Top-tier facial bones + leanness but below average dick = over

[nocoiner]

Context: I'm ~10-12% bf, have strong jaw/maxilla/cheekbones, good eyebrows, decent eye area. Look like trash bloated, but when leanmaxxed I could maybe be a poverty-tier model if I wasn't manlet. ...However, I've finally accepted that the real kicker for my inceldom is not autism or height, but having a below average dick.

I matched this seemingly innocent girl on Tinder. Innocent in that she's only slept with her past boyfriends but she sounds like she's experimented with all sorts of weird fetishes.

We're both keen to meet up and did so 4 days ago... Here's some comments from her:
- "oh i thought you'd be taller"
- "you're so skinny"
- "you're really quiet and awkward"
- "i don't like your tattoos"
- "i've never slept with a shorter guy" (pretty sure we're at least same height or I'm like 1cm taller...)

By now I'm sure you're thinking JFL and it's over, right? But hold up - here's more:
- "why are you so damn cute"
- "you're the cutest guy I've been on a date with"
- "I have x hundred matches but after we matched I only talked to you and deleted the apps"
- "I didnt find my ex attractive, I barely find any guys I think are good looking, etc."
- "you turn me on so much"
- "look how ugly that dude is, how did he get her" (when people watching before the movie)

We watched a movie and the entire 3 hours she didn't stop touching my face, kissing me... She spent 15 mins alone feeling my jawline JFL. After the movie she invited me back to hers. She was feeling me up the entire way.
At hers we made out for ages but then I pussied out cos of my dick size insecurities and made an excuse to bail. Next morning we had a discussion. She asked if I thought she was ugly, I said no, then she finally probed and asked if I was insecure about size...

her: "how big are we talking?"
me: "um, like, average"
her: "how big's average? 8-9 inches?"
me: "....um wtf pretty sure that's well above"
her: "well average is prob 6-7 then? That's ok I guess?"

Boyos I just fucking died a bit inside. I'm not even average. What the fuck is with this cruel world. It'd almost be better if I was ugly - that way there'd be no expectation for anything. Is there any legit solution to this or am I completely fucked.

tl;dr
- Girl is willing to overlook manlet status and autistic personality for facial aesthetics
- OP is fucked cos he has a small dick and is delaying the inevitable

 

[Deleted member 12344]

We already know that

 

[nocoiner]

We already know that

Is it really fucking over though? I just can't swallow the blackpill... How the fuck are girl's standards so insanely high. The bar gets raised every year.

 

[Deleted member 11053]

What size are you?

 

[nocoiner]

What size are you?

About 5. I was under the illusion that being a manlet would filter out all the girls who cared about size, but apparently not.

I'm just shocked cos she did say size wasn't an issue initially. But apparently this only applies if you're above average. She's still super into me but I haven't told her the truth. It's fucking over.

*I'm also ethnic, which I hoped would also act as another filter for size queens. Again, apparently not.

 

[Mongrelcel]

About 5. I was under the illusion that being a manlet would filter out all the girls who cared about size, but apparently not.

I'm just shocked cos she did say size wasn't an issue initially. But apparently this only applies if you're above average. It's fucking over.

But 5 is nearly average. Is your girth bad as well?

 

[Deleted member 11053]

About 5. I was under the illusion that being a manlet would filter out all the girls who cared about size, but apparently not.

I'm just shocked cos she did say size wasn't an issue initially. But apparently this only applies if you're above average. It's fucking over.

Just lie about ur size women can't tell the difference. Are you circumcised btw?

 

[nocoiner]

But 5 is nearly average. Is your girth bad as well?

That's my point bro... Statistically it's average, but prob cos of her exes massive dicks are the norm to her.

Girth is fine luckily. Don't even ask about flaccid lol.

 

[Deleted member 4054]

I understand how important dick size is, especially for keeping girls around, but she obviously would have fucked if you weren't awkward and very few girls will actually bounce if u whip out a 5incher as ur gettin ready to fuck, so not sure how it's contributing to ur inceldom.

 

[nocoiner]

Just lie about ur size women can't tell the difference. Are you circumcised btw?

This is my last piece of hopium, that she has no sense of measurement. She's smart though so I doubt it. Nah I'm not circumcised.

 

[nocoiner]

I understand how important dick size is, especially for keeping girls around, but she obviously would have fucked if you weren't awkward and very few girls will actually bounce if u whip out a 5incher as ur gettin ready to fuck, so not sure how it's contributing to ur inceldom.

Lol bro, when we were discussing dick size, she literally said "gross some dicks are 4-5 inches" cos she was looking it up... JFL WTF

 

[volcelfatcel]

Girl inches dumbass, she won't care holy shit. She thinks 5-6 inches is 8 or 9 lmao. Women are horrible at gauging measurements.

 

[Deleted member 11053]

that she has no sense of measurement. She's smart though so I doubt it.

me: "um, like, average"
her: "how big's average? 8-9 inches?"

 

[volcelfatcel]

Lol bro, when we were discussing dick size, she literally said "gross some dicks are 4-5 inches" cos she was looking it up... JFL WTF

again dude, girl inches she cannot visualize 4 or 5, average is not 8 or 9.

 

[nocoiner]

again dude, girl inches she cannot visualize 4 or 5, average is not 8 or 9.

Thanks for the hopium bro. Guess I'll just go for it and post the results here lol. Mentally preparing myself for the worst lmao.

 

[Deleted member 4054]

Lol bro, when we were discussing dick size, she literally said "gross some dicks are 4-5 inches" JFL WTF

I understand. Most girls say shit like that, it's one of the major redpills u pick up especially if you hang out with groups of girls as they talk about who they're hooking up with (they talk about cock size a lot even show each other dick pics to brag etc), but if ur 5 inches I really doubt that would have stopped her as ur not THAT small

 

[volcelfatcel]

Thanks for the hopium bro. Guess I'll just go for it and post the results here lol. Mentally preparing myself for the worst lmao.

there's no hopium, she'll get turned off by your lack of confidence, dominate her, go read sex god method it's a good book that ppl recommend here, and don't be a bitch she'll think your dick is smaller because of how shy and shit you are

5 inches is probably in line with other dicks she has taken, she won't notice unless ur under an inch in diameter or some shit micro levels of thin. You need to be very small for her to notice.

 

[volcelfatcel]

I understand. Most girls say shit like that, it's one of the major redpills u pick up especially if you hang out with groups of girls as they talk about who they're hooking up with (they talk about cock size a lot even show each other dick pics to brag etc), but if ur 5 inches I really doubt that would have stopped her as ur not THAT small

Girls say shit they don't know what the fuck they are talking about, that's the reality that's why girl inches exist. Do you REALLY think every guy they hook up with is 7 fucking inches or some shit? not even chads are packing that much on average. Most chads are 5-6 4-5 girth like the standard deviations.

5 inches is fine, just girl inches and retarded measurements in action tbh. He should stop mentalceling she'll be more turned off by him being insecure than his dick imo as bluepilled as that sounds, if he goes in with confidence and dominates her she'll think his dick is bigger it's all mental.

 

[Chinacurry]

Fuck Bhai that is absolute brutal, think my GF is the same, and it makes it so difficult with her cos I know she's super into me in terms of how I am and my personality, but I'm only 6 inches and she has had way bigger so now no guy smaller than a pornstar can ever make her happy.

Have u tried going for younger girls? They might be more accepting of u?

 

[nocoiner]

Cheers for the feedback guys, will take it in. I do like how this forum is actually supportive and logical.

There's possibly truth in girl inches. I sent her a snap of my boner in boxers and she replied "nice package".

The replies about insecurity being a turn-off are also prob true. She said "I liked making out with you, but have you like ever done anything with a girl before?" Fuck me, lol.


Just brutal how a single thing can destroy us dudes, but don't you dare comment on a girl's weight or boob size or you're a horrible misogynist.

Fuck Bhai that is absolute brutal, think my GF is the same, and it makes it so difficult with her cos I know she's super into me in terms of how I am and my personality, but I'm only 6 inches and she has had way bigger so now no guy smaller than a pornstar can ever make her happy.

Have u tried going for younger girls? They might be more accepting of u?

Man, I'm not even thinking about other girls atm... I still need to reach the acceptance stage and act like it doesn't bother me. Maybe I'll go pay a bunch of hookers.

 

[volcelfatcel]

Fuck Bhai that is absolute brutal, think my GF is the same, and it makes it so difficult with her cos I know she's super into me in terms of how I am and my personality, but I'm only 6 inches and she has had way bigger so now no guy smaller than a pornstar can ever make her happy.

Have u tried going for younger girls? They might be more accepting of u?

ngl to you bro she wouldn't have stuck around if you didn't satisfy her, does she initiate sex? does she do kinky shit with you from time to time? if so she's happy and doesn't care.
You'll never be a girls biggest because there is almost always someone that will mog you somewhere.

 

[MD_Hopeful69]

how tall r u

 

[volcelfatcel]

Cheers for the feedback guys, will take it in. I do like how this forum is actually supportive and logical.

There's possibly truth in girl inches. I sent her a snap of my boner in boxers and she replied "nice package".

The replies about insecurity being a turn-off are also prob true. She said "I liked making out with you, but have you like ever done anything with a girl before?" Fuck me, lol.


Just brutal how a single thing can destroy us dudes, but don't you dare comment on a girl's weight or boob size or you're a horrible misogynist.

No worries bro, even if she dumps you go slay chad. That's all I gotta say, don't turn her off with being a bitch though or self pity, don't be apologetic for anything, dominate her. Do everything in your power to set the mood and mentally arouse her.

She thinks it's a good package she won't be disappointed irl. Just gotta capitalize that's all brotha, dick size is a mental hurdle for most men and you aren't micro ur average.

 

[Deleted member 4054]

Girls say shit they don't know what the fuck they are talking about, that's the reality that's why girl inches exist. Do you REALLY think every guy they hook up with is 7 fucking inches or some shit? not even chads are packing that much on average. Most chads are 5-6 4-5 girth like the standard deviations.

5 inches is fine, just girl inches and retarded measurements in action tbh. He should stop mentalceling she'll be more turned off by him being insecure than his dick imo as bluepilled as that sounds, if he goes in with confidence and dominates her she'll think his dick is bigger it's all mental.

Bottom line is she was tryna fuck, and op rejected her so hard she asked if he thought she was ugly (before guessing he was insecure about size). That's not inceldom, that's just not shooting the fish in the barrel. You'll look back on this eventually and laugh. My advice to get out of ur own head next time ur in that position is get in touch with ur instincts, let ur mind really feel what u wanna do to her, even picture it while ur looking at her, and run with that feeling.

 

[volcelfatcel]

Bottom line is she was tryna fuck, and op rejected her so hard she asked if he thought she was ugly (before guessing he was insecure about size). That's not inceldom, that's just not shooting the fish in the barrel. You'll look back on this eventually and laugh. My advice to get out of ur own head next time ur in that position is get in touch with ur instincts, let ur mind really feel what u wanna do to her, even picture it while ur looking at her, and run with that feeling.

yes, he needs to be confident unironically as bluepilled as i'm sounding, she'll be more turned off by him being a bitch becuase the female is supposed to be insecure not the man, he would blend in with other dicks she has taken, just needs to dominate her and fuck her she wants to open her legs but he ain't budging.

 

[Mongrelcel]

No worries bro, even if she dumps you go slay chad. That's all I gotta say, don't turn her off with being a bitch though or self pity, don't be apologetic for anything, dominate her. Do everything in your power to set the mood and mentally arouse her.

She thinks it's a good package she won't be disappointed irl. Just gotta capitalize that's all brotha, dick size is a mental hurdle for most men and you aren't micro ur average.

@volcelfatcel what's some non-delusional redpill guide for normal people (and not trp-autists)? Do you have some recommendation?

 

[volcelfatcel]

@volcelfatcel what's some non-delusional redpill guide for normal people (and not trp-autists)? Do you have some recommendation?

Redpill in what sense? just general, idk no guide for that as all guides get diluted and have retarded theories especially now in redpill where people just tell you to roid and grow a beard to counteract the balding, I just learn shit from people like @tyronelite and other people who actually have experience.

If you are referencing sex, i'd just go with sex god method it's a good book recommended by a few ppl here on not being a bitch while having sex.

 

[Mongrelcel]

Redpill in what sense? just general, idk no guide for that as all guides get diluted and have retarded theories especially now in redpill where people just tell you to roid and grow a beard to counteract the balding, I just learn shit from people like @tyronelite and other people who actually have experience.

If you are referencing sex, i'd just go with sex god method it's a good book recommended by a few ppl here on not being a bitch while having sex.

I'm talkin about general behaviour. I'm asking because all the redpill guides and courses I've come across so far had these fucking delusional theories in there, as if these guys didn't know how to make content so they just kept on coming up with more and more elaborate shit.

 

[Entschuldigung]

raining on the wet

 

[Entschuldigung]

No bros but 5 inches is the size of my dick flaccid wtf you talking about
7 inches is average
anything beyond 8 is big

 

[volcelfatcel]

I'm talkin about general behaviour. I'm asking because all the redpill guides and courses I've come across so far had these fucking delusional theories in there, as if these guys didn't know how to make content so they just kept on coming up with more and more elaborate shit.

redpill content is absolute fucking retarded nowadays ngl, it's some astrology shit about the different beta, alpha, sigma, theta males. Redpill is the most stupid pill nowadays where people just tell you to roid and then fucking grow a beard or some shit. Game is kind of a meme.
I still believe in the basis of the blackpill that looks are everything at a core but once you have looks gotta max everywhere else imo.

 

[minotaur]

tales from the mold infested basement

 

[nocoiner]

ngl to you bro she wouldn't have stuck around if you didn't satisfy her, does she initiate sex? does she do kinky shit with you from time to time? if so she's happy and doesn't care.
You'll never be a girls biggest because there is almost always someone that will mog you somewhere.

Lol, she basically initiated everything (not cos I was being a bitch, but I guess she's a sexual person and found me attractive). I have no doubt whatsoever she's (currently) into me, it's just my own head I can't get out of.

I'm absolutely set on fucking a few hookers now just so I don't seem so insecure and inexperienced.

 

[Mongrelcel]

What's your psl?

 

[Chinacurry]

ngl to you bro she wouldn't have stuck around if you didn't satisfy her, does she initiate sex? does she do kinky shit with you from time to time? if so she's happy and doesn't care.
You'll never be a girls biggest because there is almost always someone that will mog you somewhere.

Yeah I know she likes me because she's really into me as a person, and does initiate sex sometimes too, plus she can be more freaky than most girls.

But same time she does sort of hate herself for liking me because I'm not as tall/ripped/white/ big dick as other guys, and often ends up taking it out on me, having big episodes and meltdowns and shit, then comparing me to tj 100 other guys she's been with and shit.

So defo it could be worse, and I guess it's good that we didn't sleep together for quite a long time hence she had time to like my personality, which is something OP didn't get.

Funny thing is I'm not even that small, just small for girls who had SOO many dicks all over the world lol

 

[MD_Hopeful69]

Lol, she basically initiated everything (not cos I was being a bitch, but I guess she's a sexual person and found me attractive). I have no doubt whatsoever she's (currently) into me, it's just my own head I can't get out of.

I'm absolutely set on fucking a few hookers now just so I don't seem so insecure and inexperienced.

how tall r u

 

[Won't Reply?]

JELQ

Also, lol @ OP not realising he struck a BPD narc and is currently getting the "hot-cold" treatment to get him attached to her, so she can lol & discard. You are being played so hard OP!

Look, he even made a post about her already

 

[Xangsane]

tales from the mold infested basement

 

[one job away]

Is it really fucking over though? I just can't swallow the blackpill... How the fuck are girl's standards so insanely high. The bar gets raised every year.

Haha dw Girls inches aren’t real
Inches. Their 8 is a real 6 n shit. What you think she gonna do anyways ? Take a ruler ?

 

[thereallegend]

Fuck Bhai that is absolute brutal, think my GF is the same, and it makes it so difficult with her cos I know she's super into me in terms of how I am and my personality, but I'm only 6 inches and she has had way bigger so now no guy smaller than a pornstar can ever make her happy.

Have u tried going for younger girls? They might be more accepting of u?

6 inches is above average. You're fine.

 

[grimy]

Cope thread. 5 inch cock is reason for your inceldom? You have to get a girl in the bed first unless you’re sending dick picks randomly. Most men have average dick.

 

[Chinacurry]

6 inches is above average. You're fine.

Agree was fine, but in 2021, once u factor in selection bias, u r pretty much saying if a girl has fucked more than 4 guys she's had bigger than average (as in noticeably, even with foids optical perception issues), and once a girl has fucked more than 6 or 7 guys (remember selection bias grows exponentially once a girl decides to be a slut) she will have had a monster dick

 

[loksr]

Agree was fine, but in 2021, once u factor in selection bias, u r pretty much saying if a girl has fucked more than 4 guys she's had bigger than average (as in noticeably, even with foids optical perception issues), and once a girl has fucked more than 6 or 7 guys (remember selection bias grows exponentially once a girl decides to be a slut) she will have had a monster dick

Almost every guy lies about their dick size, almost nobody has even legit 7 inches let alone bigger, girls do not select for big dicks unless they’re size queens (size queens are rare), real size queens are generally not very good looking (trust me), even size queens use girl inches and have no clue what they’re talking about (again, trust me.)

i promise that in all likelihood if ANY girl you met is claiming to have been with a monster, it was almost certainly a 7 incher on a ridiculously skinny guy.

don’t try to accuse me of cope, I know for a FACT how much of a dickmogger I am in the real world (and the internet too) dick size is 100% pure cope, FACE is everything (dick size is a halo for sure when you have face though, trust me on that too)

 

[Deleted member 6963]

That's my point bro... Statistically it's average, but prob cos of her exes massive dicks are the norm to her.

Girth is fine luckily. Don't even ask about flaccid lol.

Woman inches. Doesn't matter much what she says. She could look at yours and think it's anything from 5-7 or maybe even 8 if your girth is big jfl.

 

[PURE ARYAN GENETICS]

kys lol

Innocent in that she's only slept with her past boyfriends but she sounds like she's experimented with all sorts of weird fetishes.

2021

 

[Chinacurry]

Almost every guy lies about their dick size, almost nobody has even legit 7 inches let alone bigger, girls do not select for big dicks unless they’re size queens (size queens are rare), real size queens are generally not very good looking (trust me), even size queens use girl inches and have no clue what they’re talking about (again, trust me.)

i promise that in all likelihood if ANY girl you met is claiming to have been with a monster, it was almost certainly a 7 incher on a ridiculously skinny guy.

don’t try to accuse me of cope, I know for a FACT how much of a dickmogger I am in the real world (and the internet too) dick size is 100% pure cope, FACE is everything (dick size is a halo for sure when you have face though, trust me on that too)

Face is defo the most important thing, and I'm not saying a girl will ditch u for a bigger dick, like they would for a better face or lower bodyfat, I'm just saying that girls have had monster dicks, and they will compare all guys to that, not necessarily how it looks, as u say girls can't measure for shit, but they will resent a guy who doesn't tear them up and leave them in pain the way a monster dick does

 

[.👽.]

bro who cares what a random hoe thinks you should ve fucked her tbh... dont be so whiny, start doing PE and thats it

 

[volcelfatcel]

Face is defo the most important thing, and I'm not saying a girl will ditch u for a bigger dick, like they would for a better face or lower bodyfat, I'm just saying that girls have had monster dicks, and they will compare all guys to that, not necessarily how it looks, as u say girls can't measure for shit, but they will resent a guy who doesn't tear them up and leave them in pain the way a monster dick does

they resent normies, they don't resent chad at 5 inches because chad can make her come with face and frame.

 

[Chinacurry]

they resent normies, they don't resent chad at 5 inches because chad can make her come with face and frame.

Could be true yeah

 

[JosephGarrot123]

dickpill is brutal indeed. 8 Inches Max to pleasure a girl, plus having a bigger dick means you are more sensitive since you feel more of her insides.