Turks are STILL genetically closer to non-Balkan/non-Italian Southern Europeans than to Arabians

[TheStonerOne]

These absurd, essentialist categories of "European" and "Middle Eastern" aren't actually supported by the data. There is too many variation and overlap between these groups to be labelled into vague clusters.

Genome-wide analysis of Corsican population reveals a close affinity with Northern and Central Italy - PMC

Despite being the fourth largest island in the Mediterranean basin, the genetic variation of Corsica has not been explored as exhaustively as Sardinia, which is situated only 11 km South. However, it is likely that the populations of the two islands ...

pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

This is the link to the study where I'll be getting my figures from.

Let's look at the data.

FST values between Turks and Saudis and Yemenis are 0.011 and 0.012 respectively.

FST values between Turks and French, French Provence, Spaniards and Portuguese are 0.007, 0.006, 0.007 and 0.007 respectively. Since there is a unique relationship between various Italians/various Balkans with Turks, I won't even delve into that.

Even when we use Azeris instead of Turks, little changes.

Hell, according to this study, even GERMANS are closer to Turks and Azeris than the latter two are to Arabians.

There's more of a "racial barrier" BETWEEN West Asia and Arabia than there is between Thrace and Anatolia.

These studies are just more evidence that "race" is just a social construct.

 

[SchizoidMaxxer]

TLDR;
Genetic data shows Turks are closer to Southern Europeans than to Arabians, with smaller FST distances to Spaniards, Portuguese, French, Italians, and even Germans than to Saudis or Yemenis, shwoing more separation between West Asia and Arabia than between Europe and Anatolia.

 

[dududutchy123]

TLDR;
Genetic data shows Turks are closer to Southern Europeans than to Arabians, with smaller FST distances to Spaniards, Portuguese, French, Italians, and even Germans than to Saudis or Yemenis, shwoing more separation between West Asia and Arabia than between Europe and Anatolia.

That’s because Anatolians mass raped Europe centuries ago, before civilization.

turks are very diversified with Greek/slav blood which is why they link closer with south Europe.

 

[TheStonerOne]

That’s because Anatolians mass raped Europe centuries ago, before civilization.

turks are very diversified with Greek/slav blood which is why they link closer with south Europe.

Except this still applies to Azeris. So the "Turks have Greek blood" idea doesn't have a basis. Besides, Greeks themselves are intermediaries between Europe and the Middle East.

 

[dududutchy123]

Except this still applies to Azeris. So the "Turks have Greek blood" idea doesn't have a basis. Besides, Greeks themselves are intermediaries between Europe and the Middle East.

Greeks are still Greeks for the most part. Their men mogs their women, it’s truly sad Greek women are very ugly

 

[Olivecel]

Turks still aren’t white. Neither are many southern euros.
To be white, you have to be of northern/western European ancestry. Plain and simple.
White= Germanic, Celtic, North Latin (French, Belgium and northern Italian), West Slavic (Polish, Czech, Slovak, Slovene, Croat). All else are not white, at least not fully.

 

[Olivecel]

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[TheStonerOne]

Turks still aren’t white. Neither are many southern euros.
To be white, you have to be of northern/western European ancestry. Plain and simple.
White= Germanic, Celtic, North Latin (French, Belgium and northern Italian), West Slavic (Polish, Czech, Slovak, Slovene, Croat). All else are not white, at least not fully.

It doesn't make sense to equate a Pole with a Sicilian IMO just cause they share the same continent (which isn't even 100% true since parts of Sicily are in North Africa).

Phenotype differences aside, the genetic distance between Poles and Sicilians is ~0.009 (one study suggested 0.01). Whereas the differences between Sicilians and Syrians is 0.004. Actually, what's even more hilarious is that the distance between Sicilians and Egyptians is 0.008. So Sicilians are closer to EGYPTIANS than they are to Poles and various Europeans.

Brutal for white supremacy.

 

[XazaqazaX]

One day, you will die.

 

[Olivecel]

It doesn't make sense to equate a Pole with a Sicilian IMO just cause they share the same continent (which isn't even 100% true since parts of Sicily are in North Africa).

Phenotype differences aside, the genetic distance between Poles and Sicilians is ~0.009 (one study suggested 0.01). Whereas the differences between Sicilians and Syrians is 0.004. Actually, what's even more hilarious is that the distance between Sicilians and Egyptians is 0.008. So Sicilians are closer to EGYPTIANS than they are to Poles and various Europeans.

Brutal for white supremacy.

I know that and that’s why I specifically stated that you must be of northern/western European ancestry in order to be considered fully white. All else are either mixed or flat out not white at all. Sicilians are not white. Greeks are not white. Albanians are not white. Jews are not white. Armenians are not white. Slavs are mixed but many are white (especially from Poland/Czechia/Slovakia).. and so on..
Turks especially are DEFINITELY not white. It shouldn’t even be questionable.

 

[hopecel]

I know that and that’s why I specifically stated that you must be of northern/western European ancestry in order to be considered fully white. All else are either mixed or flat out not white at all. Sicilians are not white. Greeks are not white. Albanians are not white. Jews are not white. Armenians are not white. Slavs are mixed but many are white (especially from Poland/Czechia/Slovakia).. and so on..
Turks especially are DEFINITELY not white. It shouldn’t even be questionable.

if you think like an European, you're European

that's why I consider secular Turks to be a part of modern Europe

 

[Olivecel]

if you think like an European, you're European

that's why I consider secular Turks to be a part of modern Europe

In that case secular Jews could be considered a part of modern Europe

 

[hopecel]

In that case secular Jews could be considered a part of modern Europe

they have no statehood in Europe