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First post and I'm used to redditor aversion to statistics and logic so I'll make a list of disclaimers. Yes these variables are not necessarily equally weighted. Yes they are not necessarily linear or independent. Doesn't matter it's an estimator and those diminishing returns often set in the outer percentiles, there can just be a fraction of error at times because 7ft horsecocked subhuman technically scores well, irrelevant as it's a small percentage of cases. I'm keen to point it's at least a rarity calculator as you can possibly find clashes on equal scores. This just serves to be a useful basis for variable comparison as then you have equal rarity. I'll try to hide dry neeky stuff about finding Zscores of combined Zscores in a spoiler section for those interested. And obviously style, charisma, class, status, social skills do still matter. We're also comparing numbers to young western standards. Face scores also based on appeal not gay alien autism.Ryan Gosling looks better than Jordan Barret, good looking human > trans cat. If you disagree you don't just need to go outside you need to get on Normie internet more. And obviously I'm only looking at physical stuff not status and wealth, you can probably add this in if you want as my method allows limitless variables.
Content/summary
1) explaining Standard deviations for manuallabourcells, allocating heights, faces, bodies and dick sizes to different scores so everyone's on the same page (no a chad isn't 1 in 2 billion, pointless scale and definition you don't measure distance the distance in between countries in light years ).
2) application, why people do unfair comparisons on face vs height and blackpillers often use Reddit level logic. ("Variable A means nothing because an extreme outlier in variable B is more significant" or "face is everything is as Tom cruise mogs my 6'1 LTN friend" a 6'1 LTN is roughly average in score and rarity, Tom cruise is +3 or 4 standard deviations. Why people combine variables wrong, it's not just multiplying as that only works out Mog Monopolies. For example a 5'10 MTN, isn't top 25% (0.5*0.5), 25% of guys are Taller and Better looking, but a 5'9.5 Chad wouldn't be included in that sum and you can also work down to say he has a Mognopoloy on 25% of guys. You also can't just average scores as that would imply being top 1% on 2 separate variables is as probable as being top 1% on 1 variable. How to work them out
3) Examples, how many SDs you need, I think 2-3 is enough to do very well in real life (this does not mean top 2% as you'll see in the math section) depending on the variable, GigaMoggers usually have 6,7,8,+. Average people obviously need personality, success or luck in finding love young.
Math guide
So here's a bell curve distribution. Most people are gonna be around the peak which is the average, with outliers becoming increasingly rare and every given Z score (how many SD) has a corresponding percentile. 2.33 standard deviations is top 1%, 1.33 is top 10%, etc etc. This will all be familiar to anyone interested in IQ.
I'm gonna keep it simple and put an an average and standard deviation in the table. I'm following TRM/youtube guides and doing every face number is 1 standard deviation, looking back at an unbiased sample such as a school population, it makes sense, 1 in 6 were pleasant to look at, 1 in 50 were very good looking and pulled etc. Please no autism about chads being 1 in a billion, this is a pointlessly limited definition, it's like using light years to measure all distances and standard deviations cover everything as the rarity is exponential, 6SD is already 1 in a billion. 5sd is 1 in 3 million. 4 in 30,000. I'm also just saying average dick is 6 inches with 1 inch standard deviation, 5 seems small and 7 seems commonly large. Asides from face and IQ these variables below will often diminish past 2 SD, not much point in being 6'7, having a 9 incher or roid physique , what you can gain in novelty appeal you probably lose among normal women
For an SMV rarity score just add up Z scores ( how many SD's someone has).
For example Brad Pitt roughly= 4 face+ 2 body= 6 SD
Anthony joshua = 1 face+ 3 body, + 2.67 height=6.67 SD
this doesn't mean AJ mogs Pitt just that roughly they're equally rare given those numbers, which can be debated and if equal can be used to compared variables.
Blackpill austists make this mistake all the time, of course your 6'1 LTN friend (+1height -1Face = 0) gets mogged by by Depp, Cilian murphy, Tom cruise. They're all -0.67 Height + 3 or 4 Face and usually +1 body as well. You have to ask yourself things like "6'4 mtn vs 5'10 chadlite". "6'1 HTN with 1SD physique vs 5'10 Chad"
To work our rarity you must add Z scores and divide by the square root of amount of variables
A common mistake I see people make is they multiply the percentiles going up... But this just works out how many have a Mognopoly on you and inflates your score/rarity. I don't know how to tag but there was a profile called 6ft4 posting about wondering about this.
6ft. Chadlite. Top 25%* top 2* = top 0.5%? 1 in 200? for height and looks? Nope that is just how many are BOTH taller than 6ft and above 2nd percentile looks. You could just as easily work down and do 0.75*0.98 and get a score of top 27%. But that is just showing that 73% are both shorter and uglier. Neither accounts for 5'11 chads, 6ft4 subhumans, 6'3 HTNs etc. so you combine the Z scores 2+0.67=2.67 and divide by the square roof of 2= 1.41 to get +1.89, convert this into a percentile and you get top 3% for the combination of height and face
Examples of moggers and what scores do you need?
In personal experience most men who do well with women (regular sex or LTR with a top few percent woman) basically have 2 or 3 + standard deviation tally. sometimes even just 1 but then also personality
The 3 biggest foggers in my school LTR respectively a 5'11 Chadlite who looks like George Russel the F1 driver
a 5'8 Chadlite/HTN MMA fighter and a 5'10 HTN in decent shape and frame, alleged big dick.
Other successes include a 6'2 ogre with insane frame. A 6'2 MTN with a 7 incher- He obviously get's nothing online but in social circles a good amount of women have ended up trying to sleep with him, Autistic but he's very agreeable and feminismmaxes so he unintentionally has a social circle of lonely women around him. And 1 5'8 HTN with a big cock, declined as height became more important but did very well in school and LTRs well now. and 1 5'8 Gymmaxxed extroverted HTN/Chadlite. 6'2 Gymmamxed HTN and 6'3 Chad with small cock who's now a heartthrob actor
Rough Celebrity SMV score examples, it's hard to compare elite physiques and faces for appeal for example
Ronaldo = +3face +2body + 1height= 6
Cavill = 4face+2body +1 height = 7
Hemsworth = 3.5face + 2or3body + 1.67height = 7-8 minimum
Dolph Lundgren = 3+face 2or3body + 2.33height = 7.33-9.33
Chico,
luckyblue = 4 face +0 or 1 body + 2 height = 6-7
Di caprio = 4face +1 body =5
Brad pitt = 4 face + 2body = 6
Michael B jordan = 2 face + 2 body = 4 (stop coping he is good looking, soft features, appeal, harmony and frauds the jaw with facial hair just fine)
Cilian Murphy = 3face -0.67height + 1 body= 3.33
Content/summary
1) explaining Standard deviations for manuallabourcells, allocating heights, faces, bodies and dick sizes to different scores so everyone's on the same page (no a chad isn't 1 in 2 billion, pointless scale and definition you don't measure distance the distance in between countries in light years ).
2) application, why people do unfair comparisons on face vs height and blackpillers often use Reddit level logic. ("Variable A means nothing because an extreme outlier in variable B is more significant" or "face is everything is as Tom cruise mogs my 6'1 LTN friend" a 6'1 LTN is roughly average in score and rarity, Tom cruise is +3 or 4 standard deviations. Why people combine variables wrong, it's not just multiplying as that only works out Mog Monopolies. For example a 5'10 MTN, isn't top 25% (0.5*0.5), 25% of guys are Taller and Better looking, but a 5'9.5 Chad wouldn't be included in that sum and you can also work down to say he has a Mognopoloy on 25% of guys. You also can't just average scores as that would imply being top 1% on 2 separate variables is as probable as being top 1% on 1 variable. How to work them out
3) Examples, how many SDs you need, I think 2-3 is enough to do very well in real life (this does not mean top 2% as you'll see in the math section) depending on the variable, GigaMoggers usually have 6,7,8,+. Average people obviously need personality, success or luck in finding love young.
Math guide
So here's a bell curve distribution. Most people are gonna be around the peak which is the average, with outliers becoming increasingly rare and every given Z score (how many SD) has a corresponding percentile. 2.33 standard deviations is top 1%, 1.33 is top 10%, etc etc. This will all be familiar to anyone interested in IQ.
I'm gonna keep it simple and put an an average and standard deviation in the table. I'm following TRM/youtube guides and doing every face number is 1 standard deviation, looking back at an unbiased sample such as a school population, it makes sense, 1 in 6 were pleasant to look at, 1 in 50 were very good looking and pulled etc. Please no autism about chads being 1 in a billion, this is a pointlessly limited definition, it's like using light years to measure all distances and standard deviations cover everything as the rarity is exponential, 6SD is already 1 in a billion. 5sd is 1 in 3 million. 4 in 30,000. I'm also just saying average dick is 6 inches with 1 inch standard deviation, 5 seems small and 7 seems commonly large. Asides from face and IQ these variables below will often diminish past 2 SD, not much point in being 6'7, having a 9 incher or roid physique , what you can gain in novelty appeal you probably lose among normal women
Face. 5/10 (1) | Height. 5'10 (3 inches) | Body and frame | Dick. 6 (1 inch) | IQ for fun 100(15) | |
1SD. 1/6. "Fairly" | 6/10 HTN. Jim from office? | 6'1 | Gym goer, can be bulky strong or lean athletic | 7 | 115. Midwit, decent college/proffessional |
2SD. 1/50 "very" | 7/10 Chadlite. Logan Paul? Bieber? MBJ? Gosling? | 6'4 | Probably Ideal tbh, years in gym and lean. | 8 | 130. Very smart. Estimated IQ of CEO's and ceiling for Top College averages. |
3SD. 1/750 "extreme" | 8/10 Chad. Cilian murphy, Ronaldo? | 6'7 | Insane, arguably negative returns/niche/malegaze . Roids | 9 | 145. Genius, appraoching Nobel Prize/ Tech billionaire level. |
4SD. 1/32000 | 9/10 GigaChad/PSL. Dicaprio, Meeks, Cavill etc | 6'10 | N/A | N/A | 160. Certainly nobel prize level and Bill Gates estimate. Memory champion had 159. |
For an SMV rarity score just add up Z scores ( how many SD's someone has).
For example Brad Pitt roughly= 4 face+ 2 body= 6 SD
Anthony joshua = 1 face+ 3 body, + 2.67 height=6.67 SD
this doesn't mean AJ mogs Pitt just that roughly they're equally rare given those numbers, which can be debated and if equal can be used to compared variables.
Blackpill austists make this mistake all the time, of course your 6'1 LTN friend (+1height -1Face = 0) gets mogged by by Depp, Cilian murphy, Tom cruise. They're all -0.67 Height + 3 or 4 Face and usually +1 body as well. You have to ask yourself things like "6'4 mtn vs 5'10 chadlite". "6'1 HTN with 1SD physique vs 5'10 Chad"
To work our rarity you must add Z scores and divide by the square root of amount of variables
A common mistake I see people make is they multiply the percentiles going up... But this just works out how many have a Mognopoly on you and inflates your score/rarity. I don't know how to tag but there was a profile called 6ft4 posting about wondering about this.
6ft. Chadlite. Top 25%* top 2* = top 0.5%? 1 in 200? for height and looks? Nope that is just how many are BOTH taller than 6ft and above 2nd percentile looks. You could just as easily work down and do 0.75*0.98 and get a score of top 27%. But that is just showing that 73% are both shorter and uglier. Neither accounts for 5'11 chads, 6ft4 subhumans, 6'3 HTNs etc. so you combine the Z scores 2+0.67=2.67 and divide by the square roof of 2= 1.41 to get +1.89, convert this into a percentile and you get top 3% for the combination of height and face
Think of everyone getting their Z scores on every individual variable and summing them. Then forming a new distribution of everyones combined Z scores, the new mean is still 0, but the standard deviation has increased and for reasons I don't know the new standard deviation is the square root of amount of variables, so if someone had a score of 4SD across variables he would be +2sd or top 2% on a distribution of combined variables, the easiest way to think of it is that everyone else in the population is also getting extra Z scores to combine so there's more room for outliers, it wouldn't be accurate to sum SDs across multiple variables whilst everyone else doesn't
Examples of moggers and what scores do you need?
In personal experience most men who do well with women (regular sex or LTR with a top few percent woman) basically have 2 or 3 + standard deviation tally. sometimes even just 1 but then also personality
The 3 biggest foggers in my school LTR respectively a 5'11 Chadlite who looks like George Russel the F1 driver
a 5'8 Chadlite/HTN MMA fighter and a 5'10 HTN in decent shape and frame, alleged big dick.
Other successes include a 6'2 ogre with insane frame. A 6'2 MTN with a 7 incher- He obviously get's nothing online but in social circles a good amount of women have ended up trying to sleep with him, Autistic but he's very agreeable and feminismmaxes so he unintentionally has a social circle of lonely women around him. And 1 5'8 HTN with a big cock, declined as height became more important but did very well in school and LTRs well now. and 1 5'8 Gymmaxxed extroverted HTN/Chadlite. 6'2 Gymmamxed HTN and 6'3 Chad with small cock who's now a heartthrob actor
Rough Celebrity SMV score examples, it's hard to compare elite physiques and faces for appeal for example
Ronaldo = +3face +2body + 1height= 6
Cavill = 4face+2body +1 height = 7
Hemsworth = 3.5face + 2or3body + 1.67height = 7-8 minimum
Dolph Lundgren = 3+face 2or3body + 2.33height = 7.33-9.33
Chico,
luckyblue = 4 face +0 or 1 body + 2 height = 6-7
Di caprio = 4face +1 body =5
Brad pitt = 4 face + 2body = 6
Michael B jordan = 2 face + 2 body = 4 (stop coping he is good looking, soft features, appeal, harmony and frauds the jaw with facial hair just fine)
Cilian Murphy = 3face -0.67height + 1 body= 3.33
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