US wages mog europe to oblivion

[Jason Voorhees]

I kinda knew European salaries were lower, but I didn’t realize the gap was this big until I actually applied to companies in UK and Germany. I cleared the rounds for LSEG and got an offer for around £60k and after London rent and taxes, that’s not much breathing room. Yhe lifestyle’s more relaxed three days in the office, more vacation, less grind but it’s a clear trade-off. In the U.S., even if you’re not feeling “rich” on a six-figure salary the room to grow is just so much bigger.

And the networking here is on different league. Just living in the States, especially on the West Coast, I’ve run into startup founders, hedge fund managers, senior engineers, VC without even going out of my way. Its like linkedin irl. Europe feels more like settle in and be comfortable, whereas the U.S. is push hard now, set yourself up for later. Imo US is Op for moneymaxxing. Nothing comes close getting a greencard is different story tho. Just make money and go back home and live life king size. Getting the offer was great but it really made me think about what I’d be giving up.

 

[Jason Voorhees]

@Chadeep @FaceandBBC @Lefty Rankin

 

[Saint Casanova]

You need £200k per year to be comfortable in London too

 

[Jason Voorhees]

@imontheloose @DBDR @Duke Archer

 

[Jason Voorhees]

You need £200k per year to be comfortable in London too

Europe the real pay bumps usually only come after you've got a few years under your belt or you move into senior roles - but even then, it's nowhere near U.S. levels. Like, a senior engineer in London might hit £90-100k, while the same role in the Bay Area could be pulling $250k+ with stock and bonuses. The gap just never really closes.

 

[Jason Voorhees]

@Bryce @pope

 

[Jason Voorhees]

You need £200k per year to be comfortable in London too

What do you think of the £60k offer. Is it any good?

 

[Jason Voorhees]

@HighIQ ubermensch

 

[Saint Casanova]

What do you think of the £60k offer. Is it any good?

Yes, it’s quite good. Depends on how many years of experience you have though ?

For recent grads or those with less than 2 or 3 years of experience, it’s definitely an outlier salary for most

 

[HighIQ ubermensch]

water

 

[DR. NICKGA]

America is superior to EU

 

[Chadeep]

Europe is Government job

 

[Jason Voorhees]

@WrothEnd @medialcanthus @heightmaxxing

 

[robtical]

My cousin makes 5k a month as teacher, there was a teacher who made 9k a month as teacher. Not to factor in low tax rate in Hong Kong. They might be mogging lots of performative jobs too.

 

[medialcanthus]

I kinda knew European salaries were lower, but I didn’t realize the gap was this big until I actually applied to companies in UK and Germany. I cleared the rounds for LSEG and got an offer for around £60k and after London rent and taxes, that’s not much breathing room. Yhe lifestyle’s more relaxed three days in the office, more vacation, less grind but it’s a clear trade-off. In the U.S., even if you’re not feeling “rich” on a six-figure salary the room to grow is just so much bigger.

And the networking here is on different league. Just living in the States, especially on the West Coast, I’ve run into startup founders, hedge fund managers, senior engineers, VC without even going out of my way. Its like linkedin irl. Europe feels more like settle in and be comfortable, whereas the U.S. is push hard now, set yourself up for later. Imo US is Op for moneymaxxing. Nothing comes close getting a greencard is different story tho. Just make money and go back home and live life king size. Getting the offer was great but it really made me think about what I’d be giving up.

until you break your leg

 

[WrothEnd]

I kinda knew European salaries were lower, but I didn’t realize the gap was this big until I actually applied to companies in UK and Germany. I cleared the rounds for LSEG and got an offer for around £60k and after London rent and taxes, that’s not much breathing room. Yhe lifestyle’s more relaxed three days in the office, more vacation, less grind but it’s a clear trade-off. In the U.S., even if you’re not feeling “rich” on a six-figure salary the room to grow is just so much bigger.

And the networking here is on different league. Just living in the States, especially on the West Coast, I’ve run into startup founders, hedge fund managers, senior engineers, VC without even going out of my way. Its like linkedin irl. Europe feels more like settle in and be comfortable, whereas the U.S. is push hard now, set yourself up for later. Imo US is Op for moneymaxxing. Nothing comes close getting a greencard is different story tho. Just make money and go back home and live life king size. Getting the offer was great but it really made me think about what I’d be giving up.

Yeah. And the UK and Germany are some of the highest paying countries. Imagine how its like in the less developed parts.

I make $1500 a month working part time before taxes. Altough, its my first job. Most of the time I’m just sitting around anyway.

It’s really hard to build wealth working a typical job here, but you have to take into account that the cost of living is much lower. I live in the capital city, and in an okay area, you only pay about $100 for rent for a 2 room apartment. Theres obviously way more expensive areas downtown, but yeah

I also like the lifestyle so I dont complain. It’s not that work focused. In Spain for example they are trying to introduce a 4 day work week, although I didn't keep track if that so I'm not sure if it's working.

 

[Jason Voorhees]

Yeah. And the UK and Germany are some of the highest paying countries. Imagine how its like in the less developed parts.

I make $1500 a month working part time before taxes. Altough, its my first job. Most of the time I’m just sitting around anyway.

It’s really hard to build wealth working a typical job here, but you have to take into account that the cost of living is much lower. I live in the capital city, and in an okay area, you only pay about $100 for rent for a 2 room apartment. Theres obviously way more expensive areas downtown, but yeah

I also like the lifestyle so I dont complain. It’s not that work focused. In Spain for example they are trying to introduce a 4 day work week, although I didn't keep track if that so I'm not sure if it's working.

Yea. I the US people do expect you to actually work because they are paying you that much but you dont have to grind it out for years. Just get inot a good job grind for 10-15 years and you can comfortably retire in your home country or even rural US. Many people already do this

 

[ProBono]

San Fran is super nice apart from the homeless people, went there for a couple of days once and the rich areas are really good vibes with my favourite kind of half sunny weather.

They are kind of mentally insane though I saw some kind of lesbian church while driving around??? Literally like bisexual church dont know what the fuck that was about. The guy I was with (entrepreneur) also lowkey despised homeless people on a level way beyond me.

 

[The Grinch]

Yeah but in europe we don’t get shot on our way to school or to the supermarket, so

 

[whitebitchslayer]

I kinda knew European salaries were lower, but I didn’t realize the gap was this big until I actually applied to companies in UK and Germany. I cleared the rounds for LSEG and got an offer for around £60k and after London rent and taxes, that’s not much breathing room. Yhe lifestyle’s more relaxed three days in the office, more vacation, less grind but it’s a clear trade-off. In the U.S., even if you’re not feeling “rich” on a six-figure salary the room to grow is just so much bigger.

And the networking here is on different league. Just living in the States, especially on the West Coast, I’ve run into startup founders, hedge fund managers, senior engineers, VC without even going out of my way. Its like linkedin irl. Europe feels more like settle in and be comfortable, whereas the U.S. is push hard now, set yourself up for later. Imo US is Op for moneymaxxing. Nothing comes close getting a greencard is different story tho. Just make money and go back home and live life king size. Getting the offer was great but it really made me think about what I’d be giving up.

Yea it funny seeing Europeans make fun of American work culture with some jobs that work 100+ hour weeks and brag about their vacation time when really they are trading off money so there’s not a big difference they might as well get a U.S. part time job.

 

[Jason Voorhees]

San Fran is super nice apart from the homeless people, went there for a couple of days once and the rich areas are really good vibes with my favourite kind of half sunny weather.

They are kind of mentally insane though I saw some kind of lesbian church while driving around??? Literally like bisexual church dont know what the fuck that was about. The guy I was with (entrepreneur) also lowkey despised homeless people on a level way beyond me.

Entire state of California is like this full of hobos, drug addicts, immigrants and trannies

 

[ProBono]

Entire state of California is like this full of hobos, drug addicts, immigrants and trannies

California is like an in the flesh parody of the liberal party, ai driven cars and fake woke nouveau rich crypto grifters at the top and crackheads with pink hair at the bottom

 

[Jason Voorhees]

California is like an in the flesh parody of the liberal party, ai driven cars and fake woke nouveau rich crypto grifters at the top and crackheads with pink hair at the bottom

Yea that’s pretty much Cali in a nutshell. tech bros cashing out stock options, crypto guys flexing Lambos and all of it happening a block away from tent encampments. One street looks like a glossy LinkedIn success story the next like a zombie movie set.

 

[FacialStructure404]

Europe feels more like settle in and be comfortable, whereas the U.S. is push hard now, set yourself up for later.

Yes, goy! Trade your precious youth for more shekels and set yourself up for “later”.

 

[Proex]

Yea its shit here

 

[got.daim]

America is superior to EU

American natives were white btw

 

[ProBono]

Yea that’s pretty much Cali in a nutshell. tech bros cashing out stock options, crypto guys flexing Lambos and all of it happening a block away from tent encampments. One street looks like a glossy LinkedIn success story the next like a zombie movie set.

This except the truly wealthy and generational magnates live further up the mountains like in gta. Only poors and entrepreneurs have to live in dense suburbs.

 

[WrothEnd]

Yea. I the US people do expect you to actually work because they are paying you that much but you dont have to grind it out for years. Just get inot a good job grind for 10-15 years and you can comfortably retire in your home country or even rural US. Many people already do this

I was considering this but I'm not sure how much my college degree, work experience, etc would matter if I move. And you have to get a visa as well. Maybe if I can get into a top university ans then get an intership, I could have a chance but that's easier said than done.

Also I dont think I will fit in that well, I feel like the lifestyle and people are too different.

 

[Jason Voorhees]

I was considering this but I'm not sure how much my college degree, work experience, etc would matter if I move. And you have to get a visa as well. Maybe if I can get into a top university ans then get an intership, I could have a chance but that's easier said than done.

Also I dont think I will fit in that well, I feel like the lifestyle and people are too different.

Getting a H1B is quite difficult I'm not gonna lie but it's not impossible if you play it smart. A lot of people including myself do the top university or/and internship route because it's one of the smoother pipelines you get in on a student or Internship visa land an top internship convert it to a full time offer and then have your company sponsor you. The catch is exactly what you said: easier said than done, because top unis and internships are competitive and expensive.

As for fitting in. Yea. California's vibe can feel alien if you're not used to the tech bro hustle. The lifestyle's fast, expensive and sometimes performative. crypto kings and woke crusaders don't always mesh with everyone.

 

[WrothEnd]

A lot of people including myself do the top university or/and internship

How do you manage to get into a top university as a foreigner? What kind of steps did you take? Did you focus on anything specific or just generally have strong achievements?

 

[Jason Voorhees]

How do you manage to get into a top university as a foreigner? What kind of steps did you take? Did you focus on anything specific or just generally have strong achievements?

I didn’t go to university in America I landed an internship directly, so my path was different. But if you’re aiming for a top U.S. university as an international student, you’ll need to crush your academics (near perfect GPA and strong test scores) and build standout extracurriculars with a clear “spike” in one or two areas rather than just being well-rounded. In my case focused on cloud development and devops niche and built a solid portfolio with open-source work, did freelance work, networked hard on LinkedIn

 

[Jason Voorhees]

How do you manage to get into a top university as a foreigner? What kind of steps did you take? Did you focus on anything specific or just generally have strong achievements?

I definitely recommend getting an degree from an American uni tho. American unis are unmoggable. Tbh Great teaching style, great classrooms, top tier professors, up to date syllabus, so many extra curriculars and exposre and most of all world wide brand name. Even if the fees is high it is worth it imo. Missing out on all this still remains one of my biggest regrets. I do plan to do my masters from some big name americsn uni tho

I wish I went to big name uni

I wish I went to big name internationally recognized uni like @widdi who goes to Princeton and @imontheloose who goes to Oxford. My university is actually tier 1 regularly in the top 5 in the country with a prestigious brand name but it's more like St. Gallen if you catch my drift. St gallen is...

looksmax.org

 

[heightmax]

I kinda knew European salaries were lower, but I didn’t realize the gap was this big until I actually applied to companies in UK and Germany. I cleared the rounds for LSEG and got an offer for around £60k and after London rent and taxes, that’s not much breathing room. Yhe lifestyle’s more relaxed three days in the office, more vacation, less grind but it’s a clear trade-off. In the U.S., even if you’re not feeling “rich” on a six-figure salary the room to grow is just so much bigger.

And the networking here is on different league. Just living in the States, especially on the West Coast, I’ve run into startup founders, hedge fund managers, senior engineers, VC without even going out of my way. Its like linkedin irl. Europe feels more like settle in and be comfortable, whereas the U.S. is push hard now, set yourself up for later. Imo US is Op for moneymaxxing. Nothing comes close getting a greencard is different story tho. Just make money and go back home and live life king size. Getting the offer was great but it really made me think about what I’d be giving up.

just think about doctors bro

 

[loanshark]

What did you study? Is it still possible to get into US if I have a bachelors from applied mathematics in average Slavic university?