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The desire to flex
NOTE: From now onwards I’m not gonna hold back with the length of my threads. I added spoilers since users are just gonna go spastic when they see even more text. If you choose to read those too and get upset, you only have yourself to blame. As for the rest, do my bidding and post “DNR” to bump my thread k thanks.
Inb4 someone reads the thread title and thinks “that’s what a KHHV would say!!”. Whatever helps you sleep at night man. I understand showing off your skills, social status and money because sometimes that is a necessary evil to get people to listen to you and increase your life quality. Although it would be of streetshitting dalit thug tier sentience for someone to wave their money bills around to flex their wealth. It’s as comical as a scheming villain in their lair twirling their mustache. The vast majority of people aren't as skilled, knowledgeable, or talented as they hype themselves up to be. This is especially true for the “girlboss” label in general. If they claim to work in a six-figure job, I expect it to incorporate a shit ton of skills and cross-pollination of knowledge that contributes to society in an innovative manner. But in reality, most of it is sitting in front of a computer doing VLOOKUP on Excel spreadsheets.
Yet at the same time, if you're being humble or self-effacing, you're putting yourself at a disadvantage since you cannot reap the same social benefits as those who brag and hype, consequently compromising your life quality. At times, you just have to bare your teeth to have better opportunities in life. Sometimes looksmaxxing isn't even for clout or admiring your own reflection like Narcissus, but just to be treated decently. Most people don't engage in critical thinking, nor could they be arsed to critically evaluate a person's character comprehensively to come up with their own conclusions, instead relying on shorthand signals of status. Our skills, status, and money are our “weapons” we have to use to get through all this bullshit.
But showing off your gf/wife and hoisting her into the air like a trophy is where I draw the line. I’m convinced the people who do this have a chronically undeveloped prefrontal cortex. It's cucked to show off your gf/wife since you're kinda putting one of the biggest sources of your peace of mind, your sanctuary, at risk of judgment from people who have no history in building it. Not to mention, she is likely the reason you showed off so much in the first place. Personally, the type of woman that I'd even pay attention to is one who I put the least effort into (in a monetary sense), yet is still into me. I’d never want to broadcast this “effortless” bond to anyone because god knows how many more years or even decades before I experience this again. My rule of thumb is that if a woman gives off the vibe of an exotic vacation (casual hookups, escorts, etc), sure show them off. But if the woman makes me feel like I’m at home (modest) and never made me feel like I had to work much for their affection, I wish I could hide her away from the world so I could keep her to myself. “B-but that’s common sense!!”. You’d be surprised how it isn’t because many users here have this jeet arranged marriage/hoodlum mindset. “B-but I wanna make other men envious of me!!”. They don’t realize they could get the same result and put far less at risk by paying for an escort and getting her to pretend to be your gf/wife for the day. Money fixes most of your problems right?
I’m convinced that people who like to show off their gf/wives are the same ones who participate in "fap parties" where a group of men watch porn together and dirty talk with each other. I also find it kinda gay, if not bi at best, since you’re somewhat contributing to other men's pleasure. Cuckeddit for example, is one of the most contradictory communities in existence. They say the obsession with female virginity is “outdated” and “incel”. Yet some of them would complain about being “cucked” to have community sex. Deep down, they hate sharing and making a sacred act public as much as “incels” do. But then again, some people just have a more communal view towards sexuality and are completely fine with everyone’s penises and vaginas having indirectly touched each other at one point in their social circle (basically like six degrees of separation). “B-but it’s all about being proud and showing love to your women!!”. Boiling frogs don’t notice the heat until it’s too late. The less they know, the less they can ruin.
Even if you went through 100 reincarnations where you are born into at least a middle-class upbringing, achieving financial security shouldn’t be too much of a problem for most of them. Systems can be gamed, skills can be learned. However, you might not even find 1 reincarnation where you’ll be able to find true peace of mind through a woman. You might not even find 1 reincarnation where you’re able to leave a legacy worth remembering that distinguishes you from the billion others who lived before you and after. If you do miraculously manage to find a woman who gives you such peace of mind, firstly, I don’t know why you would announce it to everyone on an incel site JFL. “Water. Everyone and our dogs already know this”. IMO if at least one person disagrees with the general idea, it’s not water enough.
TL;DR: Flaunting skills and wealth are a necessary evil for social leverage. Yet showing off a woman you’re emotionally invested in, especially one that brings true peace, I’d argue, is reckless and potentially cucked. There’s a dichotomy to be made between casual performative relationships (ones that resemble an “exotic vacation”) that can be flexed without negative consequences down the line, and ones that should be protected from judgment or envy (ones that resemble a “home”). Publicly parading a long-term romantic partner risks exposing a rare sanctuary to judgment of people who were not part of the history in building it. Even if you went through 100 reincarnations, the opportunities for success in a materialistic sense remain plentiful. The same cannot be said for a woman who likes you and gives you peace of mind without you having to fight for it.
Hip-hop and the “baddie” label
Dictators drowning in pussy
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NOTE: From now onwards I’m not gonna hold back with the length of my threads. I added spoilers since users are just gonna go spastic when they see even more text. If you choose to read those too and get upset, you only have yourself to blame. As for the rest, do my bidding and post “DNR” to bump my thread k thanks.
Inb4 someone reads the thread title and thinks “that’s what a KHHV would say!!”. Whatever helps you sleep at night man. I understand showing off your skills, social status and money because sometimes that is a necessary evil to get people to listen to you and increase your life quality. Although it would be of streetshitting dalit thug tier sentience for someone to wave their money bills around to flex their wealth. It’s as comical as a scheming villain in their lair twirling their mustache. The vast majority of people aren't as skilled, knowledgeable, or talented as they hype themselves up to be. This is especially true for the “girlboss” label in general. If they claim to work in a six-figure job, I expect it to incorporate a shit ton of skills and cross-pollination of knowledge that contributes to society in an innovative manner. But in reality, most of it is sitting in front of a computer doing VLOOKUP on Excel spreadsheets.
Yet at the same time, if you're being humble or self-effacing, you're putting yourself at a disadvantage since you cannot reap the same social benefits as those who brag and hype, consequently compromising your life quality. At times, you just have to bare your teeth to have better opportunities in life. Sometimes looksmaxxing isn't even for clout or admiring your own reflection like Narcissus, but just to be treated decently. Most people don't engage in critical thinking, nor could they be arsed to critically evaluate a person's character comprehensively to come up with their own conclusions, instead relying on shorthand signals of status. Our skills, status, and money are our “weapons” we have to use to get through all this bullshit.
But showing off your gf/wife and hoisting her into the air like a trophy is where I draw the line. I’m convinced the people who do this have a chronically undeveloped prefrontal cortex. It's cucked to show off your gf/wife since you're kinda putting one of the biggest sources of your peace of mind, your sanctuary, at risk of judgment from people who have no history in building it. Not to mention, she is likely the reason you showed off so much in the first place. Personally, the type of woman that I'd even pay attention to is one who I put the least effort into (in a monetary sense), yet is still into me. I’d never want to broadcast this “effortless” bond to anyone because god knows how many more years or even decades before I experience this again. My rule of thumb is that if a woman gives off the vibe of an exotic vacation (casual hookups, escorts, etc), sure show them off. But if the woman makes me feel like I’m at home (modest) and never made me feel like I had to work much for their affection, I wish I could hide her away from the world so I could keep her to myself. “B-but that’s common sense!!”. You’d be surprised how it isn’t because many users here have this jeet arranged marriage/hoodlum mindset. “B-but I wanna make other men envious of me!!”. They don’t realize they could get the same result and put far less at risk by paying for an escort and getting her to pretend to be your gf/wife for the day. Money fixes most of your problems right?
I’m convinced that people who like to show off their gf/wives are the same ones who participate in "fap parties" where a group of men watch porn together and dirty talk with each other. I also find it kinda gay, if not bi at best, since you’re somewhat contributing to other men's pleasure. Cuckeddit for example, is one of the most contradictory communities in existence. They say the obsession with female virginity is “outdated” and “incel”. Yet some of them would complain about being “cucked” to have community sex. Deep down, they hate sharing and making a sacred act public as much as “incels” do. But then again, some people just have a more communal view towards sexuality and are completely fine with everyone’s penises and vaginas having indirectly touched each other at one point in their social circle (basically like six degrees of separation). “B-but it’s all about being proud and showing love to your women!!”. Boiling frogs don’t notice the heat until it’s too late. The less they know, the less they can ruin.
Even if you went through 100 reincarnations where you are born into at least a middle-class upbringing, achieving financial security shouldn’t be too much of a problem for most of them. Systems can be gamed, skills can be learned. However, you might not even find 1 reincarnation where you’ll be able to find true peace of mind through a woman. You might not even find 1 reincarnation where you’re able to leave a legacy worth remembering that distinguishes you from the billion others who lived before you and after. If you do miraculously manage to find a woman who gives you such peace of mind, firstly, I don’t know why you would announce it to everyone on an incel site JFL. “Water. Everyone and our dogs already know this”. IMO if at least one person disagrees with the general idea, it’s not water enough.
TL;DR: Flaunting skills and wealth are a necessary evil for social leverage. Yet showing off a woman you’re emotionally invested in, especially one that brings true peace, I’d argue, is reckless and potentially cucked. There’s a dichotomy to be made between casual performative relationships (ones that resemble an “exotic vacation”) that can be flexed without negative consequences down the line, and ones that should be protected from judgment or envy (ones that resemble a “home”). Publicly parading a long-term romantic partner risks exposing a rare sanctuary to judgment of people who were not part of the history in building it. Even if you went through 100 reincarnations, the opportunities for success in a materialistic sense remain plentiful. The same cannot be said for a woman who likes you and gives you peace of mind without you having to fight for it.
Hip-hop and the “baddie” label
Some argue for showing off their gf/wife like hip-hop artists do with the argument that it taps into primal human drives like dominance, survival, and ambition. But the problem is that this argument doesn’t seem to serve any firmly held ideals or goals. It's like ripping a page out of a textbook to answer a question and calling it a day. I mean sure, if they genuinely like being in constant chaos and poaching each other's women, then who am I to say they're "wrong"? That’s their prerogative. However, the reality is that most users here don't know what they truly want and are merely echoing what others desire. Besides, it's a game they're not going to win as an average citizen, whereas those hip-hop artists are millionaires and statusmaxxed. I don't envy them either, since the women they "own" chase whatever gives them the thrill and hop from one dick to another like it's nothing. That doesn't align with my highest ideals, and it would serve no purpose for me to obsess and be jealous over that. Those women might as well not count as women to me. Unfortunately, it seems like most of them are like this nowadays regardless.
I see music as a shorthand form of social commentary and philosophy. Hip-hop is the genre that tops the charts nowadays, meaning the worldview of these so-called “artists” is what is most commonly disseminated to the masses. “You just haven’t put in the effort to find deep and profound hip-hop artists!!”. That’s exactly the problem. If one has to put in effort to find something that actually resonates with the soul, who’s to say that the masses aren’t absorbing soulless slop that reinforces them to be hyperimpulsive low-sentient retards? I’m not gonna debate about the artistic merit of hip-hop, but it’s a logical assumption that out of all music genres, this is one of the main culprits of solidifying the thuglike behavior you see in your public schools.
What dealing with thug kids and their insentience feels like:
I especially don't want other guys to be calling my gf/wife a "baddie" as I associate such a label with shaniquas. I don’t know how some men don’t find it insulting to have their woman be lumped with shaniquas and sheboons (unless you’re into that shit). One is supposed to be graceful and classy (LTR), and the other is fake (think fake eyelashes, nails, excessive makeup, etc), rude and foul-mouthed. This is not just a problem with semantics. It’s like slapping a cheap $2 sticker on the Mona Lisa in the Louvre.
“You must be a muzzy that wants your woman locked up at all times!!”. People often like to accuse you of being religious or cult-like when you try to set boundaries or have an understanding of cause and effect. No wonder the West feels borderline unlivable for any remotely sentient individual when normies think that logic, common sense and accountability only apply when you have to pray five times a day. If you’re so proud of your gf/wife, why not let her leave you for a whole year to work on a cruise ship and share bunk beds with a bunch of single men? She’ll take pride in you being her husband and flex you to them because you’re just that irreplaceable right? “Those guys on the cruise ship are going to be so envious that I bagged a baddie while I’m not even there with her!!”. I think always feeling the need to justify to others what you like and gives you peace of mind is one of the biggest energy wasters in life. Although not all celebs do this, some are prudent enough to keep their close ones away from the spotlight. It’s called “private life” for a reason.
TL;DR: Some argue that flaunting romantic partners like hip-hop stars is a primal drive and therefore rational. But this is merely ripping a page out of the textbook to answer a question and calling it a day. People generally don't know what they truly want and are merely echoing what others desire. It’s a game they're not going to win as an average citizen, whereas those hip-hop artists are millionaires and statusmaxxed. The term “baddie” is a performative label that lumps your woman with shaniquas and sheboons, commodifying her and reducing her to something communal. It’s like slapping a cheap $2 sticker on the Mona Lisa. This is not about exerting control but prioritizing logic and boundaries over performative validation.
I see music as a shorthand form of social commentary and philosophy. Hip-hop is the genre that tops the charts nowadays, meaning the worldview of these so-called “artists” is what is most commonly disseminated to the masses. “You just haven’t put in the effort to find deep and profound hip-hop artists!!”. That’s exactly the problem. If one has to put in effort to find something that actually resonates with the soul, who’s to say that the masses aren’t absorbing soulless slop that reinforces them to be hyperimpulsive low-sentient retards? I’m not gonna debate about the artistic merit of hip-hop, but it’s a logical assumption that out of all music genres, this is one of the main culprits of solidifying the thuglike behavior you see in your public schools.
What dealing with thug kids and their insentience feels like:
I especially don't want other guys to be calling my gf/wife a "baddie" as I associate such a label with shaniquas. I don’t know how some men don’t find it insulting to have their woman be lumped with shaniquas and sheboons (unless you’re into that shit). One is supposed to be graceful and classy (LTR), and the other is fake (think fake eyelashes, nails, excessive makeup, etc), rude and foul-mouthed. This is not just a problem with semantics. It’s like slapping a cheap $2 sticker on the Mona Lisa in the Louvre.
“You must be a muzzy that wants your woman locked up at all times!!”. People often like to accuse you of being religious or cult-like when you try to set boundaries or have an understanding of cause and effect. No wonder the West feels borderline unlivable for any remotely sentient individual when normies think that logic, common sense and accountability only apply when you have to pray five times a day. If you’re so proud of your gf/wife, why not let her leave you for a whole year to work on a cruise ship and share bunk beds with a bunch of single men? She’ll take pride in you being her husband and flex you to them because you’re just that irreplaceable right? “Those guys on the cruise ship are going to be so envious that I bagged a baddie while I’m not even there with her!!”. I think always feeling the need to justify to others what you like and gives you peace of mind is one of the biggest energy wasters in life. Although not all celebs do this, some are prudent enough to keep their close ones away from the spotlight. It’s called “private life” for a reason.
TL;DR: Some argue that flaunting romantic partners like hip-hop stars is a primal drive and therefore rational. But this is merely ripping a page out of the textbook to answer a question and calling it a day. People generally don't know what they truly want and are merely echoing what others desire. It’s a game they're not going to win as an average citizen, whereas those hip-hop artists are millionaires and statusmaxxed. The term “baddie” is a performative label that lumps your woman with shaniquas and sheboons, commodifying her and reducing her to something communal. It’s like slapping a cheap $2 sticker on the Mona Lisa. This is not about exerting control but prioritizing logic and boundaries over performative validation.
Dictators drowning in pussy
If you’re still so hellbent on living vicariously through hip-hop artists, I could do the same through Mao Zedong. “B-but what does bing chilling zhong xina man have anything to do with this? That’s soooo schizo!!! Besides he was fat ugly and balding anyways!! What pussy would he have gotten?!!”. Do I really need to explain this? Him being the Chairman of the CCP and the founder of the People’s Republic of China is like being Voldemort in terms of status and power. They’re both beyond looks and money at that point, the hamster wheel of a game played by average citizens to stay afloat.
There's an account of Mao's sexual habits where he “cleans” himself by having sex with women, claiming “I wash myself inside the bodies of my women”, since he never actually cleans his own dick. He does not brush his teeth either because “A tiger never brushes his teeth”. Apparently, when Mao got older, he adhered to Taoist sexual practices as a way to extend his life, claiming the waters of “yin” (feminine essence or in this instance pussy juice) were needed to supplement his own declining “yang” (male essence). Not surprisingly, young virgins were said to have the most potent “yin”, hence Mao desired to have a virgin girl every night. Many of those women were daughters of poor peasants who believed sleeping with the chairman was “the greatest experience of their life”. He even infected some of them with STDs. But the women saw it as a “badge of honor” and a testimony to their sexual contact with the chairman. Fucking brutal honestly. How did their future husbands even cope? I suppose they saw it as an honor to have Mao’s sloppy seconds.
Reminiscent of how Chico at one point was allegedly gaymaxxing (with some asian twink on his streams) after having an abundance of pussy, Mao drowned in so much pussy he needed variety by fondling his guards and having them massage his own dick. Once you drown in so much pussy, you might even have the urge to start trying men.
While Mao wasn’t alone in his proclivity for virgin women, his interactions with them were far more explicitly documented and comprehensive than any other figure in recent history. Kinda weird and twisted to feel this way, but I almost feel envious that they got to experience all of that. They set my standards for sexual intimacy all the way past Pluto, and that anything less isn't even considered "sex" for me anymore. My reaction to these types of stories is kinda like the historical account of Julius Caesar weeping upon learning of Alexander the Great’s accomplishments.
I can already predict people calling me a performative edgelord over this. So what’s the point of these extreme comparisons?: I’m not Mao Zedong, and you’re neither the hip-hop artists you glorify. As I said earlier, people in general tend to live vicariously to the point of completely ignoring the reality of their own life circumstances. Ideally, historical accounts should be used as references to how we should be appreciative of what we already have (or will have), and to live the most sustainable life we can within our own circumstances. Inb4 “That’s what a faggot would say!! I will eventually have Elon Musk fuck you money. I will have endless JB harems. I will mog you to jupiter and back doomer incel!!” Cool story bro. Whatever helps you sleep at night. “Well you won’t be saying all of this if you were a dictator and had the chance to drown in JB virgin pussy non-stop!!”. That’s probably true. There's a human tendency to act holier-than-thou in reaction to historical events or behaviors of somebody who is exceptionally far removed from most people's daily lives and worldview. Cuckedditors tend to have a natural talent for this. I’d go as far as labelling them as “prodigies” at this. If they were given the chance to be in a dictator’s position, most of them wouldn’t behave so differently.
History can inspire us to achieve exceptional things, and nothing is really stopping us from trying to emulate these figures. Yet it should also remind us where we objectively stand every step of the way and act accordingly. Anyone with the slightest self-respect after reading this should thank the stars that any women they care about weren’t some sex doll to some dictator and had their fluids used to “clean” them. In any alternative timeline, that could’ve been the case. It’s not being possessive or insecure, it’s just a rational response as a man who gives the slightest shit about anything. “B-but ching chong dictator didn’t drown in aryan pussy so it doesn’t count!! My aryan baddies are still safe!!!”. Cope it’s just that stories involving Aryan women weren’t as explicitly documented. The same patterns emerge regardless of ethnicity. The first time I read about Mao, I basically had an existential crisis, making it seem like pursuing sex with virgin women in the modern world was a futile endeavor that could never match what dictators had. So is it basically over? Personally, reading their stories made me have three main revelations:
1) LTR with a virgin girl that develops organically
I didn't hold this view during the time I made that JBF (Just Be First) thread, but the context in which you find a virgin girl is quite important too. Come to think of it, my virgin oneitis back then revealed their virginity status in a group where there were other guys. In retrospect, I thought that she might've been seeking attention by revealing her virginity status, perhaps wanting guys to fight over her (or just being naive). It's like those "virgin" girls that go on Youtube shows like "Guess who's the virgin?". It makes me question their motives, as there's already the first layer of exclusivity lost (knowledge of her sexual experience being made public). If it's from a one-night stand from a club, I would think, "What the fuck are you even doing here"? She already has the soul of a whore, so I'm not gonna commit to that. But I'm gonna enjoy my "kill" nonetheless, because if I refused her, she'd fall into the hands of another guy at the club anyway, and me being a "gentleman" would've been for nothing.
A virgin woman advertising herself as one upfront makes the whole interaction feel far more scripted and kills the spontaneity and thrill of gradually discovering it yourself. If you knew that every woman you get is a virgin, that would kill the value of it. “When everyone’s super, no one will be”. Sure, on paper, it might sound better to know a woman’s virginity upfront. But in practice, confronting them over their past risks pressuring them to lie to fit your standards and trap you into commitment.
The problem with Mao Zedong being able to acquire virgin women as easily as ordering pizza is that it’s like having your opponent deliberately lose to you in a competition just to feed your ego. The outcome was already predetermined a thousand times over. The thrill of winning comes from the possibility of defeat. The value of life comes from the existence of death. Hence, it makes sense that the thrill of being able to find a virgin woman comes from the uncertainty of her being a virgin. It’s the fog of war that contributes to the buildup. "Love is war” makes more sense when it's put that way. “That’s such gay cope man you’ve gone soft!! Also dream on. At best you'll only get a 40 yr old landwhale with 3 kids. Deal with it incel!!!”.
2) Minimalism as the answer to excess
The irony is that the more the average guy tries to emulate someone like Mao and set that as their baseline for happiness (whether it would be through dating apps or casual hookups), the more suffering they potentially experience when they fail to reach that level of indulgence. This brings in the importance of decluttering your life by cutting out things that drain your energy and leave you without the rewards you seek. Hence, it is why I think minimalism is an answer to excessive indulgence. “Gigacope that’s what someone with a shitty life would say”. Well yeah? How’s imitating the lifestyle of dictators going for you so far? The point is to seek out uncharted territory that even dictators wouldn’t give the time of the day for or find value in. I never understood the need to justify to others why something turns me on. If they consider what I enjoy doing a “waste of time”, then I think I’ve found my own unique sanctuary. Hence why if I ever have a virgin woman whom I managed to win the heart of with minimal effort, I’d embrace her physical flaws and not obsess over “muh stacy hunter eyes”. The sight of her in a plain t-shirt, no makeup, barefeet on the couch, eating from a bag of chips and crumbs falling out of her mouth on a lazy Sunday afternoon is already paradise to me. “Cope she would’ve gotten ran through by the time you got to her. My virgin stacy oneitis Gio Scotti is still pure for me. No other guy feels the way I do for her”. Yeah sure thing pal.
3) The concept of the hedonic treadmill
I won’t be surprised if people say I’m coping here too, but it’s understandable. Due to the concept of the hedonic treadmill, I’d argue that having an abundance of virgin women only kills the value and thrill of it. Most humans are eventually going to adapt to it and return to a baseline, no matter how pleasurable. Eventually, our dopamine receptors will just be desensitized to having these things with so little effort. Obviously, it’s still infinitely better than living in the slums of Mumbai as a homeless truecel from life to death. I’m not denying that. Coming back to the accounts of Mao Zedong drowning in JB pussy, we imagine that being in his POV would bring indescribable pleasure. Sure, the pleasure would be incredible. Yet it likely wouldn’t be as great as we imagined since his dopamine receptors are likely far more desensitized than the average citizen. The problem is we can only project our average citizen POV onto him and imagine the pleasure from our very own perception, not his. So in a way, we envy more the resources he has at his disposal rather than his subjective perception. As far as subjective perception goes, the concept of the hedonic treadmill is perhaps one of the greatest equalizers in life, just like the existence of death is. I know some people will clutch their pearls and accuse me of deliberately trying to sound edgy by bringing up death. But reality itself is edgy, and I’m merely holding up a mirror to it. “Only people who have a shitty life feel the need to constantly bring up death!!”. I mean, an insentient dait thug that rapes and kills and has a blast doing so likely never dwells on his own mortality. Hence, he “mogs” me in life quality. Yet that would imply ignorance is a moral high ground. But if that’s the kind of world you want to live in, be my guest.
TL;DR: While you might like to live vicariously through hip-hop artists, I could do the same through someone like Mao Zedong. Mao, as a powerful dictator, engaged in documented practices of sleeping with young virgin women to “cleanse” himself and prolong life. These women were often from poor backgrounds, hence they viewed it as an honor. The point of this comparison is that you are likely not a statusmaxxed hip-hop star, and I am neither Mao Zedong. We cannot replicate what they have as average citizens. Hence, it is cucked to try and mimic their lifestyles with what we have now.
As an average citizen, this made me have three revelations:
1) Valuing organic, private relationships with virgin women, where uncertainty creates thrill as opposed to Mao’s predetermined conquests.
2) Embracing minimalism to find unique fulfilment and rejecting superficial external standards that do not take your best interests into account.
3) Recognizing the existence of the hedonic treadmill, where even extreme indulgence loses value due to desensitization.
Ultimately, historical figures like Mao should inspire gratitude, making the most out of your personal circumstances and encourage sustainable living, not envy or imitation.
There's an account of Mao's sexual habits where he “cleans” himself by having sex with women, claiming “I wash myself inside the bodies of my women”, since he never actually cleans his own dick. He does not brush his teeth either because “A tiger never brushes his teeth”. Apparently, when Mao got older, he adhered to Taoist sexual practices as a way to extend his life, claiming the waters of “yin” (feminine essence or in this instance pussy juice) were needed to supplement his own declining “yang” (male essence). Not surprisingly, young virgins were said to have the most potent “yin”, hence Mao desired to have a virgin girl every night. Many of those women were daughters of poor peasants who believed sleeping with the chairman was “the greatest experience of their life”. He even infected some of them with STDs. But the women saw it as a “badge of honor” and a testimony to their sexual contact with the chairman. Fucking brutal honestly. How did their future husbands even cope? I suppose they saw it as an honor to have Mao’s sloppy seconds.
Reminiscent of how Chico at one point was allegedly gaymaxxing (with some asian twink on his streams) after having an abundance of pussy, Mao drowned in so much pussy he needed variety by fondling his guards and having them massage his own dick. Once you drown in so much pussy, you might even have the urge to start trying men.
While Mao wasn’t alone in his proclivity for virgin women, his interactions with them were far more explicitly documented and comprehensive than any other figure in recent history. Kinda weird and twisted to feel this way, but I almost feel envious that they got to experience all of that. They set my standards for sexual intimacy all the way past Pluto, and that anything less isn't even considered "sex" for me anymore. My reaction to these types of stories is kinda like the historical account of Julius Caesar weeping upon learning of Alexander the Great’s accomplishments.
I can already predict people calling me a performative edgelord over this. So what’s the point of these extreme comparisons?: I’m not Mao Zedong, and you’re neither the hip-hop artists you glorify. As I said earlier, people in general tend to live vicariously to the point of completely ignoring the reality of their own life circumstances. Ideally, historical accounts should be used as references to how we should be appreciative of what we already have (or will have), and to live the most sustainable life we can within our own circumstances. Inb4 “That’s what a faggot would say!! I will eventually have Elon Musk fuck you money. I will have endless JB harems. I will mog you to jupiter and back doomer incel!!” Cool story bro. Whatever helps you sleep at night. “Well you won’t be saying all of this if you were a dictator and had the chance to drown in JB virgin pussy non-stop!!”. That’s probably true. There's a human tendency to act holier-than-thou in reaction to historical events or behaviors of somebody who is exceptionally far removed from most people's daily lives and worldview. Cuckedditors tend to have a natural talent for this. I’d go as far as labelling them as “prodigies” at this. If they were given the chance to be in a dictator’s position, most of them wouldn’t behave so differently.
History can inspire us to achieve exceptional things, and nothing is really stopping us from trying to emulate these figures. Yet it should also remind us where we objectively stand every step of the way and act accordingly. Anyone with the slightest self-respect after reading this should thank the stars that any women they care about weren’t some sex doll to some dictator and had their fluids used to “clean” them. In any alternative timeline, that could’ve been the case. It’s not being possessive or insecure, it’s just a rational response as a man who gives the slightest shit about anything. “B-but ching chong dictator didn’t drown in aryan pussy so it doesn’t count!! My aryan baddies are still safe!!!”. Cope it’s just that stories involving Aryan women weren’t as explicitly documented. The same patterns emerge regardless of ethnicity. The first time I read about Mao, I basically had an existential crisis, making it seem like pursuing sex with virgin women in the modern world was a futile endeavor that could never match what dictators had. So is it basically over? Personally, reading their stories made me have three main revelations:
1) LTR with a virgin girl that develops organically
I didn't hold this view during the time I made that JBF (Just Be First) thread, but the context in which you find a virgin girl is quite important too. Come to think of it, my virgin oneitis back then revealed their virginity status in a group where there were other guys. In retrospect, I thought that she might've been seeking attention by revealing her virginity status, perhaps wanting guys to fight over her (or just being naive). It's like those "virgin" girls that go on Youtube shows like "Guess who's the virgin?". It makes me question their motives, as there's already the first layer of exclusivity lost (knowledge of her sexual experience being made public). If it's from a one-night stand from a club, I would think, "What the fuck are you even doing here"? She already has the soul of a whore, so I'm not gonna commit to that. But I'm gonna enjoy my "kill" nonetheless, because if I refused her, she'd fall into the hands of another guy at the club anyway, and me being a "gentleman" would've been for nothing.
A virgin woman advertising herself as one upfront makes the whole interaction feel far more scripted and kills the spontaneity and thrill of gradually discovering it yourself. If you knew that every woman you get is a virgin, that would kill the value of it. “When everyone’s super, no one will be”. Sure, on paper, it might sound better to know a woman’s virginity upfront. But in practice, confronting them over their past risks pressuring them to lie to fit your standards and trap you into commitment.
The problem with Mao Zedong being able to acquire virgin women as easily as ordering pizza is that it’s like having your opponent deliberately lose to you in a competition just to feed your ego. The outcome was already predetermined a thousand times over. The thrill of winning comes from the possibility of defeat. The value of life comes from the existence of death. Hence, it makes sense that the thrill of being able to find a virgin woman comes from the uncertainty of her being a virgin. It’s the fog of war that contributes to the buildup. "Love is war” makes more sense when it's put that way. “That’s such gay cope man you’ve gone soft!! Also dream on. At best you'll only get a 40 yr old landwhale with 3 kids. Deal with it incel!!!”.
2) Minimalism as the answer to excess
The irony is that the more the average guy tries to emulate someone like Mao and set that as their baseline for happiness (whether it would be through dating apps or casual hookups), the more suffering they potentially experience when they fail to reach that level of indulgence. This brings in the importance of decluttering your life by cutting out things that drain your energy and leave you without the rewards you seek. Hence, it is why I think minimalism is an answer to excessive indulgence. “Gigacope that’s what someone with a shitty life would say”. Well yeah? How’s imitating the lifestyle of dictators going for you so far? The point is to seek out uncharted territory that even dictators wouldn’t give the time of the day for or find value in. I never understood the need to justify to others why something turns me on. If they consider what I enjoy doing a “waste of time”, then I think I’ve found my own unique sanctuary. Hence why if I ever have a virgin woman whom I managed to win the heart of with minimal effort, I’d embrace her physical flaws and not obsess over “muh stacy hunter eyes”. The sight of her in a plain t-shirt, no makeup, barefeet on the couch, eating from a bag of chips and crumbs falling out of her mouth on a lazy Sunday afternoon is already paradise to me. “Cope she would’ve gotten ran through by the time you got to her. My virgin stacy oneitis Gio Scotti is still pure for me. No other guy feels the way I do for her”. Yeah sure thing pal.
3) The concept of the hedonic treadmill
I won’t be surprised if people say I’m coping here too, but it’s understandable. Due to the concept of the hedonic treadmill, I’d argue that having an abundance of virgin women only kills the value and thrill of it. Most humans are eventually going to adapt to it and return to a baseline, no matter how pleasurable. Eventually, our dopamine receptors will just be desensitized to having these things with so little effort. Obviously, it’s still infinitely better than living in the slums of Mumbai as a homeless truecel from life to death. I’m not denying that. Coming back to the accounts of Mao Zedong drowning in JB pussy, we imagine that being in his POV would bring indescribable pleasure. Sure, the pleasure would be incredible. Yet it likely wouldn’t be as great as we imagined since his dopamine receptors are likely far more desensitized than the average citizen. The problem is we can only project our average citizen POV onto him and imagine the pleasure from our very own perception, not his. So in a way, we envy more the resources he has at his disposal rather than his subjective perception. As far as subjective perception goes, the concept of the hedonic treadmill is perhaps one of the greatest equalizers in life, just like the existence of death is. I know some people will clutch their pearls and accuse me of deliberately trying to sound edgy by bringing up death. But reality itself is edgy, and I’m merely holding up a mirror to it. “Only people who have a shitty life feel the need to constantly bring up death!!”. I mean, an insentient dait thug that rapes and kills and has a blast doing so likely never dwells on his own mortality. Hence, he “mogs” me in life quality. Yet that would imply ignorance is a moral high ground. But if that’s the kind of world you want to live in, be my guest.
TL;DR: While you might like to live vicariously through hip-hop artists, I could do the same through someone like Mao Zedong. Mao, as a powerful dictator, engaged in documented practices of sleeping with young virgin women to “cleanse” himself and prolong life. These women were often from poor backgrounds, hence they viewed it as an honor. The point of this comparison is that you are likely not a statusmaxxed hip-hop star, and I am neither Mao Zedong. We cannot replicate what they have as average citizens. Hence, it is cucked to try and mimic their lifestyles with what we have now.
As an average citizen, this made me have three revelations:
1) Valuing organic, private relationships with virgin women, where uncertainty creates thrill as opposed to Mao’s predetermined conquests.
2) Embracing minimalism to find unique fulfilment and rejecting superficial external standards that do not take your best interests into account.
3) Recognizing the existence of the hedonic treadmill, where even extreme indulgence loses value due to desensitization.
Ultimately, historical figures like Mao should inspire gratitude, making the most out of your personal circumstances and encourage sustainable living, not envy or imitation.
TL;DR:
Flaunting skills or wealth can be a strategic necessity for social leverage. But parading a romantic partner, especially one who brings true peace, is reckless and potentially self-defeating. Very few can make the distinction between casual, performative relationships, which I likened to “exotic vacations” (safe to flex), and “home-like” bonds that should be shielded from external judgment that had no history in building them. Exposing a long-term partner risks cheapening a sacred sanctuary, something that I’d argue is far more exclusive than material success, even across 100 reincarnations.
There’s a primal urge to mimic hip-hop’s “baddie” culture, which commodifies women, reducing even the most pious and virginal women to shallow labels. This is something I’d compare to putting a $2 sticker on a priceless painting. It reflects a broader societal tendency to echo others’ desires out of peer pressure than from actual self-reflection.
When you pit yourself up against the extremities of human power, it highlights the futility of chasing status-driven excess as average citizens. Ultimately, historical figures and their extreme practices should inspire gratitude, making the most out of your personal circumstances and encourage sustainable living, not envy or imitation.
There’s a primal urge to mimic hip-hop’s “baddie” culture, which commodifies women, reducing even the most pious and virginal women to shallow labels. This is something I’d compare to putting a $2 sticker on a priceless painting. It reflects a broader societal tendency to echo others’ desires out of peer pressure than from actual self-reflection.
When you pit yourself up against the extremities of human power, it highlights the futility of chasing status-driven excess as average citizens. Ultimately, historical figures and their extreme practices should inspire gratitude, making the most out of your personal circumstances and encourage sustainable living, not envy or imitation.
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