Ur "White" Ancient Greeks, Sir

[JewishNationalist]

have u ever read the writings of Herodotus or are u talking out of your hole? he greatly admired the Persians

oh sweet little boy
how little you know
takes one minute to google what i said here, they despised persians more.

 

[Latinolooksmaxxer]

 

[Bully]

None of them have long hair that stands up. The guys u posted have gelled short hair which will obviously stand up retard. Also the original statues were painted brown, just because they lost their paint doesnt mean they look like you niggas. He looked like the average Greek of his time and today (dark hair, tan skin, dark eyes)

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The statue was made after him while what you posted is just fan art from Pompei

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All of them other than the euroafricanid which is also an ethnic pheno have the same lips as me. Meanwhile all west Asian, south asian, African phenotypes have full lips, and I literally inherit my lips for my Norwegian side.

Lips dont matter anyways, it’s all about bones which I do have (rated hhtn ) hell even some white chads like Matt bomer have shit lips

Don't care about your rating but from what I saw you are far from htn

Also I don’t “hate” white people or any other race, i only dislike the race copers from all races who try to cope with their subhuman face by talking abt “muh ancestors did this thing so im better than you”

https://looksmax.org/search/18663829/?q=crackers&c[users]=Ghoulish&o=relevance

 

[diarrhetic]

This is lies

Persians were never considered effeminate and being gay was seen as masculine in Greece. Youre referring to this one Roman guy I forgot his name who said Persians were effeminate for propaganda purposes.

Persians were portrayed as handsome and fearsome by the Greeks, heres some copy paste quotes

“Ancient Greek writers, such as Xenophon in his biographical work Cyropaedia, often praised Persian royalty for being remarkably handsome, well-built, and majestic in appearance”

“One account notes that the Persians were considered "a remarkably handsome people" with features described as "entirely of the... good features and expressive countenances"

Partialy wrong even though they were admired by some but by most they were considered barbarians and in many plays in ancient athens they were depicted as soft, overly emotional and materialistic

 

[LXR]

Holy shit Greeks look like mountain dwelling pygmy Indians that I saw when I was travelling through the Himalayas

 

[JewishNationalist]

This is lies

Persians were never considered effeminate and being gay was seen as masculine in Greece. Youre referring to this one Roman guy I forgot his name who said Persians were effeminate for propaganda purposes.

Persians were portrayed as handsome and fearsome by the Greeks, heres some copy paste quotes

“Ancient Greek writers, such as Xenophon in his biographical work Cyropaedia, often praised Persian royalty for being remarkably handsome, well-built, and majestic in appearance”

“One account notes that the Persians were considered "a remarkably handsome people" with features described as "entirely of the... good features and expressive countenances"

“Come, tell me why it is that the Celts and the Germans are fierce, while the Hellenes and Romans are, generally speaking, inclined to political life and humane, though at the same time unyielding and warlike? Why the Egyptians are more intelligent and more given to crafts, and the Syrians unwarlike and effeminate, but at the same time intelligent, hot-tempered, vain and quick to learn? […] As for men’s laws, it is evident that men have established them to correspond with their own natural dispositions; that is to say, constitutional and humane laws were established by those in whom a humane disposition had been fostered above all else, savage and inhuman laws by those in whom there lurked and was inherent the contrary disposition.”
— Against The Galileans, Julian (361 to 363 AD)

The contrast in how Greco-Romans viewed Europeans and non-Europeans is exemplified in ‘Of the Familiarities between Countries and the Triplicities and Stars,’ authored in the 2nd Century AD by the Roman-born Greek polymath Claudius Ptolemy. He divides the world into four quarters — Europe (including Northern Europe), North Asia (Scythia), South Asia (including Middle East), and Libya (Africa) — and attributes the racial and ethnic characteristics of their inhabitants to geography and astrology. Ptolemy spends a lengthy amount of time singing endless praises for every European ethnic group, discussing their individual quirks without disparaging a single one (“independent, liberty-loving, industrious, warlike, cleanly, magnanimous, fierce, headstrong, masterful, benevolent, cooperative” etc.).

He then turns his attention to Asia, about which he has almost nothing positive to say at all. South Asians (India, Ariana, Parthia, Media, Persia, Babylonia, Mesopotamia, etc.) are accused of being fond of luxuries and adornment, having sex in public, being incestuous with their own mothers, and generally “effeminate in dress, in adornment, and in all habits relating to the body.” India and Ariana are specifically called “ugly, unclean, and bestial.” He states that the Western Middle Easterners (Syria, Judaea, Phoenicia, Chaldaea, Arabia, etc.) are “more gifted in trade and exchange […] more unscrupulous, despicable cowards, treacherous, servile, and in general fickle.” Syrians and Judaeans are specifically accused of being “bold, godless, and scheming.”

He describes the inhabitants of Libya in an uncharacteristically positive manner (“intelligent, thoughtful, wise, humble”, etc.), though they too are accused of being incestuous.

 

[JewishNationalist]

yes how your perceived is far more important than what 23andme says. i would never claim to be white or turkic even though i have some euro/turkic ancestry. if i claimed to be white i would be a subject of mockery

same thing with your phenotype. if you don’t look northern/western euro, you shouldn’t claim to be one

if you are native european then you are white. simple as that, and you wont have white genetics without being white; thus greeks are white

 

[Ghoulish]

The statue was made after him while what you posted is just fan art from Pompei

Again no proof this is a white dude lmao, if ur whole argument is posting statues with no dyes and a word that ranged from reddish light brown to dark brown then theres no point arguing.

Don't care about your rating but from what I saw you are far from htn

Cope, show ur lower third then

 

[JewishNationalist]

have u ever read the writings of Herodotus or are u talking out of your hole? he greatly admired the Persians

The contrast in how Greco-Romans viewed Europeans and non-Europeans is exemplified in ‘Of the Familiarities between Countries and the Triplicities and Stars,’ authored in the 2nd Century AD by the Roman-born Greek polymath Claudius Ptolemy. He divides the world into four quarters — Europe (including Northern Europe), North Asia (Scythia), South Asia (including Middle East), and Libya (Africa) — and attributes the racial and ethnic characteristics of their inhabitants to geography and astrology. Ptolemy spends a lengthy amount of time singing endless praises for every European ethnic group, discussing their individual quirks without disparaging a single one (“independent, liberty-loving, industrious, warlike, cleanly, magnanimous, fierce, headstrong, masterful, benevolent, cooperative” etc.).

He then turns his attention to Asia, about which he has almost nothing positive to say at all. South Asians (India, Ariana, Parthia, Media, Persia, Babylonia, Mesopotamia, etc.) are accused of being fond of luxuries and adornment, having sex in public, being incestuous with their own mothers, and generally “effeminate in dress, in adornment, and in all habits relating to the body.” India and Ariana are specifically called “ugly, unclean, and bestial.” He states that the Western Middle Easterners (Syria, Judaea, Phoenicia, Chaldaea, Arabia, etc.) are “more gifted in trade and exchange […] more unscrupulous, despicable cowards, treacherous, servile, and in general fickle.” Syrians and Judaeans are specifically accused of being “bold, godless, and scheming.”

He describes the inhabitants of Libya in an uncharacteristically positive manner (“intelligent, thoughtful, wise, humble”, etc.), though they too are accused of being incestuous.

 

[Shrek2OnDvD]

The contrast in how Greco-Romans viewed Europeans and non-Europeans is exemplified in ‘Of the Familiarities between Countries and the Triplicities and Stars,’ authored in the 2nd Century AD by the Roman-born Greek polymath Claudius Ptolemy. He divides the world into four quarters — Europe (including Northern Europe), North Asia (Scythia), South Asia (including Middle East), and Libya (Africa) — and attributes the racial and ethnic characteristics of their inhabitants to geography and astrology. Ptolemy spends a lengthy amount of time singing endless praises for every European ethnic group, discussing their individual quirks without disparaging a single one (“independent, liberty-loving, industrious, warlike, cleanly, magnanimous, fierce, headstrong, masterful, benevolent, cooperative” etc.).

He then turns his attention to Asia, about which he has almost nothing positive to say at all. South Asians (India, Ariana, Parthia, Media, Persia, Babylonia, Mesopotamia, etc.) are accused of being fond of luxuries and adornment, having sex in public, being incestuous with their own mothers, and generally “effeminate in dress, in adornment, and in all habits relating to the body.” India and Ariana are specifically called “ugly, unclean, and bestial.” He states that the Western Middle Easterners (Syria, Judaea, Phoenicia, Chaldaea, Arabia, etc.) are “more gifted in trade and exchange […] more unscrupulous, despicable cowards, treacherous, servile, and in general fickle.” Syrians and Judaeans are specifically accused of being “bold, godless, and scheming.”

He describes the inhabitants of Libya in an uncharacteristically positive manner (“intelligent, thoughtful, wise, humble”, etc.), though they too are accused of being incestuous.

“those who are too black are cowards, see the egpytians

those who are too white are cowards, see women

the ideal man is in the middle”

- Aristotle, Physiognomonics (Gr.: Φυσιογνωμονικά)

A Minoan wall painting. The figure in the middle is a woman (notice the breasts and the hair), so she’s painted with skin as white as milk. The rest are men, so they’re painted as dark as chocolate.

 

[Shrek2OnDvD]

if you are native european then you are white. simple as that, and you wont have white genetics without being white; thus greeks are white

okay fine no problem

just understand that many people would disagree with you

 

[JewishNationalist]

“those who are too black are cowards, see the egpytians

those who are too white are cowards, see women

the ideal man is in the middle”

- Aristotle, Physiognomonics (Gr.: Φυσιογνωμονικά)

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A Minoan wall painting. The figure in the middle is a woman (notice the breasts and the hair), so she’s painted with skin as white as milk. The rest are men, so they’re painted as dark as chocolate.

so what? they still despised the southern barbarians more than northern ones
also what race are you?

 

[Shrek2OnDvD]

so what? they still despised the southern barbarians more than northern ones
also what race are you?

despised because they were a greater threat and more impressive. the wealth and treasures came from the east

northerners were mostly poor slaves. probably less despised but maybe more pitied

i am iranic

 

[diarrhetic]

“those who are too black are cowards, see the egpytians

those who are too white are cowards, see women

the ideal man is in the middle”

- Aristotle, Physiognomonics (Gr.: Φυσιογνωμονικά)

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A Minoan wall painting. The figure in the middle is a woman (notice the breasts and the hair), so she’s painted with skin as white as milk. The rest are men, so they’re painted as dark as chocolate.

White was considered effeminate because women werent allowed to go outside.Darker skin was seen as more masculine bc men would get tanned working under the sun

 

[JewishNationalist]

despised because they were a greater threat and more impressive. the wealth and treasures came from the east

northerners were mostly poor slaves. probably less despised but maybe more pitied

wrong, thats not what the word "despise" means, if something is a greater threat it causes hatred, if something is some irrelevant sewer garbage rat then it causes despise, disgust but not hatred
yet yeah they despised southern barbarians more because they were effeminate faggots in the ancient greek eyes, while northern barbarians were more masculine, tough etc. more equal to ancient greeks

 

[Shrek2OnDvD]

btw i don’t hate white people or anyone else

some greeks are white, some are dark. im not denying that

whiteness itself is a very meaningless concept because no one can accurately define what it really means

if someone with olive skin and a dark complexion is white to you then that’s fine, im not gonna hate on that

@diarrhetic

 

[diarrhetic]

okay fine no problem

just understand that many people would disagree with you

The definition of white is a someone indigenous to europe.

wrong, thats not what the word "despise" means, if something is a greater threat it causes hatred, if something is some irrelevant sewer garbage rat then it causes despise, disgust but not hatred
yet yeah they despised southern barbarians more because they were effeminate faggots in the ancient greek eyes, while northern barbarians were more masculine, tough etc. more equal to ancient greeks

true you can read many athenians poems about how persians were weak and overly emotional

 

[JewishNationalist]

btw i don’t hate white people or anyone else

some greeks are white, some are dark. im not denying that

whiteness itself is a very meaningless concept because no one can accurately define what it really means

if someone with olive skin and a dark complexion is white to you then that’s fine, im not gonna hate on that

@diarrhetic

white=native european. simple as that
no need to make up some slop gay faggot bullshit as if you aren't white because muh dark hair

 

[JewishNationalist]

The definition of white is a someone indigenous to europe.

true you can read many athenians poems about how persians were weak and overly emotional

yep they were also using very gay perfume

 

[Shrek2OnDvD]

wrong, thats not what the word "despise" means, if something is a greater threat it causes hatred, if something is some irrelevant sewer garbage rat then it causes despise, disgust but not hatred
yet yeah they despised southern barbarians more because they were effeminate faggots in the ancient greek eyes, while northern barbarians were more masculine, tough etc. more equal to ancient greeks

what?

if they weren’t hated then why did they fight constantly and have multiple wars? why did Greeks often speak of the treasures and wealth that Persia had? why did some Greeks admire the systems and governance of persian states?

 

[diarrhetic]

btw i don’t hate white people or anyone else

some greeks are white, some are dark. im not denying that

whiteness itself is a very meaningless concept because no one can accurately define what it really means

if someone with olive skin and a dark complexion is white to you then that’s fine, im not gonna hate on that

@diarrhetic

Nothing here is insulting. I personally believe white is too broad of a term.Europeans should be catigorized by region (meds, northern,slavs)

 

[JewishNationalist]

what?

if they weren’t hated then why did they fight constantly and have multiple wars? why did Greeks often speak of the treasures and wealth that Persia had? why did some Greeks admire the systems and governance of persian states?

if you think "admiring" some wealth and political system means hatred then ig you don't know what the word hatred means
and btw they didn't like persian government state, they thought its too autocratic and barbaric
in wealth they didn't admire persians either, they were richer yeah but to greeks it was just very gay

 

[Shrek2OnDvD]

white=native european. simple as that
no need to make up some slop gay faggot bullshit as if you aren't white because muh dark hair

are sicilians white? Does the border between whiteness and browness end at the turkish Greek border?

 

[Former Shortcel]

We were greek philosophers and such

 

[diarrhetic]

what?

if they weren’t hated then why did they fight constantly and have multiple wars? why did Greeks often speak of the treasures and wealth that Persia had? why did some Greeks admire the systems and governance of persian states?

they didnt admire the gorvenance since they were under absolute rule ΄΄δούλοι΄΄

 

[Shrek2OnDvD]

if you think "admiring" some wealth and political system means hatred then ig you don't know what the word hatred means
and btw they didn't like persian government state, they thought its too autocratic and barbaric
in wealth they didn't admire persians either, they were richer yeah but to greeks it was just very gay

Greek authors were coping ngl. Persian history is admirable and worthy of respect

Besides i already gave you an example of how Greeks compared Scythian men to women

 

[JewishNationalist]

are sicilians white? Does the border between whiteness and browness end at the turkish Greek border?

sicilians are white
and no the border between whites and browns isn't at the turkish greek border. some turks are white but these are balkan western turks, other than that yeah greeks are white turks no

 

[Bully]

Again no proof this is a white dude lmao, if ur whole argument is posting statues with no dyes and a word that ranged from reddish light brown to dark brown then theres no point arguing.

Wrong info again
Are you stupid?You can't read or see?

ξανθός means blonde now.In ancient greek it meant light brown hair(dirty blonde or slightly ginger.I live in greece so i know greek and we get taught ancient greek in school btw

The statue was made after him.He is clearly white to everyone expect you.

Cope, show ur lower third then

Mine looks better because it has far better shape although it has less bone mass.

 

[Shrek2OnDvD]

sicilians are white
and no the border between whites and browns isn't at the turkish greek border. some turks are white but these are balkan western turks, other than that yeah greeks are white turks no

okay that’s fine

I’ve met Sicilians with the same complexion as me. ur Definition of whiteness seems very broad

 

[diarrhetic]

Wrong info again
Are you stupid and can't read or see?

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The statue was made after him.He is clearly white to everyone expect you.

Mine looks better because it has far better shape although it has less bone mass.

never called him non white just classified the meaning of ξανθήν and how it has changed through history

 

[Shrek2OnDvD]

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The statue was made after him.He is clearly white to everyone expect you.

i have the same lips, nose, eyes, jaw, facial feature as him but i am not white

 

[JewishNationalist]

okay that’s fine

I’ve met Sicilians with the same complexion as me. ur Definition of whiteness seems very broad

there's just no strict borders between races as they are all gradients
whats your race?

 

[Bully]

never called him non white just classified the meaning of ξανθήν and how it has changed through history

I used your text as proof not attack on anything you said.The reply was to the other guy.

 

[Shrek2OnDvD]

there's just no strict borders between races as they are all gradients
whats your race?

exactly

i am iranic

 

[Bully]

i have the same lips, nose, eyes, jaw, facial feature as him but i am not white

Post it in dms to prove it if that is so(post AI recitation of your image if you are concerned for privacy)

 

[JewishNationalist]

exactly

i am iranic

ohh well
and im slavic

 

[Ghoulish]

Mine looks better because it has far better shape although it has less bone mass.

No it doesn’t + send lower third then

The statue was made after him.He is clearly white to everyone expect you.

I saw a vid of some pitch black Indian nigga who looked identical to the statue standing next to it, I’ll send it if I find it had the exact same facial features and hair

 

[Shrek2OnDvD]

ohh well
and im slavic

ukraine?

 

[JewishNationalist]

ukraine?

no but my country borders it

 

[diarrhetic]

no but my country borders it

are you jewish(ethnicity or religion)

 

[JewishNationalist]

are you jewish(ethnicity or religion)

no

 

[JewishNationalist]

are you jewish(ethnicity or religion)

im philosemitic