Under Eye Area and Under Chin Area MAXXING

[Chowdog]

 

[tehVigilante]

Is the hyoid stuff legit or cope? Anyone has had any results?

 

[Yusu]

Bump

 

[Verse]

Thank u needed this. I lost my under eyes from brutal stress and now there is no fat and huge shadow in bad lightning

bateman is that you??

 

[Soalian]

Thank u needed this. I lost my under eyes from brutal stress and now there is no fat and huge shadow in bad lightning

brb, gotta go return some videotapes.

 

[max_frisch]

is this legit?

any before/after?

 

[alriodai]

is this legit?

any before/after?

yes i got me vollufilne, it works for under eye 100% and the results r fast but make sure to eat in a little surplus calories like 100 or 200

 

[Nims]

yes i got me vollufilne, it works for under eye 100% and the results r fast but make sure to eat in a little surplus calories like 100 or 200

Can you dm before and afters? (or post them here).

 

[max_frisch]

yes i got me vollufilne, it works for under eye 100% and the results r fast but make sure to eat in a little surplus calories like 100 or 200

but it fades when you stop using it right?

 

[max_frisch]

bump

 

[WagedandReady]

Can you dm before and afters? (or post them here).

Same. Would like a non-shill before and after

 

[Nims]

Same. Would like a non-shill before and after

I'll make one myself, I've ordered this one of ebay, (Might be legit might not, it says it comes from SK and all the relevent info is in the description, but it has only 18 reviews so its a bit) should be delivered on 22nd.

I've taken some before pics but my Under eyes arent suifuel so tbh It might not look like much a difference but I'll make a post in maybe a month with the deets.

 

[max_frisch]

the original from the french company is like 80 eur though, is this really legir?

@Nims

 

[Deleted member 7027]

I tried volufiline for 3 days and I already see some slight smoothing of my nasolabial fold, this shit is legit and I hope u OP go to Gandy heaven. Jfl at evet using that garbage retin a that constantly peels ur skin and gives u red face

 

[Deleted member 7027]

I also bonesmash my maxilla, nl folds and undereyes and bloodflowmax by massaging these areas xd

 

[Sanguinius]

Can the lipofilling agents you mentioned work on your dick?

 

[WagedandReady]

Can the lipofilling agents you mentioned work on your dick?

You aren’t a true son of your pfp if you can’t answer this question for us yourself.

 

[Johanjohan]

This is my first thread so bear with me if it's formatted terribly. I came to this board for two reasons, tear trough in under eye area and a low hyoid/slight double chin. They have both been resolved through persistent research and experimentation through a combo of what I found on this board and in the depths of google. I don't have proof as I'm a public figure somewhat and will not be revealing my face but the methods I'll be outlining are relatively cheap, quick, low risk and non-invasive to try out yourselves.

>inb4 didn't read, idc

Tear Trough
If you have dark circles under your eyes even though you eat a healthy diet, supplement properly, sleep 7-9 hours a night, have tried sleep supplements to improve your sleep (ZMA, glycine, tart cherry extract), and stopped smoking weed, nicotine, alcohol or caffeine, it is most likely because the skin under your eyes is thin. This also doesn't necessarily apply to certain ethnicities who may have genetic under eye darkness or hyperpigmentation such as some blacks and South or Southeast Asians. If that is the case you will have to unfortunately use your judgement if this is useful to you and may find help with the traditionally touted methods such as green tea bags, caffeine, vitamin K, vitamin C, almond oil, or hydroquinone (dyor, much more out there on this). Note also that your under eye area may be recessed, in my case it wasn't. You can tell if you touch there. If there is bone immediately there and your skin is paper-thin you aren't recessed and it is your skin. This will help you even if you are recessed but it won't eliminate the problem as completely as you'd like.

1. Latisse or Eyelash/brow Growth Gels
As good as these are for improving your eyebrows or lashes if you have thin skin under your eyes I wouldn't recommend you continue their use as some of the side effects of these products include reddening and hyperpigmentation of the area on the eyelid and under eyes. Instead you can try a cope method like myself such as castor oil, rosemary oil, peppermint oil or a combo of these. Other methods are often talked about on this site but for example you can use something to fraud like E.L.F. Wow Brow gel for brows, CoverGirl Professional Natural Lash Mascara Clear for lashes and use an eyelash curler to slightly curl your lashes for a similar effect. The choice is yours, now for the actual good stuff.

2. Lipofilling Agents
These methods are mentioned on this site if you search very carefully but no one has explicitly talked about their results, probably because they're mainly found in obscure as fuck East Asian skincare. Well I ordered some and they work. These agents are topical and increase fat storage in the cells on which they are applied, causing them to plump up. The companies themselves claim this effect is permanent but I have only used them for 2-3 weeks so I do not know if they last if I stop them. What I do know is there are hundreds of idiots claiming they do not work because having a filler-like effect topically is impossible. I can assure you they work and the area under my eyes is about 3 times thicker than it was 3 weeks ago and I finally look like I'm not tired all the time. UNDERSTAND THIS, THESE AGENTS HAVE A FILLING EFFECT. They can be used on any part of the body and females use them to plump anything from their butts, breasts, zygos/cheekbone or lips. They have big implications if you understand what they can do. However, I will also warn you that some people do not experience this effect equally on different parts of the body or sometimes experience no effect with one but do with another.

1. Volufiline (Anemarrhena Asphodeloides and Hydrogenated Polyisobutene)​

Here is an example of a girl who used this and it worked. This product was synthesized by a French company, Sederma, from a plant used in East Asia for millenia called Zhi Mu. The one I used was [ Volufiline 10ml ] Cosmetic Ingredient - 100% Volufiline Ampoule 10ml(0.34 fl. oz) France SEDERMA | Cosmetic Grade | For face and body Improve Skin Elasticity, Wrinkle Improvement. I have attached a pic in case the Amazon product link disappears. You can either mix it with a cream or put it on the areas you want to plump up like that. It is an oil so it will be annoying to use on its own but that is how I used it. Just one drop on my finger per eye and put it on my undereye dark circles and on my cheekbone. BE CAREFUL, DO NOT put this on areas you do not want to plump up!​

View attachment 1727693​

2. Voluplus (Macelignan)​

This is another agent but less common. I have not used this one but it also works. You will likely have to find some Korean/Japanese product that uses this as an ingredient. Here is one I found on Amazon but having a pure 100% version would be more ideal.​

3. Pueraria Mirificia​

Same as 2. less common but if you want to use it find a product and make sure it has this ingredient in the listing.​

4. Adipofill​

Same as 2. less common but they have this product on Amazon.​

5. EGF (Epidermal Growth Factor)​

This is something I have used and it works as well. I would recommend using it after you've maxed out the results from one of the top 4 though as it will basically just increase your results but not as much as the others. I would not recommend the ampoule 100% for this but rather this product from Sidmool. Same type of application, be careful where you use it.​

View attachment 1727704​

6. BRTC Salmon Fillex Volume Injection​

I have not used this yet as it hasn't gotten delivered. On top of Volufiline this product includes salmon extracts and achieves similar results (not sure if the salmon extracts do anything extra or it's the Volufiline).​

7. Dermofuture Intensive Lip Plumper (BONUS FOR LIPS ONLY)​

Items 1, 2, 3, 4 and 5 will work to plump lips a bit indefinitely if you want that. However, this product does the same thing but temporarily. It does not have the lipofilling effect on your undereyes and zygos. It is also quite hard to get in most places as it is a Polish product but theoretically you can check the ingredients and any similar cream will achieve the same results.​

​

Low Hyoid/Slight Chin Fat
I have a low hyoid and keep myself at 14% bodyfat because I have a large skull and highly pronounced large features which look stupid on a skinny/non-muscular build with some body fat. I am not of the opinion that 10-12% bodyfat is ideal unless you have a smaller skull or are on steroids to achieve such a look while maintaining a large neck/traps. Anyway I will keep this quick because the way to solve this is simple and was covered in a BOTB thread.

1. Hyoid Exercises​

Read this thread: https://looksmax.org/threads/raising-hyoid-bone.84578/. Do the high speed jaw opening exercise, it works and in even just a week you will notice a difference. My entire swallowing pattern and occlusion modified as a result. Shoutout to these posters for making an excellent thread. I am very thankful. Facial exercises in general are incredibly useful and do work and I do facial exercises before bed for about 5 minutes dyor there are so many on youtube for every type of issue you may want to improve on, including cheeks!​

2. Lipo-Reducing Agents​

The hyoid raising exercises already work and do 90% of your heavy lifting here. If you want to maintain a slightly higher bf (again you cannot be closing in on 20% bf and expect this to work) you can use lipo-reducing agents to tone and reduce your under-chin fat (AGAIN BE CAREFUL WHERE YOU PUT THIS). Simply search "lipo gel" on Amazon and you will find many options to choose from. They all have similar ingredients. I use them before bed after my skincare routine and sleep on my back. They work, simple, just don't think they will completely melt away all your fat, the change is slight but very noticeable to the human eye. They are made for bodybuilders before they compete to lose excess fat in stubborn areas. I have not tried them on my stomach but they would probably have a similar effect there.​

I hope I've contributed something to this cesspool. Always try fully softmaxxing before doing something more drastic. I guarantee you, there is a solution to almost everything you want out there if you look.

Based bro

 

[looksseg]

I ordered this stuff too, very controversial many say it works some say it's bs and way to cheap to work

is this where you apply?

View attachment 1742278

Does this work?

 

[leloucheREBORN]

I don’t think lipo gel works for the face or in general. But pls try it and update.

But there are local fat killers that you can inject. Most ppl do it at cosmetic/doctors for a lot of money.
I would buy them cheap in China and inject them on the „double chin area“ bymyself. But it’s nonsense for me because i wear a full beard.

 

[Deleted member 25119]

This is my first thread so bear with me if it's formatted terribly. I came to this board for two reasons, tear trough in under eye area and a low hyoid/slight double chin. They have both been resolved through persistent research and experimentation through a combo of what I found on this board and in the depths of google. I don't have proof as I'm a public figure somewhat and will not be revealing my face but the methods I'll be outlining are relatively cheap, quick, low risk and non-invasive to try out yourselves.

>inb4 didn't read, idc

Tear Trough
If you have dark circles under your eyes even though you eat a healthy diet, supplement properly, sleep 7-9 hours a night, have tried sleep supplements to improve your sleep (ZMA, glycine, tart cherry extract), and stopped smoking weed, nicotine, alcohol or caffeine, it is most likely because the skin under your eyes is thin. This also doesn't necessarily apply to certain ethnicities who may have genetic under eye darkness or hyperpigmentation such as some blacks and South or Southeast Asians. If that is the case you will have to unfortunately use your judgement if this is useful to you and may find help with the traditionally touted methods such as green tea bags, caffeine, vitamin K, vitamin C, almond oil, or hydroquinone (dyor, much more out there on this). Note also that your under eye area may be recessed, in my case it wasn't. You can tell if you touch there. If there is bone immediately there and your skin is paper-thin you aren't recessed and it is your skin. This will help you even if you are recessed but it won't eliminate the problem as completely as you'd like.

1. Latisse or Eyelash/brow Growth Gels
As good as these are for improving your eyebrows or lashes if you have thin skin under your eyes I wouldn't recommend you continue their use as some of the side effects of these products include reddening and hyperpigmentation of the area on the eyelid and under eyes. Instead you can try a cope method like myself such as castor oil, rosemary oil, peppermint oil or a combo of these. Other methods are often talked about on this site but for example you can use something to fraud like E.L.F. Wow Brow gel for brows, CoverGirl Professional Natural Lash Mascara Clear for lashes and use an eyelash curler to slightly curl your lashes for a similar effect. The choice is yours, now for the actual good stuff.

2. Lipofilling Agents
These methods are mentioned on this site if you search very carefully but no one has explicitly talked about their results, probably because they're mainly found in obscure as fuck East Asian skincare. Well I ordered some and they work. These agents are topical and increase fat storage in the cells on which they are applied, causing them to plump up. The companies themselves claim this effect is permanent but I have only used them for 2-3 weeks so I do not know if they last if I stop them. What I do know is there are hundreds of idiots claiming they do not work because having a filler-like effect topically is impossible. I can assure you they work and the area under my eyes is about 3 times thicker than it was 3 weeks ago and I finally look like I'm not tired all the time. UNDERSTAND THIS, THESE AGENTS HAVE A FILLING EFFECT. They can be used on any part of the body and females use them to plump anything from their butts, breasts, zygos/cheekbone or lips. They have big implications if you understand what they can do. However, I will also warn you that some people do not experience this effect equally on different parts of the body or sometimes experience no effect with one but do with another.

1. Volufiline (Anemarrhena Asphodeloides and Hydrogenated Polyisobutene)​

Here is an example of a girl who used this and it worked. This product was synthesized by a French company, Sederma, from a plant used in East Asia for millenia called Zhi Mu. The one I used was [ Volufiline 10ml ] Cosmetic Ingredient - 100% Volufiline Ampoule 10ml(0.34 fl. oz) France SEDERMA | Cosmetic Grade | For face and body Improve Skin Elasticity, Wrinkle Improvement. I have attached a pic in case the Amazon product link disappears. You can either mix it with a cream or put it on the areas you want to plump up like that. It is an oil so it will be annoying to use on its own but that is how I used it. Just one drop on my finger per eye and put it on my undereye dark circles and on my cheekbone. BE CAREFUL, DO NOT put this on areas you do not want to plump up!​

View attachment 1727693​

2. Voluplus (Macelignan)​

This is another agent but less common. I have not used this one but it also works. You will likely have to find some Korean/Japanese product that uses this as an ingredient. Here is one I found on Amazon but having a pure 100% version would be more ideal.​

3. Pueraria Mirificia​

Same as 2. less common but if you want to use it find a product and make sure it has this ingredient in the listing.​

4. Adipofill​

Same as 2. less common but they have this product on Amazon.​

5. EGF (Epidermal Growth Factor)​

This is something I have used and it works as well. I would recommend using it after you've maxed out the results from one of the top 4 though as it will basically just increase your results but not as much as the others. I would not recommend the ampoule 100% for this but rather this product from Sidmool. Same type of application, be careful where you use it.​

View attachment 1727704​

6. BRTC Salmon Fillex Volume Injection​

I have not used this yet as it hasn't gotten delivered. On top of Volufiline this product includes salmon extracts and achieves similar results (not sure if the salmon extracts do anything extra or it's the Volufiline).​

7. Dermofuture Intensive Lip Plumper (BONUS FOR LIPS ONLY)​

Items 1, 2, 3, 4 and 5 will work to plump lips a bit indefinitely if you want that. However, this product does the same thing but temporarily. It does not have the lipofilling effect on your undereyes and zygos. It is also quite hard to get in most places as it is a Polish product but theoretically you can check the ingredients and any similar cream will achieve the same results.​

​

Low Hyoid/Slight Chin Fat
I have a low hyoid and keep myself at 14% bodyfat because I have a large skull and highly pronounced large features which look stupid on a skinny/non-muscular build with some body fat. I am not of the opinion that 10-12% bodyfat is ideal unless you have a smaller skull or are on steroids to achieve such a look while maintaining a large neck/traps. Anyway I will keep this quick because the way to solve this is simple and was covered in a BOTB thread.

1. Hyoid Exercises​

Read this thread: https://looksmax.org/threads/raising-hyoid-bone.84578/. Do the high speed jaw opening exercise, it works and in even just a week you will notice a difference. My entire swallowing pattern and occlusion modified as a result. Shoutout to these posters for making an excellent thread. I am very thankful. Facial exercises in general are incredibly useful and do work and I do facial exercises before bed for about 5 minutes dyor there are so many on youtube for every type of issue you may want to improve on, including cheeks!​

2. Lipo-Reducing Agents​

The hyoid raising exercises already work and do 90% of your heavy lifting here. If you want to maintain a slightly higher bf (again you cannot be closing in on 20% bf and expect this to work) you can use lipo-reducing agents to tone and reduce your under-chin fat (AGAIN BE CAREFUL WHERE YOU PUT THIS). Simply search "lipo gel" on Amazon and you will find many options to choose from. They all have similar ingredients. I use them before bed after my skincare routine and sleep on my back. They work, simple, just don't think they will completely melt away all your fat, the change is slight but very noticeable to the human eye. They are made for bodybuilders before they compete to lose excess fat in stubborn areas. I have not tried them on my stomach but they would probably have a similar effect there.​

I hope I've contributed something to this cesspool. Always try fully softmaxxing before doing something more drastic. I guarantee you, there is a solution to almost everything you want out there if you look.

Hope on Tren bro

 

[ungewist]

This is my first thread so bear with me if it's formatted terribly. I came to this board for two reasons, tear trough in under eye area and a low hyoid/slight double chin. They have both been resolved through persistent research and experimentation through a combo of what I found on this board and in the depths of google. I don't have proof as I'm a public figure somewhat and will not be revealing my face but the methods I'll be outlining are relatively cheap, quick, low risk and non-invasive to try out yourselves.

>inb4 didn't read, idc

Tear Trough
If you have dark circles under your eyes even though you eat a healthy diet, supplement properly, sleep 7-9 hours a night, have tried sleep supplements to improve your sleep (ZMA, glycine, tart cherry extract), and stopped smoking weed, nicotine, alcohol or caffeine, it is most likely because the skin under your eyes is thin. This also doesn't necessarily apply to certain ethnicities who may have genetic under eye darkness or hyperpigmentation such as some blacks and South or Southeast Asians. If that is the case you will have to unfortunately use your judgement if this is useful to you and may find help with the traditionally touted methods such as green tea bags, caffeine, vitamin K, vitamin C, almond oil, or hydroquinone (dyor, much more out there on this). Note also that your under eye area may be recessed, in my case it wasn't. You can tell if you touch there. If there is bone immediately there and your skin is paper-thin you aren't recessed and it is your skin. This will help you even if you are recessed but it won't eliminate the problem as completely as you'd like.

1. Latisse or Eyelash/brow Growth Gels
As good as these are for improving your eyebrows or lashes if you have thin skin under your eyes I wouldn't recommend you continue their use as some of the side effects of these products include reddening and hyperpigmentation of the area on the eyelid and under eyes. Instead you can try a cope method like myself such as castor oil, rosemary oil, peppermint oil or a combo of these. Other methods are often talked about on this site but for example you can use something to fraud like E.L.F. Wow Brow gel for brows, CoverGirl Professional Natural Lash Mascara Clear for lashes and use an eyelash curler to slightly curl your lashes for a similar effect. The choice is yours, now for the actual good stuff.

2. Lipofilling Agents
These methods are mentioned on this site if you search very carefully but no one has explicitly talked about their results, probably because they're mainly found in obscure as fuck East Asian skincare. Well I ordered some and they work. These agents are topical and increase fat storage in the cells on which they are applied, causing them to plump up. The companies themselves claim this effect is permanent but I have only used them for 2-3 weeks so I do not know if they last if I stop them. What I do know is there are hundreds of idiots claiming they do not work because having a filler-like effect topically is impossible. I can assure you they work and the area under my eyes is about 3 times thicker than it was 3 weeks ago and I finally look like I'm not tired all the time. UNDERSTAND THIS, THESE AGENTS HAVE A FILLING EFFECT. They can be used on any part of the body and females use them to plump anything from their butts, breasts, zygos/cheekbone or lips. They have big implications if you understand what they can do. However, I will also warn you that some people do not experience this effect equally on different parts of the body or sometimes experience no effect with one but do with another.

1. Volufiline (Anemarrhena Asphodeloides and Hydrogenated Polyisobutene)​

Here is an example of a girl who used this and it worked. This product was synthesized by a French company, Sederma, from a plant used in East Asia for millenia called Zhi Mu. The one I used was [ Volufiline 10ml ] Cosmetic Ingredient - 100% Volufiline Ampoule 10ml(0.34 fl. oz) France SEDERMA | Cosmetic Grade | For face and body Improve Skin Elasticity, Wrinkle Improvement. I have attached a pic in case the Amazon product link disappears. You can either mix it with a cream or put it on the areas you want to plump up like that. It is an oil so it will be annoying to use on its own but that is how I used it. Just one drop on my finger per eye and put it on my undereye dark circles and on my cheekbone. BE CAREFUL, DO NOT put this on areas you do not want to plump up!​

View attachment 1727693​

2. Voluplus (Macelignan)​

This is another agent but less common. I have not used this one but it also works. You will likely have to find some Korean/Japanese product that uses this as an ingredient. Here is one I found on Amazon but having a pure 100% version would be more ideal.​

3. Pueraria Mirificia​

Same as 2. less common but if you want to use it find a product and make sure it has this ingredient in the listing.​

4. Adipofill​

Same as 2. less common but they have this product on Amazon.​

5. EGF (Epidermal Growth Factor)​

This is something I have used and it works as well. I would recommend using it after you've maxed out the results from one of the top 4 though as it will basically just increase your results but not as much as the others. I would not recommend the ampoule 100% for this but rather this product from Sidmool. Same type of application, be careful where you use it.​

View attachment 1727704​

6. BRTC Salmon Fillex Volume Injection​

I have not used this yet as it hasn't gotten delivered. On top of Volufiline this product includes salmon extracts and achieves similar results (not sure if the salmon extracts do anything extra or it's the Volufiline).​

7. Dermofuture Intensive Lip Plumper (BONUS FOR LIPS ONLY)​

Items 1, 2, 3, 4 and 5 will work to plump lips a bit indefinitely if you want that. However, this product does the same thing but temporarily. It does not have the lipofilling effect on your undereyes and zygos. It is also quite hard to get in most places as it is a Polish product but theoretically you can check the ingredients and any similar cream will achieve the same results.​

​

Low Hyoid/Slight Chin Fat
I have a low hyoid and keep myself at 14% bodyfat because I have a large skull and highly pronounced large features which look stupid on a skinny/non-muscular build with some body fat. I am not of the opinion that 10-12% bodyfat is ideal unless you have a smaller skull or are on steroids to achieve such a look while maintaining a large neck/traps. Anyway I will keep this quick because the way to solve this is simple and was covered in a BOTB thread.

1. Hyoid Exercises​

Read this thread: https://looksmax.org/threads/raising-hyoid-bone.84578/. Do the high speed jaw opening exercise, it works and in even just a week you will notice a difference. My entire swallowing pattern and occlusion modified as a result. Shoutout to these posters for making an excellent thread. I am very thankful. Facial exercises in general are incredibly useful and do work and I do facial exercises before bed for about 5 minutes dyor there are so many on youtube for every type of issue you may want to improve on, including cheeks!​

2. Lipo-Reducing Agents​

The hyoid raising exercises already work and do 90% of your heavy lifting here. If you want to maintain a slightly higher bf (again you cannot be closing in on 20% bf and expect this to work) you can use lipo-reducing agents to tone and reduce your under-chin fat (AGAIN BE CAREFUL WHERE YOU PUT THIS). Simply search "lipo gel" on Amazon and you will find many options to choose from. They all have similar ingredients. I use them before bed after my skincare routine and sleep on my back. They work, simple, just don't think they will completely melt away all your fat, the change is slight but very noticeable to the human eye. They are made for bodybuilders before they compete to lose excess fat in stubborn areas. I have not tried them on my stomach but they would probably have a similar effect there.​

I hope I've contributed something to this cesspool. Always try fully softmaxxing before doing something more drastic. I guarantee you, there is a solution to almost everything you want out there if you look.

Can volufiline lift up the eyes and the eye corner and give you a Pct?

 

[ungewist]

Checkout my newer thread. I have a very masculine appearance and have often been told I look "intimidating" by foids. To overcome this I basically just choose to include slight elements of femininity into my appearance without going overboard and not in every situation, and it has worked. Everytime I've gotten the most attention from girls was when I was gymcelling and rocking jewelry/looking a bit prettyboy .

Can volufiline lift up the eyes and the eye corner and give you a Pct?

 

[ungewist]

Checkout my newer thread. I have a very masculine appearance and have often been told I look "intimidating" by foids. To overcome this I basically just choose to include slight elements of femininity into my appearance without going overboard and not in every situation, and it has worked. Everytime I've gotten the most attention from girls was when I was gymcelling and rocking jewelry/looking a bit prettyboy .

will volufiline lift up the outer corners of the eye and give a pct because i have a slightly negative canthal tilt

 

[Deleted member 30843]

tear through a look cool asf imo

 

[DREAMER2001]

Thank u needed this. I lost my under eyes from brutal stress and now there is no fat and huge shadow in bad lightning

Holy shit you are jawless

 

[TheBrownOne]

The hyoid streches are actually so useful.
That and the one where you look straight up. Swallow with your tongue at the top keep looking up and then release
Those two are dope but the 2nd one feels a bit painful sometimes so I rarely do it now

 

[9Romance]

i

This is my first thread so bear with me if it's formatted terribly. I came to this board for two reasons, tear trough in under eye area and a low hyoid/slight double chin. They have both been resolved through persistent research and experimentation through a combo of what I found on this board and in the depths of google. I don't have proof as I'm a public figure somewhat and will not be revealing my face but the methods I'll be outlining are relatively cheap, quick, low risk and non-invasive to try out yourselves.

>inb4 didn't read, idc

Tear Trough
If you have dark circles under your eyes even though you eat a healthy diet, supplement properly, sleep 7-9 hours a night, have tried sleep supplements to improve your sleep (ZMA, glycine, tart cherry extract), and stopped smoking weed, nicotine, alcohol or caffeine, it is most likely because the skin under your eyes is thin. This also doesn't necessarily apply to certain ethnicities who may have genetic under eye darkness or hyperpigmentation such as some blacks and South or Southeast Asians. If that is the case you will have to unfortunately use your judgement if this is useful to you and may find help with the traditionally touted methods such as green tea bags, caffeine, vitamin K, vitamin C, almond oil, or hydroquinone (dyor, much more out there on this). Note also that your under eye area may be recessed, in my case it wasn't. You can tell if you touch there. If there is bone immediately there and your skin is paper-thin you aren't recessed and it is your skin. This will help you even if you are recessed but it won't eliminate the problem as completely as you'd like.

1. Latisse or Eyelash/brow Growth Gels
As good as these are for improving your eyebrows or lashes if you have thin skin under your eyes I wouldn't recommend you continue their use as some of the side effects of these products include reddening and hyperpigmentation of the area on the eyelid and under eyes. Instead you can try a cope method like myself such as castor oil, rosemary oil, peppermint oil or a combo of these. Other methods are often talked about on this site but for example you can use something to fraud like E.L.F. Wow Brow gel for brows, CoverGirl Professional Natural Lash Mascara Clear for lashes and use an eyelash curler to slightly curl your lashes for a similar effect. The choice is yours, now for the actual good stuff.

2. Lipofilling Agents
These methods are mentioned on this site if you search very carefully but no one has explicitly talked about their results, probably because they're mainly found in obscure as fuck East Asian skincare. Well I ordered some and they work. These agents are topical and increase fat storage in the cells on which they are applied, causing them to plump up. The companies themselves claim this effect is permanent but I have only used them for 2-3 weeks so I do not know if they last if I stop them. What I do know is there are hundreds of idiots claiming they do not work because having a filler-like effect topically is impossible. I can assure you they work and the area under my eyes is about 3 times thicker than it was 3 weeks ago and I finally look like I'm not tired all the time. UNDERSTAND THIS, THESE AGENTS HAVE A FILLING EFFECT. They can be used on any part of the body and females use them to plump anything from their butts, breasts, zygos/cheekbone or lips. They have big implications if you understand what they can do. However, I will also warn you that some people do not experience this effect equally on different parts of the body or sometimes experience no effect with one but do with another.

1. Volufiline (Anemarrhena Asphodeloides and Hydrogenated Polyisobutene)​

Here is an example of a girl who used this and it worked. This product was synthesized by a French company, Sederma, from a plant used in East Asia for millenia called Zhi Mu. The one I used was [ Volufiline 10ml ] Cosmetic Ingredient - 100% Volufiline Ampoule 10ml(0.34 fl. oz) France SEDERMA | Cosmetic Grade | For face and body Improve Skin Elasticity, Wrinkle Improvement. I have attached a pic in case the Amazon product link disappears. You can either mix it with a cream or put it on the areas you want to plump up like that. It is an oil so it will be annoying to use on its own but that is how I used it. Just one drop on my finger per eye and put it on my undereye dark circles and on my cheekbone. BE CAREFUL, DO NOT put this on areas you do not want to plump up!​

View attachment 1727693​

2. Voluplus (Macelignan)​

This is another agent but less common. I have not used this one but it also works. You will likely have to find some Korean/Japanese product that uses this as an ingredient. Here is one I found on Amazon but having a pure 100% version would be more ideal.​

3. Pueraria Mirificia​

Same as 2. less common but if you want to use it find a product and make sure it has this ingredient in the listing.​

4. Adipofill​

Same as 2. less common but they have this product on Amazon.​

5. EGF (Epidermal Growth Factor)​

This is something I have used and it works as well. I would recommend using it after you've maxed out the results from one of the top 4 though as it will basically just increase your results but not as much as the others. I would not recommend the ampoule 100% for this but rather this product from Sidmool. Same type of application, be careful where you use it.​

View attachment 1727704​

6. BRTC Salmon Fillex Volume Injection​

I have not used this yet as it hasn't gotten delivered. On top of Volufiline this product includes salmon extracts and achieves similar results (not sure if the salmon extracts do anything extra or it's the Volufiline).​

7. Dermofuture Intensive Lip Plumper (BONUS FOR LIPS ONLY)​

Items 1, 2, 3, 4 and 5 will work to plump lips a bit indefinitely if you want that. However, this product does the same thing but temporarily. It does not have the lipofilling effect on your undereyes and zygos. It is also quite hard to get in most places as it is a Polish product but theoretically you can check the ingredients and any similar cream will achieve the same results.​

​

Low Hyoid/Slight Chin Fat
I have a low hyoid and keep myself at 14% bodyfat because I have a large skull and highly pronounced large features which look stupid on a skinny/non-muscular build with some body fat. I am not of the opinion that 10-12% bodyfat is ideal unless you have a smaller skull or are on steroids to achieve such a look while maintaining a large neck/traps. Anyway I will keep this quick because the way to solve this is simple and was covered in a BOTB thread.

1. Hyoid Exercises​

Read this thread: https://looksmax.org/threads/raising-hyoid-bone.84578/. Do the high speed jaw opening exercise, it works and in even just a week you will notice a difference. My entire swallowing pattern and occlusion modified as a result. Shoutout to these posters for making an excellent thread. I am very thankful. Facial exercises in general are incredibly useful and do work and I do facial exercises before bed for about 5 minutes dyor there are so many on youtube for every type of issue you may want to improve on, including cheeks!​

2. Lipo-Reducing Agents​

The hyoid raising exercises already work and do 90% of your heavy lifting here. If you want to maintain a slightly higher bf (again you cannot be closing in on 20% bf and expect this to work) you can use lipo-reducing agents to tone and reduce your under-chin fat (AGAIN BE CAREFUL WHERE YOU PUT THIS). Simply search "lipo gel" on Amazon and you will find many options to choose from. They all have similar ingredients. I use them before bed after my skincare routine and sleep on my back. They work, simple, just don't think they will completely melt away all your fat, the change is slight but very noticeable to the human eye. They are made for bodybuilders before they compete to lose excess fat in stubborn areas. I have not tried them on my stomach but they would probably have a similar effect there.​

I hope I've contributed something to this cesspool. Always try fully softmaxxing before doing something more drastic. I guarantee you, there is a solution to almost everything you want out there if you look.

if your buying all this it never began

 

[inwardgonionscel]

I tried volufiline for 3 days and I already see some slight smoothing of my nasolabial fold, this shit is legit and I hope u OP go to Gandy heaven. Jfl at evet using that garbage retin a that constantly peels ur skin and gives u red face

Ur trolling or what ?

 

[inwardgonionscel]

i

if your buying all this it never began

Yea but that's lifefuel ngl

 

[spirili]

I used volufiline on my dark circles and nasolabial folds for a few months earlier this year, and didn't notice a difference. I literally used the same product OP used:

These areas on my face recently started to get a bit worse so I'm gonna try some of the other products OP listed. I'll go with
4. Adipofill and 5. EGF (Epidermal Growth Factor)

I can't be caught using number 2 on OP's list since it's literally a butt cream for women jfl, and the only other product i found with that ingredient is a breast enhancing cream. Looksmaxing continues to make me feel gay

If this doesn't work I might have to use fillers.

@alriodai @Nims @Soalian @WagedandReady

 

[jflkiefmaxxing]

This is my first thread so bear with me if it's formatted terribly. I came to this board for two reasons, tear trough in under eye area and a low hyoid/slight double chin. They have both been resolved through persistent research and experimentation through a combo of what I found on this board and in the depths of google. I don't have proof as I'm a public figure somewhat and will not be revealing my face but the methods I'll be outlining are relatively cheap, quick, low risk and non-invasive to try out yourselves.

>inb4 didn't read, idc

Tear Trough
If you have dark circles under your eyes even though you eat a healthy diet, supplement properly, sleep 7-9 hours a night, have tried sleep supplements to improve your sleep (ZMA, glycine, tart cherry extract), and stopped smoking weed, nicotine, alcohol or caffeine, it is most likely because the skin under your eyes is thin. This also doesn't necessarily apply to certain ethnicities who may have genetic under eye darkness or hyperpigmentation such as some blacks and South or Southeast Asians. If that is the case you will have to unfortunately use your judgement if this is useful to you and may find help with the traditionally touted methods such as green tea bags, caffeine, vitamin K, vitamin C, almond oil, or hydroquinone (dyor, much more out there on this). Note also that your under eye area may be recessed, in my case it wasn't. You can tell if you touch there. If there is bone immediately there and your skin is paper-thin you aren't recessed and it is your skin. This will help you even if you are recessed but it won't eliminate the problem as completely as you'd like.

1. Latisse or Eyelash/brow Growth Gels
As good as these are for improving your eyebrows or lashes if you have thin skin under your eyes I wouldn't recommend you continue their use as some of the side effects of these products include reddening and hyperpigmentation of the area on the eyelid and under eyes. Instead you can try a cope method like myself such as castor oil, rosemary oil, peppermint oil or a combo of these. Other methods are often talked about on this site but for example you can use something to fraud like E.L.F. Wow Brow gel for brows, CoverGirl Professional Natural Lash Mascara Clear for lashes and use an eyelash curler to slightly curl your lashes for a similar effect. The choice is yours, now for the actual good stuff.

2. Lipofilling Agents
These methods are mentioned on this site if you search very carefully but no one has explicitly talked about their results, probably because they're mainly found in obscure as fuck East Asian skincare. Well I ordered some and they work. These agents are topical and increase fat storage in the cells on which they are applied, causing them to plump up. The companies themselves claim this effect is permanent but I have only used them for 2-3 weeks so I do not know if they last if I stop them. What I do know is there are hundreds of idiots claiming they do not work because having a filler-like effect topically is impossible. I can assure you they work and the area under my eyes is about 3 times thicker than it was 3 weeks ago and I finally look like I'm not tired all the time. UNDERSTAND THIS, THESE AGENTS HAVE A FILLING EFFECT. They can be used on any part of the body and females use them to plump anything from their butts, breasts, zygos/cheekbone or lips. They have big implications if you understand what they can do. However, I will also warn you that some people do not experience this effect equally on different parts of the body or sometimes experience no effect with one but do with another.

1. Volufiline (Anemarrhena Asphodeloides and Hydrogenated Polyisobutene)​

Here is an example of a girl who used this and it worked. This product was synthesized by a French company, Sederma, from a plant used in East Asia for millenia called Zhi Mu. The one I used was [ Volufiline 10ml ] Cosmetic Ingredient - 100% Volufiline Ampoule 10ml(0.34 fl. oz) France SEDERMA | Cosmetic Grade | For face and body Improve Skin Elasticity, Wrinkle Improvement. I have attached a pic in case the Amazon product link disappears. You can either mix it with a cream or put it on the areas you want to plump up like that. It is an oil so it will be annoying to use on its own but that is how I used it. Just one drop on my finger per eye and put it on my undereye dark circles and on my cheekbone. BE CAREFUL, DO NOT put this on areas you do not want to plump up!​

View attachment 1727693​

2. Voluplus (Macelignan)​

This is another agent but less common. I have not used this one but it also works. You will likely have to find some Korean/Japanese product that uses this as an ingredient. Here is one I found on Amazon but having a pure 100% version would be more ideal.​

3. Pueraria Mirificia​

Same as 2. less common but if you want to use it find a product and make sure it has this ingredient in the listing.​

4. Adipofill​

Same as 2. less common but they have this product on Amazon.​

5. EGF (Epidermal Growth Factor)​

This is something I have used and it works as well. I would recommend using it after you've maxed out the results from one of the top 4 though as it will basically just increase your results but not as much as the others. I would not recommend the ampoule 100% for this but rather this product from Sidmool. Same type of application, be careful where you use it.​

View attachment 1727704​

6. BRTC Salmon Fillex Volume Injection​

I have not used this yet as it hasn't gotten delivered. On top of Volufiline this product includes salmon extracts and achieves similar results (not sure if the salmon extracts do anything extra or it's the Volufiline).​

7. Dermofuture Intensive Lip Plumper (BONUS FOR LIPS ONLY)​

Items 1, 2, 3, 4 and 5 will work to plump lips a bit indefinitely if you want that. However, this product does the same thing but temporarily. It does not have the lipofilling effect on your undereyes and zygos. It is also quite hard to get in most places as it is a Polish product but theoretically you can check the ingredients and any similar cream will achieve the same results.​

​

Low Hyoid/Slight Chin Fat
I have a low hyoid and keep myself at 14% bodyfat because I have a large skull and highly pronounced large features which look stupid on a skinny/non-muscular build with some body fat. I am not of the opinion that 10-12% bodyfat is ideal unless you have a smaller skull or are on steroids to achieve such a look while maintaining a large neck/traps. Anyway I will keep this quick because the way to solve this is simple and was covered in a BOTB thread.

1. Hyoid Exercises​

Read this thread: https://looksmax.org/threads/raising-hyoid-bone.84578/. Do the high speed jaw opening exercise, it works and in even just a week you will notice a difference. My entire swallowing pattern and occlusion modified as a result. Shoutout to these posters for making an excellent thread. I am very thankful. Facial exercises in general are incredibly useful and do work and I do facial exercises before bed for about 5 minutes dyor there are so many on youtube for every type of issue you may want to improve on, including cheeks!​

2. Lipo-Reducing Agents​

The hyoid raising exercises already work and do 90% of your heavy lifting here. If you want to maintain a slightly higher bf (again you cannot be closing in on 20% bf and expect this to work) you can use lipo-reducing agents to tone and reduce your under-chin fat (AGAIN BE CAREFUL WHERE YOU PUT THIS). Simply search "lipo gel" on Amazon and you will find many options to choose from. They all have similar ingredients. I use them before bed after my skincare routine and sleep on my back. They work, simple, just don't think they will completely melt away all your fat, the change is slight but very noticeable to the human eye. They are made for bodybuilders before they compete to lose excess fat in stubborn areas. I have not tried them on my stomach but they would probably have a similar effect there.​

I hope I've contributed something to this cesspool. Always try fully softmaxxing before doing something more drastic. I guarantee you, there is a solution to almost everything you want out there if you look.

Appreciate it bookmarked

 

[FrenchAscension]

This is my first thread so bear with me if it's formatted terribly. I came to this board for two reasons, tear trough in under eye area and a low hyoid/slight double chin. They have both been resolved through persistent research and experimentation through a combo of what I found on this board and in the depths of google. I don't have proof as I'm a public figure somewhat and will not be revealing my face but the methods I'll be outlining are relatively cheap, quick, low risk and non-invasive to try out yourselves.

>inb4 didn't read, idc

Tear Trough
If you have dark circles under your eyes even though you eat a healthy diet, supplement properly, sleep 7-9 hours a night, have tried sleep supplements to improve your sleep (ZMA, glycine, tart cherry extract), and stopped smoking weed, nicotine, alcohol or caffeine, it is most likely because the skin under your eyes is thin. This also doesn't necessarily apply to certain ethnicities who may have genetic under eye darkness or hyperpigmentation such as some blacks and South or Southeast Asians. If that is the case you will have to unfortunately use your judgement if this is useful to you and may find help with the traditionally touted methods such as green tea bags, caffeine, vitamin K, vitamin C, almond oil, or hydroquinone (dyor, much more out there on this). Note also that your under eye area may be recessed, in my case it wasn't. You can tell if you touch there. If there is bone immediately there and your skin is paper-thin you aren't recessed and it is your skin. This will help you even if you are recessed but it won't eliminate the problem as completely as you'd like.

1. Latisse or Eyelash/brow Growth Gels
As good as these are for improving your eyebrows or lashes if you have thin skin under your eyes I wouldn't recommend you continue their use as some of the side effects of these products include reddening and hyperpigmentation of the area on the eyelid and under eyes. Instead you can try a cope method like myself such as castor oil, rosemary oil, peppermint oil or a combo of these. Other methods are often talked about on this site but for example you can use something to fraud like E.L.F. Wow Brow gel for brows, CoverGirl Professional Natural Lash Mascara Clear for lashes and use an eyelash curler to slightly curl your lashes for a similar effect. The choice is yours, now for the actual good stuff.

2. Lipofilling Agents
These methods are mentioned on this site if you search very carefully but no one has explicitly talked about their results, probably because they're mainly found in obscure as fuck East Asian skincare. Well I ordered some and they work. These agents are topical and increase fat storage in the cells on which they are applied, causing them to plump up. The companies themselves claim this effect is permanent but I have only used them for 2-3 weeks so I do not know if they last if I stop them. What I do know is there are hundreds of idiots claiming they do not work because having a filler-like effect topically is impossible. I can assure you they work and the area under my eyes is about 3 times thicker than it was 3 weeks ago and I finally look like I'm not tired all the time. UNDERSTAND THIS, THESE AGENTS HAVE A FILLING EFFECT. They can be used on any part of the body and females use them to plump anything from their butts, breasts, zygos/cheekbone or lips. They have big implications if you understand what they can do. However, I will also warn you that some people do not experience this effect equally on different parts of the body or sometimes experience no effect with one but do with another.

1. Volufiline (Anemarrhena Asphodeloides and Hydrogenated Polyisobutene)​

Here is an example of a girl who used this and it worked. This product was synthesized by a French company, Sederma, from a plant used in East Asia for millenia called Zhi Mu. The one I used was [ Volufiline 10ml ] Cosmetic Ingredient - 100% Volufiline Ampoule 10ml(0.34 fl. oz) France SEDERMA | Cosmetic Grade | For face and body Improve Skin Elasticity, Wrinkle Improvement. I have attached a pic in case the Amazon product link disappears. You can either mix it with a cream or put it on the areas you want to plump up like that. It is an oil so it will be annoying to use on its own but that is how I used it. Just one drop on my finger per eye and put it on my undereye dark circles and on my cheekbone. BE CAREFUL, DO NOT put this on areas you do not want to plump up!​

View attachment 1727693​

2. Voluplus (Macelignan)​

This is another agent but less common. I have not used this one but it also works. You will likely have to find some Korean/Japanese product that uses this as an ingredient. Here is one I found on Amazon but having a pure 100% version would be more ideal.​

3. Pueraria Mirificia​

Same as 2. less common but if you want to use it find a product and make sure it has this ingredient in the listing.​

4. Adipofill​

Same as 2. less common but they have this product on Amazon.​

5. EGF (Epidermal Growth Factor)​

This is something I have used and it works as well. I would recommend using it after you've maxed out the results from one of the top 4 though as it will basically just increase your results but not as much as the others. I would not recommend the ampoule 100% for this but rather this product from Sidmool. Same type of application, be careful where you use it.​

View attachment 1727704​

6. BRTC Salmon Fillex Volume Injection​

I have not used this yet as it hasn't gotten delivered. On top of Volufiline this product includes salmon extracts and achieves similar results (not sure if the salmon extracts do anything extra or it's the Volufiline).​

7. Dermofuture Intensive Lip Plumper (BONUS FOR LIPS ONLY)​

Items 1, 2, 3, 4 and 5 will work to plump lips a bit indefinitely if you want that. However, this product does the same thing but temporarily. It does not have the lipofilling effect on your undereyes and zygos. It is also quite hard to get in most places as it is a Polish product but theoretically you can check the ingredients and any similar cream will achieve the same results.​

​

Low Hyoid/Slight Chin Fat
I have a low hyoid and keep myself at 14% bodyfat because I have a large skull and highly pronounced large features which look stupid on a skinny/non-muscular build with some body fat. I am not of the opinion that 10-12% bodyfat is ideal unless you have a smaller skull or are on steroids to achieve such a look while maintaining a large neck/traps. Anyway I will keep this quick because the way to solve this is simple and was covered in a BOTB thread.

1. Hyoid Exercises​

Read this thread: https://looksmax.org/threads/raising-hyoid-bone.84578/. Do the high speed jaw opening exercise, it works and in even just a week you will notice a difference. My entire swallowing pattern and occlusion modified as a result. Shoutout to these posters for making an excellent thread. I am very thankful. Facial exercises in general are incredibly useful and do work and I do facial exercises before bed for about 5 minutes dyor there are so many on youtube for every type of issue you may want to improve on, including cheeks!​

2. Lipo-Reducing Agents​

The hyoid raising exercises already work and do 90% of your heavy lifting here. If you want to maintain a slightly higher bf (again you cannot be closing in on 20% bf and expect this to work) you can use lipo-reducing agents to tone and reduce your under-chin fat (AGAIN BE CAREFUL WHERE YOU PUT THIS). Simply search "lipo gel" on Amazon and you will find many options to choose from. They all have similar ingredients. I use them before bed after my skincare routine and sleep on my back. They work, simple, just don't think they will completely melt away all your fat, the change is slight but very noticeable to the human eye. They are made for bodybuilders before they compete to lose excess fat in stubborn areas. I have not tried them on my stomach but they would probably have a similar effect there.​

I hope I've contributed something to this cesspool. Always try fully softmaxxing before doing something more drastic. I guarantee you, there is a solution to almost everything you want out there if you look.

We already have all this information you idiot

 

[beckylover]

dnr

 

[๕ඞChick3ncu1ry]

This is my first thread so bear with me if it's formatted terribly. I came to this board for two reasons, tear trough in under eye area and a low hyoid/slight double chin. They have both been resolved through persistent research and experimentation through a combo of what I found on this board and in the depths of google. I don't have proof as I'm a public figure somewhat and will not be revealing my face but the methods I'll be outlining are relatively cheap, quick, low risk and non-invasive to try out yourselves.

>inb4 didn't read, idc

Tear Trough
If you have dark circles under your eyes even though you eat a healthy diet, supplement properly, sleep 7-9 hours a night, have tried sleep supplements to improve your sleep (ZMA, glycine, tart cherry extract), and stopped smoking weed, nicotine, alcohol or caffeine, it is most likely because the skin under your eyes is thin. This also doesn't necessarily apply to certain ethnicities who may have genetic under eye darkness or hyperpigmentation such as some blacks and South or Southeast Asians. If that is the case you will have to unfortunately use your judgement if this is useful to you and may find help with the traditionally touted methods such as green tea bags, caffeine, vitamin K, vitamin C, almond oil, or hydroquinone (dyor, much more out there on this). Note also that your under eye area may be recessed, in my case it wasn't. You can tell if you touch there. If there is bone immediately there and your skin is paper-thin you aren't recessed and it is your skin. This will help you even if you are recessed but it won't eliminate the problem as completely as you'd like.

1. Latisse or Eyelash/brow Growth Gels
As good as these are for improving your eyebrows or lashes if you have thin skin under your eyes I wouldn't recommend you continue their use as some of the side effects of these products include reddening and hyperpigmentation of the area on the eyelid and under eyes. Instead you can try a cope method like myself such as castor oil, rosemary oil, peppermint oil or a combo of these. Other methods are often talked about on this site but for example you can use something to fraud like E.L.F. Wow Brow gel for brows, CoverGirl Professional Natural Lash Mascara Clear for lashes and use an eyelash curler to slightly curl your lashes for a similar effect. The choice is yours, now for the actual good stuff.

2. Lipofilling Agents
These methods are mentioned on this site if you search very carefully but no one has explicitly talked about their results, probably because they're mainly found in obscure as fuck East Asian skincare. Well I ordered some and they work. These agents are topical and increase fat storage in the cells on which they are applied, causing them to plump up. The companies themselves claim this effect is permanent but I have only used them for 2-3 weeks so I do not know if they last if I stop them. What I do know is there are hundreds of idiots claiming they do not work because having a filler-like effect topically is impossible. I can assure you they work and the area under my eyes is about 3 times thicker than it was 3 weeks ago and I finally look like I'm not tired all the time. UNDERSTAND THIS, THESE AGENTS HAVE A FILLING EFFECT. They can be used on any part of the body and females use them to plump anything from their butts, breasts, zygos/cheekbone or lips. They have big implications if you understand what they can do. However, I will also warn you that some people do not experience this effect equally on different parts of the body or sometimes experience no effect with one but do with another.

1. Volufiline (Anemarrhena Asphodeloides and Hydrogenated Polyisobutene)​

Here is an example of a girl who used this and it worked. This product was synthesized by a French company, Sederma, from a plant used in East Asia for millenia called Zhi Mu. The one I used was [ Volufiline 10ml ] Cosmetic Ingredient - 100% Volufiline Ampoule 10ml(0.34 fl. oz) France SEDERMA | Cosmetic Grade | For face and body Improve Skin Elasticity, Wrinkle Improvement. I have attached a pic in case the Amazon product link disappears. You can either mix it with a cream or put it on the areas you want to plump up like that. It is an oil so it will be annoying to use on its own but that is how I used it. Just one drop on my finger per eye and put it on my undereye dark circles and on my cheekbone. BE CAREFUL, DO NOT put this on areas you do not want to plump up!​

View attachment 1727693​

2. Voluplus (Macelignan)​

This is another agent but less common. I have not used this one but it also works. You will likely have to find some Korean/Japanese product that uses this as an ingredient. Here is one I found on Amazon but having a pure 100% version would be more ideal.​

3. Pueraria Mirificia​

Same as 2. less common but if you want to use it find a product and make sure it has this ingredient in the listing.​

4. Adipofill​

Same as 2. less common but they have this product on Amazon.​

5. EGF (Epidermal Growth Factor)​

This is something I have used and it works as well. I would recommend using it after you've maxed out the results from one of the top 4 though as it will basically just increase your results but not as much as the others. I would not recommend the ampoule 100% for this but rather this product from Sidmool. Same type of application, be careful where you use it.​

View attachment 1727704​

6. BRTC Salmon Fillex Volume Injection​

I have not used this yet as it hasn't gotten delivered. On top of Volufiline this product includes salmon extracts and achieves similar results (not sure if the salmon extracts do anything extra or it's the Volufiline).​

7. Dermofuture Intensive Lip Plumper (BONUS FOR LIPS ONLY)​

Items 1, 2, 3, 4 and 5 will work to plump lips a bit indefinitely if you want that. However, this product does the same thing but temporarily. It does not have the lipofilling effect on your undereyes and zygos. It is also quite hard to get in most places as it is a Polish product but theoretically you can check the ingredients and any similar cream will achieve the same results.​

​

Low Hyoid/Slight Chin Fat
I have a low hyoid and keep myself at 14% bodyfat because I have a large skull and highly pronounced large features which look stupid on a skinny/non-muscular build with some body fat. I am not of the opinion that 10-12% bodyfat is ideal unless you have a smaller skull or are on steroids to achieve such a look while maintaining a large neck/traps. Anyway I will keep this quick because the way to solve this is simple and was covered in a BOTB thread.

1. Hyoid Exercises​

Read this thread: https://looksmax.org/threads/raising-hyoid-bone.84578/. Do the high speed jaw opening exercise, it works and in even just a week you will notice a difference. My entire swallowing pattern and occlusion modified as a result. Shoutout to these posters for making an excellent thread. I am very thankful. Facial exercises in general are incredibly useful and do work and I do facial exercises before bed for about 5 minutes dyor there are so many on youtube for every type of issue you may want to improve on, including cheeks!​

2. Lipo-Reducing Agents​

The hyoid raising exercises already work and do 90% of your heavy lifting here. If you want to maintain a slightly higher bf (again you cannot be closing in on 20% bf and expect this to work) you can use lipo-reducing agents to tone and reduce your under-chin fat (AGAIN BE CAREFUL WHERE YOU PUT THIS). Simply search "lipo gel" on Amazon and you will find many options to choose from. They all have similar ingredients. I use them before bed after my skincare routine and sleep on my back. They work, simple, just don't think they will completely melt away all your fat, the change is slight but very noticeable to the human eye. They are made for bodybuilders before they compete to lose excess fat in stubborn areas. I have not tried them on my stomach but they would probably have a similar effect there.​

I hope I've contributed something to this cesspool. Always try fully softmaxxing before doing something more drastic. I guarantee you, there is a solution to almost everything you want out there if you look.

Cope


Where is BECCA or Catrice under eyes brightener

 

[typeshitboutme]

This is my first thread so bear with me if it's formatted terribly. I came to this board for two reasons, tear trough in under eye area and a low hyoid/slight double chin. They have both been resolved through persistent research and experimentation through a combo of what I found on this board and in the depths of google. I don't have proof as I'm a public figure somewhat and will not be revealing my face but the methods I'll be outlining are relatively cheap, quick, low risk and non-invasive to try out yourselves.

>inb4 didn't read, idc

Tear Trough
If you have dark circles under your eyes even though you eat a healthy diet, supplement properly, sleep 7-9 hours a night, have tried sleep supplements to improve your sleep (ZMA, glycine, tart cherry extract), and stopped smoking weed, nicotine, alcohol or caffeine, it is most likely because the skin under your eyes is thin. This also doesn't necessarily apply to certain ethnicities who may have genetic under eye darkness or hyperpigmentation such as some blacks and South or Southeast Asians. If that is the case you will have to unfortunately use your judgement if this is useful to you and may find help with the traditionally touted methods such as green tea bags, caffeine, vitamin K, vitamin C, almond oil, or hydroquinone (dyor, much more out there on this). Note also that your under eye area may be recessed, in my case it wasn't. You can tell if you touch there. If there is bone immediately there and your skin is paper-thin you aren't recessed and it is your skin. This will help you even if you are recessed but it won't eliminate the problem as completely as you'd like.

1. Latisse or Eyelash/brow Growth Gels
As good as these are for improving your eyebrows or lashes if you have thin skin under your eyes I wouldn't recommend you continue their use as some of the side effects of these products include reddening and hyperpigmentation of the area on the eyelid and under eyes. Instead you can try a cope method like myself such as castor oil, rosemary oil, peppermint oil or a combo of these. Other methods are often talked about on this site but for example you can use something to fraud like E.L.F. Wow Brow gel for brows, CoverGirl Professional Natural Lash Mascara Clear for lashes and use an eyelash curler to slightly curl your lashes for a similar effect. The choice is yours, now for the actual good stuff.

2. Lipofilling Agents
These methods are mentioned on this site if you search very carefully but no one has explicitly talked about their results, probably because they're mainly found in obscure as fuck East Asian skincare. Well I ordered some and they work. These agents are topical and increase fat storage in the cells on which they are applied, causing them to plump up. The companies themselves claim this effect is permanent but I have only used them for 2-3 weeks so I do not know if they last if I stop them. What I do know is there are hundreds of idiots claiming they do not work because having a filler-like effect topically is impossible. I can assure you they work and the area under my eyes is about 3 times thicker than it was 3 weeks ago and I finally look like I'm not tired all the time. UNDERSTAND THIS, THESE AGENTS HAVE A FILLING EFFECT. They can be used on any part of the body and females use them to plump anything from their butts, breasts, zygos/cheekbone or lips. They have big implications if you understand what they can do. However, I will also warn you that some people do not experience this effect equally on different parts of the body or sometimes experience no effect with one but do with another.

1. Volufiline (Anemarrhena Asphodeloides and Hydrogenated Polyisobutene)​

Here is an example of a girl who used this and it worked. This product was synthesized by a French company, Sederma, from a plant used in East Asia for millenia called Zhi Mu. The one I used was [ Volufiline 10ml ] Cosmetic Ingredient - 100% Volufiline Ampoule 10ml(0.34 fl. oz) France SEDERMA | Cosmetic Grade | For face and body Improve Skin Elasticity, Wrinkle Improvement. I have attached a pic in case the Amazon product link disappears. You can either mix it with a cream or put it on the areas you want to plump up like that. It is an oil so it will be annoying to use on its own but that is how I used it. Just one drop on my finger per eye and put it on my undereye dark circles and on my cheekbone. BE CAREFUL, DO NOT put this on areas you do not want to plump up!​

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2. Voluplus (Macelignan)​

This is another agent but less common. I have not used this one but it also works. You will likely have to find some Korean/Japanese product that uses this as an ingredient. Here is one I found on Amazon but having a pure 100% version would be more ideal.​

3. Pueraria Mirificia​

Same as 2. less common but if you want to use it find a product and make sure it has this ingredient in the listing.​

4. Adipofill​

Same as 2. less common but they have this product on Amazon.​

5. EGF (Epidermal Growth Factor)​

This is something I have used and it works as well. I would recommend using it after you've maxed out the results from one of the top 4 though as it will basically just increase your results but not as much as the others. I would not recommend the ampoule 100% for this but rather this product from Sidmool. Same type of application, be careful where you use it.​

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6. BRTC Salmon Fillex Volume Injection​

I have not used this yet as it hasn't gotten delivered. On top of Volufiline this product includes salmon extracts and achieves similar results (not sure if the salmon extracts do anything extra or it's the Volufiline).​

7. Dermofuture Intensive Lip Plumper (BONUS FOR LIPS ONLY)​

Items 1, 2, 3, 4 and 5 will work to plump lips a bit indefinitely if you want that. However, this product does the same thing but temporarily. It does not have the lipofilling effect on your undereyes and zygos. It is also quite hard to get in most places as it is a Polish product but theoretically you can check the ingredients and any similar cream will achieve the same results.​

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Low Hyoid/Slight Chin Fat
I have a low hyoid and keep myself at 14% bodyfat because I have a large skull and highly pronounced large features which look stupid on a skinny/non-muscular build with some body fat. I am not of the opinion that 10-12% bodyfat is ideal unless you have a smaller skull or are on steroids to achieve such a look while maintaining a large neck/traps. Anyway I will keep this quick because the way to solve this is simple and was covered in a BOTB thread.

1. Hyoid Exercises​

Read this thread: https://looksmax.org/threads/raising-hyoid-bone.84578/. Do the high speed jaw opening exercise, it works and in even just a week you will notice a difference. My entire swallowing pattern and occlusion modified as a result. Shoutout to these posters for making an excellent thread. I am very thankful. Facial exercises in general are incredibly useful and do work and I do facial exercises before bed for about 5 minutes dyor there are so many on youtube for every type of issue you may want to improve on, including cheeks!​

2. Lipo-Reducing Agents​

The hyoid raising exercises already work and do 90% of your heavy lifting here. If you want to maintain a slightly higher bf (again you cannot be closing in on 20% bf and expect this to work) you can use lipo-reducing agents to tone and reduce your under-chin fat (AGAIN BE CAREFUL WHERE YOU PUT THIS). Simply search "lipo gel" on Amazon and you will find many options to choose from. They all have similar ingredients. I use them before bed after my skincare routine and sleep on my back. They work, simple, just don't think they will completely melt away all your fat, the change is slight but very noticeable to the human eye. They are made for bodybuilders before they compete to lose excess fat in stubborn areas. I have not tried them on my stomach but they would probably have a similar effect there.​

I hope I've contributed something to this cesspool. Always try fully softmaxxing before doing something more drastic. I guarantee you, there is a solution to almost everything you want out there if you look.

Gonna read this later

 

[ronald_2]

I havent realized how low my hyoid bone is. I just took some pictures from the side, in one being relaxed and in the other holding a swallow, and the difference it makes is astonishing. When being relaxed I look jawless, even fat, and when I hold a swallow it looks like I have a jaw.

I truly hope those hyoid excercises work. It would be an amazing looksmax for me.

 

[B8O8H8]

If i mix 50 ml moisturiser with 10ml of Volufiline would they create a good concentration to put under my eyes before bed or should i just mix it in wit one drop with one bit of moisturiser for each eye or put the drop of Volufiline on bare skin the the moisturiser over the top ?

 

[Foidmaxxer]

DNR all comes down to your maxilla

 

[mahboul]

This is my first thread so bear with me if it's formatted terribly. I came to this board for two reasons, tear trough in under eye area and a low hyoid/slight double chin. They have both been resolved through persistent research and experimentation through a combo of what I found on this board and in the depths of google. I don't have proof as I'm a public figure somewhat and will not be revealing my face but the methods I'll be outlining are relatively cheap, quick, low risk and non-invasive to try out yourselves.

>inb4 didn't read, idc

Tear Trough
If you have dark circles under your eyes even though you eat a healthy diet, supplement properly, sleep 7-9 hours a night, have tried sleep supplements to improve your sleep (ZMA, glycine, tart cherry extract), and stopped smoking weed, nicotine, alcohol or caffeine, it is most likely because the skin under your eyes is thin. This also doesn't necessarily apply to certain ethnicities who may have genetic under eye darkness or hyperpigmentation such as some blacks and South or Southeast Asians. If that is the case you will have to unfortunately use your judgement if this is useful to you and may find help with the traditionally touted methods such as green tea bags, caffeine, vitamin K, vitamin C, almond oil, or hydroquinone (dyor, much more out there on this). Note also that your under eye area may be recessed, in my case it wasn't. You can tell if you touch there. If there is bone immediately there and your skin is paper-thin you aren't recessed and it is your skin. This will help you even if you are recessed but it won't eliminate the problem as completely as you'd like.

1. Latisse or Eyelash/brow Growth Gels
As good as these are for improving your eyebrows or lashes if you have thin skin under your eyes I wouldn't recommend you continue their use as some of the side effects of these products include reddening and hyperpigmentation of the area on the eyelid and under eyes. Instead you can try a cope method like myself such as castor oil, rosemary oil, peppermint oil or a combo of these. Other methods are often talked about on this site but for example you can use something to fraud like E.L.F. Wow Brow gel for brows, CoverGirl Professional Natural Lash Mascara Clear for lashes and use an eyelash curler to slightly curl your lashes for a similar effect. The choice is yours, now for the actual good stuff.

2. Lipofilling Agents
These methods are mentioned on this site if you search very carefully but no one has explicitly talked about their results, probably because they're mainly found in obscure as fuck East Asian skincare. Well I ordered some and they work. These agents are topical and increase fat storage in the cells on which they are applied, causing them to plump up. The companies themselves claim this effect is permanent but I have only used them for 2-3 weeks so I do not know if they last if I stop them. What I do know is there are hundreds of idiots claiming they do not work because having a filler-like effect topically is impossible. I can assure you they work and the area under my eyes is about 3 times thicker than it was 3 weeks ago and I finally look like I'm not tired all the time. UNDERSTAND THIS, THESE AGENTS HAVE A FILLING EFFECT. They can be used on any part of the body and females use them to plump anything from their butts, breasts, zygos/cheekbone or lips. They have big implications if you understand what they can do. However, I will also warn you that some people do not experience this effect equally on different parts of the body or sometimes experience no effect with one but do with another.

1. Volufiline (Anemarrhena Asphodeloides and Hydrogenated Polyisobutene)​

Here is an example of a girl who used this and it worked. This product was synthesized by a French company, Sederma, from a plant used in East Asia for millenia called Zhi Mu. The one I used was [ Volufiline 10ml ] Cosmetic Ingredient - 100% Volufiline Ampoule 10ml(0.34 fl. oz) France SEDERMA | Cosmetic Grade | For face and body Improve Skin Elasticity, Wrinkle Improvement. I have attached a pic in case the Amazon product link disappears. You can either mix it with a cream or put it on the areas you want to plump up like that. It is an oil so it will be annoying to use on its own but that is how I used it. Just one drop on my finger per eye and put it on my undereye dark circles and on my cheekbone. BE CAREFUL, DO NOT put this on areas you do not want to plump up!​

View attachment 1727693​

2. Voluplus (Macelignan)​

This is another agent but less common. I have not used this one but it also works. You will likely have to find some Korean/Japanese product that uses this as an ingredient. Here is one I found on Amazon but having a pure 100% version would be more ideal.​

3. Pueraria Mirificia​

Same as 2. less common but if you want to use it find a product and make sure it has this ingredient in the listing.​

4. Adipofill​

Same as 2. less common but they have this product on Amazon.​

5. EGF (Epidermal Growth Factor)​

This is something I have used and it works as well. I would recommend using it after you've maxed out the results from one of the top 4 though as it will basically just increase your results but not as much as the others. I would not recommend the ampoule 100% for this but rather this product from Sidmool. Same type of application, be careful where you use it.​

View attachment 1727704​

6. BRTC Salmon Fillex Volume Injection​

I have not used this yet as it hasn't gotten delivered. On top of Volufiline this product includes salmon extracts and achieves similar results (not sure if the salmon extracts do anything extra or it's the Volufiline).​

7. Dermofuture Intensive Lip Plumper (BONUS FOR LIPS ONLY)​

Items 1, 2, 3, 4 and 5 will work to plump lips a bit indefinitely if you want that. However, this product does the same thing but temporarily. It does not have the lipofilling effect on your undereyes and zygos. It is also quite hard to get in most places as it is a Polish product but theoretically you can check the ingredients and any similar cream will achieve the same results.​

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Low Hyoid/Slight Chin Fat
I have a low hyoid and keep myself at 14% bodyfat because I have a large skull and highly pronounced large features which look stupid on a skinny/non-muscular build with some body fat. I am not of the opinion that 10-12% bodyfat is ideal unless you have a smaller skull or are on steroids to achieve such a look while maintaining a large neck/traps. Anyway I will keep this quick because the way to solve this is simple and was covered in a BOTB thread.

1. Hyoid Exercises​

Read this thread: https://looksmax.org/threads/raising-hyoid-bone.84578/. Do the high speed jaw opening exercise, it works and in even just a week you will notice a difference. My entire swallowing pattern and occlusion modified as a result. Shoutout to these posters for making an excellent thread. I am very thankful. Facial exercises in general are incredibly useful and do work and I do facial exercises before bed for about 5 minutes dyor there are so many on youtube for every type of issue you may want to improve on, including cheeks!​

2. Lipo-Reducing Agents​

The hyoid raising exercises already work and do 90% of your heavy lifting here. If you want to maintain a slightly higher bf (again you cannot be closing in on 20% bf and expect this to work) you can use lipo-reducing agents to tone and reduce your under-chin fat (AGAIN BE CAREFUL WHERE YOU PUT THIS). Simply search "lipo gel" on Amazon and you will find many options to choose from. They all have similar ingredients. I use them before bed after my skincare routine and sleep on my back. They work, simple, just don't think they will completely melt away all your fat, the change is slight but very noticeable to the human eye. They are made for bodybuilders before they compete to lose excess fat in stubborn areas. I have not tried them on my stomach but they would probably have a similar effect there.​

I hope I've contributed something to this cesspool. Always try fully softmaxxing before doing something more drastic. I guarantee you, there is a solution to almost everything you want out there if you look.

absolute banger of a thread.