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yes cause they invaded germanyThere is zero debate here. Just check the crowd photos
@SecularIslamist
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yes cause they invaded germanyThere is zero debate here. Just check the crowd photos
@SecularIslamist
germany let them inyes cause they invaded germany
Retard theory.I am literally giving you the samples
They are literally close to Southern Europeans
But they had White features.
Look
Both WHG(native european HG) and ANF had white samples
Like oldest White sample belongs to 10k years old ANF girl (ZHJ Her id)
Both of these mfs are descended of West Eurasian Race.
Europeans were also brown passing till iron age.
Somehow Blond White men breed more and overpopulated Brown european men
For Southern europeans Brown men won in there.
White Turks are more common than white Greeks, and white Italians.White Turks are rare. But the white ones always try to fool people into believing that they are representative of the common Turk.
Turks have mixed genes but literally none of the genetic admixtures are truly white in the strictest sense. Not even the Greek or Caucasian part of their dna. I’ve seen plenty of Greeks who look more Arab than some Turks and vice-versa.
Lol.. no. I agree that Greeks aren’t white but let’s be real, they’re whiter than Turks.White Turks are more common than white Greeks, and white Italians.
No, you all have the same skin color on average, but Turks have more light eyed European passing people than Greece, simply due to higher population which can also translate into more white people per capita, so yeah.Lol.. no. I agree that Greeks aren’t white but let’s be real, they’re whiter than Turks.
Greeks have more white in comparison to their population. Of course the numbers are higher in Turkey simply due to a way bigger population. So logically Turks also have a higher numbers of brown people than Greeks too.No, you all have the same skin color on average, but Turks have more light eyed European passing people than Greece, simply due to higher population which can also translate into more white people per capita, so yeah.
Retard theory.
ANF were not white. Some indeed were, but they are mostly mixed.
They were mostly wavy to curly hair. Short-statured. Olive to light-brown skin, and dark hair and eyes.
They do have white examples, but they are always grossly exaggerated by academic sources to prove some sort of point in favor of the coping, swarthy southern Euros.
How brown people, IF the skin color on average is pretty similar, and I'm talking South East Turkey too.Greeks have more white in comparison to their population. Of course the numbers are higher in Turkey simply due to a way bigger population. So logically Turks also have a higher numbers of brown people than Greeks too.
Well you’re speaking of EEF in that case, not true ANF.These are Barcin Niggers
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The ones who went to Europe from Central Boncuklu and some of them had fair features
That’s not even true. It really depends on the region.How brown people, IF the skin color on average is pretty similar, and I'm talking South East Turkey too.
KarabögaThere is zero debate here. Just check the crowd photos
@SecularIslamist

These are also ANFs.Well you’re speaking of EEF in that case, not true ANF.
this is my hair color .How brown people, IF the skin color on average is pretty similar, and I'm talking South East Turkey too.
To be honest I find ethnics debating about who's whiter than the other, while both not being white extremely pathetic, I'll just leave it, but yeah Greece definitely does have lighter type people.That’s not even true. It really depends on the region.
Crete for example may have mostly all browns.
But Central Macedonia (non-Pontic ones) are mostly all whites.
Greece has just as much variety as Turks.
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even if this is funny, its true i know so many turks who has hazel green eyes and mogs everyone
I think it’s the other way around.These are also ANFs.
Barcin ones are late ANFs
Yes mostly Boncuklu not BarcinI think it’s the other way around.
Greeks are believed to have the earliest ANF inputs, not the later ones.
So Greeks are genetically more white than northern euros, but not phenotypically? Makes absolutely no sense.Yes mostly Boncuklu not Barcin
Although samples from Greece are still brown passing
https://adnaxp.github.io/ you can check it from there
What do you mean by white ?So Greeks are genetically more white than northern euros, but not phenotypically? Makes absolutely no sense.
I don’t buy it.
OP:There is zero debate here. Just check the crowd photos
@SecularIslamist
Well actually I think Greeks have more Barcin than the rest of Europe due to being closer to Anatolia, thus continuing to receive migrations from Anatolia as opposed to reaching the rest of Europe.What do you mean by white ?
Yes Greeks are more West Eurasian than Northern Euros
and White pheno came from West Eurasians.
However sexual selection is based on male performance
Byzantine anatolians had more light features than greek ones.
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MENA people have Zagrosian related DNA and we don't know if Zagrosians were entirely west eurasians since they had ANE and AASI(dravid) relates ancestry.Well actually I think Greeks have more Barcin than the rest of Europe due to being closer to Anatolia, thus continuing to receive migrations from Anatolia as opposed to reaching the rest of Europe.
And by this logic you are also saying that MENA people are more West Eurasian than northern Euros.
Then why aren’t Sardians whiter than northern Euros phenotypically?MENA people have Zagrosian related DNA and we don't know if Zagrosians were entirely west eurasians since they had ANE and AASI(dravid) relates ancestry.
Sardinians are the purest West Eurasian
Modern greeks have EHG DNA as wellThen why aren’t Sardians whiter than northern Euros phenotypically?
This whole theory does not make sense.
Sardinians are also mostly Anatolian Barcin, not Boncuklu.
Greeks also have additional Zagros dna (up to 10% in some regions). So they cannot be more West Eurasian than northern euros even genetically.
Well Greeks definitely have more Barcin as opposed to Boncuklu.Modern greeks have EHG DNA as well
At least from the greece ones
Cypriots and anatolian greeks are the ones who are closer to Southern Italians
NW europeans on the other hand are average 40% ANF 45% EHG and 10% WHG .EHG is half West Eurasian so technically NW Europeans are 75% West Eurasian with Hianbuan paternal ancestry.
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Sardinians are from Barcin
Boncuklu ANFs were lighter
I don't know if GA people had ancestry from Barcin or Boncuklu .
We don't know When Farmers migrated to Europe or Which group migrated when.
it seems farmers had too many phenotypes
Boncuklu ones def had lighter features than Barcin ones
And not only Cypriots, but Cretans and other islanders as well are closer to southern Italians. Some parts of the mainland too.Modern greeks have EHG DNA as well
At least from the greece ones
Cypriots and anatolian greeks are the ones who are closer to Southern Italians
NW europeans on the other hand are average 40% ANF 45% EHG and 10% WHG .EHG is half West Eurasian so technically NW Europeans are 75% West Eurasian with Hianbuan paternal ancestry.
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Sardinians are from Barcin
Boncuklu ANFs were lighter
I don't know if GA people had ancestry from Barcin or Boncuklu .
We don't know When Farmers migrated to Europe or Which group migrated when.
it seems farmers had too many phenotypes
Boncuklu ones def had lighter features than Barcin ones
And not only Cypriots, but Cretans and other islanders as well are closer to southern Italians. Some parts of the mainland too.
The Greeks closest to Balkaners are northern mainland.
As somebody who is around a lot of Greeks I can confirm thisWhite Turks are rare. But the white ones always try to fool people into believing that they are representative of the common Turk.
Turks have mixed genes but literally none of the genetic admixtures are truly white in the strictest sense. Not even the Greek or Caucasian part of their dna. I’ve seen plenty of Greeks who look more Arab than some Turks and vice-versa.
This is true same with the Romans that’s why when Sulla became dictator he was always referred to as ruddy man and pale and red because his skin was pale and his hair was red which is unusual for Romans which were DARKI believe native anatolians had white pheno before mixing with both turks and greeks
At least some of them had it
Otherwise there is no explanation for White looking people in Greece and Turkey since both have 50% Anatolian DNA
What also we know ancient greeks had mostly dark skin and for turks they were HAPA mixed race with combination of Sintashta and Siberian.
So straight to the point,Some Anatolians had light pheno
White is also a facial characteristic. Non-European features don’t count as white even if they have a white skin tone.
Why do niggas act like being pale alone makes u whitejfl I am also kinda pale as u can see yet u dont see me claim as white “MUHH ME WHITE SAAR”
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Us turks are Indian BVLLS , we aren't no cumskin boy@turkcelfatcel do you agree?