Verteporfin = unlimited donor for hair transplant = hair loss cure

[Tasty17]

First trial was successful. Most of the donor hair was regrown after it was extracted.

The difference between 0.32 and 0.4 in humans is huge. Imagine a higher dose, in pigs, 1.0 resulted best. The doctor suspects, the spots that haven't regrown, weren't properly exposed to the drug. The effect is marked by hyperpigmentation.

Future:

- Try this on old HT scars to regrow donor
- A higher dose
- A way to expose the scalp tissue better and uniformly to the drug

The document with explanation how it works and pics:

Vert doc for doctors

Verteporfin Research Document Paper Outline Overview of Verteporfin Details of Scarring Mechanism and Verteporfin’s Ability Summary of Pig/Mice Studies via Dr. Michael Longaker How This Can be Applied to Hair Restoration Surgeries Overview of Dr. Barghouthi’s Trial Overview of Dr. Bloxham’s Tr...

docs.google.com

If you have an upcoming HT, cancel it ASAP or make your doctor use Verteporfin. It's already FDA approved and can be used off-label.

 

[lepo2317]

Yeah, now you only have to pay hundreds of thousands dollars and getting tens of HT's to have full head of hair. If that's what you call hairloss cure, then I don't know what to say.

 

[MoggerGaston]

1. Further, verteporfin would allow patients to avoid finasteride post-procedure, as there would be significantly less risk in shaving one’s head should they continue to bald.

 

[Tasty17]

Yeah, now you only have to pay hundreds of thousands dollars and getting tens of HT's to have full head of hair. If that's what you call hairloss cure, then I don't know what to say.

Nah fam, go to Turkey, do as much grafts as possible, then get your hairline fixed by an expert with 2000 grafts. Better than being a bald mofo.

 

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[Artemis]

First trial was successful. Most of the donor hair was regrown after it was extracted.

The difference between 0.32 and 0.4 in humans is huge. Imagine a higher dose, in pigs, 1.0 resulted best. The doctor suspects, the spots that haven't regrown, weren't properly exposed to the drug. The effect is marked by hyperpigmentation.

Future:

- Try this on old HT scars to regrow donor
- A higher dose
- A way to expose the scalp tissue better and uniformly to the drug

The document with explanation how it works and pics:

Vert doc for doctors

Verteporfin Research Document Paper Outline Overview of Verteporfin Details of Scarring Mechanism and Verteporfin’s Ability Summary of Pig/Mice Studies via Dr. Michael Longaker How This Can be Applied to Hair Restoration Surgeries Overview of Dr. Barghouthi’s Trial Overview of Dr. Bloxham’s Tr...

docs.google.com

If you have an upcoming HT, cancel it ASAP or make your doctor use Verteporfin. It's already FDA approved and can be used off-label.

Your pictures literally show that the hairs grow AROUND the extraction site in FUE, lol

Nothing grows in the scar even after treatment.

 

[Tasty17]

We need more doctors to participate in this and more data, to determine the best dose, concentration and way of application for optimal regrowth.

 

[Tasty17]

Your pictures literally show that the hairs grow AROUND the extraction site in FUE, lol

Nothing grows in the scar even after treatment.

Obviously the doctor knows where he extracted and posted pictures accordingly from the extraction spots. The newly born hair is thinner because it hasn't turned terminal yet. Also, you can see the hyperpigmentation (dark brown) where Verteporfin has his effect on and the hair at these spots are regrown.

 

[Tasty17]

Your pictures literally show that the hairs grow AROUND the extraction site in FUE, lol

Nothing grows in the scar even after treatment.

Perhaps the pig model is better to explain you the effect of the pathway they target after 180 days.

 

[Artemis]

Obviously the doctor knows where he extracted and posted pictures accordingly from the extraction spots. The newly born hair is thinner because it hasn't turned terminal yet. Also, you can see the hyperpigmentation (dark brown) where Verteporfin has his effect on and the hair at these spots are regrown.

In the pics, it LITERALLY shows 2 hairs which grew AROUND the FUE scar... you don't need to be a researcher to figure that whatever growth the drug stimulated, it was NOT EXTRACTED HAIR REGROWTH. But some new hairs just sprang around the scar.

Same with the pig: it just looks pig's hair grew longer and covered the site. It grew AROUND the wound, not inside of it though. I can c sth happening in the wound too, but not very impressive.

 

[Tasty17]

In the pics, it LITERALLY shows 2 hairs which grew AROUND the FUE scar... you don't need to be a researcher to figure that whatever growth the drug stimulated, it was NOT EXTRACTED HAIR REGROWTH. But some new hairs just sprang around the scar.

Same with the pig: it just looks pig's hair grew longer and covered the site. It grew AROUND the wound, not inside of it though.

Maybe you can see it here better. This is 3 month mark. The doctor has witnessed this effect on most extraction points. Verteporfin works by injecting it once, and never again, right after the extraction into the punch hole.

 

[Tasty17]

Donor Hair Healing Study With Verteporfin By Dr. Barghouthi – Follicle Thought

This page will chronicle the verteporfin experimental pilot study being undertaken by Dr. Taleb Barghouthi of the Vertex Hair Clinic. The purpose of the study is to observe the effects of verteporfin injected into FUE surgical extraction wounds. Decreased scarring and/or donor hair follicle...

folliclethought.com

 

[Tasty17]

 

[Tasty17]

From what Dr. Longaker mentioned, the reason humans scar in the first place is because it is faster to heal this way since regeneration is more complex and takes longer to complete. Think about scars as a natural sealant or band-aid that’s there to quickly close and protect your wound.

This sort of blocks the scarring pathway, if you inject it once and never again right after injury.

Verteporfin won’t work after injecting it on top of a scar that you already have. You will need to remove it “surgically” and then apply verteporfin when the wound is fresh right after, to block the signals that triggers scarring. This way, normal skin structures and sebaceous gland and hair follicles can regrow. This is why all of this is still in testing.

OFFICIAL Verteporfin Human Trial *OFFICIAL THREAD

As you know, yesterday I interviewed @DrTBarghouthi to date, Dr. Barghouthi is the only physician testing Verteporfin in the field of surgical hair restoration. Verteporfin is a drug that prevents the pathway to scarring, specifically Engrailed-1 fibroblasts. Scars lack hair and sebaceous glands,...

www.hairrestorationnetwork.com

 

[khvirgin]

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whats that supposed to mean lol
less risk?

 

[MoggerGaston]

whats that supposed to mean lol
less risk?

worst possible advice

 

[BucketCrab]

Yeah, now you only have to pay hundreds of thousands dollars and getting tens of HT's to have full head of hair. If that's what you call hairloss cure, then I don't know what to say.

Wouldn't say it's a 'cure' yet, but it opens the possibility of restoring any man's hair, even those who have NW6+ and are generally considered too far gone.

That being said yeah, it sounds exceptionally expensive and time consuming. I'd consider something to be a legit CURE if:

• It works on the vast majority of men
• It works at any stage of hair loss
• It does not lose potency over time.
• It has minimal side effects, or a very low chance for moderate (non life altering) side effects.
• It is reasonably cheap.
• It does not require long to use/apply.

 

[Tasty17]

Wouldn't say it's a 'cure' yet, but it opens the possibility of restoring any man's hair, even those who have NW6+ and are generally considered too far gone.

That being said yeah, it sounds exceptionally expensive and time consuming. I'd consider something to be a legit CURE if:

• It works on the vast majority of men, at any stage of hair loss, without losing potency over time.
• It has minimal side effects, or a very low chance for moderate (non life altering) side effects.
• It is cheap and does not require long to use/apply.

It would be cheap in Turkey. Just work like a rat for a year and save.

 

[chigoha]

"hairloss cure"
"first trial was successful"

 

[Tasty17]

"hairloss cure"
"first trial was successful"

You can get it now.

 

[chigoha]

You can get it now.

just be a lab rat theory

 

[Tasty17]

just be a lab rat theory

The fuck? Verteporfin has been approved since April 12, 2000. It's safe and a one-time injection.

 

[chigoha]

The fuck? Verteporfin has been approved since April 12, 2000. It's safe and a one-time injection.

can you do it months after your transplant or you must do it directly ?

 

[Tasty17]

can you do it months after your transplant or you must do it directly ?

You have to do it once the moment the injury occurs, so you signal the body to skip the scarring process, then it starts to heal it properly without scars.

 

[Tasty17]

Potential against scarring[edit]​

Verteporfin is FDA approved.[9] Verteporfin is a YAP pathway inhibitor.[10] Verteporfin displays a wide spectrum of anti-fibrotic properties.[5] Verteporfin prevents fibrosis in several human organs.[10] Verteporfin was first noted as a drug that blocked cell proliferation in the liver.[10] It is an inhibitor of fibrosis in patients with persistent cholestasis.[10] Research has highlighted that verteporfin decreased expression of fibrotic genes in fibroblasts collected from nodules of patients suffering from Dupuytren's contracture.[5] In 2018 information revealed verteporfin stopped fibrosis in the lung.[10] Verteporfin is a marketed drug with a good safety profile.[4] Physicians use verteporfin off-label.[4][8] In 2018, physicians described the off-label usage for Peyronie's disease as an interesting step.[5]

In 2021, scientists tested verteporfin to reveal if the drug would prevent scar tissue in skin.[11] The testing of verteporfin on humans cleft lips was due to occur in late 2021.[12]

 

[Tasty17]

Imagine, Surgery Without a Scar (Published 2021)

A new study shows that a 20-year-old drug prevents scarring in mice. If it works on humans, it could change the lives of those with disfiguring wounds.

www.nytimes.com

 

[CursedOne]

people cry about hairloss. once you notice the slightest hairloss, you should get on finasteride as quickly as possible. thats the only way to prevent hairloss. better to get on finasteride even BEFORE hairloss happens. finasteride or dut should be mandatory for people who hit age 20. My hairloss didint happen before I hit 21.
And people who already lost their hair should get on finasteride AND use minox for maximum hair regrowth. Thats the only way to not only prevent hair but also get hair back. every hair folicile counts boyos

 

[Tasty17]

people cry about hairloss. once you notice the slightest hairloss, you should get on finasteride as quickly as possible. thats the only way to prevent hairloss. better to get on finasteride even BEFORE hairloss happens. finasteride or dut should be mandatory for people who hit age 20. My hairloss didint happen before I hit 21.
And people who already lost their hair should get on finasteride AND use minox for maximum hair regrowth. Thats the only way to not only prevent hair but also get hair back. every hair folicile counts boyos

Finasteride cucks you. Next.

 

[Tasty17]

 

[CursedOne]

Finasteride cucks you. Next.

muh fin is cope, muh dut is cope:

Identical Twins, but only one took Dutasteride

 

[Tasty17]

muh fin is cope, muh dut is cope:

Identical Twins, but only one took Dutasteride

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No one said it doesn't work but it cucks you. So skip. I have Verteporfin now, I will max my DHT.

 

[CursedOne]

No one said it doesn't work but it cucks you. So skip. I have Verteporfin now, I will max my DHT.

good you have verteporfin now? May I burn your ass hairs so can wee see if the hair will grow back or not?

 

[Tasty17]

good you have verteporfin now? May I burn your ass hairs so can wee see if the hair will grow back or not?

Stay objective.

 

[CursedOne]

Stay objective.

okay, tell me how you got it and how are you going to use it? its only for scar related issues. did you have a ht?

 

[Tasty17]

okay, tell me how you got it and how are you going to use it? its only for scar related issues. did you have a ht?

I will get a hair transplant next year and make my doctor use it. Until then, the method will be even more optimized. Right now, I am saving my money. So should you and and anyone else suffering from this.

 

[Tasty17]

 

[Chadpreetmaybe]

Great bro, ignore the bald incels in chat. I am following this from very long and this is really a great deal keeping aside pyrilutamide.

I am not bald yet i am strong a NW1 but a little bit of diffuse thinning. So my plan is to wait for some more pyrilutamide research and then I'll probably start using it in 2 years.

Till that time verteporfin will have great clinical as well as anecdotal data, I'll just go for a heavy transplant and use pyri + verte

 

[Tasty17]

Great bro, ignore the bald incels in chat. I am following this from very long and this is really a great deal keeping aside pyrilutamide.

I am not bald yet i am strong a NW1 but a little bit of diffuse thinning. So my plan is to wait for some more pyrilutamide research and then I'll probably start using it in 2 years.

Till that time verteporfin will have great clinical as well as anecdotal data, I'll just go for a heavy transplant and use pyri + verte

Finally not a doomer here.

 

[Realism]

I said it before and I'll say it here, if anyone finds a turkish doctor willing to do this ill be a test rat

 

[Tasty17]

I said it before and I'll say it here, if anyone finds a turkish doctor willing to do this ill be a test rat

Just ask, some HT docs already ready to do it. Dr. Barghouti doesn't mind if docs call him and ask for protocol.

 

[Realism]

Just ask, some HT docs already ready to do it. Dr. Barghouti doesn't mind if docs call him and ask for protocol.

Yeah I'll do that.
I'm wondering though how long it's gonna take to experiment with different dosages that might be more effective, and even how about transdermal application with DMSO, or even micro needling?
Need to have an established application protocol first.

 

[Tasty17]

Yeah I'll do that.
I'm wondering though how long it's gonna take to experiment with different dosages that might be more effective, and even how about transdermal application with DMSO, or even micro needling?
Need to have an established application protocol first.

Yes, finding the best protocol is high priority now.

 

[Kroker]

I will get a hair transplant next year and make my doctor use it. Until then, the method will be even more optimized. Right now, I am saving my money. So should you and and anyone else suffering from this.

Are you aware that even after a HT, the DHT will attack non DHT resistant hair follicles?

People get fin prescribed after their Hair transplants...

 

[Tasty17]

Are you aware that even after a HT, the DHT will attack non DHT resistant hair follicles?

People get fin prescribed after their Hair transplants...

They get it prescribed so their remaining hair stays. However, I have never seen someone who is bald in his donor zone. Those follicles are DHT resistant. All of your hair is always exposed to DHT. Some benefit from it (body hair), some don’t (scalp hair) and other hair isn’t affected (donor zone).

 

[mvp2v1]

How good is this though? Sometimes when I look at HT afters it kind of looks unnatural...

 

[CursedOne]

How good is this though? Sometimes when I look at HT afters it kind of looks unnatural...

Hts where U need 3000+ grafts will never Look good for the Most part because there wont be the needed density for a normal look

 

[Tasty17]

Hts where U need 3000+ grafts will never Look good for the Most part because there wont ne the needed density for a normal look

Keep using your Finasteride then.

 

[CursedOne]

Keep using your Finasteride then.

I already a HT. I only used Fin for 1 month. 1 mg. I was a bit delusional abot Sides and stopped
Its a very good Made HT. Dont get me wrong. But a HT is a HT and will never Look 100 percent natural. im statisfied witg the result but I Wish i Went on Fin earlier. Im on fin again since April, this time 0.5 mg. Its good Dose. No Sides. I also use minox everyday, but First only on my tonsure. After half a year I will Look how well it worked for me and apply it on other areas as well

 

[Snari]

Yeah this is promising however there are things we haven’t considered. What if the newly grown follicles aren’t strong enough to be transplanted? Or maybe it only works once or twice until it stops growing again. Or it has diminishing returns. Or it doesn’t work for everyone.

Fingers crossed though.

 

[Tasty17]

I already a HT. I only used Fin for 1 month. 1 mg. I was a bit delusional abot Sides and stopped
Its a very good Made HT. Dont get me wrong. But a HT is a HT and will never Look 100 percent natural. im statisfied witg the result but I Wish i Went on Fin earlier. Im on fin again since April, this time 0.5 mg. Its good Dose. No Sides. I also use minox everyday, but First only on my tonsure. After half a year I will Look how well it worked for me and apply it on other areas as well

Much success brother.