Visualizing Harmony

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Harmony is a difficult concept to picture.
We've heard this word get thrown around a lot in this forum for many years.
What should be realised is this extends beyond looks, and even the visual. I would argue it's a measure of equilibrium

In visual aesthetics for humans, Harmony can be understood as an assessment of the interconnection between a person's ratios + misc.
The interesting part is that it is entirely variable, which goes against harmony calculators

I'll provide the following analogy with the example of Johnny Depp:
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Say you had a cobweb around 100 nails
If you pull a few of the nails further away, naturally (for equilibrium) the strong cobwebs will be pulling the other nails towards that direction

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Depp has very rare traits like low zygos, narrow mouth, lots of bonemass... all these are independently pulling the nails in different directions
Some are in the same general direction as others, whilst the rest are not, leading to some parts of the cobweb being tighter than others

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Harmony calculators say the general cobweb structure based on where the artificial nails must be, and apply it for all humans
But Depp has multiple things that are far from normal, that all affect each other
His "base" is skewed far from average

Harmony calculators don't work for guys like Depp to the extent they might for the average person
He possesses sufficiently abnormal features

Morphs allow for the relative nature between ratios+misc to converge
Not the ratios themselves!
Take harmony calculators with a grain of salt

But even morphs have different bases (true average of all 100 nails positions)

Because the cobweb structure is different
For one feature an extra mm compared to another morph, and to balance it this 2nd feature has to be 1mm less
But then the 3rd feature must be 2 more
Oh wait, adding 2 more to the 3rd feature now is pulling the cobweb that is attached to the 1st nail down. So it needs to be 0.5mm less.
Oh wait now this has made the cobweb around the 2nd nail too loose, so it needs to be dragged out 0.25mm

Imagine this but with hundreds of individual features

Now I say they are 100s of nails, but in reality it is continuous - a gradient not nails. But nails is a good analogy to visualise
In truth a colour gradient would be better
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But this field only provides us with continuous laxity, it doesn't tell us what interconnection resulted in this laxity (whether it was the 1st nail pulling or the 57th)
So you would need to introduce another continuous field over this 2d domain.
 
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Does Pattinson fit?

high forehead and a long nose elongate the face and create an unconventional base.

Deep-set eyes and a broad jaw restore balance.

Thin lips and flat cheekbones don’t overload the look, keeping the focus on the forehead-nose-jaw combination.
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Does Pattinson fit?

high forehead and a long nose elongate the face and create an unconventional base.

Deep-set eyes and a broad jaw restore balance.

Thin lips and flat cheekbones don’t overload the look, keeping the focus on the forehead-nose-jaw combination.
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Yes
If one feature is abnormal, naturally it's a higher chance that to restore balance pther features must stray from the norm

His nose could be more defined though as his lips are thinner
Also deepset eyes do help but his PFL is what helps his harmony the most
 
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im too low iq to understand this
 
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Why JFL emoji?
 
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giga high iq outlook
 
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My harmony is shit. Both ratios and when visualized. Truly over
 
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Why JFL emoji?
It's not as black and white as this
What people perceive as harmony is an added up score of how good/bad all your features are

No feature should compensate for another (in most circumstances).
"Compensating" doesn't exist because what is good/ideal is relative to everything else you have
Use this example. Imagine if every ratio but one sat outside their proposed ranges of ideality. Would you expect the last to sit within it?
 
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IMG 2021
 
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It's not as black and white as this



"Compensating" doesn't exist because what is good/ideal is relative to everything else you have
Use this example. Imagine if every ratio but one sat outside their proposed ranges of ideality. Would you expect the last to sit within it?
This is disprovable with one feature.

Bring me one person who's eyes look proportional without a 65mm IPD. A midface ratio or ESR can never look proportional if the eyes arent 65mm.
 
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True thats why a lot of peoples look good even with big failos sometimes those flaws even make them more attractive, high iq post
 
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I think dis is complete cope shet imo:lul::lul::lul::lul:
 
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Johnny depp looks ltn lmao.
 
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You're not

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Nice post, son. Fun stuff.
 
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Why don't you make an account on social media where you rate faces
I think you'd make good money
 
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