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If u have a average to above average frame anyway

And tall
 
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If u have a average to above average frame anyway

And tall
traps ruin your frame, i personally havent trained traps in around 3 years and they’re still huge, but relatively smaller than 3 years ago which has lead to my frame looking wider, trap is a falo.
 
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traps ruin your frame, i personally havent trained traps in around 3 years and they’re still huge, but relatively smaller than 3 years ago which has lead to my frame looking wider, trap is a falo.
Depends on the width of ur frame and ur height
 
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traps ruin your frame, i personally havent trained traps in around 3 years and they’re still huge, but relatively smaller than 3 years ago which has lead to my frame looking wider, trap is a falo.
Bullshit, every woman I talked to loves traps, it is very masculine and dimorphic. Neck too and traps make up majority of neck circumference by muscle mass. Weak traps but good upper body looks incomplete and weak as hell. Doesn't ruin your frame at all, looks powerful and masculine as hell.
 
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Depends on the width of ur frame and ur height
i havent trained in a few months consistently but in january my bidelt was 23.6Inches
 
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Bullshit, every woman I talked to loves traps, it is very masculine and dimorphic. Neck too and traps make up majority of neck circumference by muscle mass. Weak traps but good upper body looks incomplete and weak as hell. Doesn't ruin your frame at all, looks powerful and masculine as hell.
Will fail as bodybuilder with weak traps obviously it is aesthetic. Back looks WAY better from behind as well.
 
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Bullshit, every woman I talked to loves traps, it is very masculine and dimorphic. Neck too and traps make up majority of neck circumference by muscle mass. Weak traps but good upper body looks incomplete and weak as hell. Doesn't ruin your frame at all, looks powerful and masculine as hell.
what did i say bro? my traps are still huge, however huge traps contribute to your frame looking narrower, as they did with mine.
 
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I do kelso shrugs + vertical shrugs for complete upper traps development 🥰🥰🥰 upright rows, BTN press and front raises overhead too. Fuck yeah for maximizing WHOLE upper traps hypertrophy. I love wearing tight sweaters that got a big ring around the neck showing off my traps, sexy as hell!!
 
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Traps are very important, yes.
 
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what did i say bro? my traps are still huge, however huge traps contribute to your frame looking narrower, as they did with mine.
It doesn't really net whole, it is cope imo. Overall net whole it is better, and you need big UT for that thick total stud neck look
 
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@Fledermaus you just need bigger delts, bigger chest, wider lats and serratus anterior to balance big/huge upper traps. If you got wide clavicles and a big ribcage UT can't get too big IMO
 
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@NW3Slayer upper traps are very important yes??
 
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@Fledermaus you just need bigger delts, bigger chest, wider lats and serratus anterior to balance big/huge upper traps. If you got wide clavicles and a big ribcage UT can't get too big IMO
my bidelt is 23.6inches my bro, i genetically have huge traps, 3 years ago they were HUGE, ever since then i stopped training them, now they’re still very big but proportional to the rest of my physique which has led to my frame looking a lot wider.
 
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my bidelt is 23.6inches my bro, i genetically have huge traps, 3 years ago they were HUGE, ever since then i stopped training them, now they’re still very big but proportional to the rest of my physique which has led to my frame looking a lot wider.
I think you are seeing things that aren't there regarding UT imo. Probably they never made your frame look worse to others and women, just more yoked. I got huge UT genetically too I think it is sexy especially when wearing tight sweaters showing them off around the neck. 🥰 With your build huge UT would just make your frame more impressive and sexier.
 
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I think you are seeing things that aren't there regarding UT imo. Probably they never made your frame look worse to others and women, just more yoked. I got huge UT genetically too I think it is sexy especially when wearing tight sweaters showing them off around the neck. 🥰 With your build huge UT would just make your frame more impressive and sexier.
Should look yoke and bull as fuck @Fledermaus
 
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I think you are seeing things that aren't there regarding UT imo. Probably they never made your frame look worse to others and women, just more yoked. I got huge UT genetically too I think it is sexy especially when wearing tight sweaters showing them off around the neck. 🥰 With your build huge UT would just make your frame more impressive and sexier.
My UT don’t pop yet I’ve been inconsistent training them so far

I’ve locked in recently tho
 
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If u have a average to above average frame anyway

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traps ruin your frame, i personally havent trained traps in around 3 years and they’re still huge, but relatively smaller than 3 years ago which has lead to my frame looking wider, trap is a falo.

It depends on your frame

When you have narrow shoulders and your traps are big it will make you look like a failed gymcel jfl


If your shoulders are wide though, big traps add to your frame

My shoulders are wide but the traps arent very well developed, i am not isolating them but they get targeted passively on lateral raises and reverse flies

Here the classic meme

The right guy would benefit from more traps, left guy would benefit from smaller traps jfl

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i havent trained in a few months consistently but in january my bidelt was 23.6Inches

Can you post a pic of your body? 23,6 is incredible

My frame is solid but nowhere near 23,6

 
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I think you are seeing things that aren't there regarding UT imo. Probably they never made your frame look worse to others and women, just more yoked. I got huge UT genetically too I think it is sexy especially when wearing tight sweaters showing them off around the neck. 🥰 With your build huge UT would just make your frame more impressive and sexier.
@Fledermaus thing is UT got vertical and horizontal fibers.. what runs around your clavicles out to the shoulders are the horizontal fibers, maybe you only did vertical shrugs and got big vertical fibers but horizontal underdeveloped? Horizontal ones compliment your frame IMO not make it worse
 
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just do reeves deadlifts bro
 
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@Fledermaus thing is UT got vertical and horizontal fibers.. what runs around your clavicles out to the shoulders are the horizontal fibers, maybe you only did vertical shrugs and got big vertical fibers but horizontal underdeveloped? Horizontal ones compliment your frame IMO not make it worse
I do vertical shrugs:feelspepo:

What do I do instead?
 
I do vertical shrugs:feelspepo:

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Kelso shrugs on a horizontal row machine are great, focus on starting each rep with maximally protracted clavicles and shoulder blades, then shrugging as far backwards + slightly upwards as you can. Focus more on moving your CLAVICLES first and foremost rather than shoulder blades. This should be your #1 upper traps isolation movement, vertical shrugs after as finishing move. Upper traps elevating the shoulders is wrong they retract them and the clavicles at a slight upwards angle first and foremost, only the top uppermost fibers elevate the shoulders. Vertical shrugs are actually shitty for engaging majority of upper traps dynamically, use them as a finishing move.
 
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my bidelt is 23.6inches my bro, i genetically have huge traps, 3 years ago they were HUGE, ever since then i stopped training them, now they’re still very big but proportional to the rest of my physique which has led to my frame looking a lot wider.
Mine are almost the same and I am natty (just ultra wide clavicles + huge ribcage build), and I always try to maximize upper traps hypertrophy

Edit: Similar height and build as you I think basically probably
 
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