Ultimate guide to nasolabial folds: everything you need to know to prevent and correct.

- Nasolabial Folds -

1. Anatomy
2. Types and root causes
3. Correction
4. Prevention



What are nasolabial folds ?
What are the differents types of nasolabial folds, and which one do i have ?
what are the solutions to correct it?
(bonus) -> what can I do to prevent nasolabial folds?


All those questions will be answered during this thread.
the nasolabial sulcus is extremely important for facial structure and attractiveness,
make shure to read everything.


-Introduction-


The nasolabial folds (NFS) refer to the pair of skin creases extending bilaterally from the nasal wings to the corners of the mouth. These creases are demarcated by facial features that provide support to the buccal fat pad, establishing a distinctive division between the cheeks and the upper lip.

The nomenclature derives from the Latin words “nasus”, denoting the nose, and “labium”, signifying the lip. It is pertinent to acknowledge that the accurate anatomical term for this fold is actually melolabial fold, representing the crease between the cheek and the lip. Over the course of natural aging, these folds may exhibit an increase in both length and depth.

Do you believe me if i tell you that everyone would highly benefit from nasolabial correction?

Take brad Pitt for exemple, would he be attractive with deep folds on each sides of his midface ?
Hbz hottest men brad pitt gettyimages 144453867

No ? Damn right. No one would, so we have to correct it at all cost. Fortunately, that's excatly what we're doing today.

1. Anatomy

The nasolabial folds are characterized by lines resembling the Chinese character ‘八’, extending diagonally from the upper border of the nasolabial groove, situated between the nose and the cheek, toward both sides of the cheek. While colloquially referred to as nasolabial folds, categorizing them into three distinct types based on their underlying mechanisms provides valuable insights. ->

Tlchargement



->2. Types and root causes
its important to remember that the nasolabial fold should be treated according to the types of the nasolabial fold causes.

Diagnostics 14 00716 g001


nasolabial folds can be classified in 3 visually distinct types :
(A) delineates a depression in the paranasal region. ( in short: maxilla issue ).
(B) signifies a sagging or drooping of the nasolabial fat. ( in short : adiposal issue ).
(C) illustrates a crease formed due to the action of upper lip elevator muscles. ( in short : muscle issue ).

In depth explanations:
(use a mirror, make shure to be lean before diagnostic):


Type (A)
This cause is associated with a lack of volume in the area next to the nasal alar. It results in limited superficial fat beneath the nasolabial fold due to a recession of the canine fossa in the maxilla. This lead to a hollow appearance in the buccal area and the formation of deep lines. Pay a particular attention to the maxilla during the diagnostic of type(A).

exemples:

Tlchargement 2
Tlchargement 3




Type(B)
Attachment of the skin below and above the wrinkle line and the upper lip region. Skin below the wrinkle line is firmly attached to the underlying orbicularis oris muscle, resulting in diminished sagging. In contrast, the skin and tissues above the line are loosely connected, leading to sagging of the anterior buccal fat pad and a noticeable bulging appearance. With age, there is often an enlargement of the superficial fat above the wrinkle line and a reduction of the buccal fat below, creating a marked thickness contrast between the tissues above and below the wrinkle line.
pay a particular attention to the fat pads around the nose and around the interior part of the cheeks during the diagnostic of type(B).

exemples:

Tlchargement 9
Tlchargement 8




Type(C)
The third cause is primarily attributed to specific fibers of upper lip elevators, such as levator labii superioris alaeque nasi, levator labii superioris, and zygomaticus major and minor muscles.
Typically appear (very visible and can be uneven) when speaking , frowning, smiling. Little to not visible at rest.

exemple:
this type can be a little more tricky to diagnose, refer to the text description
Images 1



Resuming :
Screenshot 20241228 130640 ChatGPT


3. Solutions
invasive and non invasive procedures will be discussed, classed from best to worst by efficiency.
Pictures linked give a general insight of results, but are not always tied to the specific type of nasolabial fold.



type (A)

1. Dermal Fillers. ( last 6-18 months)
Injectable substances that restore volume to areas with fat loss, filling out deep lines or folds.

Pros: non surgical, immediate, can be reversed.
Cons: Temporary, risk of asymmetry or overfilling, expensive.


Tlchargement 12


2. Fat Grafting. (5-10 years)
Surgical procedure where fat is harvested from one area of the body and transferred to the face.

Pros: last long, natural, iocompatible.
Cons: requiere surgery, recovery period, risk of fat reabsorption.

Tlchargement 15


3. Facelift. (10-15 years)
Lifts and tightens facial tissues to reduce sagging and deep folds.

Pros: last very long, very effective for deep folds
Cons: Invasive, scarring, long recovery, cost

Tlchargement 17


4. Thread Lifting. (6-18 months)
uses threads to lift and tighten the skin, stimulate collagen production.

Pros: Minimally invasive, quick procedure, short recovery.
Cons: Temporary, risks of threads shifting or breaking.

Jan 17 2023 1 56 31 6 1200x900


5. Topical Skin Care.
retinoids, peptides, hyaluronic acid, vitamin c....


6. Facial Exercises.
cheek lift, resistance cheek press...

Dnr:

Screenshot 20241228 135617 ChatGPT




Type(B)


1. HIFU. (1-2 years)
Non-invasive treatment that uses ultrasound to stimulate collagen production, tightening the skin.

Pros: not invasive, tighter skin, effective.
Cons: Results take time to appear after procedure, may requiere multiple sessions.

Pre and post treatment images of nasolabial folds NLFs and marionette lines MLs


2. Radiofrequency. (6-12 months)
Non-invasive treatment that uses radiofrequency to heat the skin and stimulate collagen, improve skin tightness.

Pros: not invasive, no downtime, effective.
Cons: multiple treatments might be needed, not as effective if deep skin laxity.

Banda hv 007 scarlet 740


3. Biostimulators (e.g., Sculptra, Radiesse). (10-15 years)
Injections that stimulate collagen production, help to restore lost volume and improve skin texture over time.

Pros: Effective for significant sagging and skin laxity.
Cons: Invasive with risks like scarring, expensive, long recovery.

4 Radiesse before after nasolabial folds 1


4. Facelift or Mini-Facelift.
picture and description in type(A)

5. Laser Resurfacing. (1-2 years)
Laser that removes layers of skin to improve texture, tone, collagen production, while reducing signs of aging.

Pros: gradual and natural looking results, non surgical.
Cons: Results take time to appear, requiere multiple sessions, expensive.


1962222


6. Topical Treatments.
Caffeine drugs, niacinamide, retinoids, peptides, hyaluronic acid, vitamin a....



7. Facial Massage:
Puff and hold, cheek lifts, upper lip lift...


dnr:
Screenshot 20241228 135621 ChatGPT



Type(C)


1. Botox or Dysport. (3-6 months)
Injectable treatments that temporarily relax the muscles responsible for wrinkles caused by facial expression

Pros: Immediate, very effective for type(C), quick.
Cons: frequent touch-ups, over relaxation and facial "frozen look" risks.

Rsw 1280


2. Fillers for Compensation.
picture and description in type(A)



3. Thread Lifting.
picture and description in type(A)


4. Facial Relaxation Exercises.
Jaw relaxation stretch, lip tension release, nasolabial line stretch, opposite muscle activation, facial tapping therapy...


5. Myofascial Release or Massage.


6. Posture Correction.
Low effectiveness


7. Stress Management.
low effectiveness. Indirect effect.

dnr:
Screenshot 20241228 135629 ChatGPT


4. Nasolabial folds prevention
like a famous French cote say "mieux vaux prevenir que guérir" which means "prevention is better than cure", the best way to cure something is to never let the issue develop, and to prevent it.


-Skin elasticity and collagen-
Collagen and elastin are essential. As we age, the production of these proteins decreases, which leads to nasolabial folds.

What i advice:

-topical Retinoids
-antioxidants like vitamin c and E
-Hydratation
-moisturizers like hyaluronic acid with occlusive agents ( ceramides... )
-and of course : a powerful sunscreen.


-muscles-
Tzygomaticus major, orbicularis oris, and buccinator, play a key role in the formation of nasolabial folds.

What i advice:

-Botox
-targeted facial exercises("facial exercises for nasolabial folds" on YouTube)


-Volume maintenance in the midface-
there is a gradual loss of volume in the midface as we age, specifically in the cheek area
This volume loss causes the skin to sag downward, pulling the nasolabial fold deeper.



What i advice:

-facial fat grafting or fillers
-diet (vitamins, minerals, amino acids)

-Posture-
As you know, gravity is often the root of all problems when it comes to facial aging.

What i advice:

-Keep a straight posture during the day
Tlchargement 18

-sleep on the back

-weight-

-Keep a stable weight, ideally lean
-Facial massages.

Finally, make shure to avoid harsh compounds in contact of the skin, but thats common sense.



>Conclusion

I tried to keep this thread as short as possible. Make shure to read it all, it's mandatory for your
anderstanding.

Upvote if you liked this thread, I might do more in the futur.
Check my profile for my multiples others guides on voice, sarms, height, and much more.
That said, see you next time.
4585966 IMG 7992

@wsada @Orc @TechnoBoss @Underdog9494 @got.daim @Xsane @chadhamed @halloweed @zieligeik @valentine @ey88 @Bitchwhipper2 @BimaxLaser @fuxkdakikez @cucklek @Jonas2k7 , @Chadeep , @normie_joe
 

Attachments

  • téléchargement-1.jpeg
    téléchargement-1.jpeg
    4.7 KB · Views: 0
  • téléchargement-14.jpeg
    téléchargement-14.jpeg
    5.8 KB · Views: 0
  • +1
  • Love it
Reactions: TheBiggestIncelEver, NoLongerHuman, alphabet and 41 others
Looks good. Stickied
 
  • +1
Reactions: moggerofhumanity, taxidrivermaxxer, normie_joe and 4 others
another highiq mathis banger
 
  • +1
Reactions: skedd and mathis
All the molecules
 
  • +1
  • Love it
Reactions: halloweed and mathis
i can't see anything :lul:
 
  • +1
  • Woah
  • JFL
Reactions: PrinceofDarkness, moggerofhumanity, (In)CelibatePsycho2 and 2 others
anything for maxilla?
Yes, there's always orthodontic appliances, I preferred not to mention it, since nasolabial folds almost only concern adults and late teens, a time where it would not be more than mildly effective.
 
  • +1
Reactions: lucifer6969 and Axhar1
ts nigga always posting the best threads brah!!!😭😭😭😭🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻 never quit bro
 
  • Love it
  • +1
Reactions: cooldude1231 and mathis
Yes, there's always orthodontic appliances, I preferred not to mention it, since nasolabial folds almost only concern adults and late teens
too bad 2/3 of the stuff describe me. What orthodontic appliances are you thinking? Sandra Kahn Bow/Facepuller?
 
  • +1
Reactions: mathis
nasolabial folds aren't actually caused by a lack of volume in the area where the actual groove is in, this is a common misconception and also why cosmetologists haven't been able to fix them despite trying for a century while some autist gardener did.

they're caused by an excess of volume caused by migration right above the groove instead and the most effective solution is to remove the fat there as it's pretty much impossible to make it go back to where it originates from (it's from the area below your eyes, hence why almost everyone with nasolabial folds also has under-eye hollowing)

I would never suggest actually filling the groove of the nasolabial, because all it does is attempt to obscure an issue that's caused elsewhere by artificially inflating it with volume that was never supposed to be there.
 
  • +1
  • Love it
Reactions: SteveRogers, Alucard69, Clavicular and 5 others
BOTB approved from Ronaldo.
1000002340
 
  • Love it
Reactions: mathis
- Nasolabial Folds -

1. Anatomy
2. Types and root causes
3. Correction
4. Prevention



What are nasolabial folds ?
What are the differents types of nasolabial folds, and which one do i have ?
what are the solutions to correct it?
(bonus) -> what can I do to prevent nasolabial folds?


All those questions will be answered during this thread.
the nasolabial sulcus is extremely important for facial structure and attractiveness,
make shure to read everything.


-Introduction-


The nasolabial folds (NFS) refer to the pair of skin creases extending bilaterally from the nasal wings to the corners of the mouth. These creases are demarcated by facial features that provide support to the buccal fat pad, establishing a distinctive division between the cheeks and the upper lip.

The nomenclature derives from the Latin words “nasus”, denoting the nose, and “labium”, signifying the lip. It is pertinent to acknowledge that the accurate anatomical term for this fold is actually melolabial fold, representing the crease between the cheek and the lip. Over the course of natural aging, these folds may exhibit an increase in both length and depth.

Do you believe me if i tell you that everyone would highly benefit from nasolabial correction?

Take brad Pitt for exemple, would he be attractive with deep folds on each sides of his midface ?
View attachment 3386111
No ? Damn right. No one would, so we have to correct it at all cost. Fortunately, that's excatly what we're doing today.

1. Anatomy

The nasolabial folds are characterized by lines resembling the Chinese character ‘八’, extending diagonally from the upper border of the nasolabial groove, situated between the nose and the cheek, toward both sides of the cheek. While colloquially referred to as nasolabial folds, categorizing them into three distinct types based on their underlying mechanisms provides valuable insights. ->

View attachment 3385517


->2. Types and root causes
its important to remember that the nasolabial fold should be treated according to the types of the nasolabial fold causes.

View attachment 3385523

nasolabial folds can be classified in 3 visually distinct types :
(A) delineates a depression in the paranasal region. ( in short: maxilla issue ).
(B) signifies a sagging or drooping of the nasolabial fat. ( in short : adiposal issue ).
(C) illustrates a crease formed due to the action of upper lip elevator muscles. ( in short : muscle issue ).

In depth explanations:
(use a mirror, make shure to be lean before diagnostic):


Type (A)
This cause is associated with a lack of volume in the area next to the nasal alar. It results in limited superficial fat beneath the nasolabial fold due to a recession of the canine fossa in the maxilla. This lead to a hollow appearance in the buccal area and the formation of deep lines. Pay a particular attention to the maxilla during the diagnostic of type(A).

exemples:

View attachment 3385532View attachment 3385531



Type(B)
Attachment of the skin below and above the wrinkle line and the upper lip region. Skin below the wrinkle line is firmly attached to the underlying orbicularis oris muscle, resulting in diminished sagging. In contrast, the skin and tissues above the line are loosely connected, leading to sagging of the anterior buccal fat pad and a noticeable bulging appearance. With age, there is often an enlargement of the superficial fat above the wrinkle line and a reduction of the buccal fat below, creating a marked thickness contrast between the tissues above and below the wrinkle line.
pay a particular attention to the fat pads around the nose and around the interior part of the cheeks during the diagnostic of type(B).

exemples:

View attachment 3385553View attachment 3385544



Type(C)
The third cause is primarily attributed to specific fibers of upper lip elevators, such as levator labii superioris alaeque nasi, levator labii superioris, and zygomaticus major and minor muscles.
Typically appear (very visible and can be uneven) when speaking , frowning, smiling. Little to not visible at rest.

exemple:
this type can be a little more tricky to diagnose, refer to the text description
View attachment 3385558


Resuming :
View attachment 3385550

3. Solutions
invasive and non invasive procedures will be discussed, classed from best to worst by efficiency.
Pictures linked give a general insight of results, but are not always tied to the specific type of nasolabial fold.



type (A)

1. Dermal Fillers. ( last 6-18 months)
Injectable substances that restore volume to areas with fat loss, filling out deep lines or folds.

Pros: non surgical, immediate, can be reversed.
Cons: Temporary, risk of asymmetry or overfilling, expensive.


View attachment 3385675

2. Fat Grafting. (5-10 years)
Surgical procedure where fat is harvested from one area of the body and transferred to the face.

Pros: last long, natural, iocompatible.
Cons: requiere surgery, recovery period, risk of fat reabsorption.

View attachment 3385677

3. Facelift. (10-15 years)
Lifts and tightens facial tissues to reduce sagging and deep folds.

Pros: last very long, very effective for deep folds
Cons: Invasive, scarring, long recovery, cost

View attachment 3385685

4. Thread Lifting. (6-18 months)
uses threads to lift and tighten the skin, stimulate collagen production.

Pros: Minimally invasive, quick procedure, short recovery.
Cons: Temporary, risks of threads shifting or breaking.

View attachment 3385689

5. Topical Skin Care.
retinoids, peptides, hyaluronic acid, vitamin c....


6. Facial Exercises.
cheek lift, resistance cheek press...

Dnr:



1. HIFU. (1-2 years)
Non-invasive treatment that uses ultrasound to stimulate collagen production, tightening the skin.

Pros: not invasive, tighter skin, effective.
Cons: Results take time to appear after procedure, may requiere multiple sessions.

View attachment 3385729

2. Radiofrequency. (6-12 months)
Non-invasive treatment that uses radiofrequency to heat the skin and stimulate collagen, improve skin tightness.

Pros: not invasive, no downtime, effective.
Cons: multiple treatments might be needed, not as effective if deep skin laxity.

View attachment 3385734

3. Biostimulators (e.g., Sculptra, Radiesse). (10-15 years)
Injections that stimulate collagen production, help to restore lost volume and improve skin texture over time.

Pros: Effective for significant sagging and skin laxity.
Cons: Invasive with risks like scarring, expensive, long recovery.

View attachment 3385737

4. Facelift or Mini-Facelift.
picture and description in type(A)

5. Laser Resurfacing. (1-2 years)
Laser that removes layers of skin to improve texture, tone, collagen production, while reducing signs of aging.

Pros: gradual and natural looking results, non surgical.
Cons: Results take time to appear, requiere multiple sessions, expensive.


View attachment 3385740

6. Topical Treatments.
Caffeine drugs, niacinamide, retinoids, peptides, hyaluronic acid, vitamin a....



7. Facial Massage:
Puff and hold, cheek lifts, upper lip lift...


dnr:


1. Botox or Dysport. (3-6 months)
Injectable treatments that temporarily relax the muscles responsible for wrinkles caused by facial expression

Pros: Immediate, very effective for type(C), quick.
Cons: frequent touch-ups, over relaxation and facial "frozen look" risks.

View attachment 3385743

2. Fillers for Compensation.
picture and description in type(A)



3. Thread Lifting.
picture and description in type(A)


4. Facial Relaxation Exercises.
Jaw relaxation stretch, lip tension release, nasolabial line stretch, opposite muscle activation, facial tapping therapy...


5. Myofascial Release or Massage.


6. Posture Correction.
Low effectiveness


7. Stress Management.
low effectiveness. Indirect effect.

dnr:


4. Nasolabial folds prevention
like a famous French cote say "mieux vaux prevenir que guérir" which means "prevention is better than cure", the best way to cure something is to never let the issue develop, and to prevent it.


-Skin elasticity and collagen-
Collagen and elastin are essential. As we age, the production of these proteins decreases, which leads to nasolabial folds.

What i advice:

-topical Retinoids
-antioxidants like vitamin c and E
-Hydratation
-moisturizers like hyaluronic acid with occlusive agents ( ceramides... )
-and of course : a powerful sunscreen.


-muscles-
Tzygomaticus major, orbicularis oris, and buccinator, play a key role in the formation of nasolabial folds.

What i advice:

-Botox
-targeted facial exercises("facial exercises for nasolabial folds" on YouTube)


-Volume maintenance in the midface-
there is a gradual loss of volume in the midface as we age, specifically in the cheek area
This volume loss causes the skin to sag downward, pulling the nasolabial fold deeper.



What i advice:

-facial fat grafting or fillers
-diet (vitamins, minerals, amino acids)

-Posture-
As you know, gravity is often the root of all problems when it comes to facial aging.

What i advice:

-Keep a straight posture during the day
View attachment 3385850
-sleep on the back

-weight-

-Keep a stable weight, ideally lean
-Facial massages.

Finally, make shure to avoid harsh compounds in contact of the skin, but thats common sense.



>Conclusion

I tried to keep this thread as short as possible. Make shure to read it all, it's mandatory for your
anderstanding.

Upvote if you liked this thread, I might do more in the futur.
Check my profile for my multiples others guides on voice, sarms, height, and much more.
That said, see you next time.
View attachment 3385856
@wsada @Orc @TechnoBoss @Underdog9494 @got.daim @Xsane @chadhamed @halloweed @zieligeik @valentine @ey88 @Bitchwhipper2 @BimaxLaser @fuxkdakikez @cucklek @Jonas2k7 , @Chadeep , @normie_joe
Finished reading, good thread. Botox + diet + skincare = prevention, fillers = solution.
 
  • +1
Reactions: lestoa and mathis
nasolabial folds aren't actually caused by a lack of volume in the area where the actual groove is in, this is a common misconception and also why cosmetologists haven't been able to fix them despite trying for a century while some autist gardener did.

they're caused by an excess of volume caused by migration right above the groove instead and the most effective solution is to remove the fat there as it's pretty much impossible to make it go back to where it originates from (it's from the area below your eyes, hence why almost everyone with nasolabial folds also has under-eye hollowing)

I would never suggest actually filling the groove of the nasolabial, because all it does is attempt to obscure an issue that's caused elsewhere by artificially inflating it with volume that was never supposed to be there.
Ever heard of deep plane facelifts ?
 
Yeah, you got the idea.
I don’t understand why you typed you have to get lean before assessment because nasolabial folds may be more prominent when lowering bf %.
 
  • +1
Reactions: mathis
I don’t understand why you typed you have to get lean before assessment because nasolabial folds may be more prominent when lowering bf %.
Weight loss actually reduce the appearance of nasolabial folds in most cases( fat accumulation above the folds )Also make it easier to determine which type you've got.
 
  • +1
Reactions: BoredPrince and halloweed
I’ve been injecting aqualyx into the fat pads above the crease of nasal fold. Thoughts on that? Haven’t been doing it a while and been doing small doses but going to keep doing it.

I’m type B here
 
  • +1
Reactions: mathis
I’ve been injecting aqualyx into the fat pads above the crease of nasal fold. Thoughts on that? Haven’t been doing it a while and been doing small doses but going to keep doing it.

I’m type B here
Can work if you do it right.
 
  • +1
Reactions: skkrrrtcantdo
Ever heard of deep plane facelifts ?
composite face lift is what you're looking for but it's insanely invasive and basically a fat transfer (they slice it off entirely and just sow it back) and it has the same issues as a normal fat transfer.
 
  • +1
Reactions: Underdog9494 and mathis
Forward growth isn't what matters when concidering nasolabial folds.
wait what? I got a 45-50mm palate but still folds. I thought it's related to recession rather than width
 
  • +1
Reactions: Underdog9494
Good thread
 
  • +1
Reactions: Underdog9494 and mathis
- Nasolabial Folds -

1. Anatomy
2. Types and root causes
3. Correction
4. Prevention



What are nasolabial folds ?
What are the differents types of nasolabial folds, and which one do i have ?
what are the solutions to correct it?
(bonus) -> what can I do to prevent nasolabial folds?


All those questions will be answered during this thread.
the nasolabial sulcus is extremely important for facial structure and attractiveness,
make shure to read everything.


-Introduction-


The nasolabial folds (NFS) refer to the pair of skin creases extending bilaterally from the nasal wings to the corners of the mouth. These creases are demarcated by facial features that provide support to the buccal fat pad, establishing a distinctive division between the cheeks and the upper lip.

The nomenclature derives from the Latin words “nasus”, denoting the nose, and “labium”, signifying the lip. It is pertinent to acknowledge that the accurate anatomical term for this fold is actually melolabial fold, representing the crease between the cheek and the lip. Over the course of natural aging, these folds may exhibit an increase in both length and depth.

Do you believe me if i tell you that everyone would highly benefit from nasolabial correction?

Take brad Pitt for exemple, would he be attractive with deep folds on each sides of his midface ?
View attachment 3386111
No ? Damn right. No one would, so we have to correct it at all cost. Fortunately, that's excatly what we're doing today.

1. Anatomy

The nasolabial folds are characterized by lines resembling the Chinese character ‘八’, extending diagonally from the upper border of the nasolabial groove, situated between the nose and the cheek, toward both sides of the cheek. While colloquially referred to as nasolabial folds, categorizing them into three distinct types based on their underlying mechanisms provides valuable insights. ->

View attachment 3385517


->2. Types and root causes
its important to remember that the nasolabial fold should be treated according to the types of the nasolabial fold causes.

View attachment 3385523

nasolabial folds can be classified in 3 visually distinct types :
(A) delineates a depression in the paranasal region. ( in short: maxilla issue ).
(B) signifies a sagging or drooping of the nasolabial fat. ( in short : adiposal issue ).
(C) illustrates a crease formed due to the action of upper lip elevator muscles. ( in short : muscle issue ).

In depth explanations:
(use a mirror, make shure to be lean before diagnostic):


Type (A)
This cause is associated with a lack of volume in the area next to the nasal alar. It results in limited superficial fat beneath the nasolabial fold due to a recession of the canine fossa in the maxilla. This lead to a hollow appearance in the buccal area and the formation of deep lines. Pay a particular attention to the maxilla during the diagnostic of type(A).

exemples:

View attachment 3385532View attachment 3385531



Type(B)
Attachment of the skin below and above the wrinkle line and the upper lip region. Skin below the wrinkle line is firmly attached to the underlying orbicularis oris muscle, resulting in diminished sagging. In contrast, the skin and tissues above the line are loosely connected, leading to sagging of the anterior buccal fat pad and a noticeable bulging appearance. With age, there is often an enlargement of the superficial fat above the wrinkle line and a reduction of the buccal fat below, creating a marked thickness contrast between the tissues above and below the wrinkle line.
pay a particular attention to the fat pads around the nose and around the interior part of the cheeks during the diagnostic of type(B).

exemples:

View attachment 3385553View attachment 3385544



Type(C)
The third cause is primarily attributed to specific fibers of upper lip elevators, such as levator labii superioris alaeque nasi, levator labii superioris, and zygomaticus major and minor muscles.
Typically appear (very visible and can be uneven) when speaking , frowning, smiling. Little to not visible at rest.

exemple:
this type can be a little more tricky to diagnose, refer to the text description
View attachment 3385558


Resuming :
View attachment 3385550

3. Solutions
invasive and non invasive procedures will be discussed, classed from best to worst by efficiency.
Pictures linked give a general insight of results, but are not always tied to the specific type of nasolabial fold.



type (A)

1. Dermal Fillers. ( last 6-18 months)
Injectable substances that restore volume to areas with fat loss, filling out deep lines or folds.

Pros: non surgical, immediate, can be reversed.
Cons: Temporary, risk of asymmetry or overfilling, expensive.


View attachment 3385675

2. Fat Grafting. (5-10 years)
Surgical procedure where fat is harvested from one area of the body and transferred to the face.

Pros: last long, natural, iocompatible.
Cons: requiere surgery, recovery period, risk of fat reabsorption.

View attachment 3385677

3. Facelift. (10-15 years)
Lifts and tightens facial tissues to reduce sagging and deep folds.

Pros: last very long, very effective for deep folds
Cons: Invasive, scarring, long recovery, cost

View attachment 3385685

4. Thread Lifting. (6-18 months)
uses threads to lift and tighten the skin, stimulate collagen production.

Pros: Minimally invasive, quick procedure, short recovery.
Cons: Temporary, risks of threads shifting or breaking.

View attachment 3385689

5. Topical Skin Care.
retinoids, peptides, hyaluronic acid, vitamin c....


6. Facial Exercises.
cheek lift, resistance cheek press...

Dnr:



1. HIFU. (1-2 years)
Non-invasive treatment that uses ultrasound to stimulate collagen production, tightening the skin.

Pros: not invasive, tighter skin, effective.
Cons: Results take time to appear after procedure, may requiere multiple sessions.

View attachment 3385729

2. Radiofrequency. (6-12 months)
Non-invasive treatment that uses radiofrequency to heat the skin and stimulate collagen, improve skin tightness.

Pros: not invasive, no downtime, effective.
Cons: multiple treatments might be needed, not as effective if deep skin laxity.

View attachment 3385734

3. Biostimulators (e.g., Sculptra, Radiesse). (10-15 years)
Injections that stimulate collagen production, help to restore lost volume and improve skin texture over time.

Pros: Effective for significant sagging and skin laxity.
Cons: Invasive with risks like scarring, expensive, long recovery.

View attachment 3385737

4. Facelift or Mini-Facelift.
picture and description in type(A)

5. Laser Resurfacing. (1-2 years)
Laser that removes layers of skin to improve texture, tone, collagen production, while reducing signs of aging.

Pros: gradual and natural looking results, non surgical.
Cons: Results take time to appear, requiere multiple sessions, expensive.


View attachment 3385740

6. Topical Treatments.
Caffeine drugs, niacinamide, retinoids, peptides, hyaluronic acid, vitamin a....



7. Facial Massage:
Puff and hold, cheek lifts, upper lip lift...


dnr:


1. Botox or Dysport. (3-6 months)
Injectable treatments that temporarily relax the muscles responsible for wrinkles caused by facial expression

Pros: Immediate, very effective for type(C), quick.
Cons: frequent touch-ups, over relaxation and facial "frozen look" risks.

View attachment 3385743

2. Fillers for Compensation.
picture and description in type(A)



3. Thread Lifting.
picture and description in type(A)


4. Facial Relaxation Exercises.
Jaw relaxation stretch, lip tension release, nasolabial line stretch, opposite muscle activation, facial tapping therapy...


5. Myofascial Release or Massage.


6. Posture Correction.
Low effectiveness


7. Stress Management.
low effectiveness. Indirect effect.

dnr:


4. Nasolabial folds prevention
like a famous French cote say "mieux vaux prevenir que guérir" which means "prevention is better than cure", the best way to cure something is to never let the issue develop, and to prevent it.


-Skin elasticity and collagen-
Collagen and elastin are essential. As we age, the production of these proteins decreases, which leads to nasolabial folds.

What i advice:

-topical Retinoids
-antioxidants like vitamin c and E
-Hydratation
-moisturizers like hyaluronic acid with occlusive agents ( ceramides... )
-and of course : a powerful sunscreen.


-muscles-
Tzygomaticus major, orbicularis oris, and buccinator, play a key role in the formation of nasolabial folds.

What i advice:

-Botox
-targeted facial exercises("facial exercises for nasolabial folds" on YouTube)


-Volume maintenance in the midface-
there is a gradual loss of volume in the midface as we age, specifically in the cheek area
This volume loss causes the skin to sag downward, pulling the nasolabial fold deeper.



What i advice:

-facial fat grafting or fillers
-diet (vitamins, minerals, amino acids)

-Posture-
As you know, gravity is often the root of all problems when it comes to facial aging.

What i advice:

-Keep a straight posture during the day
View attachment 3385850
-sleep on the back

-weight-

-Keep a stable weight, ideally lean
-Facial massages.

Finally, make shure to avoid harsh compounds in contact of the skin, but thats common sense.



>Conclusion

I tried to keep this thread as short as possible. Make shure to read it all, it's mandatory for your
anderstanding.

Upvote if you liked this thread, I might do more in the futur.
Check my profile for my multiples others guides on voice, sarms, height, and much more.
That said, see you next time.
View attachment 3385856
@wsada @Orc @TechnoBoss @Underdog9494 @got.daim @Xsane @chadhamed @halloweed @zieligeik @valentine @ey88 @Bitchwhipper2 @BimaxLaser @fuxkdakikez @cucklek @Jonas2k7 , @Chadeep , @normie_joe
Water
 
  • +1
Reactions: N1666
@Alexanderr do you think this thread could be worth BOTB ? it's the best thread on the subject are far as i know.
 
  • +1
Reactions: Alexanderr
@Alexanderr do you think this thread could be worth BOTB ? it's the best thread on the subject are far as i know.
It might, give me some time to check.
 
  • Love it
Reactions: mathis
@Alexanderr will never thanks you enough. I love you man:Comfy:
 
  • +1
Reactions: Alexanderr
New BOTB thread before GTA 6
 
  • Love it
Reactions: mathis
- Nasolabial Folds -

1. Anatomy
2. Types and root causes
3. Correction
4. Prevention



What are nasolabial folds ?
What are the differents types of nasolabial folds, and which one do i have ?
what are the solutions to correct it?
(bonus) -> what can I do to prevent nasolabial folds?


All those questions will be answered during this thread.
the nasolabial sulcus is extremely important for facial structure and attractiveness,
make shure to read everything.


-Introduction-


The nasolabial folds (NFS) refer to the pair of skin creases extending bilaterally from the nasal wings to the corners of the mouth. These creases are demarcated by facial features that provide support to the buccal fat pad, establishing a distinctive division between the cheeks and the upper lip.

The nomenclature derives from the Latin words “nasus”, denoting the nose, and “labium”, signifying the lip. It is pertinent to acknowledge that the accurate anatomical term for this fold is actually melolabial fold, representing the crease between the cheek and the lip. Over the course of natural aging, these folds may exhibit an increase in both length and depth.

Do you believe me if i tell you that everyone would highly benefit from nasolabial correction?

Take brad Pitt for exemple, would he be attractive with deep folds on each sides of his midface ?
View attachment 3386111
No ? Damn right. No one would, so we have to correct it at all cost. Fortunately, that's excatly what we're doing today.

1. Anatomy

The nasolabial folds are characterized by lines resembling the Chinese character ‘八’, extending diagonally from the upper border of the nasolabial groove, situated between the nose and the cheek, toward both sides of the cheek. While colloquially referred to as nasolabial folds, categorizing them into three distinct types based on their underlying mechanisms provides valuable insights. ->

View attachment 3385517


->2. Types and root causes
its important to remember that the nasolabial fold should be treated according to the types of the nasolabial fold causes.

View attachment 3385523

nasolabial folds can be classified in 3 visually distinct types :
(A) delineates a depression in the paranasal region. ( in short: maxilla issue ).
(B) signifies a sagging or drooping of the nasolabial fat. ( in short : adiposal issue ).
(C) illustrates a crease formed due to the action of upper lip elevator muscles. ( in short : muscle issue ).

In depth explanations:
(use a mirror, make shure to be lean before diagnostic):


Type (A)
This cause is associated with a lack of volume in the area next to the nasal alar. It results in limited superficial fat beneath the nasolabial fold due to a recession of the canine fossa in the maxilla. This lead to a hollow appearance in the buccal area and the formation of deep lines. Pay a particular attention to the maxilla during the diagnostic of type(A).

exemples:

View attachment 3385532View attachment 3385531



Type(B)
Attachment of the skin below and above the wrinkle line and the upper lip region. Skin below the wrinkle line is firmly attached to the underlying orbicularis oris muscle, resulting in diminished sagging. In contrast, the skin and tissues above the line are loosely connected, leading to sagging of the anterior buccal fat pad and a noticeable bulging appearance. With age, there is often an enlargement of the superficial fat above the wrinkle line and a reduction of the buccal fat below, creating a marked thickness contrast between the tissues above and below the wrinkle line.
pay a particular attention to the fat pads around the nose and around the interior part of the cheeks during the diagnostic of type(B).

exemples:

View attachment 3385553View attachment 3385544



Type(C)
The third cause is primarily attributed to specific fibers of upper lip elevators, such as levator labii superioris alaeque nasi, levator labii superioris, and zygomaticus major and minor muscles.
Typically appear (very visible and can be uneven) when speaking , frowning, smiling. Little to not visible at rest.

exemple:
this type can be a little more tricky to diagnose, refer to the text description
View attachment 3385558


Resuming :
View attachment 3385550

3. Solutions
invasive and non invasive procedures will be discussed, classed from best to worst by efficiency.
Pictures linked give a general insight of results, but are not always tied to the specific type of nasolabial fold.



type (A)

1. Dermal Fillers. ( last 6-18 months)
Injectable substances that restore volume to areas with fat loss, filling out deep lines or folds.

Pros: non surgical, immediate, can be reversed.
Cons: Temporary, risk of asymmetry or overfilling, expensive.


View attachment 3385675

2. Fat Grafting. (5-10 years)
Surgical procedure where fat is harvested from one area of the body and transferred to the face.

Pros: last long, natural, iocompatible.
Cons: requiere surgery, recovery period, risk of fat reabsorption.

View attachment 3385677

3. Facelift. (10-15 years)
Lifts and tightens facial tissues to reduce sagging and deep folds.

Pros: last very long, very effective for deep folds
Cons: Invasive, scarring, long recovery, cost

View attachment 3385685

4. Thread Lifting. (6-18 months)
uses threads to lift and tighten the skin, stimulate collagen production.

Pros: Minimally invasive, quick procedure, short recovery.
Cons: Temporary, risks of threads shifting or breaking.

View attachment 3385689

5. Topical Skin Care.
retinoids, peptides, hyaluronic acid, vitamin c....


6. Facial Exercises.
cheek lift, resistance cheek press...

Dnr:



1. HIFU. (1-2 years)
Non-invasive treatment that uses ultrasound to stimulate collagen production, tightening the skin.

Pros: not invasive, tighter skin, effective.
Cons: Results take time to appear after procedure, may requiere multiple sessions.

View attachment 3385729

2. Radiofrequency. (6-12 months)
Non-invasive treatment that uses radiofrequency to heat the skin and stimulate collagen, improve skin tightness.

Pros: not invasive, no downtime, effective.
Cons: multiple treatments might be needed, not as effective if deep skin laxity.

View attachment 3385734

3. Biostimulators (e.g., Sculptra, Radiesse). (10-15 years)
Injections that stimulate collagen production, help to restore lost volume and improve skin texture over time.

Pros: Effective for significant sagging and skin laxity.
Cons: Invasive with risks like scarring, expensive, long recovery.

View attachment 3385737

4. Facelift or Mini-Facelift.
picture and description in type(A)

5. Laser Resurfacing. (1-2 years)
Laser that removes layers of skin to improve texture, tone, collagen production, while reducing signs of aging.

Pros: gradual and natural looking results, non surgical.
Cons: Results take time to appear, requiere multiple sessions, expensive.


View attachment 3385740

6. Topical Treatments.
Caffeine drugs, niacinamide, retinoids, peptides, hyaluronic acid, vitamin a....



7. Facial Massage:
Puff and hold, cheek lifts, upper lip lift...


dnr:


1. Botox or Dysport. (3-6 months)
Injectable treatments that temporarily relax the muscles responsible for wrinkles caused by facial expression

Pros: Immediate, very effective for type(C), quick.
Cons: frequent touch-ups, over relaxation and facial "frozen look" risks.

View attachment 3385743

2. Fillers for Compensation.
picture and description in type(A)



3. Thread Lifting.
picture and description in type(A)


4. Facial Relaxation Exercises.
Jaw relaxation stretch, lip tension release, nasolabial line stretch, opposite muscle activation, facial tapping therapy...


5. Myofascial Release or Massage.


6. Posture Correction.
Low effectiveness


7. Stress Management.
low effectiveness. Indirect effect.

dnr:


4. Nasolabial folds prevention
like a famous French cote say "mieux vaux prevenir que guérir" which means "prevention is better than cure", the best way to cure something is to never let the issue develop, and to prevent it.


-Skin elasticity and collagen-
Collagen and elastin are essential. As we age, the production of these proteins decreases, which leads to nasolabial folds.

What i advice:

-topical Retinoids
-antioxidants like vitamin c and E
-Hydratation
-moisturizers like hyaluronic acid with occlusive agents ( ceramides... )
-and of course : a powerful sunscreen.


-muscles-
Tzygomaticus major, orbicularis oris, and buccinator, play a key role in the formation of nasolabial folds.

What i advice:

-Botox
-targeted facial exercises("facial exercises for nasolabial folds" on YouTube)


-Volume maintenance in the midface-
there is a gradual loss of volume in the midface as we age, specifically in the cheek area
This volume loss causes the skin to sag downward, pulling the nasolabial fold deeper.



What i advice:

-facial fat grafting or fillers
-diet (vitamins, minerals, amino acids)

-Posture-
As you know, gravity is often the root of all problems when it comes to facial aging.

What i advice:

-Keep a straight posture during the day
View attachment 3385850
-sleep on the back

-weight-

-Keep a stable weight, ideally lean
-Facial massages.

Finally, make shure to avoid harsh compounds in contact of the skin, but thats common sense.



>Conclusion

I tried to keep this thread as short as possible. Make shure to read it all, it's mandatory for your
anderstanding.

Upvote if you liked this thread, I might do more in the futur.
Check my profile for my multiples others guides on voice, sarms, height, and much more.
That said, see you next time.
View attachment 3385856
@wsada @Orc @TechnoBoss @Underdog9494 @got.daim @Xsane @chadhamed @halloweed @zieligeik @valentine @ey88 @Bitchwhipper2 @BimaxLaser @fuxkdakikez @cucklek @Jonas2k7 , @Chadeep , @normie_joe
How would Volufiline help this? Like would there be noticeable difference, where would i need to apply?
 
How would Volufiline help this? Like would there be noticeable difference, where would i need to apply?
It would make no difference for those mains reasons :

-not proven enough
-if working chances are the created fat would be invisible
-created fat would deseapear with weight changes, which is very inconvenient, results if any, would only last while using even without that aspect.
-only work if enough pre-existing adiposal cells
 
It would make no difference for those mains reasons :

-not proven enough
-if working chances are the created fat would be invisible
-created fat would deseapear with weight changes, which is very inconvenient, results if any, would only last while using even without that aspect.
-only work if enough pre-existing adiposal cells
Okay thank you, bc i sae some ppl on teddit who got good results let me send u the link
 
  • +1
Reactions: mathis
It would make no difference for those mains reasons :

-not proven enough
-if working chances are the created fat would be invisible
-created fat would deseapear with weight changes, which is very inconvenient, results if any, would only last while using even without that aspect.
-only work if enough pre-existing adiposal cell
Start chat or conversation?
 
Shit thread
 
  • JFL
  • +1
Reactions: magdel, mathis and taxidrivermaxxer
Good thread but I'm still confused as to how mine are so terrible. I think it's because of my teeth
 
  • +1
Reactions: mathis
IMG 0509
What a website
 
  • JFL
Reactions: Timmy. and halloweed
  • Love it
Reactions: moggerofhumanity and mathis
Bro made it to BOTB :feelshah:. Congrats bro @mathis 😎
 
  • Love it
Reactions: mathis

Similar threads

Jonas2k7
Replies
42
Views
2K
IrishSlayer1483
I
PrimalPlasty
Replies
88
Views
2K
Alex_notmogging
Alex_notmogging
N1666
Replies
76
Views
4K
omnilegent
omnilegent

Users who are viewing this thread

  • scarrfxce
  • Bheji
  • fzris
  • dadoasr
Back
Top