tren or test

[AtrophicPyra]

tren has a 500;500 androgenic and anabolic rating and as usual test has 100;100, so why dont i just take tren for a month and then wait for pct to kick start my gnrh pathways then start test e for like 5 months? is that a good plan or is that retarded. is a month of tren a super tiny time frame or is it enough to see bone structure form in my face in my body etc.

what are your opinions, how much tren would u take and for how long

 

[emo-ogre666]

Wait. Where does your belief that taking steroids will make your genetic potential just disappear?

 

[AtrophicPyra]

Wait. Where does your belief that taking steroids will make your genetic potential just disappear?

2 months of tren with 100mg of test base?

 

[emo-ogre666]

2 months of tren with 100mg of test base?

Well it could speed up bone growth. But I do not think it would necessarily make your bones exceed what's in your genetic coding.

 

[chot]

pussy ass nigga do a gram of both

 

[chot]

Well it could speed up bone growth. But I do not think it would necessarily make your bones exceed what's in your genetic coding.

it 100% would androgens during puberty are the most important besides dht. You can literally grow inches of bidelt and dick length over your "genetic limit" because it doesnt exist, more of a hormone means a more potent effect from that hormone, whether it result in bone growth or dick growth.

 

[emo-ogre666]

it 100% would androgens during puberty are the most important besides dht. You can literally grow inches of bidelt and dick length over your "genetic limit" because it doesnt exist, more of a hormone means a more potent effect from that hormone, whether it result in bone growth or dick growth.

Oh shit. Well if that's the case I might start. def just gonna do some research.

 

[BR32]

If you insist on taking roids start w test only

 

[Apchun144]

If you insist on taking roids start w test only

Test and ai

 

[BR32]

Test and ai

Why does he need an AI off rip?

Just pin ED and your E2 should be fine under ~400 test

 

[hunkymonkey69]

dont do tren, everyone whos taking tren heavily regretted it after and itll probably descend you just do test only

 

[mtbsmasher]

trens gonna shut u down hard and the sides will likely be very brutal for a first cycle (nothing in ur body cns, androgen receptors) are used to roids so you'll likely get alot of acne and sleep loss also u wont grow any bones

 

[kkah]

is 80tren, 500test, 5mg var a W 3-month cycle?

 

[Yoshiteeq]

dont do tren, everyone whos taking tren heavily regretted it after and itll probably descend you just do test only

micro dosing tren helps with bone mineralization and bone density, and even causing bone formation because it unregulates the wnt signaling pathway, and also increases androgen receptor mrna levels @mtbsmasher @hunkymonkey69

 

[PharmaPhaggot]

 

[India lover 52]

dont do tren, everyone whos taking tren heavily regretted it after and itll probably descend you just do test only

-somebody who has never taken tren before

idk where u heard that but unless your a retard it will not decend you and you will not regret it stop fearmongering something you've never even tried

 

[India lover 52]

tren has a 500;500 androgenic and anabolic rating and as usual test has 100;100, so why dont i just take tren for a month and then wait for pct to kick start my gnrh pathways then start test e for like 5 months? is that a good plan or is that retarded. is a month of tren a super tiny time frame or is it enough to see bone structure form in my face in my body etc.

what are your opinions, how much tren would u take and for how long

i would microdose it for a long period of time also why would u ever pct u can have kids on cycle with hmg and hcg and u never have to worry about getting a foid pregnant, you also feel better on trt than the highest natural t producers in the world

 

[hunkymonkey69]

-somebody who has never taken tren before

idk where u heard that but unless your a retard it will not decend you and you will not regret it stop fearmongering something you've never even tried

ive heard it from everyone whos talked about their experience with tren, they all regret it and they all say it fucked thme up mentally and physically

 

[India lover 52]

ive heard it from everyone whos talked about their experience with tren, they all regret it and they all say it fucked thme up mentally and physically

then their retarded and ran it too high or didn't take the right ancillaries tren is fucking awesome

 

[hunkymonkey69]

View attachment 4773665 then their retarded and ran it too high or didn't take the right ancillaries tren is fucking awesome

maybe, i cant say i speak from experience ive just seen a lot of threads on here about guys who ran tren and couldnt sleep, had bad aggression issues, bad acnea, and just the typical tren sides

 

[India lover 52]

maybe, i cant say i speak from experience ive just seen a lot of threads on here about guys who ran tren and couldnt sleep, had bad aggression issues, bad acnea, and just the typical tren sides

yeah all that can happen on high doses but imo tren should be run year round at >100mg, no sleep issues more impulse control and less anger if anything and i take accutane for acne so thats not a problem either

 

[India lover 52]

maybe, i cant say i speak from experience ive just seen a lot of threads on here about guys who ran tren and couldnt sleep, had bad aggression issues, bad acnea, and just the typical tren sides

plus of course the people who had a bad experience would be more inclined to talk about their experience than someone who had a positive experience

 

[Somatropin]

tren has a 500;500 androgenic and anabolic rating

this is a myth according to Derek MPMD

 

[hunkymonkey69]

yeah all that can happen on high doses but imo tren should be run year round at >100mg, no sleep issues more impulse control and less anger if anything and i take accutane for acne so thats not a problem either

plus of course the people who had a bad experience would be more inclined to talk about their experience than someone who had a positive experience

yea you make good points, i mean for example all ive ran was basic test and anavar and people fearmonger with test aswell saying things like youll need pct for life, or that youll get bad heart problems and such

 

[India lover 52]

this is a myth according to Derek MPMD

the rating isn't a myth thats what the study showed but it was done on castrated rats so it doesn't translate 1:1 with humans i'd say tren is somewhere around 3x as potent as test mg for mg

 

[Somatropin]

the rating isn't a myth thats what the study showed but it was done on castrated rats so it doesn't translate 1:1 with humans i'd say tren is somewhere around 3x as potent as test mg for mg

yeah its more potent than test ofc but his point was that tren was more tissue selective, meaning that the anabolic to androgenic ratio was higher than 1:1

idk why everyone on this forum is obsessed with tren tho, test simply mogs, you are able to prevent most of the androgenicity with dut, less neurotoxicity, and it won't shut you down nearly as harsh

 

[India lover 52]

yeah its more potent than test ofc but his point was that tren was more tissue selective, meaning that the anabolic to androgenic ratio was higher than 1:1

idk why everyone on this forum is obsessed with tren tho, test simply mogs, you are able to prevent most of the androgenicity with dut, less neurotoxicity, and it won't shut you down nearly as harsh

some people want the androgenicity though, especially late bloomers or people with low dimo, of course its a bit more neurotoxic but that can be prevented with ancillaries and suppression amount doesn't really matter as test alone will shut you down 99% of the way anyways

the reason people talk about it so much is because of its unique properties like corticosteroid suppression and nutrition partitioning and the selectivity like you mentioned plus obviously it builds muscle extremely fast

 

[Somatropin]

of course its a bit more neurotoxic but that can be prevented with ancillaries and suppression amount doesn't really matter as test alone will shut you down 99% of the way anyways

Which ancillaries for brain health? Haven't seen much talk about any except for melatonin

Yes it matters because recovery will be much easier if you ever decide to PCT

 

[India lover 52]

Which ancillaries for brain health? Haven't seen much talk about any except for melatonin

Yes it matters because recovery will be much easier if you ever decide to PCT

yeah but once the tren and its metabolites clear your system it doesn't effect pct difficulty

i personally take dihexa celebroyslin and magic mushrooms along with a bunch of supplements but anything that is neurogenic or increases neuroplasticity is good