Using aromatase inhibitors may not be an ideal way to increase height in puberty

[Deleted member 16220]

1) Estrogen masculinizes the brain in puberty, not testosterone.

2) Estrogen not only ossifies the bone ending it's growth at whatever length it is, but also hardens it. Those who use AI in puberty have weaker bones all over their entire body.

My dog who was neutered as a male grew twice the size of a normal Boston Terrier, but he jumped one time, fell, and broke his leg at a height of only one foot in the air. Weaker bones from lack of ossification. Many of you underestimate just how weak non formed bones are. Remember the maxillary and frontal, parietal, and temporal bones of the skull are initially SOFT and can be moved with traditional head binding cloth until they harden later. If they never harden they remain a health hazard for life.


3) Barrel shaped chest due to extended growth of the ribs, which keep growing as well, just like the legs.


All of these are genuine reasons if you are using a dose that would actually do anything (to give you your desired EXTENDED growth in puberty, AI doesn't promote growth factors, only delays bone formation and plate fusion).

 

[Orc]

there isn't even any evidence that supplementation helps people grow past the predicted height based on their parents/ancestry unless they have some growth disorder.

 

[gribsufer1]

there isn't even any evidence that supplementation helps people grow past the predicted height based on their parents/ancestry unless they have some growth disorder.

ais definetly do that at the correct dosages

 

[gribsufer1]

1) Estrogen masculinizes the brain in puberty, not testosterone.

2) Estrogen not only ossifies the bone ending it's growth at whatever length it is, but also hardens it. Those who use AI in puberty have weaker bones all over their entire body.

My dog who was neutered as a male grew twice the size of a normal Boston Terrier, but he jumped one time, fell, and broke his leg at a height of only one foot in the air. Weaker bones from lack of ossification. Many of you underestimate just how weak non formed bones are. Remember the maxillary and frontal, parietal, and temporal bones of the skull are initially SOFT and can be moved with traditional head binding cloth until they harden later. If they never harden they remain a health hazard for life.


3) Barrel shaped chest due to extended growth of the ribs, which keep growing as well, just like the legs.


All of these are genuine reasons if you are using a dose that would actually do anything (to give you your desired EXTENDED growth in puberty, AI doesn't promote growth factors, only delays bone formation and plate fusion).

small doses of aromasin inhibit estrogen nearly as well as high doses

 

[Ragnar]

there isn't even any evidence that supplementation helps people grow past the predicted height based on their parents/ancestry unless they have some growth disorder.

how can even know your true predicted height? doctors get it wrong all the time

 

[Osie]

1) Estrogen masculinizes the brain in puberty, not testosterone.

2) Estrogen not only ossifies the bone ending it's growth at whatever length it is, but also hardens it. Those who use AI in puberty have weaker bones all over their entire body.

My dog who was neutered as a male grew twice the size of a normal Boston Terrier, but he jumped one time, fell, and broke his leg at a height of only one foot in the air. Weaker bones from lack of ossification. Many of you underestimate just how weak non formed bones are. Remember the maxillary and frontal, parietal, and temporal bones of the skull are initially SOFT and can be moved with traditional head binding cloth until they harden later. If they never harden they remain a health hazard for life.


3) Barrel shaped chest due to extended growth of the ribs, which keep growing as well, just like the legs.


All of these are genuine reasons if you are using a dose that would actually do anything (to give you your desired EXTENDED growth in puberty, AI doesn't promote growth factors, only delays bone formation and plate fusion).

You literally said everything known about AI'S. Everyone knows AI'S doesn't actually contribute to growth, only prolongs it. It might even slow your growth down. By the way, the vast majority of people will never face any issues from AI'S since at the most, it'll only lower e2 by like 50% in most males, and that's with maximum dosage. And yes, your bones will be weaker, but it's proven in studies that you can supplement that with higher doses of vitamin D3, calcium, and K2.

I've never heard anyone deal with these side effects from AI usage to be honest. People don't use a high enough dose and for anywhere near long enough to cause this sort of issues.

 

[nukenasty]

everyone points at estrogen but surely test effects plate closure as well? eunuchs were famously tall but that's cutting off a lot of normal processes in general I guess...still worth considering

 

[thereallegend]

small doses of aromasin inhibit estrogen nearly as well as high doses

No higher doses inhibit even more. You gotta be careful. I'm actually thinking of lowering my dose to 6.25 mg each day from from 12.5 mg each day because I have no libido like at all.

 

[Deleted member 23219]

That´s why you usually stack them with GH to avoid most of the side effects.

 

[gribsufer1]

No higher doses inhibit even more. You gotta be careful. I'm actually thinking of lowering my dose to 6.25 mg each day from from 12.5 mg each day because I have no libido like at all.

lower libido is actually a side effect of thd aromasin itself not a result of reduced estrogen

 

[thereallegend]

lower libido is actually a side effect of thd aromasin itself not a result of reduced estrogen

There's studies of people having lower libido on Ais period. like in general

 

[gribsufer1]

There's studies of people having lower libido on Ais period. like in general

idk man ray peaters say lower doses block similiar amount of estrogen withoit gettimg lower libido, lower libido is only a side of low e whrn its under what ur body needs no?

 

[thereallegend]

idk man ray peaters say lower doses block similiar amount of estrogen withoit gettimg lower libido, lower libido is only a side of low e whrn its under what ur body needs no?

maybe i should read the ray peat forum more

 

[ALP]

idk man ray peaters say lower doses block similiar amount of estrogen withoit gettimg lower libido, lower libido is only a side of low e whrn its under what ur body needs no?

maybe i should read the ray peat forum more

I was taking 6,25 mg every other day.Bro ı recently finished an aromasin box and thinking about getting another one.

Do you think ı should ıncrease the dosage?

 

[gribsufer1]

I was taking 6,25 mg every other day.Bro ı recently finished an aromasin box and thinking about getting another one.

Do you think ı should ıncrease the dosage?

not really the more you take the less ROI there is

 

[Deleted member 25413]

wait you can move your frontal bone???? BRO INFORM ME ASAP I need thi so hard how do I do this

 

[ALP]

ROI

What s ROI?

 

[CalulArgintiu59]

That´s why you usually stack them with GH to avoid most of the side effects.

Fr, I don't think ai can help people get past predicted height by much, ai+hgh is the way to go, ai could for sure help, but without hgh it is not that good

 

[2d v2]

1) Estrogen masculinizes the brain in puberty, not testosterone.

2) Estrogen not only ossifies the bone ending it's growth at whatever length it is, but also hardens it. Those who use AI in puberty have weaker bones all over their entire body.

My dog who was neutered as a male grew twice the size of a normal Boston Terrier, but he jumped one time, fell, and broke his leg at a height of only one foot in the air. Weaker bones from lack of ossification. Many of you underestimate just how weak non formed bones are. Remember the maxillary and frontal, parietal, and temporal bones of the skull are initially SOFT and can be moved with traditional head binding cloth until they harden later. If they never harden they remain a health hazard for life.


3) Barrel shaped chest due to extended growth of the ribs, which keep growing as well, just like the legs.


All of these are genuine reasons if you are using a dose that would actually do anything (to give you your desired EXTENDED growth in puberty, AI doesn't promote growth factors, only delays bone formation and plate fusion).

estrogen doesnt masculinize the brain, probably faggot sponsored bot

 

[Deleted member 16220]

estrogen doesnt masculinize the brain, probably faggot sponsored bot

"Estradiol binds to the estrogen receptors in the brain, activating masculinizing genes".

You're wrong. I'm right.

 

[MentalistKebab]

Tbf your dog has weaker bones because it doesnt have the healthy estrogen levels.

But a guy who has low E level between 16-18 but normal levels after that, will have the same bon denisty with other guys after his 20s

 

[2d v2]

"Estradiol binds to the estrogen receptors in the brain, activating masculinizing genes".

You're wrong. I'm right.

you think im gonna trst some fucked up loopy study by some liberal university? Give me a break dude, all media is fucking trash now adays. Testosterone gives men the desire to go out and chase pussy, and it gives women the desire to chase men. So the production of test masculinizes the brain, but test converts to e2, so thats probably what its talking about

yeah crashing your E2 levels is downright insane, but dont start the thread with "estrogen masclinizes the brain" because high estrogen means weak bones and feminine features.

i think i grew taller because i had milk, while still having high t and working out a lot. So its a thin line and balance, but for sure GH and test production is higher in those who do fighting sports.

 

[Deleted member 16220]

you think im gonna trst some fucked up loopy study by some liberal university? Give me a break dude, all media is fucking trash now adays. Testosterone gives men the desire to go out and chase pussy, and it gives women the desire to chase men. So the production of test masculinizes the brain, but test converts to e2, so thats probably what its talking about

yeah crashing your E2 levels is downright insane, but dont start the thread with "estrogen masclinizes the brain" because high estrogen means weak bones and feminine features.

i think i grew taller because i had milk, while still having high t and working out a lot. So its a thin line and balance, but for sure GH and test production is higher in those who do fighting sports.

Admit you're wrong like a man instead of typing a long essay, it's extremely feminine behavior you are exhibiting. I must've had higher prenatal estrogen in the brain than you.

 

[2d v2]

Admit you're wrong like a man instead of typing a long essay, it's extremely feminine behavior you are exhibiting. I must've had higher prenatal estrogen in the brain than you.

Testosterone is the biggest masculinizer in the body, universitys literally try to trick kids into being lbgt these days man. Ur actually wrong

 

[fyte]

1) Estrogen masculinizes the brain in puberty, not testosterone.

2) Estrogen not only ossifies the bone ending it's growth at whatever length it is, but also hardens it. Those who use AI in puberty have weaker bones all over their entire body.

My dog who was neutered as a male grew twice the size of a normal Boston Terrier, but he jumped one time, fell, and broke his leg at a height of only one foot in the air. Weaker bones from lack of ossification. Many of you underestimate just how weak non formed bones are. Remember the maxillary and frontal, parietal, and temporal bones of the skull are initially SOFT and can be moved with traditional head binding cloth until they harden later. If they never harden they remain a health hazard for life.


3) Barrel shaped chest due to extended growth of the ribs, which keep growing as well, just like the legs.


All of these are genuine reasons if you are using a dose that would actually do anything (to give you your desired EXTENDED growth in puberty, AI doesn't promote growth factors, only delays bone formation and plate fusion).

if you grow with it they’ll close anyways, those cells have a growth capacity and when they reach that the plate “fuses“