Tretinoin and hair loss

[everythingisacope]

holy fuck u coping cucks.
I have been treating my skin with trer 0,05% for about 1,5 months now.I am already seeing good improvements but 3 weeks in I started noticing increased hair loss and started researching.As usual, some also report the same increased hair loss, some are sure it is because of tret(like myself) and some coping cucks think that this side effect is not existent if they don't have it.

I can tell you for a fact that : upon using twice the pea size ammount of tret and also taking a multivitamin which also has 350% the recommended intake of vit A I am experiencing scalp itchiness like 20 mins - 8 hours after applying.The itchiness in my case correlates with the ammount of hair loss.Using less tret means I get less itchiness, using it less often means the itchiness, thus hairloss occurs less often.I also get more symptoms of vit a hypervitaminosis like dry red lips plus headaches.I will cut out the multivitamin, use 1 pea size of tret 3 times a week although I can tolerate more and will update

tagging @Native so he doesn't rope after finding this out by surprise in case this happens to him

 

[aspieSavage]

didn't happen to me. I've been on it for 6months+. You're probably just balding rip

 

[everythingisacope]

also
crazy improve in skin tightness
reduced under eye area cucked coloring
better beard growth
and increased hollow cheeks

so major life fuel except for hair loss

 

[everythingisacope]

didn't happen to me. I've been on it for 6months+. You're probably just balding rip

No one in my family is bald plus I never experienced this ammount of shedding before taking tret.Plus the hair "loss" went back to normal after taking a 1 week break off from it.Another day, another cope

 

[Deleted member 5927]

No one in my family is bald plus I never experienced this ammount of shedding before taking tret.Plus the hair "loss" went back to normal after taking a 1 week break off from it.Another day, another cope

Are you sure because telogen effluvium takes 3 months to kick in not 1 and week

 

[Deleted member 5927]

holy fuck u coping cucks.
I have been treating my skin with trer 0,05% for about 1,5 months now.I am already seeing good improvements but 3 weeks in I started noticing increased hair loss and started researching.As usual, some also report the same increased hair loss, some are sure it is because of tret(like myself) and some coping cucks think that this side effect is not existent if they don't have it.

I can tell you for a fact that : upon using twice the pea size ammount of tret and also taking a multivitamin which also has 350% the recommended intake of vit A I am experiencing scalp itchiness like 20 mins - 8 hours after applying.The itchiness in my case correlates with the ammount of hair loss.Using less tret means I get less itchiness, using it less often means the itchiness, thus hairloss occurs less often.I also get more symptoms of vit a hypervitaminosis like dry red lips plus headaches.I will cut out the multivitamin, use 1 pea size of tret 3 times a week although I can tolerate more and will update

tagging @Native so he doesn't rope after finding this out by surprise in case this happens to him

Honestly bro it’s fucked if I cant treat acne without getting hypervitaminosis A. I’ve been using tretinoin so far I don’t notice any scalp itchiness though. Hair still falling out however. Fuck.

 

[Patrick Baitman]

That explains why i have been observing way more shedding than I ever did. I have been using 0.05 tret like twice the size of a pea (because I'm one greedy mf) + multivitamins every single day since past 4 months.

Skin is way better than it ever was, since then like 4 foids have told me that they have a crush on me. How do I save my hair tho?

 

[Deleted member 5927]

That explains why i have been observing way more shedding than I ever did. I have been using 0.05 tret like twice the size of a pea (because I'm one greedy mf) + multivitamins every single day since past 4 months.

Skin is way better than it ever was, since then like 4 foids have told me that they have a crush on me. How do I save my hair tho?

Any hair loss from retinoids is telogen efflivium caused by hypervitaminosis A. I don’t believe in hairloss from tretinoin because telogen effluvium takes 3 months to kick in it’s not instant like these people claim. I have hair loss from accutane and it took 4.5 months to start it’s not instant.

 

[Patrick Baitman]

Any hair loss from retinoids is telogen efflivium caused by hypervitaminosis A. I don’t believe in hairloss from tretinoin because telogen effluvium takes 3 months to kick in it’s not instant like these people claim. I have hair loss from accutane and it took 4.5 months to start it’s not instant.

hairloss is a side effect which i noticed about a month ago, and I have been following my current skincare routine for 4 months now

 

[Patrick Baitman]

Any hair loss from retinoids is telogen efflivium caused by hypervitaminosis A. I don’t believe in hairloss from tretinoin because telogen effluvium takes 3 months to kick in it’s not instant like these people claim. I have hair loss from accutane and it took 4.5 months to start it’s not instant.

is there anything i can do to save my hair? or is quitting this shit my last resort?

 

[Blue]

is there anything i can do to save my hair? or is quitting this shit my last resort?

I think quitting it for good is the way. Now to be fair, while I was taking accutane and experienced hair shedding, I didn't do anything explicitly against it (not like there's much you can do against drug-induced telogen effluvium anyways), so hopping off it was the logical conclusion. My hair started its significant regrowth phase after 2-3 months of stopping accutane.

 

[everythingisacope]

Are you sure because telogen effluvium takes 3 months to kick in not 1 and week

i noticed increased hair shedding after 3-4 weeks of use

 

[Deleted member 6963]

Yes, obviously, hypervitaminosis A can lead to hairloss. You probably don't need a vitamin A supplement

 

[W0KESTMOTHF]

also
crazy improve in skin tightness
reduced under eye area cucked coloring
better beard growth
and increased hollow cheeks

so major life fuel except for hair loss

U use tret on your under eyes?

 

[everythingisacope]

U use tret on your under eyes?

yeah, I use it everywhere(except upper eyelids) and apply twice the recommended ammount, I use it like a moisturizer.I even put it on my lips 3-4 times jfl

 

[everythingisacope]

Yes, obviously, hypervitaminosis A can lead to hairloss. You probably don't need a vitamin A supplement

I will lay off the vit A supp, and reduce the ammount and frequency a bit

 

[Deleted member 5927]

i noticed increased hair shedding after 3-4 weeks of use

Brutal shit dude I already have hairloss now I have acne and the only treatment may give me more hairloss? Jfl I have no other option I’m going to continue, I literally have no other option

 

[Deleted member 5927]

I think quitting it for good is the way. Now to be fair, while I was taking accutane and experienced hair shedding, I didn't do anything explicitly against it (not like there's much you can do against drug-induced telogen effluvium anyways), so hopping off it was the logical conclusion. My hair started its significant regrowth phase after 2-3 months of stopping accutane.

Wow dude. So you got telogen effluvium from accutane too and it stopped? Very relieving to hear I’m not alone.

 

[Deleted member 5927]

hairloss is a side effect which i noticed about a month ago, and I have been following my current skincare routine for 4 months now

Are you taking accutane or using tretinoin?

 

[everythingisacope]

Brutal shit dude I already have hairloss now I have acne and the only treatment may give me more hairloss? Jfl I have no other option I’m going to continue, I literally have no other option

very brutal indeed...best bet would be unironically getting a buzzcut and blasting tret or going lower on tret plus less often like I am going to do for the next 3 weeks to see if I see improvements

 

[Deleted member 5927]

very brutal indeed...best bet would be unironically getting a buzzcut and blasting tret or going lower on tret plus less often like I am going to do for the next 3 weeks to see if I see improvements

Tretinoin chased you hair loss just to clarify? After how much time and where is the hair loss located? I don’t see how tretinoin could be the cause simply because it’s literally not enough vitamin A to cause hypervitaminosis A, also telogen effluvium isn’t something that occurs 3-4 weeks after tretinoin, telogen effluvium took me for example 4.5 months to start AFTER USING ACCUTANE (an actual overdose of vitamin A).

if you were actually experiencing hypervitaminosis A you would expect to see other symptoms of hypervitaminosis A including dry skin, peeling lips, fucked up vision, not just telogen effluvium. Your symptoms don’t match telogen effluvium either as the hair rests for about 3-4 months then falls out. Even if it happened after 3-4 weeks that would mean literally one time of rubbing tretinoin on your face was enough to put your entire body into shock and 3-4 weeks later your hair fell out. I don’t think you have telogen effluvium.

 

[grimy]

Brutal, there goes my collagen protection

 

[everythingisacope]

Tretinoin chased you hair loss just to clarify? After how much time and where is the hair loss located? I don’t see how tretinoin could be the cause simply because it’s literally not enough vitamin A to cause hypervitaminosis A, also telogen effluvium isn’t something that occurs 3-4 weeks after tretinoin, telogen effluvium took me for example 4.5 months to start AFTER USING ACCUTANE (an actual overdose of vitamin A).

if you were actually experiencing hypervitaminosis A you would expect to see other symptoms of hypervitaminosis A including dry skin, peeling lips, fucked up vision, not just telogen effluvium. Your symptoms don’t match telogen effluvium either as the hair rests for about 3-4 months then falls out. Even if it happened after 3-4 weeks that would mean literally one time of rubbing tretinoin on your face was enough to put your entire body into shock and 3-4 weeks later your hair fell out. I don’t think you have telogen effluvium.

I do experience peeling lips(red,dry,peeling) plus the usual headaches.
The hair I am losing is located everywhere.I have pretty long hair and mid length sides.I run my fingers through my hair and I always catch 1-2.The length differs : sometimes 10-12 cm, sometimes from the back of my head like 2-3cm, or my sides 2-5cm.I did this yesterday for about 30 minutes straight(running my fingers through my hair) and I caught like 40 hairs (1-3 hairs every time I run them through my head, covering the entire head area)

 

[everythingisacope]

Tretinoin chased you hair loss just to clarify? After how much time and where is the hair loss located? I don’t see how tretinoin could be the cause simply because it’s literally not enough vitamin A to cause hypervitaminosis A, also telogen effluvium isn’t something that occurs 3-4 weeks after tretinoin, telogen effluvium took me for example 4.5 months to start AFTER USING ACCUTANE (an actual overdose of vitamin A).

if you were actually experiencing hypervitaminosis A you would expect to see other symptoms of hypervitaminosis A including dry skin, peeling lips, fucked up vision, not just telogen effluvium. Your symptoms don’t match telogen effluvium either as the hair rests for about 3-4 months then falls out. Even if it happened after 3-4 weeks that would mean literally one time of rubbing tretinoin on your face was enough to put your entire body into shock and 3-4 weeks later your hair fell out. I don’t think you have telogen effluvium.

I also don't believe the increased hair loss needs that much time to start happening since I literally got 25% more beard density in the spots where it was sparse after about 1,5 months of use.Can't imagine that being due to natural cause either in that short of a time span

1 more thing : everybody claims "u need at least 3 months of use to see results bro".I literally noticed them after 1 month of use and people around me too.Improvement in skin texture plus better skin tightness

 

[Patrick Baitman]

Are you taking accutane or using tretinoin?

tret 0.5%

 

[Blue]

Wow dude. So you got telogen effluvium from accutane too and it stopped? Very relieving to hear I’m not alone.

Yeah it stopped. Is yours still ongoing?

 

[Deleted member 5927]

Yeah it stopped. Is yours still ongoing?

Yes but I’ve been off accutane about a month and a half. Hopefully it ends soon in the next month or two.

 

[Deleted member 5927]

tret 0.5%

Fuck that’s what I’m using. And you’ve noticed hair loss? But you said you also take a shit ton of supplements and use more than the recommended amount of tretinoin? Minimize the amount of vitamin A you are getting then. For supplements the maximum recommended dosage is 10k IU. What kind of supplements did you take?

 

[Deleted member 5927]

I also don't believe the increased hair loss needs that much time to start happening since I literally got 25% more beard density in the spots where it was sparse after about 1,5 months of use.Can't imagine that being due to natural cause either in that short of a time span

1 more thing : everybody claims "u need at least 3 months of use to see results bro".I literally noticed them after 1 month of use and people around me too.Improvement in skin texture plus better skin tightness

Well dude telogen effluvium isn’t something that can happen quickly. Hairloss caused by oral isotretinoin is caused by hypervitaminosis A due to excessive amounts of vitamin A causing telogen effluvium, where the hairs on your head all enter the telogen phase and rest for 4 months then fall out after that 4 months is over. Your hairloss should not be that quick if it’s caused by vitamin A overdose.

On top of that tretinoin doesn’t take 3 months to work, it just takes 3 months to see very noticeable difference. It works just the same as it does from the beginning, but it won’t be that much noticeable until you’ve used it every day for about a hundred days so the results are more exaggerated.

I’m really hoping you are wrong about this simply because I have no other solution for my acne other than tretinoin since accutane gave me hair loss.

 

[everythingisacope]

Well dude telogen effluvium isn’t something that can happen quickly. Hairloss caused by oral isotretinoin is caused by hypervitaminosis A due to excessive amounts of vitamin A causing telogen effluvium, where the hairs on your head all enter the telogen phase and rest for 4 months then fall out after that 4 months is over. Your hairloss should not be that quick if it’s caused by vitamin A overdose.

On top of that tretinoin doesn’t take 3 months to work, it just takes 3 months to see very noticeable difference. It works just the same as it does from the beginning, but it won’t be that much noticeable until you’ve used it every day for about a hundred days so the results are more exaggerated.

I’m really hoping you are wrong about this simply because I have no other solution for my acne other than tretinoin since accutane gave me hair loss.

idk, but this shit definitely got me paranoid.Will keep monitoring the hair loss and see the progress in the next 2-3 months.Wanted to give you a heads up as you MIGHT experience hair loss from this shit too

 

[Patrick Baitman]

For supplements the maximum recommended dosage is 10k IU. What kind of supplements did you take?

random multivitamin pill i picked up while buying groceries ngl. ik its a retard move but yeah.

 

[kej3094]

holy fuck u coping cucks.
I have been treating my skin with trer 0,05% for about 1,5 months now.I am already seeing good improvements but 3 weeks in I started noticing increased hair loss and started researching.As usual, some also report the same increased hair loss, some are sure it is because of tret(like myself) and some coping cucks think that this side effect is not existent if they don't have it.

I can tell you for a fact that : upon using twice the pea size ammount of tret and also taking a multivitamin which also has 350% the recommended intake of vit A I am experiencing scalp itchiness like 20 mins - 8 hours after applying.The itchiness in my case correlates with the ammount of hair loss.Using less tret means I get less itchiness, using it less often means the itchiness, thus hairloss occurs less often.I also get more symptoms of vit a hypervitaminosis like dry red lips plus headaches.I will cut out the multivitamin, use 1 pea size of tret 3 times a week although I can tolerate more and will update

tagging @Native so he doesn't rope after finding this out by surprise in case this happens to him

imagine trying to put the blame on tretinoin and not your genes lol, sorry buddy but you gotta hop on fin or go bald.

 

[everythingisacope]

imagine trying to put the blame on tretinoin and not your genes lol, sorry buddy but you gotta hop on fin or go bald.

definitely going to hop on fin if I start noticing visible hair thinning but very unlikely I have male pattern baldness

 

[Deleted member 11134]

would taking 50k IU beta carotene and using 0.025% tretinoin also lead to hair loss?

 

[Deleted member 5927]

would taking 50k IU beta carotene and using 0.025% tretinoin also lead to hair loss?

In theory it shouldn’t. Beta carotene isn’t actually vitamin A, it’s a precursor to vitamin A. The thing about beta carotene is you can’t get vitamin A poisoning from it because once your body has enough vitamin A it just chooses not to convert the rest of the beta carotene into vitamin A and as a result you just piss it out. And .25% tretinoin shouldn’t be enough to give you hairloss either. I don’t really get what they are saying. I’m continuing use of tretinoin.

 

[Maxim]

Are we suppose to put tretinoin before our temples on the hairline? Or on the part where the hair starts? (Maybe the dead skin is what is clogging up the hair, and tretinoin will remove that layer, causing hair to actuallg grow?)

 

[Celexawer]

yeah, I use it everywhere(except upper eyelids) and apply twice the recommended ammount, I use it like a moisturizer.I even put it on my lips 3-4 times jfl

Over for your undereye support

 

[Acnno]

In theory it shouldn’t. Beta carotene isn’t actually vitamin A, it’s a precursor to vitamin A. The thing about beta carotene is you can’t get vitamin A poisoning from it because once your body has enough vitamin A it just chooses not to convert the rest of the beta carotene into vitamin A and as a result you just piss it out. And .25% tretinoin shouldn’t be enough to give you hairloss either. I don’t really get what they are saying. I’m continuing use of tretinoin.

AKA Just eat carrots a lot theory for vitamin A + you get the skin tone benefit too, vitamin A supplements are a meme imo jfl

 

[lejend]

Initial hair *shedding* is expected. Cope!

 

[Matthias8272]

also
crazy improve in skin tightness
reduced under eye area cucked coloring
better beard growth
and increased hollow cheeks

so major life fuel except for hair loss

I thought you're meant to avoid under eyes to avoid hollow eyes

 

[everythingisacope]

I thought you're meant to avoid under eyes to avoid hollow eyes

did not make a difference for me tbh

 

[Deleted member 6892]

been using .1% for month or two
no hair loss

 

[germanlooks]

@Moggedbyevery1 @RabidRosaries did you notice hair loss?
I think it’s cope and the reason for OPs shedding is the multivitamin he takes orally but idk

 

[BucketCrab]

I don't think topical tretinoin goes systemic, which means it couldn't possibly cause hypervitaminosis A.
Now oral tretinoin (isotretinoin/accutane) is known to have hair loss among its side effects.

This type of hair loss should be reversible, though.

 

[Deleted member 15827]

@Moggedbyevery1 @RabidRosaries did you notice hair loss?
I think it’s cope and the reason for OPs shedding is the multivitamin he takes orally but idk

No hair loss.

 

[eduardkoopman]

. You're probably just balding rip

most likely this.
just blame some random thing, for your baldness genes.

to add.
some minoxidill users, that don't respond to minoxidell. get good results adding tretinoin to it, or more gains.
now make sense of that, IF tretinoin causes balding.

Tretinoin enhances minoxidil response in androgenetic alopecia patients by upregulating follicular sulfotransferase enzymes - PubMed

Minoxidil sulfate is the active metabolite required to exert the vasodilatory and hair growing effects of minoxidil. For hair growth, sulfotransferase enzymes expressed in outer root sheath of the hair follicle sulfonate minoxidil. The large intra-subject variability in follicular...

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Efficacy of 5% minoxidil versus combined 5% minoxidil and 0.01% tretinoin for male pattern hair loss: a randomized, double-blind, comparative clinical trial - PubMed

The efficacy and safety of combined 5% minoxidil and 0.01% tretinoin once-daily therapy appear to be equivalent to those of conventional 5% minoxidil twice-daily therapy for the treatment of AGA.

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov