{URGENT} How do I immediately stop shedding + diffuse thinning?

[EmilKing]

After many many long days of debate , I had enough boyos. Officially a Fincel. Just took 0.5mg for the first time in my life

Question for Hair pros, How do I immediately stop shedding and noticiable diffuse thinning? I know fin takes months to actually start to kick in

Do I buy minox? RU? How do I use them?

note: My hairline isnt receding aggressively at all and not bald spots. however im seeing very noticeable diffuse thinning

 

[Deleted member 439]

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[Rich/Jewish_Gooner$]

hair system no sides and quality you never achieve naturally

 

[Deleted member 9699]

Do a bloodtest first
Maybe a deficiency in something is causing hair thinning

 

[Dainslief]

1)Anti-fungal shampoos. Nizoral or Philip kingsley.

In a study with 150 men who suffer from hereditary hair loss and dandruff, Ketoconazole and Piroctone Olamine were compared*. Excessive secretion of sebum, dandruff and seborrheic dermatitis are often linked with hair loss and hereditary hair loss. The 150 men received a shampoo with 1% Ketoconazole or 1% Piroctone Olamine. They had to use this shampoo 2 to 3 times per week for a duration of six months.

All treatments showed a reduction in itching and dandruff after 2 to 6 weeks. If we take a look at the effect of the treatments on various hair growth parameters, we see the following figures (in percentages):

The severity of hair loss decreases (Ketoconazole: -17.3%, Piroctone Olamine: -16.5%)
The percentage of hairs in the growth phase increases (Ketoconazole 4.9%, Piroctone Olamine: 7.9%)
The effect on the hair diameter is increased by 5.4% with Ketoconazole and by 7.7% with Piroctone Olamine.
Thus, the study shows that Piroctone Olamine scores better in a number of areas in comparison to Ketoconazole**:
Compared to Ketoconazole, Piroctone Olamine ensures an increase in the number of hairs in the growth phase (anagen phase) by more than 10% in 33% of people.
Piroctone Olamine gives 88% of the people thicker hair, despite hereditary hair loss, whereby this is 78% with Ketoconazole.
If we take a look at how many people experience a significant increase (more than 10%) of the hair diameter, this is 28% with Ketoconazole and as much as 34% with Piroctone Olamine (10% larger diameter means that the hair became 20% heavier).

2) Aspirin 81mg, to stop PGD2 conversion. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3319975/

3)Avoiding polyunsaturated (nuts, legumes, fatty fish) because they feed scalp fungus and cause inflammation (aspirin, vitamin e both reduce the damage).

4)Reducing endotoxins, avoid anything that slows digestions, causes gas, bloating - gluten, commercial dairy, processed food, starches etc.

Eat raw carrots with coconut oil (carrots are anti-estrogenic, coconut oil anti-fungal etc), bamboo shoots, white button mushrooms and cascara Sagrada. All of these will help with reducing gut endotoxins.

5)Scalp massages to break down fribrosis, calcification and biofilm. (Apple cider vinegar, topical magnesium oil, oral Serrapeptase, will help as well).

6)Topical T3, can reverse hair thinning due to thyroid issue. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/11525263/

"Topical triiodothyronine stimulates epidermal proliferation, dermal thickening, and hair growth."

 

[Gaia262]

Use keratin fibers for now and start to research hair systems.

Me before and after a few days ago

 

[lutte]

Use keratin fibers for now and start to research hair systems.

Me before and after a few days ago

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mirin
do they get uncomfortable to wear?

 

[everydayfun]

mirin
do they get uncomfortable to wear?

i guess it depends, but when I wear mine i can't tell it's there, it feels like real hair does where you forget about it.

 

[BigBoy]

Rope Surgery 3

 

[Gaia262]

mirin
do they get uncomfortable to wear?

Nope, feels exactly like my real hair.

I made a guide here.

A Guide: The Solution to Hairloss - For Anyone Who Is Losing their Hair

As people are aware balding/being bald is a detriment to ones looks barring a few key celebrities. I have seen nothing but poor advice being given on this website so though to create a guide to deal with this issue once and for all and would appreciate that it is stickied/pinned for future...

looksmax.org

 

[EmilKing]

Do a bloodtest first
Maybe a deficiency in something is causing hair thinning

took your advice and got a very comprehensive lab test requisition.

Test is getting done in exactly one month (labs super busy)
It will include:

Total T
Free T
DHT
SHBG
LH
FSH
Estrogen
Dhea
Vitamin d25
Prolactin
+ a few more

QUESTION:

What should i be looking out for the most in the results?
Also the Fin will already be in my system (1 month in) Unfortunately couldn't get bloods done sooner. How will this affect the result? How significant will it be?

 

[EmilKing]

1)Anti-fungal shampoos. Nizoral or Philip kingsley.

In a study with 150 men who suffer from hereditary hair loss and dandruff, Ketoconazole and Piroctone Olamine were compared*. Excessive secretion of sebum, dandruff and seborrheic dermatitis are often linked with hair loss and hereditary hair loss. The 150 men received a shampoo with 1% Ketoconazole or 1% Piroctone Olamine. They had to use this shampoo 2 to 3 times per week for a duration of six months.

All treatments showed a reduction in itching and dandruff after 2 to 6 weeks. If we take a look at the effect of the treatments on various hair growth parameters, we see the following figures (in percentages):

The severity of hair loss decreases (Ketoconazole: -17.3%, Piroctone Olamine: -16.5%)
The percentage of hairs in the growth phase increases (Ketoconazole 4.9%, Piroctone Olamine: 7.9%)
The effect on the hair diameter is increased by 5.4% with Ketoconazole and by 7.7% with Piroctone Olamine.
Thus, the study shows that Piroctone Olamine scores better in a number of areas in comparison to Ketoconazole**:
Compared to Ketoconazole, Piroctone Olamine ensures an increase in the number of hairs in the growth phase (anagen phase) by more than 10% in 33% of people.
Piroctone Olamine gives 88% of the people thicker hair, despite hereditary hair loss, whereby this is 78% with Ketoconazole.
If we take a look at how many people experience a significant increase (more than 10%) of the hair diameter, this is 28% with Ketoconazole and as much as 34% with Piroctone Olamine (10% larger diameter means that the hair became 20% heavier).

2) Aspirin 81mg, to stop PGD2 conversion. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3319975/

3)Avoiding polyunsaturated (nuts, legumes, fatty fish) because they feed scalp fungus and cause inflammation (aspirin, vitamin e both reduce the damage).

4)Reducing endotoxins, avoid anything that slows digestions, causes gas, bloating - gluten, commercial dairy, processed food, starches etc.

Eat raw carrots with coconut oil (carrots are anti-estrogenic, coconut oil anti-fungal etc), bamboo shoots, white button mushrooms and cascara Sagrada. All of these will help with reducing gut endotoxins.

5)Scalp massages to break down fribrosis, calcification and biofilm. (Apple cider vinegar, topical magnesium oil, oral Serrapeptase, will help as well).

6)Topical T3, can reverse hair thinning due to thyroid issue. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/11525263/

"Topical triiodothyronine stimulates epidermal proliferation, dermal thickening, and hair growth."

I just bought nizoral, how often can i use it? How about aspirin

3 - does fish oil supplement count?
4- This is extremely hard for me but i can try

 

[Rabbi]

Fin minox foam and microneedle the hairline don’t let the hairs die

 

[EmilKing]

Fin minox foam and microneedle the hairline don’t let the hairs die

Already on fin,
Minox foam coming next week.

A bit scared of micro needling. how bad is the bleeding?

 

[Rabbi]

Already on fin,
Minox foam coming next week.

A bit scared of micro needling. how bad is the bleeding?

It doesn’t need to bleed maybe just couple of blood spots but mostly redness

 

[Deleted member 9511]

1)Anti-fungal shampoos. Nizoral or Philip kingsley.

In a study with 150 men who suffer from hereditary hair loss and dandruff, Ketoconazole and Piroctone Olamine were compared*. Excessive secretion of sebum, dandruff and seborrheic dermatitis are often linked with hair loss and hereditary hair loss. The 150 men received a shampoo with 1% Ketoconazole or 1% Piroctone Olamine. They had to use this shampoo 2 to 3 times per week for a duration of six months.

All treatments showed a reduction in itching and dandruff after 2 to 6 weeks. If we take a look at the effect of the treatments on various hair growth parameters, we see the following figures (in percentages):

The severity of hair loss decreases (Ketoconazole: -17.3%, Piroctone Olamine: -16.5%)
The percentage of hairs in the growth phase increases (Ketoconazole 4.9%, Piroctone Olamine: 7.9%)
The effect on the hair diameter is increased by 5.4% with Ketoconazole and by 7.7% with Piroctone Olamine.
Thus, the study shows that Piroctone Olamine scores better in a number of areas in comparison to Ketoconazole**:
Compared to Ketoconazole, Piroctone Olamine ensures an increase in the number of hairs in the growth phase (anagen phase) by more than 10% in 33% of people.
Piroctone Olamine gives 88% of the people thicker hair, despite hereditary hair loss, whereby this is 78% with Ketoconazole.
If we take a look at how many people experience a significant increase (more than 10%) of the hair diameter, this is 28% with Ketoconazole and as much as 34% with Piroctone Olamine (10% larger diameter means that the hair became 20% heavier).

2) Aspirin 81mg, to stop PGD2 conversion. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3319975/

3)Avoiding polyunsaturated (nuts, legumes, fatty fish) because they feed scalp fungus and cause inflammation (aspirin, vitamin e both reduce the damage).

4)Reducing endotoxins, avoid anything that slows digestions, causes gas, bloating - gluten, commercial dairy, processed food, starches etc.

Eat raw carrots with coconut oil (carrots are anti-estrogenic, coconut oil anti-fungal etc), bamboo shoots, white button mushrooms and cascara Sagrada. All of these will help with reducing gut endotoxins.

5)Scalp massages to break down fribrosis, calcification and biofilm. (Apple cider vinegar, topical magnesium oil, oral Serrapeptase, will help as well).

6)Topical T3, can reverse hair thinning due to thyroid issue. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/11525263/

"Topical triiodothyronine stimulates epidermal proliferation, dermal thickening, and hair growth."

odd about hte piroctone olamine vs the ketoconazole.

it says severity decreased more on keto but piroctone olamine grew more hairs??
i don't really understand what that is supposed to mean. Wouldn't piroctone olamine have more hairs if it grew more?????


also aspirin would suppress the hair growth prostaglandins too wouldn't it?? Not to mention the risk of internal bleeding or the stomach lining problems that can occur from aspirin

 

[Deleted member 9511]

1)Anti-fungal shampoos. Nizoral or Philip kingsley.

In a study with 150 men who suffer from hereditary hair loss and dandruff, Ketoconazole and Piroctone Olamine were compared*. Excessive secretion of sebum, dandruff and seborrheic dermatitis are often linked with hair loss and hereditary hair loss. The 150 men received a shampoo with 1% Ketoconazole or 1% Piroctone Olamine. They had to use this shampoo 2 to 3 times per week for a duration of six months.

All treatments showed a reduction in itching and dandruff after 2 to 6 weeks. If we take a look at the effect of the treatments on various hair growth parameters, we see the following figures (in percentages):

The severity of hair loss decreases (Ketoconazole: -17.3%, Piroctone Olamine: -16.5%)
The percentage of hairs in the growth phase increases (Ketoconazole 4.9%, Piroctone Olamine: 7.9%)
The effect on the hair diameter is increased by 5.4% with Ketoconazole and by 7.7% with Piroctone Olamine.
Thus, the study shows that Piroctone Olamine scores better in a number of areas in comparison to Ketoconazole**:
Compared to Ketoconazole, Piroctone Olamine ensures an increase in the number of hairs in the growth phase (anagen phase) by more than 10% in 33% of people.
Piroctone Olamine gives 88% of the people thicker hair, despite hereditary hair loss, whereby this is 78% with Ketoconazole.
If we take a look at how many people experience a significant increase (more than 10%) of the hair diameter, this is 28% with Ketoconazole and as much as 34% with Piroctone Olamine (10% larger diameter means that the hair became 20% heavier).

2) Aspirin 81mg, to stop PGD2 conversion. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3319975/

3)Avoiding polyunsaturated (nuts, legumes, fatty fish) because they feed scalp fungus and cause inflammation (aspirin, vitamin e both reduce the damage).

4)Reducing endotoxins, avoid anything that slows digestions, causes gas, bloating - gluten, commercial dairy, processed food, starches etc.

Eat raw carrots with coconut oil (carrots are anti-estrogenic, coconut oil anti-fungal etc), bamboo shoots, white button mushrooms and cascara Sagrada. All of these will help with reducing gut endotoxins.

5)Scalp massages to break down fribrosis, calcification and biofilm. (Apple cider vinegar, topical magnesium oil, oral Serrapeptase, will help as well).

6)Topical T3, can reverse hair thinning due to thyroid issue. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/11525263/

"Topical triiodothyronine stimulates epidermal proliferation, dermal thickening, and hair growth."

another thing

you suggested raw carrots because they are anti estrogenic - why?

you don't want to have high E sure

but doesn't E help with hair? wouldn't you want to target DHT or Test in the dermal papilla cells?

unless you mean to help reduce fin sides in which case rlly good idea

 

[EmilKing]

lowkey bump

Test is getting done in exactly one month (labs super busy)
It will include:

Total T
Free T
DHT
SHBG
LH
FSH
Estrogen
Dhea
Vitamin d25
Prolactin
+ a few more

QUESTION:

What should i be looking out for the most in the results?
Also the Fin will already be in my system (1 month in) Unfortunately couldn't get bloods done sooner. How will this affect the result? How significant will it be?

 

[6’1cel]

Use keratin fibers for now and start to research hair systems.

Me before and after a few days ago

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were you a 500th century english monk?

 

[6’1cel]

another thing

you suggested raw carrots because they are anti estrogenic - why?

you don't want to have high E sure

but doesn't E help with hair? wouldn't you want to target DHT or Test in the dermal papilla cells?

unless you mean to help reduce fin sides in which case rlly good idea

this
if anything high e is good because it means less T being converted into dht

 

[Gaia262]

were you a 500th century english munk?

I should of added that is me being prepped to putting the hair system on hence shaved head. This is me last year before putting any hair system on.

 

[Deleted member 7173]

It depends if it's androgenetic or not. Sometimes it isn't

 

[6’1cel]

I should of added that is me being prepped to putting the hair system on hence shaved head. This is me last year before putting any hair system on.

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i know lol
you just had the same hair as english monks

 

[Dainslief]

I just bought nizoral, how often can i use it? How about aspirin

3 - does fish oil supplement count?
4- This is extremely hard for me but i can try

Nizoral 2 - 3 times a week. (Only use one bottle, than switch to other shampoo that contains Piroctone Olamine such as Philip Kingsley's shampoo).

Avoid fish oil supplements.

In declaring EPA and DHA to be safe, the FDA neglected to evaluate their antithyroid, immunosuppressive, lipid peroxidative (Song et al., 2000), light sensitizing, and antimitochondrial effects, their depression of glucose oxidation (Delarue et al., 2003), and their contribution to metastatic cancer (Klieveri, et al., 2000), lipofuscinosis and liver damage, among other problems.

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[Deleted member 5969]

Over for your future children tbh

 

[EmilKing]

Are there any recommendation other then the big3/4

Im looking for something to take the most immediate effect. Really really seeing bad diffuse thinning. (could be fin shed)

 

[patricknotstar]

After many many long days of debate , I had enough boyos. Officially a Fincel. Just took 0.5mg for the first time in my life

Question for Hair pros, How do I immediately stop shedding and noticiable diffuse thinning? I know fin takes months to actually start to kick in

Do I buy minox? RU? How do I use them?

note: My hairline isnt receding aggressively at all and not bald spots. however im seeing very noticeable diffuse thinning

nizoral shampoo helps

 

[EmilKing]

nizoral shampoo helps

already on it

 

[Deleted member 6892]

hair system no sides and quality you never achieve naturally

nigga out here started shedding and people reccomend a hair system this forum is retarded ffs

 

[gigablackcel]

Do a bloodtest first
Maybe a deficiency in something is causing hair thinning

Cope. There's millions of beggars throughtout the world that only consume cheap booze and bread and still have full heads of hair.
Hairloss is caused by trash genetics, period. fin or death.