Transdermal DHT/Tren/Ment + IGF-1 DES: Aggressive Androgenic Facial Remodeling Stack

[ZyzzReincarnate]

Here me out boys because this does come with some side effects (Acne, perhaps irritation, prob more facial hair growth + systemic absorption)

but...

After doing some research I have indeed confirmed that transdermal androgens, especially dht/tren/ment (which are VERY potent) WILL ABSORB LOCALLY BINDING TO AR'S IN YOUR JAWLINE

My reasoning being that we know topical DHT works as a mean of penile enlargement more effectively than injecting DHT systemically, and results in less systemic absorption altogether = less systemic androgrenic side effects

Topical dihydrotestosterone to treat micropenis secondary to partial androgen insensitivity syndrome (PAIS) before, during, and after puberty - a case series - PubMed

Topical DHT treatment appears to be a safe and well-tolerated method of virilising micropenis both prior to and during puberty in children with PAIS. Questions remain about long-term outcomes into adulthood, and efficacy in adults with prior lengthy exposure to high-dose testosterone.

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

And here we have proof that androgens play a vital role when it comes to craniofacial bone remodeling via binding to androgen receptors in our jawlines. This can fucking work bros...

https://www.mdpi.com/2073-4409/8/11/1318

(In all seriousness pls just use DHT and not tren/ment was a joke tbh)

IGF-1 DES is the most potent, local IGF-1 boost you could apply to your jawline. I would only use a very shallow injection, with a 31g syringe due to the nature of injecting into your face. This would speed up the androgenic, masculine bone remodeling.

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/353581874_IGF-1_TMJ_Injections_Enhance_Mandibular_Growth_and_Bone_Quality_in_Juvenile_Rats

IGF-1 TMJ Injections Enhance Mandibular Growth and Bone Quality in Juvenile Rats - PMC

Dentofacial orthopedic treatment of mandibular hypoplasia has unpredictable skeletal outcomes. Although several biomodulators including insulin-like growth factor 1 (IGF-1) are known to contribute to chondrocyte proliferation, their efficacy in ...

pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Not a doctor, do at your own risk.

 

[KeepCopingLads]

now we need a lab rat

 

[ZyzzReincarnate]

now we need a lab rat

If anyone does this recommend it be somebody who isn't sensitive to acne / skin issues or balding plz

 

[Oreone]

You maybe a retard but I also thought about it

 

[Whirr22222]

DHT is localised unlike testosterone but it has no noticeable effect on bones. Also preventing a bone from breaking down isnt the same as causing bone growth. The term is osteoclasts & osteoblasts.

 

[ZyzzReincarnate]

DHT is localised unlike testosterone but it has no noticeable effect on bones. Also preventing a bone from breaking down isnt the same as causing bone growth. The term is osteoclasts & osteoblasts.

Androgens would promote more masculine structure for remodeling rather than growth, thats what the IGF-1 is for

 

[ZyzzReincarnate]

You maybe a retard but I also thought about it

It is most definitely retarded but maybe someone will try XD

 

[averagenormie]

Holy retard, dht doesn't play any role after puberty except causing androgenic side effecs, igf1 is produced throughout your whole life unless you're gh resistant or malnourished, and as for the androgens it's testosterone that's doing the androgenic facial changes and we know this because T is endocrine and produced in much higher concentrations than any other androgen and present in boys more than in girls

 

[divisionpanzerfaust]

Holy retard, dht doesn't play any role after puberty except causing androgenic side effecs, igf1 is produced throughout your whole life unless you're gh resistant or malnourished, and as for the androgens it's testosterone that's doing the androgenic facial changes and we know this because T is endocrine and produced in much higher concentrations than any other androgen and present in boys more than in girls

fucking sudanese subhuman dnr

 

[averagenormie]

fucking sudanese subhuman dnr

Def not a subuhhman like you

 

[chadisbeingmade]

In all seriousness pls just use DHT and not tren/ment was a joke tbh

Cope, DHT is shit for literally everything. Literally does ZERO for bones JFL.

If you want to use androgens, use actual androgens (more androgenic than DHT) that are not only androgenic, but also anabolic. Piss weak DHT will do NOTHING apart from detriment you.

 

[divisionpanzerfaust]

Def not a subuhhman like you

ima mogging u to oblivion

 

[divisionpanzerfaust]

ima mogging u to oblivion

i have a photo of urs don't forget xd

 

[averagenormie]

Cope, DHT is shit for literally everything. Literally does ZERO for bones JFL.

If you want to use androgens, use actual androgens (more androgenic than DHT) that are not only androgenic, but also anabolic.

High iq take

 

[divisionpanzerfaust]

Def not a subuhhman like you

check ur telegram

 

[Sachlichkeit]

DHT needs to bind to localized androgen receptors. Which is why DHT gel is drastically more efficient at growing your dick than systemic elevated levels from exogenous testosterone.

DHT doesn’t drive bone growth in the way you think it does, it’s an ancillary androgen that maintains already established growth. DHT deficient men have pretty much the same bones aside from being barely noticeably smaller

If Dht gel DOES efficiently bind to your bones, maybe 10-20% of it will go systemic and target your hair follicles first

IGF-1 des will probably enlarge the bones in your face but it’s 30x stronger than GH and will probably give you a Jew nose and elephant ears. BMP’s grow bones locally without enlarging tissue

better solution for bones would be test gel or maybe something insane and retarded like topical anavar or tren

Here me out boys because this does come with some side effects (Acne, perhaps irritation, prob more facial hair growth + systemic absorption)

but...

After doing some research I have indeed confirmed that transdermal androgens, especially dht/tren/ment (which are VERY potent) WILL ABSORB LOCALLY BINDING TO AR'S IN YOUR JAWLINE

My reasoning being that we know topical DHT works as a mean of penile enlargement more effectively than injecting DHT systemically, and results in less systemic absorption altogether = less systemic androgrenic side effects

Topical dihydrotestosterone to treat micropenis secondary to partial androgen insensitivity syndrome (PAIS) before, during, and after puberty - a case series - PubMed

Topical DHT treatment appears to be a safe and well-tolerated method of virilising micropenis both prior to and during puberty in children with PAIS. Questions remain about long-term outcomes into adulthood, and efficacy in adults with prior lengthy exposure to high-dose testosterone.

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

And here we have proof that androgens play a vital role when it comes to craniofacial bone remodeling via binding to androgen receptors in our jawlines. This can fucking work bros...

https://www.mdpi.com/2073-4409/8/11/1318

(In all seriousness pls just use DHT and not tren/ment was a joke tbh)

IGF-1 DES is the most potent, local IGF-1 boost you could apply to your jawline. I would only use a very shallow injection, with a 31g syringe due to the nature of injecting into your face. This would speed up the androgenic, masculine bone remodeling.

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/353581874_IGF-1_TMJ_Injections_Enhance_Mandibular_Growth_and_Bone_Quality_in_Juvenile_Rats

IGF-1 TMJ Injections Enhance Mandibular Growth and Bone Quality in Juvenile Rats - PMC

Dentofacial orthopedic treatment of mandibular hypoplasia has unpredictable skeletal outcomes. Although several biomodulators including insulin-like growth factor 1 (IGF-1) are known to contribute to chondrocyte proliferation, their efficacy in ...

pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Not a doctor, do at your own risk

 

[Copercel]

Here me out boys because this does come with some side effects (Acne, perhaps irritation, prob more facial hair growth + systemic absorption)

but...

After doing some research I have indeed confirmed that transdermal androgens, especially dht/tren/ment (which are VERY potent) WILL ABSORB LOCALLY BINDING TO AR'S IN YOUR JAWLINE

My reasoning being that we know topical DHT works as a mean of penile enlargement more effectively than injecting DHT systemically, and results in less systemic absorption altogether = less systemic androgrenic side effects

Topical dihydrotestosterone to treat micropenis secondary to partial androgen insensitivity syndrome (PAIS) before, during, and after puberty - a case series - PubMed

Topical DHT treatment appears to be a safe and well-tolerated method of virilising micropenis both prior to and during puberty in children with PAIS. Questions remain about long-term outcomes into adulthood, and efficacy in adults with prior lengthy exposure to high-dose testosterone.

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

And here we have proof that androgens play a vital role when it comes to craniofacial bone remodeling via binding to androgen receptors in our jawlines. This can fucking work bros...

https://www.mdpi.com/2073-4409/8/11/1318

(In all seriousness pls just use DHT and not tren/ment was a joke tbh)

IGF-1 DES is the most potent, local IGF-1 boost you could apply to your jawline. I would only use a very shallow injection, with a 31g syringe due to the nature of injecting into your face. This would speed up the androgenic, masculine bone remodeling.

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/353581874_IGF-1_TMJ_Injections_Enhance_Mandibular_Growth_and_Bone_Quality_in_Juvenile_Rats

IGF-1 TMJ Injections Enhance Mandibular Growth and Bone Quality in Juvenile Rats - PMC

Dentofacial orthopedic treatment of mandibular hypoplasia has unpredictable skeletal outcomes. Although several biomodulators including insulin-like growth factor 1 (IGF-1) are known to contribute to chondrocyte proliferation, their efficacy in ...

pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Not a doctor, do at your own risk.

Dnr. I want to have hair please.

 

[lurker999]

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[Oreone]

It is most definitely retarded but maybe someone will try XD

I was only talking about IGF injections.
DHT is trash on its own — it doesn’t affect anything except dick growth during early and mid puberty, plus baldness and acne.
I was thinking about IGF, but seriously — what the hell, it's been over 5 years on this forum and no one’s even tried it?

IGF-1 des will probably enlarge the bones in your face but it’s 30x stronger than GH and will probably give you a Jew nose and elephant ears. BMP’s grow bones locally without enlarging tissue

better solution for bones would be test gel or maybe something insane and retarded like topical anavar or tren

What the fuck did I just read?

 

[Sachlichkeit]

I was only talking about IGF injections.
DHT is trash on its own — it doesn’t affect anything except dick growth during early and mid puberty, plus baldness and acne.
I was thinking about IGF, but seriously — what the hell, it's been over 5 years on this forum and no one’s even tried it?

What the fuck did I just read?

GH enlarges cartilage irrespective of age. Jew nose elephant ears.

Test gel for androgens. Topical mixes for mad scientists

 

[ZyzzReincarnate]

DHT needs to bind to localized androgen receptors. Which is why DHT gel is drastically more efficient at growing your dick than systemic elevated levels from exogenous testosterone.

DHT doesn’t drive bone growth in the way you think it does, it’s an ancillary androgen that maintains already established growth. DHT deficient men have pretty much the same bones aside from being barely noticeably smaller

If Dht gel DOES efficiently bind to your bones, maybe 10-20% of it will go systemic and target your hair follicles first

IGF-1 des will probably enlarge the bones in your face but it’s 30x stronger than GH and will probably give you a Jew nose and elephant ears. BMP’s grow bones locally without enlarging tissue

better solution for bones would be test gel or maybe something insane and retarded like topical anavar or tren

Couldn't say for sure which androgen alone was responsible for my face gains 19-23 (roidcel) but i've had significant craniofacial changes since starting anabolic steroids

19 y/o on the left, so you cant make argument that i "just hit puberty" because i already did. steroids gave me a second puberty that remodeled my skull tremendously

 

[Sachlichkeit]

Couldn't say for sure which androgen alone was responsible for my face gains 19-23 (roidcel) but i've had significant craniofacial changes since starting anabolic steroids


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19 y/o on the left, so you cant make argument that i "just hit puberty" because i already did. steroids gave me a second puberty that remodeled my skull tremendously

Yes you can. This isn’t rocket science. Almost everything androgen related has mountains of studies surrounding it that you can filter through to find which drug works best for specific needs

 

[ZyzzReincarnate]

Yes you can. This isn’t rocket science. Almost everything androgen related has mountains of studies surrounding it that you can filter through to find which drug works best for specific needs

Yeah i know... i'm saying out of everything I used in the last 4 years I couldnt tell you which was responsible for my face changes THE MOST.

 

[Stacyslayer777]

now we need a lab rat

If I get a 6 months supply from yuo guys I’d do it fr (I’m 15 so it should be efficient)

 

[Stacyslayer777]

It is most definitely retarded but maybe someone will try XD

Bro, give me a 6 months supply and I’ll do it

 

[noahbtan]

If anyone does this recommend it be somebody who isn't sensitive to acne / skin issues or balding plz

I found one on TikTok, his name is spookatheog

 

[noahbtan]

Couldn't say for sure which androgen alone was responsible for my face gains 19-23 (roidcel) but i've had significant craniofacial changes since starting anabolic steroids


View attachment 3923209

19 y/o on the left, so you cant make argument that i "just hit puberty" because i already did. steroids gave me a second puberty that remodeled my skull tremendously

What was your cycles bro?

 

[SteirischeEiche]

Here me out boys because this does come with some side effects (Acne, perhaps irritation, prob more facial hair growth + systemic absorption)

but...

After doing some research I have indeed confirmed that transdermal androgens, especially dht/tren/ment (which are VERY potent) WILL ABSORB LOCALLY BINDING TO AR'S IN YOUR JAWLINE

My reasoning being that we know topical DHT works as a mean of penile enlargement more effectively than injecting DHT systemically, and results in less systemic absorption altogether = less systemic androgrenic side effects

Topical dihydrotestosterone to treat micropenis secondary to partial androgen insensitivity syndrome (PAIS) before, during, and after puberty - a case series - PubMed

Topical DHT treatment appears to be a safe and well-tolerated method of virilising micropenis both prior to and during puberty in children with PAIS. Questions remain about long-term outcomes into adulthood, and efficacy in adults with prior lengthy exposure to high-dose testosterone.

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

And here we have proof that androgens play a vital role when it comes to craniofacial bone remodeling via binding to androgen receptors in our jawlines. This can fucking work bros...

https://www.mdpi.com/2073-4409/8/11/1318

(In all seriousness pls just use DHT and not tren/ment was a joke tbh)

IGF-1 DES is the most potent, local IGF-1 boost you could apply to your jawline. I would only use a very shallow injection, with a 31g syringe due to the nature of injecting into your face. This would speed up the androgenic, masculine bone remodeling.

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/353581874_IGF-1_TMJ_Injections_Enhance_Mandibular_Growth_and_Bone_Quality_in_Juvenile_Rats

IGF-1 TMJ Injections Enhance Mandibular Growth and Bone Quality in Juvenile Rats - PMC

Dentofacial orthopedic treatment of mandibular hypoplasia has unpredictable skeletal outcomes. Although several biomodulators including insulin-like growth factor 1 (IGF-1) are known to contribute to chondrocyte proliferation, their efficacy in ...

pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Not a doctor, do at your own risk.

I’m already planning to replicate the Study with the IGF-1 TMJ injections, problem is, I don’t know how to inject into Joints and I have no Idea what the dose should be, since the one given in the study seems ridiculously high for humans.

 

[ZyzzReincarnate]

I’m already planning to replicate the Study with the IGF-1 TMJ injections, problem is, I don’t know how to inject into Joints and I have no Idea what the dose should be, since the one given in the study seems ridiculously high for humans.

you can do subq very shallow around the area. not injecting into the joint jfl

 

[iblameautistickids]

Couldn't say for sure which androgen alone was responsible for my face gains 19-23 (roidcel) but i've had significant craniofacial changes since starting anabolic steroids


View attachment 3923209

19 y/o on the left, so you cant make argument that i "just hit puberty" because i already did. steroids gave me a second puberty that remodeled my skull tremendously

drop all the cycles u did brah

 

[ZyzzReincarnate]

drop all the cycles u did brah

I'll just list every compound I've ever used after my sarm/prohormone era:

testosterone
trenbolone
anavar
masteron
npp
equipoise
mk-677
igf1-lr3
hgh
turinabol
anadrol
bpc-157
tb-500
melanotan 2

 

[jeoyw9192]

I'll just list every compound I've ever used after my sarm/prohormone era:

testosterone
trenbolone
anavar
masteron
npp
equipoise
mk-677
igf1-lr3
hgh
turinabol
anadrol
bpc-157
tb-500
melanotan 2

thanks - what were the dosages for each btw

 

[iblameautistickids]

I'll just list every compound I've ever used after my sarm/prohormone era:

testosterone
trenbolone
anavar
masteron
npp
equipoise
mk-677
igf1-lr3
hgh
turinabol
anadrol
bpc-157
tb-500
melanotan 2

Mirin but a lot of the compounds on here are unnecessary ( like dht)