True Chud

[subiva]

Crazy how this looksmaxxing stuff goes full circle. What got me into looksmaxxing was a girl rejecting me because I was too ugly. This was in middle school and made me extremely insecure. I was already nuro divergent, but now even more insecure. I only believed pin soft maxes like hair maxing, eye lash maxxing, etc., but then abt a year ago I realized with certain habits you can make real changes. I was then rejected by the same girl a year ago, and this is when I got really into looksmaxxing. I mainly js health maxxed + softmaxxing and made real changes in my looks. I got really into the black pill last march and got on peptides last summer and started taking hgh end of summe/early fall. Now that same girl dm me, asking me out. She's currently my gf, but i'm so insecure it's not enough. I also finally noticed female attention at parties. I went to a new year's party, and a girl randomly introduced herself to me, and then through out the party kept introducing me to her friends. Then one of her friends walked up to me with her and asked me if I had a new years kiss, and if I could kiss the original girl that introduced herself to me, at midnight. I'm definitely doing better and it's really only cause of my looks because my personality hasn't changed. Despite all this this the years of loneliness and the chud life, still has me feeling like it's not enough. Im heavily considering braking up with my gf, to focus on looksmaxxing. Put 100% of my focus on looking better, saving up for surgeries, and buying peptides + steroids (while taking care of my bloodwork). Spending hrs on researching to make sure I keep ascending, really js be an incel until i'm htn or chadlite (hopefully). Trying to become a true chud.

 

[Grievous]

Cant believe I just read this useless shit expecting something good from a greycel

 

[ethanx]

Crazy how this looksmaxxing stuff goes full circle. What got me into looksmaxxing was a girl rejecting me because I was too ugly. This was in middle school and made me extremely insecure. I was already nuro divergent, but now even more insecure. I only believed pin soft maxes like hair maxing, eye lash maxxing, etc., but then abt a year ago I realized with certain habits you can make real changes. I was then rejected by the same girl a year ago, and this is when I got really into looksmaxxing. I mainly js health maxxed + softmaxxing and made real changes in my looks. I got really into the black pill last march and got on peptides last summer and started taking hgh end of summe/early fall. Now that same girl dm me, asking me out. She's currently my gf, but i'm so insecure it's not enough. I also finally noticed female attention at parties. I went to a new year's party, and a girl randomly introduced herself to me, and then through out the party kept introducing me to her friends. Then one of her friends walked up to me with her and asked me if I had a new years kiss, and if I could kiss the original girl that introduced herself to me, at midnight. I'm definitely doing better and it's really only cause of my looks because my personality hasn't changed. Despite all this this the years of loneliness and the chud life, still has me feeling like it's not enough. Im heavily considering braking up with my gf, to focus on looksmaxxing. Put 100% of my focus on looking better, saving up for surgeries, and buying peptides + steroids (while taking care of my bloodwork). Spending hrs on researching to make sure I keep ascending, really js be an incel until i'm htn or chadlite (hopefully). Trying to become a true chud.

surgeries peptides steroids

 

[Knight]

Crazy how this looksmaxxing stuff goes full circle. What got me into looksmaxxing was a girl rejecting me because I was too ugly. This was in middle school and made me extremely insecure. I was already nuro divergent, but now even more insecure. I only believed pin soft maxes like hair maxing, eye lash maxxing, etc., but then abt a year ago I realized with certain habits you can make real changes. I was then rejected by the same girl a year ago, and this is when I got really into looksmaxxing. I mainly js health maxxed + softmaxxing and made real changes in my looks. I got really into the black pill last march and got on peptides last summer and started taking hgh end of summe/early fall. Now that same girl dm me, asking me out. She's currently my gf, but i'm so insecure it's not enough. I also finally noticed female attention at parties. I went to a new year's party, and a girl randomly introduced herself to me, and then through out the party kept introducing me to her friends. Then one of her friends walked up to me with her and asked me if I had a new years kiss, and if I could kiss the original girl that introduced herself to me, at midnight. I'm definitely doing better and it's really only cause of my looks because my personality hasn't changed. Despite all this this the years of loneliness and the chud life, still has me feeling like it's not enough. Im heavily considering braking up with my gf, to focus on looksmaxxing. Put 100% of my focus on looking better, saving up for surgeries, and buying peptides + steroids (while taking care of my bloodwork). Spending hrs on researching to make sure I keep ascending, really js be an incel until i'm htn or chadlite (hopefully). Trying to become a true chud.

 

[d0wnpour_]

Crazy how this looksmaxxing stuff goes full circle. What got me into looksmaxxing was a girl rejecting me because I was too ugly. This was in middle school and made me extremely insecure. I was already nuro divergent, but now even more insecure. I only believed pin soft maxes like hair maxing, eye lash maxxing, etc., but then abt a year ago I realized with certain habits you can make real changes. I was then rejected by the same girl a year ago, and this is when I got really into looksmaxxing. I mainly js health maxxed + softmaxxing and made real changes in my looks. I got really into the black pill last march and got on peptides last summer and started taking hgh end of summe/early fall. Now that same girl dm me, asking me out. She's currently my gf, but i'm so insecure it's not enough. I also finally noticed female attention at parties. I went to a new year's party, and a girl randomly introduced herself to me, and then through out the party kept introducing me to her friends. Then one of her friends walked up to me with her and asked me if I had a new years kiss, and if I could kiss the original girl that introduced herself to me, at midnight. I'm definitely doing better and it's really only cause of my looks because my personality hasn't changed. Despite all this this the years of loneliness and the chud life, still has me feeling like it's not enough. Im heavily considering braking up with my gf, to focus on looksmaxxing. Put 100% of my focus on looking better, saving up for surgeries, and buying peptides + steroids (while taking care of my bloodwork). Spending hrs on researching to make sure I keep ascending, really js be an incel until i'm htn or chadlite (hopefully). Trying to become a true chud.

"until im htn or chadlite"

cage

 

[LS2019]

 

[subiva]

Cant believe I just read this useless shit expecting something good from a greycel

mb js yapping ill put a warning at the top next time

 

[subiva]

surgeries peptides steroids

you don't think hardmaxxing can ascend you ??

 

[subiva]

"until im htn or chadlite"

cage

i'll js kick the chair if hardmaxxing doesn't get me there

 

[willysucker]

Crazy how this looksmaxxing stuff goes full circle. What got me into looksmaxxing was a girl rejecting me because I was too ugly. This was in middle school and made me extremely insecure. I was already nuro divergent, but now even more insecure. I only believed pin soft maxes like hair maxing, eye lash maxxing, etc., but then abt a year ago I realized with certain habits you can make real changes. I was then rejected by the same girl a year ago, and this is when I got really into looksmaxxing. I mainly js health maxxed + softmaxxing and made real changes in my looks. I got really into the black pill last march and got on peptides last summer and started taking hgh end of summe/early fall. Now that same girl dm me, asking me out. She's currently my gf, but i'm so insecure it's not enough. I also finally noticed female attention at parties. I went to a new year's party, and a girl randomly introduced herself to me, and then through out the party kept introducing me to her friends. Then one of her friends walked up to me with her and asked me if I had a new years kiss, and if I could kiss the original girl that introduced herself to me, at midnight. I'm definitely doing better and it's really only cause of my looks because my personality hasn't changed. Despite all this this the years of loneliness and the chud life, still has me feeling like it's not enough. Im heavily considering braking up with my gf, to focus on looksmaxxing. Put 100% of my focus on looking better, saving up for surgeries, and buying peptides + steroids (while taking care of my bloodwork). Spending hrs on researching to make sure I keep ascending, really js be an incel until i'm htn or chadlite (hopefully). Trying to become a true chud.

dnr

 

[d0wnpour_]

i'll js kick the chair if hardmaxxing doesn't get me there

You are incredibly unlikely to get to chadlite, so give that up. HTN with surgery is doable depending on your base, but if your base is terrible, even multiple surgeries might not get you there.

 

[subiva]

You are incredibly unlikely to get to chadlite, so give that up. HTN with surgery is doable depending on your base, but if your base is terrible, even multiple surgeries might not get you there.

my main flaw is my maxilla I have gotten multiple cbct scans and i'm playing to get an expander for the breathing benefits then DJS since i'm a strong candidate for that. I also going to get fat graph, and orbital implants for my eye area. Lastly a chin implant during my DJS. I think this will get me to a htn at least, as I'm also going to soft max and take a lot of steroids + bone smashing. My base according to faceiq app is a hltn. But my ratios (except for my narrow face and lower third) are good. My main other just have bad support because of my narrow maxilla giving me a negative cantle tilt. My main flaws are fixable with surgery and steroid (more dimorphism).

 

[d0wnpour_]

my main flaw is my maxilla I have gotten multiple cbct scans and i'm playing to get an expander for the breathing benefits then DJS since i'm a strong candidate for that. I also going to get fat graph, and orbital implants for my eye area. Lastly a chin implant during my DJS. I think this will get me to a htn at least, as I'm also going to soft max and take a lot of steroids + bone smashing. My base according to faceiq app is a hltn. But my ratios (except for my narrow face and lower third) are good. My main other just have bad support because of my narrow maxilla giving me a negative cantle tilt. My main flaws are fixable with surgery and steroid (more dimorphism).

DJS is a good surgery so it could help, but I doubt you will actually do all the procedures you listed. If you do, good luck I guess.

Steroids + bonesmashing bonesmashing isnt gonna do much of anything sorry to break it to you. youre better off just doing the steroids and not pummeling the skin, blood, muscles, and cartilage of your face

 

[subiva]

DJS is a good surgery so it could help, but I doubt you will actually do all the procedures you listed. If you do, good luck I guess.

Steroids + bonesmashing bonesmashing isnt gonna do much of anything sorry to break it to you. youre better off just doing the steroids and not pummeling the skin, blood, muscles, and cartilage of your face

I work 40 hrs a week + full time hs student + rest of the time im looksmaxxing or researching. I really don't have a life besides seeing my gf sometimes. I have my appointment for my expander already, and I the only person in my school not going to college so I can work to afford hard maxes. I think I will go through with everything.

Bone smashing might be cope but a lot of the big ascensions incorporated it Ehren + clav + androgenic + etc.

 

[afy]

Crazy how this looksmaxxing stuff goes full circle. What got me into looksmaxxing was a girl rejecting me because I was too ugly. This was in middle school and made me extremely insecure. I was already nuro divergent, but now even more insecure. I only believed pin soft maxes like hair maxing, eye lash maxxing, etc., but then abt a year ago I realized with certain habits you can make real changes. I was then rejected by the same girl a year ago, and this is when I got really into looksmaxxing. I mainly js health maxxed + softmaxxing and made real changes in my looks. I got really into the black pill last march and got on peptides last summer and started taking hgh end of summe/early fall. Now that same girl dm me, asking me out. She's currently my gf, but i'm so insecure it's not enough. I also finally noticed female attention at parties. I went to a new year's party, and a girl randomly introduced herself to me, and then through out the party kept introducing me to her friends. Then one of her friends walked up to me with her and asked me if I had a new years kiss, and if I could kiss the original girl that introduced herself to me, at midnight. I'm definitely doing better and it's really only cause of my looks because my personality hasn't changed. Despite all this this the years of loneliness and the chud life, still has me feeling like it's not enough. Im heavily considering braking up with my gf, to focus on looksmaxxing. Put 100% of my focus on looking better, saving up for surgeries, and buying peptides + steroids (while taking care of my bloodwork). Spending hrs on researching to make sure I keep ascending, really js be an incel until i'm htn or chadlite (hopefully). Trying to become a true chud.

break up with her and find some friends to hang out with. find a girl that will actually love you not some bitch who got with you for the wrong reasons

 

[Endoplasmic82]

Crazy how this looksmaxxing stuff goes full circle. What got me into looksmaxxing was a girl rejecting me because I was too ugly. This was in middle school and made me extremely insecure. I was already nuro divergent, but now even more insecure. I only believed pin soft maxes like hair maxing, eye lash maxxing, etc., but then abt a year ago I realized with certain habits you can make real changes. I was then rejected by the same girl a year ago, and this is when I got really into looksmaxxing. I mainly js health maxxed + softmaxxing and made real changes in my looks. I got really into the black pill last march and got on peptides last summer and started taking hgh end of summe/early fall. Now that same girl dm me, asking me out. She's currently my gf, but i'm so insecure it's not enough. I also finally noticed female attention at parties. I went to a new year's party, and a girl randomly introduced herself to me, and then through out the party kept introducing me to her friends. Then one of her friends walked up to me with her and asked me if I had a new years kiss, and if I could kiss the original girl that introduced herself to me, at midnight. I'm definitely doing better and it's really only cause of my looks because my personality hasn't changed. Despite all this this the years of loneliness and the chud life, still has me feeling like it's not enough. Im heavily considering braking up with my gf, to focus on looksmaxxing. Put 100% of my focus on looking better, saving up for surgeries, and buying peptides + steroids (while taking care of my bloodwork). Spending hrs on researching to make sure I keep ascending, really js be an incel until i'm htn or chadlite (hopefully). Trying to become a true chud.

“Nuro divergent”

Dnr

 

[Endoplasmic82]

break up with her and find some friends to hang out with. find a girl that will actually love you not some bitch who got with you for the wrong reasons

The whole reason she rejected him was because of his looks, then she decided she wanted to be with him because of his looks.

Women will only be with someone they find good looking, so stop with all this bluepill shit lol.

The only exception to that, is if he didn’t ascend, and she only got with him as he’s the best she couple get with (for a relationship), after sleep around and being a whore.

 

[afy]

The whole reason she rejected him was because of his looks, then she decided she wanted to be with him because of his looks.

Women will only be with someone they find good looking, so stop with all this bluepill shit lol.

The only exception to that, is if he didn’t ascend, and she only got with him as he’s the best she couple get with (for a relationship), after sleep around and being a whore.

youre right, rejections happen but personally, my ego wouldnt let this happen

 

[Endoplasmic82]

youre right, rejections happen but personally, my ego wouldnt let this happen

I get what you’re saying, and to be honest I have done the same in the past.

Previously I had liked a girl, and she shown no interest in me besides being friends, she then started to like me later on when I had a bit of a glow up, but something inside of me was telling me “If she can’t have me at my lowest, she can’t have me now” (very cringe I know, but that is the truth of the matter), despite being blackpilled and objectively knowing why that isn’t the best mindset, I will still think like that.

 

[subiva]

The whole reason she rejected him was because of his looks, then she decided she wanted to be with him because of his looks.

Women will only be with someone they find good looking, so stop with all this bluepill shit lol.

The only exception to that, is if he didn’t ascend, and she only got with him as he’s the best she couple get with (for a relationship), after sleep around and being a whore.

I agree I don't blame her for getting with me, it's not because of my looks as I'm not htn or chadlite it's more because before I didn't even meet her bare minimum look requirement. I probably surpass it now as she hit me up on IG, and was kinda doing the chasing, but before I didn't even meet that bare minimum. I'm not a dick or an asswhole and I treat her well, so that's why she's my gf + looking good enough where she puts me in that position where I'm a possible candidate. No matter how good my personality was it would never be good enough, if I looked the way I looked back then.

Also she's not a slut. She never even went on a date or kissed a guy before me. Never even held a guys hand.

 

[Endoplasmic82]

I agree I don't blame her for getting with me, it's not because of my looks as I'm not htn or chadlite it's more because before I didn't even meet her bare minimum look requirement. I probably surpass it now as she hit me up on IG, and was kinda doing the chasing, but before I didn't even meet that bare minimum. I'm not a dick or an asswhole and I treat her well, so that's why she's my gf + looking good enough where she puts me in that position where I'm a possible candidate. No matter how good my personality was it would never be good enough, if I looked the way I looked back then.

Also she's not a slut. She never even went on a date or kissed a guy before me. Never even held a guys hand.

That’s what she tells you lol, maybe she’s telling the truth.

By the sounds of it you’re alright mate

 

[afy]

I get what you’re saying, and to be honest I have done the same in the past.

Previously I had liked a girl, and she shown no interest in me besides being friends, she then started to like me later on when I had a bit of a glow up, but something inside of me was telling me “If she can’t have me at my lowest, she can’t have me now” (very cringe I know, but that is the truth of the matter), despite being blackpilled and objectively knowing why that isn’t the best mindset, I will still think like that.

your situation is different, yall were friends. and sometimes people just bond over time, and your glow up probably helped a little. this guy prolly got rejected and had no contact with her.

 

[Endoplasmic82]

your situation is different, yall were friends. and sometimes people just bond over time, and your glow up probably helped a little. this guy prolly got rejected and had no contact with her.

Nah but in my situation the sexual tension was always there, she used to always flirt with me by punching my arm, and she used to draw on my hands and even tried to bite me lol, I think she may have liked me even before, but saying that there are religious circumstances to my story which may have affected it, well initially anyway.

 

[afy]

Nah but in my situation the sexual tension was always there, she used to always flirt with me by punching my arm, and she used to draw on my hands and even tried to bite me lol, I think she may have liked me even before, but saying that there are religious circumstances to my story which may have affected it, well initially anyway.

yeah bro dont let those thoughts ruin that rls, my ego made lose the loml n i had to humble myself since then.

 

[subiva]

That’s what she tells you lol, maybe she’s telling the truth.

By the sounds of it you’re alright mate

Yeah i agree I mean i don't know it to be true. I do believe her tho js because I have a lot of mutuals with her and she goes to a very small school that I know everyone there as I used to go there. I spoken to my friends abt her and at least I know she's never dated someone at the school cause my friends would have known. Also she's hates going out, likes to stay home. And I'm close to her parents and they never mentioned anything. Also she's put me on her close friends last year on IG. She always posts me even before we were dating on there so I'm assuming she'd put someone else if she ever did date someone else so i would have saw it. Also like little things like she was worried what her parents would think if she started dating, so if she dated before she would not have that fear.

 

[Endoplasmic82]

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Yeah i agree I mean i don't know it to be true. I do believe her tho js because I have a lot of mutuals with her and she goes to a very small school that I know everyone there as I used to go there. I spoken to my friends abt her and at least I know she's never dated someone at the school cause my friends would have known. Also she's hates going out, likes to stay home. And I'm close to her parents and they never mentioned anything. Also she's put me on her close friends last year on IG. She always posts me even before we were dating on there so I'm assuming she'd put someone else if she ever did date someone else so i would have saw it. Also like little things like she was worried what her parents would think if she started dating, so if she dated before she would not have that fear.

oure all good man, you’re 18 I think you said, and not that many people have sexual experiences at that age, let alone loads (obviously some do, but the majority don’t).

 

[Endoplasmic82]

yeah bro dont let those thoughts ruin that rls, my ego made lose the loml n i had to humble myself since then.

Very relatable,

Even though I am very self respecting, I do need to learn how to compromise more, but obviously when appropriate (I won’t be treated like a dickhead JFL).

 

[subiva]

your situation is different, yall were friends. and sometimes people just bond over time, and your glow up probably helped a little. this guy prolly got rejected and had no contact with her.

Yeah I got rejected then no contact for abt 3 years, as I moved schools. Besides seeing her once at hoco 2 years in, didn't say a word to her tho. I got rejected again after not seeing her for abt 3 years. Then no contact for abt another year then she hit me up. Then we started dating.

 

[afy]

Yeah I got rejected then no contact for abt 3 years, as I moved schools. Besides seeing her once at hoco 2 years in, didn't say a word to her tho. I got rejected again after not seeing her for abt 3 years. Then no contact for abt another year then she hit me up. Then we started dating.

yeah my mind would not let me be in that situation bro. the method is to go back to the ex before your ascension.

 

[subiva]

Y

oure all good man, you’re 18 I think you said, and not that many people have sexual experiences at that age, let alone loads (obviously some do, but the majority don’t).

17 and yeah I agree. That's why apart of me wants to stay with her she's genuinely a good girl, that doesn't stress me out. I just been loosing focus being with her, especially loosing sleep and cheating on my diet. I want to focus on ascending and making money to hardmax but also know someone like her is rarez

 

[Rothschild]

Cant believe I just read this useless shit expecting something good from a greycel

 

[Endoplasmic82]

17 and yeah I agree. That's why apart of me wants to stay with her she's genuinely a good girl, that doesn't stress me out. I just been loosing focus being with her, especially loosing sleep and cheating on my diet. I want to focus on ascending and making money to hardmax but also know someone like her is rarez

You can still ascend and upgrade in life with a woman, but only with a woman that trusts in you and that will give you the space needed when appropriate, to be able to work on yourself and get shit done.

As long as she isn’t deathly clingy, to the point where you can’t even do shit, even small things like going to the gym, then you’re fine.

 

[subiva]

N

yeah my mind would not let me be in that situation bro. the method is to go back to the ex before your ascension.

Not my ex but yeah i see what ur saying. Honestly the only reason I consider her was she rejected me in 8th grade so I didn't hold that against her cause it was middle school and I was sub 5. That's why i completely avoided her in social events, despite this she still hit me up after I literally spoke one word to her. She liked asked me a question and I showed I wasn't interested in her. I told my friend before that I had no interest in her and he told her that. Despite all of this she still hit me up so I could tell she genuinely wanted me. I thought might as well give her a chance as I know she's a good girl and she was honestly my first and only real crush. As i'm a chud that goes to an all boys school.

 

[subiva]

You can still ascend and upgrade in life with a woman, but only with a woman that trusts in you and that will give you the space needed when appropriate, to be able to work on yourself and get shit done.

As long as she isn’t deathly clingy, to the point where you can’t even do shit, even small things like going to the gym, then you’re fine.

She's not honestly it's more me like it hard to spend a friday night alone doing work when I can js ask my gf to pull up. That's the only reason why I js don't think I have discipline rn to do both.

 

[afy]

N

Not my ex but yeah i see what ur saying. Honestly the only reason I consider her was she rejected me in 8th grade so I didn't hold that against her cause it was middle school and I was sub 5. That's why i completely avoided her in social events, despite this she still hit me up after I literally spoke one word to her. She liked asked me a question and I showed I wasn't interested in her. I told my friend before that I had no interest in her and he told her that. Despite all of this she still hit me up so I could tell she genuinely wanted me. I thought might as well give her a chance as I know she's a good girl and she was honestly my first and only real crush. As i'm a chud that goes to an all boys school.

yeah bro lock that in ur good

 

[Endoplasmic82]

She's not honestly it's more me like it hard to spend a friday night alone doing work when I can js ask my gf to pull up. That's the only reason why I js don't think I have discipline rn to do both.

Well you need to find it or stay at the same level you are.

Sounds like a personal issue, I wouldn’t say get rid of her to focus on this shit, you should just do what you gotta do whilst having a relationship.