozempic
4. Any oral
5. Any SARM

The reason the best are that is because they have the best ratio of benefits:side effects and do things nothing else can do

The reason the worst are there is because they’re overrated, dangerous and/or have a poor benefit:side effect ratio

Just use the first five and you can achieve everything

You could replace the "PEDs" in your title with "compounds" or just "drugs".

According to the definition of performance enhancing drug, 2,4-Dinitrophenol is not a performance enhancing drug; it only worsens performance and oxidative stress while being used.

You wrote "any oral" in top 5 worst. This is not specific, and it opens room for plenty of good compounds / drugs, such as sildenfail and tafalafil.

 

[Lonely]

You could replace the "PEDs" in your title with "compounds" or just "drugs".

According to the definition of performance enhancing drug, 2,4-Dinitrophenol is not a performance enhancing drug; it only worsens performance and oxidative stress while being used.

You wrote "any oral" in top 5 worst. This is not specific, and it opens room for plenty of good compounds / drugs, such as sildenfail and tafalafil.

This is the most Redditor tier response I’ve ever read

 

[Sub5kang]

Best:

1. Test
2. NPP/ Deca
3. EQ/ Primo/ Mast
4. Retatrutide/ Metformin/ Tirzepatide
5. GH/ Insulin

Worst:

1. DNP
2. Tren/ MENT/ DHB/ any exotic steroid
3. Semaglutide/Ozempic
4. Any oral
5. Any SARM

The reason the best are that is because they have the best ratio of benefits:side effects and do things nothing else can do

The reason the worst are there is because they’re overrated, dangerous and/or have a poor benefit:side effect ratio

Just use the first five and you can achieve everything

I'm on GH and reta
Take off list as I am lifelong natty and they aren't PEDs

 

[Lonely]

I'm on GH and reta
Take off list as I am lifelong natty and they aren't PEDs

Cope

Might as well take a gram of Test

 

[Sub5kang]

Cope

Might as well take a gram of Test

I was actually thinking of starting 300 test but I'm scared of losing my hair
I was being sarcastic if you couldn't tell

 

[Lonely]

I was actually thinking of starting 300 test but I'm scared of losing my hair
I was being sarcastic if you couldn't tell

You won’t lose hair ngl

 

[Ergogenic]

This is the most Redditor tier response I’ve ever read

I do not know what is meant by this. You completely disregarded my factual response with your response.

 

[susisesi]

Never rank again

 

[Sub5kang]

You won’t lose hair ngl

You completely sure?
Idm try for the rest of my life as I plan on reta for the rest of my life anyways what's just another weekly injection
However it is paramount that I don't get on fin or dut at all and that's the only reason I'm not on test rn. How are you so positive that test won't affect hair

 

[Lonely]

I do not know what is meant by this. You completely disregarded my factual response with your response.

 

[Lonely]

You completely sure?
Idm try for the rest of my life as I plan on reta for the rest of my life anyways what's just another weekly injection
However it is paramount that I don't get on fin or dut at all and that's the only reason I'm not on test rn. How are you so positive that test won't affect hair

Because it doesn’t cause hair loss

Just makes the inevitable faster

So either you were gonna lose it and have lost it a little earlier

Or you weren’t gonna lose any and you don’t feel nothing

 

[Ergogenic]

Thank you.

 

[molecule010]

It depends. Most people run Mast on deficits deep in cuts, so they’re not gonna see many gains.

On a bulk/ mass gaining phase when you’re in a surplus Mast definitely leads to gains, but it’s not as anabolic as Primo or EQ

i know you said orals are bad but what are your thoughts on anadrol? i want something highly androgenic and pretty anabolic (besides tren lol)

 

[Lonely]

i know you said orals are bad but what are your thoughts on anadrol? i want something highly androgenic and pretty anabolic (besides tren lol)

It’s okay

probably the best oral out there

 

[non omnis moriar]

Best:

1. Test
2. NPP/ Deca
3. EQ/ Primo/ Mast
4. Retatrutide/ Metformin/ Tirzepatide
5. GH/ Insulin

Worst:

1. DNP
2. Tren/ MENT/ DHB/ any exotic steroid
3. Semaglutide/Ozempic
4. Any oral
5. Any SARM

The reason the best are that is because they have the best ratio of benefits:side effects and do things nothing else can do

The reason the worst are there is because they’re overrated, dangerous and/or have a poor benefit:side effect ratio

Just use the first five and you can achieve everything

Tren solo all this shit

 

[liltristennnn]

Best:

1. Test
2. NPP/ Deca
3. EQ/ Primo/ Mast
4. Retatrutide/ Metformin/ Tirzepatide
5. GH/ Insulin

Worst:

1. DNP
2. Tren/ MENT/ DHB/ any exotic steroid
3. Semaglutide/Ozempic
4. Any oral
5. Any SARM

The reason the best are that is because they have the best ratio of benefits:side effects and do things nothing else can do

The reason the worst are there is because they’re overrated, dangerous and/or have a poor benefit:side effect ratio

Just use the first five and you can achieve everything

are sarms rlly that bad? i was considering rad140 but i assume running a test base is the only 100% safe way to not crush your test levels but im not trynna hop on any roids yet

 

[Lonely]

are sarms rlly that bad? i was considering rad140 but i assume running a test base is the only 100% safe way to not crush your test levels but im not trynna hop on any roids yet

Bad in what sense?

 

[liltristennnn]

Bad in what sense?

in terms of side effects, specifically rad140

 

[Lonely]

in terms of side effects, specifically rad140

It varies from person to person

I don’t think it’s super harmful

But the benefits:side effects ratio sucks

 

[liltristennnn]

It varies from person to person

I don’t think it’s super harmful

But the benefits:side effects ratio sucks

yeahhh idk im going to hop on test soon i just need a source. what else do you think i should run w test as someone who’s already naturally significantly lean and wants to minimize side effects by using something like an aromatase inhibitor. i also dont think if i hop on test i will be hopping off, just high dosage cycles w average dose trt in between

 

[Lonely]

yeahhh idk im going to hop on test soon i just need a source. what else do you think i should run w test as someone who’s already naturally significantly lean and wants to minimize side effects by using something like an aromatase inhibitor. i also dont think if i hop on test i will be hopping off, just high dosage cycles w average dose trt in between

For your first time, just Test. If you’re lean you won’t aromatise much.

If you really want to add something, use EQ or Mast at 30-40% of the dosage of Test

Maybe Anavar at 25-50mg during the last 4 weeks of your blast

Hard to fuck up with this

 

[liltristennnn]

For your first time, just Test. If you’re lean you won’t aromatise much.

If you really want to add something, use EQ or Mast at 30-40% of the dosage of Test

Maybe Anavar at 25-50mg during the last 4 weeks of your blast

Hard to fuck up with this

yeah im about to get payed for this job soon and im gonna buy some. you got valid source or you gatekeeping

 

[Lonely]

yeah im about to get payed for this job soon and im gonna buy some. you got valid source or you gatekeeping

Depends heavily on your country, idk where you live

 

[liltristennnn]

Depends heavily on your country, idk where you live

USA my g

 

[Lonely]

USA my g

Sorry, no clue, I’m in Europe

 

[liltristennnn]

Depends heavily on your country, idk where you live

ik this is a stupid ass question but do you reconstitute testosterone or just take it straight up however it comes

 

[Lonely]

ik this is a stupid ass question but do you reconstitute testosterone or just take it straight up however it comes

It’s not a peptide, you just take it straight up, ideally after warming the vial and then storing it in a cool, dry, lightless place

 

[gynogod]

why do you think orals are trash?

 

[Lonely]

why do you think orals are trash?

Limited muscle gain and lots of metabolic and organ stress.

Almost all bodybuilders exclusively use orals during contest prep or the last few weeks of their massing phases.

They’re useful for plateau busting, cosmetic enhancement or niche benefits at certain times.

Not useful for gaining a lot of muscle over a long period of time.

That being said, low dose Orals won’t do you much harm, but won’t bring many benefits either.

 

[gynogod]

Limited muscle gain and lots of metabolic and organ stress.

Almost all bodybuilders exclusively use orals during contest prep or the last few weeks of their massing phases.

They’re useful for plateau busting, cosmetic enhancement or niche benefits at certain times.

Not useful for gaining a lot of muscle over a long period of time.

That being said, low dose Orals won’t do you much harm, but won’t bring many benefits either.

bhai i am gonna get gyno surgery soon could i start a test cycle after like 12 weeks? i would try to monitor my e2 levels and use aromasin i dont know much about steriods i just started searching about it and i saw that anavar is relatively very safe to take over long periods of time and it does not destroy your collagen so i was thinking of adding that to my first cycle but is it really just garbage? well i will need to research alot more before deciding anyways

 

[Lonely]

bhai i am gonna get gyno surgery soon could i start a test cycle after like 12 weeks? i would try to monitor my e2 levels and use aromasin i dont know much about steriods i just started searching about it and i saw that anavar is relatively very safe to take over long periods of time and it does not destroy your collagen so i was thinking of adding that to my first cycle but is it really just garbage? well i will need to research alot more before deciding anyways

If you’re going to get Gyno surgery I’d recommend running as many wet compounds as you can handle without destroying your BP, and eating in a caloric surplus

Grow your gyno out

Roids BEFORE the surgery

 

[molecule010]

More cardio and more carbs
EQ or Mast
Then a little NPP
Insulin

In that order

im gonna run 6IU hgh and 300mg test first cycle then second cycle 6IU hgh, 400-500 test, 200-250 NPP/deca (which one you think is better?) and turinabol for first 6 weeks and aromasin for both cycles so i dont close growth plates. thoughts?

 

[molecule010]

im also tempted to add insulin as heard its very anabolic with androgens and GH but ive heard it requires heavy controlling and isnt for beginners, dont wanna mess something up and die jfl.

 

[Newday*V3]

why do you think orals are trash?

Anything injectable mogs orals, it's extra inflammation for short effects

 

[RichardSpencel]

You won’t lose hair ngl

 

[Typhon]

pretty good list but damn you don’t like anavar?

 

[Lonely]

pretty good list but damn you don’t like anavar?

It’s okay. But again, not as good as any of the injectables

 

[Typhon]

It’s okay. But again, not as good as any of the injectables

Orals are fun tho

 

[Lonely]

im gonna run 6IU hgh and 300mg test first cycle then second cycle 6IU hgh, 400-500 test, 200-250 NPP/deca (which one you think is better?) and turinabol for first 6 weeks and aromasin for both cycles so i dont close growth plates. thoughts?

im also tempted to add insulin as heard its very anabolic with androgens and GH but ive heard it requires heavy controlling and isnt for beginners, dont wanna mess something up and die jfl.

I mean ignoring growing Gyno, 500mg Test first cycle is probably best with 2IU HGH and then ramping up the HGH slowly.

Don’t use Insulin yet

 

[Lonely]

Orals are fun tho

For sure, but hella mid lol

 

[Typhon]

For sure, but hella mid lol

Lowk yeah

 

[Dizzle]

Sorry, no clue, I’m in Europe

you got one for me thats not cavan? hes been busting my balls for no reason so would def apreciate it