Under eye Filler - Complication rate & Botch Rate

[Oesteogenesis]

Someone high iq here, who ideally got undereye fillers themselves how was your experience, did you experience any complications? and also if people know what is the botch rate/complication rate for Under eye dermal filler and botox (jelly roll/crooks feet) I found this crazy eye area transformation and i want to go get the exact same thing

Literally insane ngl, they had tear trough filler pretty sure they told them to add enough volume so the lower eyelid also goes up too but im scared of complications etc.. i have the money and within the next year i want to get this (Dermal filler under eye + Jelly roll botox)

 

[ybuyhgui]

botch rate seems to be very low, the issue lies in that most of it gets absorbed within 6 months, meaning you require constant top ups, making fat grafting the superior permanent option. People talk about the migration risk a lot but it seems to be largely overstated, the problem is purely in the temporary nature of fillers in my opinion.

 

[Deleted member 144017]

Bonesmash under eyes

 

[Oesteogenesis]

botch rate seems to be very low, the issue lies in that most of it gets absorbed within 6 months, meaning you require constant top ups, making fat grafting the superior permanent option. People talk about the migration risk a lot but it seems to be largely overstated, the problem is purely in the temporary nature of fillers in my opinion.

Honestly, fat grafting costs i think 30x the price of fillers so i might get fillers first to see how it looks before i commit to fat grafting thanks for the tip

 

[ybuyhgui]

Honestly, fat grafting costs i think 30x the price of fillers so i might get fillers first to see how it looks before i commit to fat grafting thanks for the tip

for both upper and and lower eye fat grafting it should cost around $4000 if you go to somewhere moderately cheap but experienced, usually east asia. Fillers as a temporary solution works well for sure (especially in upper eyes since it can last up to 3 years) but long term definitely opt for fat grafting

 

[high_ltn]

botch rate seems to be very low, the issue lies in that most of it gets absorbed within 6 months, meaning you require constant top ups, making fat grafting the superior permanent option. People talk about the migration risk a lot but it seems to be largely overstated, the problem is purely in the temporary nature of fillers in my opinion.

what about infraorbital implants?

 

[Oesteogenesis]

for both upper and and lower eye fat grafting it should cost around $4000 if you go to somewhere moderately cheap but experienced, usually east asia. Fillers as a temporary solution works well for sure (especially in upper eyes since it can last up to 3 years) but long term definitely opt for fat grafting

Yea im quite broke i got like 1.6k$ rn saved up so ill probably get fillers for a couple years until i get a job i just rely on my parents money rn. But im 100% getting these fillers in the next 6-12 months since its a no brainer atp the results are fucking crazy and the amount of customization you can do with your goals, i can straight up tell them i want less sclera show and i want my lower eyelids up and they can do that since filler is so broad.

 

[Oesteogenesis]

what about infraorbital implants?

Expensive as shit and also surgery based which is scary lol even if the complication rate is low, but it mogs filler if not botched

 

[ybuyhgui]

what about infraorbital implants?

obviously way more risky, invasive and expensive, usually also requires fat grafting afterwards to blend the implants anyway (since the uncanny risk is high) so i'd say if you're truly fucked in the infra department with crazy hollowing and a decent amount of money, then go for it, but otherwise wouldn’t recommend.

 

[high_ltn]

obviously way more risky, invasive and expensive, usually also requires fat grafting afterwards to blend the implants anyway (since the uncanny risk is high) so i'd say if you're truly fucked in the infra department with crazy hollowing and a decent amount of money, then go for it, but otherwise wouldn’t recommend.

so undereye fat grafts are better? tbh my under eyes arent bad at all its just that i want more zygomatic bonemass and i have seen implants that are "wrap around zygo/infra implants"

 

[Oesteogenesis]

so undereye fat grafts are better? tbh my under eyes arent bad at all its just that i want more zygomatic bonemass and i have seen implants that are "wrap around zygo/infra implants"
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I mean this is completely different topic, but surgery is always going to have a risk factor wayyy more than fillers and fat grafting, you likely will never get these and if you do good shit but its risky 100%

 

[high_ltn]

you likely will never get these

nearly halfway there im 16 atm

 

[ybuyhgui]

so undereye fat grafts are better?

depends on circumstances, if your undereyes aren’t bad it would be completely retarded to opt for infra implants as a singular surgery honestly

i have seen implants that are "wrap around zygo/infra implants"

is that eppley? If so you'd need a shit tonne of money for that jfl. Personally i'm going for small calcium (semi permanent) fillers in the zygo regions for a subtle natural enhancement as opposed to full on implants, but you do you man, just don’t be too surprised if you end up looking uncanny and completely fucked financially

you likely will never get these

indeed.

 

[high_ltn]

just don’t be too surprised if you end up looking uncanny and completely fucked financially

what would make it uncanny? (not trying to challenge your viewpoint like i genuinely want to know how it makes someone look uncanny

 

[ybuyhgui]

what would make it uncanny? (not trying to challenge your viewpoint like i genuinely want to know how it makes someone look uncanny

visible implant edges, excessive shine over the zygo and infra regions due to implanted material catching light unnaturally, can also cause your fat to sag unnaturally underneath the implants, which is why many people who opt for midface implants pair it with either a full midface lift (ideal but easily another huge price tag added to the cost) or multiple rounds of fat grafting post surgery

 

[Oesteogenesis]

depends on circumstances, if your undereyes aren’t bad it would be completely retarded to opt for infra implants as a singular surgery honestly

is that eppley? If so you'd need a shit tonne of money for that jfl. Personally i'm going for small calcium (semi permanent) fillers in the zygo regions for a subtle natural enhancement as opposed to full on implants, but you do you man, just don’t be too surprised if you end up looking uncanny and completely fucked financially

indeed.

Honestly dont understand why people are so terrified of fillers, most girls you see on your instagram whos hot as fuck have these fillers done, neck lifts, lipo etc.. you dont need implants to to fix your cuck face lmao. if my undereye filler + botox goes well ill get zygo and jaw filler too, minimal though since enchancement is enough not a full change.

 

[ybuyhgui]

what would make it uncanny? (not trying to challenge your viewpoint like i genuinely want to know how it makes someone look uncanny

note that i'm not completely against implants, only that i'd purely recommend them for people with huge recession and very strong finances

 

[ybuyhgui]

Honestly dont understand why people are so terrified of fillers, most girls you see on your instagram whos hot as fuck have these fillers done, neck lifts, lipo etc.. you dont need implants to to fix your cuck face lmao. if my undereye filler + botox goes well ill get zygo and jaw filler too,

Couldn’t agree more.

minimal though since enchancement is enough not a full change.

exactly, this is the type of shit that gives filler a bad rep, retards get overfilled (their fault) and look completely ridiculous, leading to people believing implants to be a purely 'better' solution, despite that not being the case in most circumstances

 

[high_ltn]

Honestly dont understand why people are so terrified of fillers, most girls you see on your instagram whos hot as fuck have these fillers done, neck lifts, lipo etc.. you dont need implants to to fix your cuck face lmao. if my undereye filler + botox goes well ill get zygo and jaw filler too, minimal though since enchancement is enough not a full change.

the only reason i dislike fillers is due to migration

 

[high_ltn]

Couldn’t agree more.

exactly, this is the type of shit that gives filler a bad rep, retards get overfilled (their fault) and look completely ridiculous, leading to people believing implants to be a purely 'better' solution, despite that not being the case in most circumstances

i see thank you for all the info bhai
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[Oesteogenesis]

the only reason i dislike fillers is due to migration

Complete hoax, even if migration happens you can get filler in your face dissolved

 

[Aryan Incel]

Wouldn’t a fat transfer have the same effect with no migration?

 

[Oesteogenesis]

Wouldn’t a fat transfer have the same effect with no migration?

Very expensive compared to filler.

 

[ybuyhgui]

the only reason i dislike fillers is due to migration

usually only a substantial risk is soft tissue areas like the lips and ofc in that case it'll be HA filler, which can indeed be dissolved .

If you opt for dense, almost 'bone like' fillers such as radiesse, and get them, in areas with strong bone support like the chin, jaw, zygos, the migratiojn risk is essentially 0.

 

[high_ltn]

Wouldn’t a fat transfer have the same effect with no migration?

exactly what im thinking

 

[Aryan Incel]

Very expensive compared to filler.

But it would be a permanent better results?

 

[high_ltn]

usually only a substantial risk is soft tissue areas like the lips and ofc in that case it'll be HA filler, which can indeed be dissolved .

If you opt for dense, almost 'bone like' fillers such as radiesse, and get them, in areas with strong bone support like the chin, jaw, zygos, the migratiojn risk is essentially 0.

are there places i can find results??

 

[ybuyhgui]

are there places i can find results??

for filler? pretty much everywhere, they publish videos on almost all platforms, if you find a clinic and go to their page i'm sure there'll be hundreds of results

 

[high_ltn]

for filler? pretty much everywhere, they publish videos on almost all platforms, if you find a clinic and go to their page i'm sure there'll be hundreds of results

alr thank you so much, also sorry for bothering you so much lmfao are chin implants low risk or would you say genio is better?

i need a wider chin + more projection

 

[ybuyhgui]

alr thank you so much, also sorry for bothering you so much lmfao are chin implants low risk or would you say genio is better?

if your recession is severe, genio, otherwise a chin implant, especially since it has more ability to create width as opposed to a genio. The chin is for sure the easiest place to get 100% natural looking implants

sorry for bothering you

no worries gang i'm unemployed

 

[high_ltn]

if your recession is severe, genio, otherwise a chin implant, especially since it has more ability to create width as opposed to a genio. The chin is for sure the easiest place to get 100% natural looking implants

alr thanks will def keep in mind

no worries gang i'm unemployed

same

 

[hej1377]

100% botch rate because of migration

 

[Oesteogenesis]

100% botch rate because of migration

No lmao, filler can be dissolved and also doesnt migrate as much as you think it does.

 

[hej1377]

No lmao, filler can be dissolved and also doesnt migrate as much as you think it does.

Look at mri's they dont disaapear,after refiling its just gonna get worse and worse

Littrally look at every miami whore thats like 30 years old you can very very clearly see the migration, they all look like chipmunks

 

[Foreverbrad]

It’s not suitable to try and create a “saddled” structure. Filler works great for making wide, relatively flat structures that conform to the underlying bone. Trying to make a thin and projecting structure will just spread out (migrate).

This is what I understood from my consults back in my filler-considering days.

 

[bosskingemmy]

tear trough filler is one of the trickier places to inject, which is why you see both great results and horror stories. hyaluronic acid gels can swell and give the 'puffy chipmunk' look if you overfill or place them too superficially, plus if it's close to the surface it can cause a blue tint (tyndall effect). there's also a small but very real risk of vascular occlusion and even blindness if the angular artery is hit, so you want a board‑certified oculoplastic or experienced injector, not some medspa nurse.

that said, the botch rate is low when done conservatively with a cannula and cohesive filler placed deep on the bone. migration is usually overstated – modern fillers don't drift if they're placed correctly, and HA can be dissolved with hyaluronidase if you hate it. the real downside is that HA only lasts 6–12 months under the eye and tends to draw water, so you'll need maintenance and may get morning puffiness. fat grafting or implants can be more permanent but they're surgical and carry their own risks and cost.

and no, "bonesmash" or smashing your zygos with a hammer isn't going to build bone; that's pure cope. if your hollowness is due to sleep, dehydration or being too lean, fix that first. if it's genetic volume loss, a small amount of filler can help, just don't chase instagram before/after pics and always start low.