USA commits 45B$ to Ukraine in aid

[MrGlutton]

 

[Deleted member 2130]

It is worth it as long as Ukraine is winning
Russians haven't won a bottle since July

 

[reborn]

On the long term it's a rational investment from the perspective of the USA. Why would they give the Ukraine to the Russians when in 20, 40 or 60 years Ukraine could be part of the nato and more or less property of the USA?

 

[MrGlutton]

It is worth it as long as Ukraine is winning
Russians haven't won a bottle since July

russia was fighting ukraine with 1% of their power.

times are going to change

 

[aBetterMii]

Based

 

[MrGlutton]

On the long term it's a rational investment from the perspective of the USA. Why would they give the Ukraine to the Russians when in 20, 40 or 60 years Ukraine could be part of the nato and more or less property of the USA?

lol
then that's why nuclear war might happen

 

[Deleted member 2130]

russia was fighting ukraine with 1% of their power.

times are going to change

Yeah it is going to change, Russians will mobilize hundred thousands of men with no real military experience, giving them no proper military equipment, and they will get sent to the front line where they will end up as fertilizer

 

[MrGlutton]

Yeah it is going to change, Russians will mobilize hundred thousands of men with no real military experience, giving them no proper military equipment, and they will get sent to the front line where they will end up as fertilizer

doesn't matter

there could be millions of unexperienced soldiers sent, they'll still get what they want out of that country

 

[Deleted member 21597]

Anyone who supports this is a cuck

 

[Deleted member 2130]

doesn't matter

there could be millions of unexperienced soldiers sent, they'll still get what they want out of that country

Nigga I don't know if you are paying attention, but Russia is suffering humiliating losses lately. They got pushed back off Kiev, Kharkiv and had to retreat from Kherson as well. They have lost a lot of trained soldiers and military vehicles. War is a complete failure for them so far. Now you think you are going to win simply because they will send millions of cannon fodder? They can't train them properly, they cannot arm them properly. Their morale is shit, their combat effectiveness is subpar.

Meanwhile Ukrainian soldiers are being trained by NATO as we speak and they get the best weapons like HIMARS and Patriot air defense systems that mog Russian weapons to oblivion. They will get US fighter jets next year after their pilots' training is finished. What will Russia achieve exactly?

 

[Deleted member 17531]

jews smh

 

[MrGlutton]

Nigga I don't know if you are paying attention, but Russia is suffering humiliating losses lately. They got pushed back off Kiev, Kharkiv and had to retreat from Kherson as well. They have lost a lot of trained soldiers and military vehicles. War is a complete failure for them so far. Now you think you are going to win simply because they will send millions of cannon fodder? They can't train them properly, they cannot arm them properly. Their morale is shit, their combat effectiveness is subpar.

Meanwhile Ukrainian soldiers are being trained by NATO as we speak and they get the best weapons like HIMARS and Patriot air defense systems that mog Russian weapons to oblivion. They will get US fighter jets next year after their pilots' training is finished. What will Russia achieve exactly?

you aren't looking at the big picture lol

LOL you think russia is just going to accept losing on their home turf continent?

if you don't agree, that's okay. just watch what happens soon

 

[Deleted member 2130]

you aren't looking at the big picture lol

LOL you think russia is just going to accept losing on their home turf continent?

if you don't agree, that's okay. just watch what happens soon

Russians lost in Chechyna too in the first Chechen war. In their own country against only 1 million mountain shepherd Chechens that used homemade weapons. It is not WW2 anymore. Russian army now sucks big time

 

[MrGlutton]

Russians lost in Chechyna too in the first Chechen war. In their own country against only 1 million mountain shepherd Chechens that used homemade weapons. It is not WW2 anymore. Russian army now sucks big time

wdym it's not WW2 anymore?

they got fucked up worse then and still won lol

their army was always taking heavy casualties

 

[reborn]

russia was fighting ukraine with 1% of their power.

times are going to change

The USA is also supporting Ukraine with 1% of their power bro...

 

[MrGlutton]

The USA is also supporting Ukraine with 1% of their power bro...

45B is alot of money

and even if they could support it militarily it won't mean shit

 

[reborn]

45B is alot of money

and even if they could support it militarily it won't mean shit

USA GDP:
$23,000,000,000,000

45B:
$45,000,000,000

45B is 0.2% of their GDP.

 

[MrGlutton]

USA GDP:
$23,000,000,000,000

45B:
$45,000,000,000

45B is 0.2% of their GDP.

so?

it's still alot of money

 

[reborn]

so?

it's still alot of money

Yeah and 100,000 dead soldiers are still a lot even if Russia still has more.

 

[Deleted member 23941]

The American State working in conjunction with pernicious international institutions has crippled Europe and if the conflict is not resolved then it will see Europe divided up between the large blocs as we are seeing form across the world.
The EU could have been an excellent imperium of sorts but suffered from a retarded identity crisis, it wanted to be an imperium but still kept itself attached to the American ideology due-to a horrible mythology imposed on it by the "American State" (we shall call it for arguement sake), and did not know what was essential to Europe. So it created justified opposition in places like Eastern Europe and other parts of Europe where we saw Nationalism rise. With this Nationalism we see in Eastern Europe what was bolstered by American support for countries like Poland we saw anti-Russian sentiment build where the goal of the EU seemed to be to integrate Russia to no longer be dependent on America for resources.