Users who mogs me

View attachment 3935906 at natural head tilt, yeah your ramus inclines really hard jaw angle would ascend really hard - but the issue isn't really downgrowth its just inward gonions - which is an easier fix with surgery (no bimax needed)

you could do genio, since you are a bit recessed
Yes inward gonions kills my looks and my chin is recessed so basically you are right
 
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CD is right (mostly) on the scale that should be used, you are a high 6 to flat 7 - its just ratings are so inflated nowadays

it happens to me too, if you place me on the scale that should be used, i am well into a 7
If you say so you maybe right but every people's rate me lhtn or mhtn even some rate me mtn so idk im mindfuck
 
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If you say so you maybe right but every people's rate me lhtn or mhtn even some rate me mtn so idk im mindfuck
Any rate below htn is really really delusional. With that eye area - ratios - philtrum lips nose zone you cant be less than that. I’ll say cl is a generous rate but It's also possible. I'm HTN too, so I'm interested in giving you rates that are objective. I'll even compare you with my face. Max is solid chadlite
 
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Any rate below htn is really really delusional. With that eye area - ratios - philtrum lips nose zone you cant be less than that. I’ll say cl is a generous rate but It's also possible. I'm HTN too, so I'm interested in giving you rates that are objective. I'll even compare you with my face. Max is solid chadlite
first user i have seen on this forum who actually uses a scale, and doesn't underrate

you use a scale that is similar to the maths that i use to score people - but it doesn't usually align with what people give in incel/bp/looksmaxxing spaces because ppl underrate
 
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If you say so you maybe right but every people's rate me lhtn or mhtn even some rate me mtn so idk im mindfuck
in western society you are probably 1/50~
for males under the age of say 30
 
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Any rate below htn is really really delusional. With that eye area - ratios - philtrum lips nose zone you cant be less than that. I’ll say cl is a generous rate but It's also possible. I'm HTN too, so I'm interested in giving you rates that are objective. I'll even compare you with my face. Max is solid chadlite
Okay interesting would you say cl is op 1% then?
And how do you rate people like zeta, archie or derb then?
 
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first user i have seen on this forum who actually uses a scale, and doesn't underrate

you use a scale that is similar to the maths that i use to score people - but it doesn't usually align with what people give in incel/bp/looksmaxxing spaces because ppl underrate
People here are envious and delusional, they constantly underrate not giving objective based on harmony score ratings. Once you are you are ok with your face - smv and you have no regrets, just the desire to improve a little more, you would give objective rates
 
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Okay interesting would you say cl is op 1% then?
And how do you rate people like zeta, archie or derb then?
Archie is chad . Zeta and derb are htns professional frauders
 
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Archie is chad . Zeta and derb are htns professional frauders
Agree for archie but I think zeta and derb are CL's unfrauded because they can't fraud bones and ratios
 
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People here are envious and delusional, they constantly underrate not giving objective based on harmony score ratings. Once you are you are ok with your face - smv and you have no regrets, just the desire to improve a little more, you would give objective rates
i need to work on my SMV
my physique is slightly above average because it has good proportions and i am not skinny or skinny fat, just lean

but i am 5'8 (brutal) - planning to wear lifts to 5'10 so it isn't really a nerf, just not a bonus

anything else you would reccomend for SMV?

i make decent money for my age, but my family isn't that rich
i have a top 0.0001% dih ( this isn't even a joke 😭 )
i have kinda NPC style tbh, but i am upgrading it atm
i have a good social group
NT (mostly, just a bit socially awkard)
 
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i need to work on my SMV
my physique is slightly above average because it has good proportions and i am not skinny or skinny fat, just lean

but i am 5'8 (brutal) - planning to wear lifts to 5'10 so it isn't really a nerf, just not a bonus

anything else you would reccomend for SMV?

i make decent money for my age, but my family isn't that rich
i have a top 0.0001% dih ( this isn't even a joke 😭 )
i have kinda NPC style tbh, but i am upgrading it atm
i have a good social group
NT (mostly, just a bit socially awkard)
Yeah unfortunately a lot of work on smv is made up by height
 
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Archie is chad . Zeta and derb are htns professional frauders
archie actually is objectively lower (from what i have taken him at in terms of undistorted photos - i would say in his videos he looks better because lens distortion actually improves his ratios)


Archie


also a bit of a miss with derb and zeta

zeta looks better again with distortion because he has an ultra wide face

archies angularity is insane, his dimorphism is above average (mostly because of his angularity, since bone projection is quite a big factor in dimorphism)

his misc is really good except the ear flaring and strabismus, and i suppose the eyebrow colouring could be better

his harmony actually isn't very good, his side profile harmony is below average, and front only slightly above
 
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Yeah unfortunately a lot of work on smv is made up by height
yup, oh well 🤷 lmao
i am actually still growing so maybe i will make it to 5'9 if i am lucky, or if not a strong 5'8
 
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archie actually is objectively lower (from what i have taken him at in terms of undistorted photos - i would say in his videos he looks better because lens distortion actually improves his ratios)


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also a bit of a miss with derb and zeta

zeta looks better again with distortion because he has an ultra wide face
Only big flaw visible to me is esr and side, still in the low chad zone to me tbh, def not chadlite

Zeta and derb are really really solid htns I didn't say they were ugly, they were obviously good looking guys, but chadlite would be a dishonest rate, maybe derb on a good day is cl but idk in some videos he look incredibly choopped and cookie mogs him
 
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i need to work on my SMV
my physique is slightly above average because it has good proportions and i am not skinny or skinny fat, just lean

but i am 5'8 (brutal) - planning to wear lifts to 5'10 so it isn't really a nerf, just not a bonus

anything else you would reccomend for SMV?

i make decent money for my age, but my family isn't that rich
i have a top 0.0001% dih ( this isn't even a joke 😭 )
i have kinda NPC style tbh, but i am upgrading it atm
i have a good social group
NT (mostly, just a bit socially awkard)
Yeah unfortunately a lot of work on smv is made up by height
Btw I have a question.
I am nt but Idk how to start conversations you know like if people speak to me I respond but idk what I can't say if I want to start the conversation you know.
 
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Only big flaw visible to me is esr and side, still in the low chad zone to me tbh, def not chadlite

Zeta and derb are really really solid htns I didn't say they were ugly, they were obviously good looking guys, but chadlite would be a dishonest rate
eh this is a bit of a miss (in my opinion) overall

but i think your rates of users on this forum are good, and tend to be true to the original intended scale

tbh, it doesn't really matter what rate someone gives you, because everyone has an intended scale in mind
 
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Btw I have a question.
I am nt but Idk how to start conversations you know like if people speak to me I respond but idk what I can't say if I want to start the conversation you know.
You gotta be low inhib low thinking high charisma, u have to train it it’s habitual construction, confidence is the only thing u can fake
 
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