Vaush vs Wheat Waffles Debate Stream

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The 1st time Wheat Waffles discussed gays on YouTube!
 
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Lmao vaush what a fat disgusting Jewish pig.
 
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Wheat talks about bisexual women maxing in the vid. Watch!
 
dn watch but vaush and destiny always win debates due to sheer normie delusion + ploughing through the other side's arguments. "nope, i disagree with that". "nope, thats not a source cos i say so". "lalala not listening".
it's actually impressive.
 
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Two worlds collide.
 
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you can easily win the debate by saying

"Vaush, you are famous rich and smart from a good family brought up in Beverly Hills yet you are still a truecel who had to date a 0/10"


And that's a wrap nothing more to debate
 
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dn watch but vaush and destiny always win debates due to sheer normie delusion + ploughing through the other side's arguments. "nope, i disagree with that". "nope, thats not a source cos i say so". "lalala not listening".
it's actually impressive.

Sounds like you’re the one who isn’t listening.

They deliver logical and evidence-based arguments.

Their values are the reasons they suck (to us).

correct logic + strong evidence + values we disagree on = unpersuasive argument

This is why liberals and conservatives never agree even when they argue with rational reasoning.
 
you can easily win the debate by saying

"Vaush, you are famous rich and smart from a good family brought up in Beverly Hills yet you are still a truecel who had to date a 0/10"


And that's a wrap nothing more to debate


JFL at thinking ad hominem wins the debate. It may win over an audience of brainlets but doesn’t win the actual debate.

He didn’t “have” to date a “0/10”. He dates her because he chose to.
 
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you can easily win the debate by saying

"Vaush, you are famous rich and smart from a good family brought up in Beverly Hills yet you are still a truecel who had to date a 0/10"


And that's a wrap nothing more to debate

his girl is a -10/10
 
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JFL at thinking ad hominem wins the debate. It may win over an audience of brainlets but doesn’t win the actual debate.

He didn’t “have” to date a “0/10”. He dates her because he chose to.
that's not an ad hominem

it proves the black pill
 
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that's not an ad hominem

But it can be used to shut down any argument he makes regardless of the evidence.

He lays down a claim; “Cope Vaush, your gf is a landwhale.”

He brings up a study; “Cope Vaush, your gf is bloatmaxed.”

He uses logic to construct a line of reasoning; “Cope Vaush, your gf is a lard bucket.”



it proves the black pill

You ignored this:

He didn’t “have” to date a “0/10”. He dates her because he chose to.

The only thing that matters is whether he got what he wanted in relationships. If he did, it doesn’t support the blackpill.

The blackpill is about subhuman males being unable to obtain sex, intimacy, and relationships that make them truly fulfilled.

Subhuman males can obtain sex, intimacy, and relationships via escortmaxing and betabuxing. But it’s blackpill because the relationships don’t fulfill them.

As long as the man is happy in the relationship, no matter how low-SMV the woman is, he is ascended.
 
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But it can be used to shut down any argument he makes regardless of the evidence.

He lays down a claim; “Cope Vaush, your gf is femcel.”

He brings up a study; “Cope Vaush, your gf is bloatmaxed.”

He uses logic to construct a line of reasoning; “Cope Vaush, your gf is a lard bucket.”
yeah that would be an ad hominem

but when he is arguing about looks being the main thing in attraction and vaush disagrees bringing up this is not an ad hominem
 
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Does wheat waffle dislike gays or something?
 
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but when he is arguing about looks being the main thing in attraction and vaush disagrees bringing up this is not an ad hominem

It actually supports the opposite.

At least 1 of the 2 must be true:
  • Her looks aren’t that important to Vaush. This means there are people out there (such as Vaush) for whom looks aren’t the most important.
  • Vaush genuinely finds her attractive. This means that there are people out there who have preferences that deviate significantly from conventional beauty standards, therefore beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
 
jfl if you think we're watching any of that
 
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It actually supports the opposite.

At least 1 of the 2 must be true:
  • Her looks aren’t that important to Vaush. This means there are people out there (such as Vaush) for whom looks aren’t the most important.
  • Vaush genuinely finds her attractive. This means that there are people out there who have preferences that deviate significantly from conventional beauty standards, therefore beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
that is just him coping and gaslighting

he is a truecel who couldn't get better than a 0/10 as a famous millionaire
 
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he is a truecel who couldn't get better than a 0/10 as a famous millionaire

But he objectively isn’t a truecel.

It would back up the blackpill if Vaush were a balding Indian manlet. Then you can say, “You’re a truecel who only managed to slay a landwhale by becoming a millionaire.”

But Vaush isn’t a balding Indian manlet. Vaush is average-looking.

No one at Vaush’s looks level (and at his money level) HAS to date an obese woman. VAUSH CHOSE HER.
 
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But he objectively isn’t a truecel.

It would back up the blackpill if Vaush were a balding Indian manlet. Then you can say, “You’re a truecel who only managed to slay a landwhale by becoming a millionaire.”

But Vaush is not a balding Indian manlet.

No one at Vaush’s looks level (and at his money level) HAS to date an obese woman. VAUSH CHOSE HER.
cope he is a fat incel

he is also smart which makes him even more unattractive
 
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no matter how low-SMV the woman is, he is ascended.
fuck no lmfao if you actually believe this you need to leave this forum and join incels.is

actual ascension is actually looking good and getting a minimum 50th percentile white girl an exception can be made for a gl ethnic girl

 
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you can easily win the debate by saying

"Vaush, you are famous rich and smart from a good family brought up in Beverly Hills yet you are still a truecel who had to date a 0/10"


And that's a wrap nothing more to debate

Gay if you wouldn't
 
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fuck no lmfao if you actually believe this you need to leave this forum and join incels.is

actual ascension is actually looking good and getting a minimum 50th percentile white girl an exception can be made for a gl ethnic girl


Arbitrary standards.

A man has ascended if he goes from unhappy and single to happy and in-a-relationship/slaying.

If he’s happy, he ascended.

Which means the minimum looks threshold (or race requirement) is whatever each individual male needs in order to have satisfying relationships. If Joe would be happy with a 5+/10 White girl, that’s what he needs in order to ascend. If George would be happy with a 2+/10 Asian girl, that’s what he needs in order to ascend.

It’s fucking retarded to deem your threshold for ascension as what random dwellers online say it should be. “I got an average-looking Indian girlfriend and am happy in my relationship, but I still haven’t ascended, because guys on Looksmax.org say I need at least a 5/10 White girl.”
 
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Arbitrary standards.

A man has ascended if he goes from unhappy and single to happy and in-a-relationship/slaying.

If he’s happy, he ascended.

Which means the minimum looks threshold (or race requirement) is whatever each individual male needs in order to have satisfying relationships. If Joe would be happy with a 5+/10 White girl, that’s what he needs in order to ascend. If George would be happy with a 2+/10 Asian girl, that’s what he needs in order to ascend.

It’s fucking retarded to deem your threshold for ascension as what random dwellers online say it should be. “I got an average-looking Indian girlfriend and am happy in my relationship, but I still haven’t ascended, because guys on Looksmax.org say I need at least a 5/10 White girl.”
Basically find your looksmatch.

The original point of the blackpill was how hard/nearly impossible it is for ugly men to date their looksmatch.

it’s descended into some Chad circle jerk and 16 year olds regurgitating “cope”.
 
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