Ultimate guide to nasolabial folds: everything you need to know to prevent and correct.

Niko. · Sunday at 10:39 AM

mathis said:
a powerful sunscreen.

Low IQ

mathis said:
- Nasolabial Folds -

1. Anatomy
2. Types and root causes
3. Correction
4. Prevention

What are nasolabial folds ?
What are the differents types of nasolabial folds, and which one do i have ?
what are the solutions to correct it?
(bonus) -> what can I do to prevent nasolabial folds?

All those questions will be answered during this thread.
the nasolabial sulcus is extremely important for facial structure and attractiveness,
make shure to read everything.

-Introduction-

The nasolabial folds (NFS) refer to the pair of skin creases extending bilaterally from the nasal wings to the corners of the mouth. These creases are demarcated by facial features that provide support to the buccal fat pad, establishing a distinctive division between the cheeks and the upper lip.

The nomenclature derives from the Latin words “nasus”, denoting the nose, and “labium”, signifying the lip. It is pertinent to acknowledge that the accurate anatomical term for this fold is actually melolabial fold, representing the crease between the cheek and the lip. Over the course of natural aging, these folds may exhibit an increase in both length and depth.

Do you believe me if i tell you that everyone would highly benefit from nasolabial correction?

Take brad Pitt for exemple, would he be attractive with deep folds on each sides of his midface ?
View attachment 3386111
No ? Damn right. No one would, so we have to correct it at all cost. Fortunately, that's excatly what we're doing today.

1. Anatomy

The nasolabial folds are characterized by lines resembling the Chinese character ‘八’, extending diagonally from the upper border of the nasolabial groove, situated between the nose and the cheek, toward both sides of the cheek. While colloquially referred to as nasolabial folds, categorizing them into three distinct types based on their underlying mechanisms provides valuable insights. ->

View attachment 3385517

->2. Types and root causes
its important to remember that the nasolabial fold should be treated according to the types of the nasolabial fold causes.

View attachment 3385523

nasolabial folds can be classified in 3 visually distinct types :
(A) delineates a depression in the paranasal region. ( in short: maxilla issue ).
(B) signifies a sagging or drooping of the nasolabial fat. ( in short : adiposal issue ).
(C) illustrates a crease formed due to the action of upper lip elevator muscles. ( in short : muscle issue ).

In depth explanations:
(use a mirror, make shure to be lean before diagnostic):

Type (A)
This cause is associated with a lack of volume in the area next to the nasal alar. It results in limited superficial fat beneath the nasolabial fold due to a recession of the canine fossa in the maxilla. This lead to a hollow appearance in the buccal area and the formation of deep lines. Pay a particular attention to the maxilla during the diagnostic of type(A).

exemples:

View attachment 3385532 View attachment 3385531

Type(B)
Attachment of the skin below and above the wrinkle line and the upper lip region. Skin below the wrinkle line is firmly attached to the underlying orbicularis oris muscle, resulting in diminished sagging. In contrast, the skin and tissues above the line are loosely connected, leading to sagging of the anterior buccal fat pad and a noticeable bulging appearance. With age, there is often an enlargement of the superficial fat above the wrinkle line and a reduction of the buccal fat below, creating a marked thickness contrast between the tissues above and below the wrinkle line.
pay a particular attention to the fat pads around the nose and around the interior part of the cheeks during the diagnostic of type(B).

exemples:

View attachment 3385553 View attachment 3385544

Type(C)
The third cause is primarily attributed to specific fibers of upper lip elevators, such as levator labii superioris alaeque nasi, levator labii superioris, and zygomaticus major and minor muscles.
Typically appear (very visible and can be uneven) when speaking , frowning, smiling. Little to not visible at rest.

exemple:
this type can be a little more tricky to diagnose, refer to the text description
View attachment 3385558

Resuming :
View attachment 3385550

3. Solutions
invasive and non invasive procedures will be discussed, classed from best to worst by efficiency.
Pictures linked give a general insight of results, but are not always tied to the specific type of nasolabial fold.

type (A)

1. Dermal Fillers. ( last 6-18 months)
Injectable substances that restore volume to areas with fat loss, filling out deep lines or folds.

Pros: non surgical, immediate, can be reversed.
Cons: Temporary, risk of asymmetry or overfilling, expensive.

View attachment 3385675

2. Fat Grafting. (5-10 years)
Surgical procedure where fat is harvested from one area of the body and transferred to the face.

Pros: last long, natural, iocompatible.
Cons: requiere surgery, recovery period, risk of fat reabsorption.

View attachment 3385677

3. Facelift. (10-15 years)
Lifts and tightens facial tissues to reduce sagging and deep folds.

Pros: last very long, very effective for deep folds
Cons: Invasive, scarring, long recovery, cost

View attachment 3385685

4. Thread Lifting. (6-18 months)
uses threads to lift and tighten the skin, stimulate collagen production.

Pros: Minimally invasive, quick procedure, short recovery.
Cons: Temporary, risks of threads shifting or breaking.

View attachment 3385689

5. Topical Skin Care.
retinoids, peptides, hyaluronic acid, vitamin c....

6. Facial Exercises.
cheek lift, resistance cheek press...

Dnr:

View attachment 3385670

Type(B)

1. HIFU. (1-2 years)
Non-invasive treatment that uses ultrasound to stimulate collagen production, tightening the skin.

Pros: not invasive, tighter skin, effective.
Cons: Results take time to appear after procedure, may requiere multiple sessions.

View attachment 3385729

2. Radiofrequency. (6-12 months)
Non-invasive treatment that uses radiofrequency to heat the skin and stimulate collagen, improve skin tightness.

Pros: not invasive, no downtime, effective.
Cons: multiple treatments might be needed, not as effective if deep skin laxity.

View attachment 3385734

3. Biostimulators (e.g., Sculptra, Radiesse). (10-15 years)
Injections that stimulate collagen production, help to restore lost volume and improve skin texture over time.

Pros: Effective for significant sagging and skin laxity.
Cons: Invasive with risks like scarring, expensive, long recovery.

View attachment 3385737

4. Facelift or Mini-Facelift.
picture and description in type(A)

5. Laser Resurfacing. (1-2 years)
Laser that removes layers of skin to improve texture, tone, collagen production, while reducing signs of aging.

Pros: gradual and natural looking results, non surgical.
Cons: Results take time to appear, requiere multiple sessions, expensive.

View attachment 3385740

6. Topical Treatments.
Caffeine drugs, niacinamide, retinoids, peptides, hyaluronic acid, vitamin a....

7. Facial Massage:
Puff and hold, cheek lifts, upper lip lift...

dnr:

View attachment 3385695

Type(C)

1. Botox or Dysport. (3-6 months)
Injectable treatments that temporarily relax the muscles responsible for wrinkles caused by facial expression

Pros: Immediate, very effective for type(C), quick.
Cons: frequent touch-ups, over relaxation and facial "frozen look" risks.

View attachment 3385743

2. Fillers for Compensation.
picture and description in type(A)

3. Thread Lifting.
picture and description in type(A)

4. Facial Relaxation Exercises.
Jaw relaxation stretch, lip tension release, nasolabial line stretch, opposite muscle activation, facial tapping therapy...

5. Myofascial Release or Massage.

6. Posture Correction.
Low effectiveness

7. Stress Management.
low effectiveness. Indirect effect.

dnr:

View attachment 3385698

4. Nasolabial folds prevention
like a famous French cote say "mieux vaux prevenir que guérir" which means "prevention is better than cure", the best way to cure something is to never let the issue develop, and to prevent it.

-Skin elasticity and collagen-
Collagen and elastin are essential. As we age, the production of these proteins decreases, which leads to nasolabial folds.

What i advice:

-topical Retinoids
-antioxidants like vitamin c and E
-Hydratation
-moisturizers like hyaluronic acid with occlusive agents ( ceramides... )
-and of course : a powerful sunscreen.

-muscles-
Tzygomaticus major, orbicularis oris, and buccinator, play a key role in the formation of nasolabial folds.

What i advice:

-Botox
-targeted facial exercises("facial exercises for nasolabial folds" on YouTube)

-Volume maintenance in the midface-
there is a gradual loss of volume in the midface as we age, specifically in the cheek area
This volume loss causes the skin to sag downward, pulling the nasolabial fold deeper.

What i advice:

-facial fat grafting or fillers
-diet (vitamins, minerals, amino acids)

-Posture-
As you know, gravity is often the root of all problems when it comes to facial aging.

What i advice:

-Keep a straight posture during the day
View attachment 3385850
-sleep on the back

-weight-

-Keep a stable weight, ideally lean
-Facial massages.

Finally, make shure to avoid harsh compounds in contact of the skin, but thats common sense.

>Conclusion

I tried to keep this thread as short as possible. Make shure to read it all, it's mandatory for your
anderstanding.

Upvote if you liked this thread, I might do more in the futur.
Check my profile for my multiples others guides on voice, sarms, height, and much more.
That said, see you next time.
View attachment 3385856

@wsada @Orc @TechnoBoss @Underdog9494 @got.daim @Xsane @chadhamed @halloweed @zieligeik @valentine @ey88 @Bitchwhipper2 @BimaxLaser @fuxkdakikez @cucklek @Jonas2k7 , @Chadeep , @normie_joe

Good thread tho

mathis · Sunday at 10:39 AM

Niko. said:
Low IQ

Why is that

Niko. · Sunday at 11:25 AM

mathis said:
Why is that

The sun is life, you don't need to protect yourself from it

Blond3cel · Sunday at 1:24 PM

Niko. said:
The sun is life, you don't need to protect yourself from it

Yep your a special fella.
There is so much evidence that to much Sunlight ages you like crazy.

Give me your proof that Sunlight doesnt damage you if you get to much of it.

moggerofhumanity · Sunday at 4:36 PM

Orc said:
nasolabial folds aren't actually caused by a lack of volume in the area where the actual groove is in, this is a common misconception and also why cosmetologists haven't been able to fix them despite trying for a century while some autist gardener did.

they're caused by an excess of volume caused by migration right above the groove instead and the most effective solution is to remove the fat there as it's pretty much impossible to make it go back to where it originates from (it's from the area below your eyes, hence why almost everyone with nasolabial folds also has under-eye hollowing)

I would never suggest actually filling the groove of the nasolabial, because all it does is attempt to obscure an issue that's caused elsewhere by artificially inflating it with volume that was never supposed to be there.

I used hear people say that people with no undereye support usually don't have or very little of nasolabial folds. I just now made that connection. I believe this now.

germanmogger · Monday at 1:14 PM

I highly recommend cog threads, but u need someone to insert them, it’s nearly impossible to diy.

Quittung Smoking also helped a lot with my folds!!! Reduced them by I would say 60%

What type of fold is that? This was before the Threads and filler and quit smoking

SteveRogers · Tuesday at 11:11 PM

Appreciate the hard work but it’s all based on forward growth of the maxilla.
If you have nasolabial folds, your best bet is pdo threads.
Implants will fix it but it’s high cost.
Fat grafting will make it worse (I am one of like 5 users here who actually knows anything about fat grafts / had it done myself) - never get grafts in the midface unless it’s above / on top of your infras, if it extends beyond then it will droop and add weight to your cheeks, further pulling them down and worsening folds.
Also you can use aqualyx in the triangle near the nostrils, this + PDO threads is all you need in reality.

Archisy · 2025-01-01T06:31:39-0600

SteveRogers said:
Fat grafting will make it worse (I am one of like 5 users here who actually knows anything about fat grafts / had it done myself) - never get grafts in the midface unless it’s above / on top of your infras, if it extends beyond then it will droop and add weight to your cheeks, further pulling them down and

why? seems pretty alr

appeal · 2025-01-01T09:39:31-0600

SteveRogers said:
Appreciate the hard work but it’s all based on forward growth of the maxilla.
If you have nasolabial folds, your best bet is pdo threads.
Implants will fix it but it’s high cost.
Fat grafting will make it worse (I am one of like 5 users here who actually knows anything about fat grafts / had it done myself) - never get grafts in the midface unless it’s above / on top of your infras, if it extends beyond then it will droop and add weight to your cheeks, further pulling them down and worsening folds.
Also you can use aqualyx in the triangle near the nostrils, this + PDO threads is all you need in reality.

Not only recession tho, can’t it be the under eye fat pad moving down due to gravity, so you’ll get naso fold regardless of maxilla?

Axhar1 · 2025-01-01T12:14:06-0600

appeal said:
Not only recession tho, can’t it be the under eye fat pad moving down due to gravity, so you’ll get naso fold regardless of maxilla?

that's for older people if you have folds at a young age it's maxilla problem

appeal · 2025-01-01T12:28:24-0600

Axhar1 said:
that's for older people if you have folds at a young age it's maxilla problem

Not true. Baby’s are literally born with them. Either it’s body fat related, maxilla related or fat pads shifting down.

Axhar1 · 2025-01-01T12:33:14-0600

appeal said:
Not true. Baby’s are literally born with them. Either it’s body fat related, maxilla related or fat pads shifting down.

that's a pheno issue. Many people have naturally flat maxilla. And yes folds can be caused by all 3 of those doesn't have to be any one

Johanjohan · 2025-01-01T13:46:33-0600

mathis said:
- Nasolabial Folds -

1. Anatomy
2. Types and root causes
3. Correction
4. Prevention

What are nasolabial folds ?
What are the differents types of nasolabial folds, and which one do i have ?
what are the solutions to correct it?
(bonus) -> what can I do to prevent nasolabial folds?

All those questions will be answered during this thread.
the nasolabial sulcus is extremely important for facial structure and attractiveness,
make shure to read everything.

-Introduction-

The nasolabial folds (NFS) refer to the pair of skin creases extending bilaterally from the nasal wings to the corners of the mouth. These creases are demarcated by facial features that provide support to the buccal fat pad, establishing a distinctive division between the cheeks and the upper lip.

The nomenclature derives from the Latin words “nasus”, denoting the nose, and “labium”, signifying the lip. It is pertinent to acknowledge that the accurate anatomical term for this fold is actually melolabial fold, representing the crease between the cheek and the lip. Over the course of natural aging, these folds may exhibit an increase in both length and depth.

Do you believe me if i tell you that everyone would highly benefit from nasolabial correction?

Take brad Pitt for exemple, would he be attractive with deep folds on each sides of his midface ?
View attachment 3386111
No ? Damn right. No one would, so we have to correct it at all cost. Fortunately, that's excatly what we're doing today.

1. Anatomy

The nasolabial folds are characterized by lines resembling the Chinese character ‘八’, extending diagonally from the upper border of the nasolabial groove, situated between the nose and the cheek, toward both sides of the cheek. While colloquially referred to as nasolabial folds, categorizing them into three distinct types based on their underlying mechanisms provides valuable insights. ->

View attachment 3385517

->2. Types and root causes
its important to remember that the nasolabial fold should be treated according to the types of the nasolabial fold causes.

View attachment 3385523

nasolabial folds can be classified in 3 visually distinct types :
(A) delineates a depression in the paranasal region. ( in short: maxilla issue ).
(B) signifies a sagging or drooping of the nasolabial fat. ( in short : adiposal issue ).
(C) illustrates a crease formed due to the action of upper lip elevator muscles. ( in short : muscle issue ).

In depth explanations:
(use a mirror, make shure to be lean before diagnostic):

Type (A)
This cause is associated with a lack of volume in the area next to the nasal alar. It results in limited superficial fat beneath the nasolabial fold due to a recession of the canine fossa in the maxilla. This lead to a hollow appearance in the buccal area and the formation of deep lines. Pay a particular attention to the maxilla during the diagnostic of type(A).

exemples:

View attachment 3385532 View attachment 3385531

Type(B)
Attachment of the skin below and above the wrinkle line and the upper lip region. Skin below the wrinkle line is firmly attached to the underlying orbicularis oris muscle, resulting in diminished sagging. In contrast, the skin and tissues above the line are loosely connected, leading to sagging of the anterior buccal fat pad and a noticeable bulging appearance. With age, there is often an enlargement of the superficial fat above the wrinkle line and a reduction of the buccal fat below, creating a marked thickness contrast between the tissues above and below the wrinkle line.
pay a particular attention to the fat pads around the nose and around the interior part of the cheeks during the diagnostic of type(B).

exemples:

View attachment 3385553 View attachment 3385544

Type(C)
The third cause is primarily attributed to specific fibers of upper lip elevators, such as levator labii superioris alaeque nasi, levator labii superioris, and zygomaticus major and minor muscles.
Typically appear (very visible and can be uneven) when speaking , frowning, smiling. Little to not visible at rest.

exemple:
this type can be a little more tricky to diagnose, refer to the text description
View attachment 3385558

Resuming :
View attachment 3385550

3. Solutions
invasive and non invasive procedures will be discussed, classed from best to worst by efficiency.
Pictures linked give a general insight of results, but are not always tied to the specific type of nasolabial fold.

type (A)

1. Dermal Fillers. ( last 6-18 months)
Injectable substances that restore volume to areas with fat loss, filling out deep lines or folds.

Pros: non surgical, immediate, can be reversed.
Cons: Temporary, risk of asymmetry or overfilling, expensive.

View attachment 3385675

2. Fat Grafting. (5-10 years)
Surgical procedure where fat is harvested from one area of the body and transferred to the face.

Pros: last long, natural, iocompatible.
Cons: requiere surgery, recovery period, risk of fat reabsorption.

View attachment 3385677

3. Facelift. (10-15 years)
Lifts and tightens facial tissues to reduce sagging and deep folds.

Pros: last very long, very effective for deep folds
Cons: Invasive, scarring, long recovery, cost

View attachment 3385685

4. Thread Lifting. (6-18 months)
uses threads to lift and tighten the skin, stimulate collagen production.

Pros: Minimally invasive, quick procedure, short recovery.
Cons: Temporary, risks of threads shifting or breaking.

View attachment 3385689

5. Topical Skin Care.
retinoids, peptides, hyaluronic acid, vitamin c....

6. Facial Exercises.
cheek lift, resistance cheek press...

Dnr:

View attachment 3385670

Type(B)

1. HIFU. (1-2 years)
Non-invasive treatment that uses ultrasound to stimulate collagen production, tightening the skin.

Pros: not invasive, tighter skin, effective.
Cons: Results take time to appear after procedure, may requiere multiple sessions.

View attachment 3385729

2. Radiofrequency. (6-12 months)
Non-invasive treatment that uses radiofrequency to heat the skin and stimulate collagen, improve skin tightness.

Pros: not invasive, no downtime, effective.
Cons: multiple treatments might be needed, not as effective if deep skin laxity.

View attachment 3385734

3. Biostimulators (e.g., Sculptra, Radiesse). (10-15 years)
Injections that stimulate collagen production, help to restore lost volume and improve skin texture over time.

Pros: Effective for significant sagging and skin laxity.
Cons: Invasive with risks like scarring, expensive, long recovery.

View attachment 3385737

4. Facelift or Mini-Facelift.
picture and description in type(A)

5. Laser Resurfacing. (1-2 years)
Laser that removes layers of skin to improve texture, tone, collagen production, while reducing signs of aging.

Pros: gradual and natural looking results, non surgical.
Cons: Results take time to appear, requiere multiple sessions, expensive.

View attachment 3385740

6. Topical Treatments.
Caffeine drugs, niacinamide, retinoids, peptides, hyaluronic acid, vitamin a....

7. Facial Massage:
Puff and hold, cheek lifts, upper lip lift...

dnr:

View attachment 3385695

Type(C)

1. Botox or Dysport. (3-6 months)
Injectable treatments that temporarily relax the muscles responsible for wrinkles caused by facial expression

Pros: Immediate, very effective for type(C), quick.
Cons: frequent touch-ups, over relaxation and facial "frozen look" risks.

View attachment 3385743

2. Fillers for Compensation.
picture and description in type(A)

3. Thread Lifting.
picture and description in type(A)

4. Facial Relaxation Exercises.
Jaw relaxation stretch, lip tension release, nasolabial line stretch, opposite muscle activation, facial tapping therapy...

5. Myofascial Release or Massage.

6. Posture Correction.
Low effectiveness

7. Stress Management.
low effectiveness. Indirect effect.

dnr:

View attachment 3385698

4. Nasolabial folds prevention
like a famous French cote say "mieux vaux prevenir que guérir" which means "prevention is better than cure", the best way to cure something is to never let the issue develop, and to prevent it.

-Skin elasticity and collagen-
Collagen and elastin are essential. As we age, the production of these proteins decreases, which leads to nasolabial folds.

What i advice:

-topical Retinoids
-antioxidants like vitamin c and E
-Hydratation
-moisturizers like hyaluronic acid with occlusive agents ( ceramides... )
-and of course : a powerful sunscreen.

-muscles-
Tzygomaticus major, orbicularis oris, and buccinator, play a key role in the formation of nasolabial folds.

What i advice:

-Botox
-targeted facial exercises("facial exercises for nasolabial folds" on YouTube)

-Volume maintenance in the midface-
there is a gradual loss of volume in the midface as we age, specifically in the cheek area
This volume loss causes the skin to sag downward, pulling the nasolabial fold deeper.

What i advice:

-facial fat grafting or fillers
-diet (vitamins, minerals, amino acids)

-Posture-
As you know, gravity is often the root of all problems when it comes to facial aging.

What i advice:

-Keep a straight posture during the day
View attachment 3385850
-sleep on the back

-weight-

-Keep a stable weight, ideally lean
-Facial massages.

Finally, make shure to avoid harsh compounds in contact of the skin, but thats common sense.

>Conclusion

I tried to keep this thread as short as possible. Make shure to read it all, it's mandatory for your
anderstanding.

Upvote if you liked this thread, I might do more in the futur.
Check my profile for my multiples others guides on voice, sarms, height, and much more.
That said, see you next time.
View attachment 3385856

@wsada @Orc @TechnoBoss @Underdog9494 @got.daim @Xsane @chadhamed @halloweed @zieligeik @valentine @ey88 @Bitchwhipper2 @BimaxLaser @fuxkdakikez @cucklek @Jonas2k7 , @Chadeep , @normie_joe

Typical indian shit guide

Currycels always recommend these invasive surgeries to make you rot away

Prep · 2025-01-01T14:00:25-0600

mathis said:
- Nasolabial Folds -

1. Anatomy
2. Types and root causes
3. Correction
4. Prevention

What are nasolabial folds ?
What are the differents types of nasolabial folds, and which one do i have ?
what are the solutions to correct it?
(bonus) -> what can I do to prevent nasolabial folds?

All those questions will be answered during this thread.
the nasolabial sulcus is extremely important for facial structure and attractiveness,
make shure to read everything.

-Introduction-

The nasolabial folds (NFS) refer to the pair of skin creases extending bilaterally from the nasal wings to the corners of the mouth. These creases are demarcated by facial features that provide support to the buccal fat pad, establishing a distinctive division between the cheeks and the upper lip.

The nomenclature derives from the Latin words “nasus”, denoting the nose, and “labium”, signifying the lip. It is pertinent to acknowledge that the accurate anatomical term for this fold is actually melolabial fold, representing the crease between the cheek and the lip. Over the course of natural aging, these folds may exhibit an increase in both length and depth.

Do you believe me if i tell you that everyone would highly benefit from nasolabial correction?

Take brad Pitt for exemple, would he be attractive with deep folds on each sides of his midface ?
View attachment 3386111
No ? Damn right. No one would, so we have to correct it at all cost. Fortunately, that's excatly what we're doing today.

1. Anatomy

The nasolabial folds are characterized by lines resembling the Chinese character ‘八’, extending diagonally from the upper border of the nasolabial groove, situated between the nose and the cheek, toward both sides of the cheek. While colloquially referred to as nasolabial folds, categorizing them into three distinct types based on their underlying mechanisms provides valuable insights. ->

View attachment 3385517

->2. Types and root causes
its important to remember that the nasolabial fold should be treated according to the types of the nasolabial fold causes.

View attachment 3385523

nasolabial folds can be classified in 3 visually distinct types :
(A) delineates a depression in the paranasal region. ( in short: maxilla issue ).
(B) signifies a sagging or drooping of the nasolabial fat. ( in short : adiposal issue ).
(C) illustrates a crease formed due to the action of upper lip elevator muscles. ( in short : muscle issue ).

In depth explanations:
(use a mirror, make shure to be lean before diagnostic):

Type (A)
This cause is associated with a lack of volume in the area next to the nasal alar. It results in limited superficial fat beneath the nasolabial fold due to a recession of the canine fossa in the maxilla. This lead to a hollow appearance in the buccal area and the formation of deep lines. Pay a particular attention to the maxilla during the diagnostic of type(A).

exemples:

View attachment 3385532 View attachment 3385531

Type(B)
Attachment of the skin below and above the wrinkle line and the upper lip region. Skin below the wrinkle line is firmly attached to the underlying orbicularis oris muscle, resulting in diminished sagging. In contrast, the skin and tissues above the line are loosely connected, leading to sagging of the anterior buccal fat pad and a noticeable bulging appearance. With age, there is often an enlargement of the superficial fat above the wrinkle line and a reduction of the buccal fat below, creating a marked thickness contrast between the tissues above and below the wrinkle line.
pay a particular attention to the fat pads around the nose and around the interior part of the cheeks during the diagnostic of type(B).

exemples:

View attachment 3385553 View attachment 3385544

Type(C)
The third cause is primarily attributed to specific fibers of upper lip elevators, such as levator labii superioris alaeque nasi, levator labii superioris, and zygomaticus major and minor muscles.
Typically appear (very visible and can be uneven) when speaking , frowning, smiling. Little to not visible at rest.

exemple:
this type can be a little more tricky to diagnose, refer to the text description
View attachment 3385558

Resuming :
View attachment 3385550

3. Solutions
invasive and non invasive procedures will be discussed, classed from best to worst by efficiency.
Pictures linked give a general insight of results, but are not always tied to the specific type of nasolabial fold.

type (A)

1. Dermal Fillers. ( last 6-18 months)
Injectable substances that restore volume to areas with fat loss, filling out deep lines or folds.

Pros: non surgical, immediate, can be reversed.
Cons: Temporary, risk of asymmetry or overfilling, expensive.

View attachment 3385675

2. Fat Grafting. (5-10 years)
Surgical procedure where fat is harvested from one area of the body and transferred to the face.

Pros: last long, natural, iocompatible.
Cons: requiere surgery, recovery period, risk of fat reabsorption.

View attachment 3385677

3. Facelift. (10-15 years)
Lifts and tightens facial tissues to reduce sagging and deep folds.

Pros: last very long, very effective for deep folds
Cons: Invasive, scarring, long recovery, cost

View attachment 3385685

4. Thread Lifting. (6-18 months)
uses threads to lift and tighten the skin, stimulate collagen production.

Pros: Minimally invasive, quick procedure, short recovery.
Cons: Temporary, risks of threads shifting or breaking.

View attachment 3385689

5. Topical Skin Care.
retinoids, peptides, hyaluronic acid, vitamin c....

6. Facial Exercises.
cheek lift, resistance cheek press...

Dnr:

View attachment 3385670

Type(B)

1. HIFU. (1-2 years)
Non-invasive treatment that uses ultrasound to stimulate collagen production, tightening the skin.

Pros: not invasive, tighter skin, effective.
Cons: Results take time to appear after procedure, may requiere multiple sessions.

View attachment 3385729

2. Radiofrequency. (6-12 months)
Non-invasive treatment that uses radiofrequency to heat the skin and stimulate collagen, improve skin tightness.

Pros: not invasive, no downtime, effective.
Cons: multiple treatments might be needed, not as effective if deep skin laxity.

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3. Biostimulators (e.g., Sculptra, Radiesse). (10-15 years)
Injections that stimulate collagen production, help to restore lost volume and improve skin texture over time.

Pros: Effective for significant sagging and skin laxity.
Cons: Invasive with risks like scarring, expensive, long recovery.

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4. Facelift or Mini-Facelift.
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5. Laser Resurfacing. (1-2 years)
Laser that removes layers of skin to improve texture, tone, collagen production, while reducing signs of aging.

Pros: gradual and natural looking results, non surgical.
Cons: Results take time to appear, requiere multiple sessions, expensive.

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6. Topical Treatments.
Caffeine drugs, niacinamide, retinoids, peptides, hyaluronic acid, vitamin a....

7. Facial Massage:
Puff and hold, cheek lifts, upper lip lift...

dnr:

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Type(C)

1. Botox or Dysport. (3-6 months)
Injectable treatments that temporarily relax the muscles responsible for wrinkles caused by facial expression

Pros: Immediate, very effective for type(C), quick.
Cons: frequent touch-ups, over relaxation and facial "frozen look" risks.

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2. Fillers for Compensation.
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3. Thread Lifting.
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4. Facial Relaxation Exercises.
Jaw relaxation stretch, lip tension release, nasolabial line stretch, opposite muscle activation, facial tapping therapy...

5. Myofascial Release or Massage.

6. Posture Correction.
Low effectiveness

7. Stress Management.
low effectiveness. Indirect effect.

dnr:

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4. Nasolabial folds prevention
like a famous French cote say "mieux vaux prevenir que guérir" which means "prevention is better than cure", the best way to cure something is to never let the issue develop, and to prevent it.

-Skin elasticity and collagen-
Collagen and elastin are essential. As we age, the production of these proteins decreases, which leads to nasolabial folds.

What i advice:

-topical Retinoids
-antioxidants like vitamin c and E
-Hydratation
-moisturizers like hyaluronic acid with occlusive agents ( ceramides... )
-and of course : a powerful sunscreen.

-muscles-
Tzygomaticus major, orbicularis oris, and buccinator, play a key role in the formation of nasolabial folds.

What i advice:

-Botox
-targeted facial exercises("facial exercises for nasolabial folds" on YouTube)

-Volume maintenance in the midface-
there is a gradual loss of volume in the midface as we age, specifically in the cheek area
This volume loss causes the skin to sag downward, pulling the nasolabial fold deeper.

What i advice:

-facial fat grafting or fillers
-diet (vitamins, minerals, amino acids)

-Posture-
As you know, gravity is often the root of all problems when it comes to facial aging.

What i advice:

-Keep a straight posture during the day
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-sleep on the back

-weight-

-Keep a stable weight, ideally lean
-Facial massages.

Finally, make shure to avoid harsh compounds in contact of the skin, but thats common sense.

>Conclusion

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anderstanding.

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Lefort 1 fix that bro

SteveRogers · 2025-01-01T17:26:03-0600

appeal said:
Not only recession tho, can’t it be the under eye fat pad moving down due to gravity, so you’ll get naso fold regardless of maxilla?

Yep absolutely

Alucard69 · 2025-01-01T18:26:47-0600

Orc said:
they're caused by an excess of volume caused by migration right above the groove instead and the most effective solution is to remove the fat there as it's pretty much impossible to make it go back to where it originates from (it's from the area below your eyes, hence why almost everyone with nasolabial folds also has under-eye hollowing)

Yesss omg finally someone realizes.

Btw i've heard that how forward the lower part of maxilla is compared to the upper structures like upper maxilla and zygos are also influences the migration.

The less forward it is, the more likely your undereye fat starts descending.

I'd say the best solution is a lefort on a bone level then removing fat from nasalobials, and fat graft to undereyes with fat repositioning and maybe tightening some ligaments or similar.

Alucard69 · 2025-01-01T18:37:40-0600

SteveRogers said:
Yep absolutely

More forward premaxilla/lf1 area comparetively prevents the migration happening from undereyes to nasalobials, atleast that's the impression i'm under.

Works the opposite way too, when lf1 area compared to zygos and upper maxilla isn't forward enough, malar fat pad doesn't have enough support and slides down, also your tear through ligament gets weaker.

Orc · 2025-01-01T18:56:27-0600

Alucard69 said:
Yesss omg finally someone realizes.

I made an entire thread about it ages ago + how to fix it.

Alucard69 said:
Btw i've heard that how forward the lower part of maxilla is compared to the upper structures like upper maxilla and zygos are also influences the migration.

it makes it worse if anything, people who don't get nasolabial folds tend to be people with very flat looking faces, asians for example are less prone to having them.

there's two things that can make it worse.

first is if there's too much of an obtuse angle between the under-eye support and the philtrum.

it's hard to see from some angles, but hexum has a bit of what you could call an ape-philtrum that causes there to be a weird dip between the under-eye and philtrum, I think this is also what I have.

the second is having cheekbones that protrude laterally further than your mid-face, this causes somewhat of a dent shape to occur between the arches of the cheekbones and the philtrum.

both bomer and cavill have this form, it's hard to explain but let me draw it.

so imagine we're taking this random normal face, and we're projecting the cheekbones laterally.

that means a bit of a dent forms between those protrusions, and that's what they have.

Alucard69 said:
The less forward it is, the more likely your undereye fat starts descending.

the shittier your undereyes tend to be, the less prone you are to nasolabials.

o'pry for example has terrible under-eyes.

my theory is that:

in people with shit under-eyes this bone here:

sits lower like this:

which means the bottom of the orbital is volumizing that area, and this is also why o'pry has this weird angle that shifts entirely into his philtrum all the way from his under-eye.

Alucard69 said:
I'd say the best solution is a lefort on a bone level then removing fat from nasalobials, and fat graft to undereyes with fat repositioning and maybe tightening some ligaments or similar.

lefort only fixes it because it stretches the skin, but that doesn't mean it's actually caused by a lack of forward growth.

TheBiggestIncelEver · 2025-01-01T19:06:47-0600

Orc said:
I made an entire thread about it ages ago + how to fix it.

it makes it worse if anything, people who don't get nasolabial folds tend to be people with very flat looking faces, asians for example are less prone to having them.

there's two things that can make it worse.

first is if there's too much of an obtuse angle between the under-eye support and the philtrum.

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it's hard to see from some angles, but hexum has a bit of what you could call an ape-philtrum that causes there to be a weird dip between the under-eye and philtrum.

the second is having cheekbones that protrude laterally further than your mid-face, this causes somewhat of a dent shape to occur between the arches of the cheekbones and the philtrum.

View attachment 3398065

both bomer and cavill have this form, it's hard to explain but let me draw it.

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so imagine we're taking this random normal face, and we're projecting the cheekbones laterally.

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that means a bit of a dent forms between those protrusions, and that's what they have.

the shittier your undereyes tend to be, the less prone you are to nasolabials.

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o'pry for example has terrible under-eyes.

my theory is that:

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in people with shit under-eyes this bone here:
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sits lower like this:

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which means the bottom of the orbital is volumizing that area, and this is also why o'pry has this weird angle that shifts entirely into his philtrum all the way from his under-eye.

lefort only fixes it because it stretches the skin, but that doesn't mean it's actually caused by a lack of forward growth.

Does lowering bodyfat percentage if you’re not lean have the potential to remove or make nasolabial folds less prominent ?

Alucard69 · 2025-01-01T19:07:54-0600

Orc said:
it makes it worse if anything, people who don't get nasolabial folds tend to be people with very flat looking faces, asians for example are less prone to having them.

Actually their alveolar ridge is pretty forward compared to upper maxilla (remember their upper maxilla isn't as forward either) IIRC, asians zygos though are somewhat forward? So idk, they have insane soft tissue though, so it's somewhat different case and anatomy too i think.

Orc said:
the shittier your undereyes tend to be, the less prone you are to nasolabials.

o'pry for example has terrible under-eyes.

No you missed the point, O'pry doesn't have HOLLOW undereyes, there's a difference. Also on a side note he has good undereye support imo, it's gotten a bit worse with age but nothing drastic. His infras are setback, it's a different case from what i'm talking abt. Look how his undereye fatpad is visible and ptroudes through, not hollow in below pic

Orc said:
lefort only fixes it because it stretches the skin, but that doesn't mean it's actually caused by a lack of forward growth

I know what you mean, but again this is a different case. The hypothesis here is that when your lower maxilla isn't as forward, that's what makes you more prone to your malar fat gliding down and creates the final results of hollow undereyes and nasofolds.

Rest is interesting, i will take a look into it

Orc · 2025-01-01T19:07:55-0600

TheBiggestIncelEver said:
Does lowering bodyfat percentage if you’re not lean have the potential to remove or make nasolabial folds less prominent ?

usually just makes them worse the fat there is very resilient to exercise.

caiolindo · 2025-01-01T19:13:10-0600

Orc said:
usually just makes them worse the fat there is very resilient to exercise.

actually fixed my folds i had too much fat hanging over my nasal folds, may be canine fossa related

Orc · 2025-01-01T19:15:25-0600

Alucard69 said:
Actually their alveolar ridge is pretty forward compared to upper maxilla (remember their upper maxilla isn't as forward either) IIRC, asians zygos though are somewhat forward? So idk, they have insane soft tissue though, so it's somewhat different case and anatomy too i think.

asians don't actually have flat faces bone-wise, it's caused by their adiposity, hence why I only say that it looks flat, their cheekbones tend to protrude sideways rather than forward, that's why they've got such boxy heads.

Alucard69 said:
No you missed the point, O'pry doesn't have HOLLOW undereyes, there's a difference. Also on a side note he has good undereye support imo, it's gotten a bit worse with age but nothing drastic. His infras are setback, it's a different case from what i'm talking abt.

I mean he has a classical case of negative orbital vector.

Alucard69 said:
I know what you mean, but again this is a different case. The hypothesis here is that when your lower maxilla isn't as forward, that's what makes you more prone to your malar fat gliding down and creates the final results of hollow undereyes and nasofolds.

I think it's the same for everyone, ideally you can prevent it by just not having much fat in the area, but it seems to accumulate there with age anyway even in people with very lean mid-faces.

Alucard69 said:
Rest is interesting, i will take a look into it

Alucard69 · 2025-01-01T19:23:57-0600

Orc said:
I mean he has a classical case of negative orbital vector.

Ironic imo because he supports the train of thought to me. He has neg orbital vector, but STILL good undereye support especially in his youth. Although that's partly thanks to his higher set infra rim i think. But his lower maxilla is forward comparetively.

He doesn't have HOLLOW undereyes, you can even see his fatpad in some lightings coming through, the one i sent was pretty pixelated just noticed. This is better, look how the fat pokes through a bit.

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