Wage slaving is wage slaving regardless of how high the salary is

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One thing that people miss about very high salaries in say quant, surgeon, legal firms etc is the actual salary they receive in hand, the purchasing power and whats actually left after taxes. Because taxation at this tier of wages becomes very muddy

Going from broke college studet to a stable high corporate salary completely changes your life no doubt about it but once you start climbing from $140-150k to $300k you hit a weird no man's land. I have already driven this point home in my previous threads


but let me quantify it for you properly. You are making a lot of money now yes but you aren't really getting richer. Your day to day life comes down to what kind of grind you want to tolerate. If you choose quantitative finance, big law, or surgery, you're signing up for a high pressure meat grinders for 70+ hours a week. In this regard I feel big tech is better than anything else. I asked Gemini for a rough break down and here it is.

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A tech guy can hustle hard for a few focused hours, get work done, and spend the rest of the day just chilling on Discord, scrolling TikTok and living comfortably. Yes he won't be making as much as cardiologist or quant traders but still paid similar per hour rates for less effort but the problem still remains W-2 payroll.

$200k and $400k aren't much different. Again another example with cold hard numbers

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So if you live in High tax hub like California or New York you're going to have 40% to 50% of your check instantly bleed out into taxes before it ever hits your bank account. That's how brutal it is

This is why in my opinion after a certain income bracket it doesn't make sense to be an employee. Once you move from W-2 to 1099/K-1 partnership then it starts making difference. Let's quantify it again.

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Both making $300,000 Person B keeps ~$49,000 more cash every single year than Person A. Over a 10 year career that single change compounds into an like extra $700,000+ in net worth, entirely funded by money that Person A paid in taxes and this is just for starters. There are also other loopholes that exist for owners

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This is what highly skilled people realize that at some point that they are generating millions of dollars for an entity that throws you a fraction and the firms aren't stupid. They know that at some point you will figure out the game and to prevent you from leaving and pulling a Jim Simons or starting a competing firm. They give partnership.

This means turning into partner at a law firm, surgeon given clinics or engineer with equity or some top quant guy getting partnership in performance pool. They aren't doing this because they want to be fair. They are basically turning you a volatile asset into an owner who is now locked into the survival of the mothership. This isn't something unique to US either. Similar things exist in Europe, Asia too. I just took US example because it's easy to pull numbers.

Wage slave is wage slave regardless of how high his wages are. I don't define someone wealthy when the moment they stop selling their hours they end up in the streets. This is why I keep shoe horning the point that the ultimate goal cannot and should not be a bigger paycheck. It must be equity and ownership.
 
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Not many people recognize this but I think it's quite overlooked. Usually in that range you're working your ass off. Regardless, I think it's an important phase for transitioning to higher income/lower effort positions. Companies like law firms specifically put new hires through that phase to make them "prove themselves" with insane working hours, until they are ready to move on to a higher position.
 
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jfl me reading this as i had my breakdown yesterday on what i wanted to truly do with my life after i spent my entire existence so far on getting into a top undergrad uni to study and go into big law.

even though i'll be an inevitable wage cuck i'll probably just rack up the money and try building my own firm or some shit or make my own business with my income; pretty sure that's what most successful people do.

i researched peter thiels life and understood that he, too, spent a couple of years in big law, racked up money and fucking despised it, just to go on to quit and make paypal

i'm planning on doing similar, though i'm obviously most likely not as high IQ as him or have a similar drive. but it's worth a try, better than being a fucking bum all day in an attempt to disprove of "wage slaving"
 
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just wanted a straight foward career path that would have them living at a 90th percentile although they slave away some of the most valuable years, It's not a bad deal if you come from complete shit though or you really love the job.
 
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I make 50k pre tax this is very relatable yes indeed
 
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just wanted a straight foward career path that would have them living at a 90th percentile although they slave away some of the most valuable years, It's not a bad deal if you come from complete shit though or you really love the job.
nobody truly loves jobs like those btw, they're all either larping or trying their hardest to trick themselves into liking it.

it's not abt coming from "complete shit" though, since biglaw can make you an upwards of 5 mil yearly, though you gotta work your ass off to the point where you'll probably die young asf due to stress when you try to spend the money you racked up.

but lawyers/big law are objectively in the 99th percentile when it comes to making money, same with surgeons. if one came from complete shit they'd probably do a normie midwit job like being an accountant, which would be better than what they were doing during childhood.

but also people just want a purpose in their lives, i don't think any sane person wants to LDAR their entire life unless they're truly depressed; that shit would just fucking kill them inside to the point where they think they're absolutely useless to society and just kill themselves; or if you LDAR and cope with the fact that you have no purpose with drugs jfl

striving to acquire the top wage slaving jobs is what makes people feel like they're contributing to society, and like their life has meaning. essentially a substitute cope for religion (which, also, is a cope for life having truly no purpose)

i just ranted wtf i'm prolly gonna get a dnr which i don't blame
 
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One thing that people miss about very high salaries in say quant, surgeon, legal firms etc is the actual salary they receive in hand, the purchasing power and whats actually left after taxes. Because taxation at this tier of wages becomes very muddy

Going from broke college studet to a stable high corporate salary completely changes your life no doubt about it but once you start climbing from $140-150k to $300k you hit a weird no man's land. I have already driven this point home in my previous threads


but let me quantify it for you properly. You are making a lot of money now yes but you aren't really getting richer. Your day to day life comes down to what kind of grind you want to tolerate. If you choose quantitative finance, big law, or surgery, you're signing up for a high pressure meat grinders for 70+ hours a week. In this regard I feel big tech is better than anything else. I asked Gemini for a rough break down and here it is.

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A tech guy can hustle hard for a few focused hours, get work done, and spend the rest of the day just chilling on Discord, scrolling TikTok and living comfortably. Yes he won't be making as much as cardiologist or quant traders but still paid similar per hour rates for less effort but the problem still remains W-2 payroll.

$200k and $400k aren't much different. Again another example with cold hard numbers

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So if you live in High tax hub like California or New York you're going to have 40% to 50% of your check instantly bleed out into taxes before it ever hits your bank account. That's how brutal it is

This is why in my opinion after a certain income bracket it doesn't make sense to be an employee. Once you move from W-2 to 1099/K-1 partnership then it starts making difference. Let's quantify it again.

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Both making $300,000 Person B keeps ~$49,000 more cash every single year than Person A. Over a 10 year career that single change compounds into an like extra $700,000+ in net worth, entirely funded by money that Person A paid in taxes and this is just for starters. There are also other loopholes that exist for owners

View attachment 5265342

This is what highly skilled people realize that at some point that they are generating millions of dollars for an entity that throws you a fraction and the firms aren't stupid. They know that at some point you will figure out the game and to prevent you from leaving and pulling a Jim Simons or starting a competing firm. They give partnership.

This means turning into partner at a law firm, surgeon given clinics or engineer with equity or some top quant guy getting partnership in performance pool. They aren't doing this because they want to be fair. They are basically turning you a volatile asset into an owner who is now locked into the survival of the mothership. This isn't something unique to US either. Similar things exist in Europe, Asia too. I just took US example because it's easy to pull numbers.

Wage slave is wage slave regardless of how high his wages are. I don't define someone wealthy when the moment they stop selling their hours they end up in the streets. This is why I keep shoe horning the point that the ultimate goal cannot and should not be a bigger paycheck. It must be equity and ownership.
Honestly may be low T, but I donโ€™t mind wage slaving

As long as I get to looksmaxx tho

Iโ€™m literally working rn 17h just for surgery when I donโ€™t need to work

Iโ€™m going to start a business soon, hopefully it pays for my surgery
 
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nobody truly loves jobs like those btw, they're all either larping or trying their hardest to trick themselves into liking it.

it's not abt coming from "complete shit" though, since biglaw can make you an upwards of 5 mil yearly, though you gotta work your ass off to the point where you'll probably die young asf due to stress when you try to spend the money you racked up.

but lawyers/big law are objectively in the 99th percentile when it comes to making money, same with surgeons. if one came from complete shit they'd probably do a normie midwit job like being an accountant, which would be better than what they were doing during childhood.

but also people just want a purpose in their lives, i don't think any sane person wants to LDAR their entire life unless they're truly depressed; that shit would just fucking kill them inside to the point where they think they're absolutely useless to society and just kill themselves; or if you LDAR and cope with the fact that you have no purpose with drugs jfl

striving to acquire the top wage slaving jobs is what makes people feel like they're contributing to society, and like their life has meaning. essentially a substitute cope for religion (which, also, is a cope for life having truly no purpose)

i just ranted wtf i'm prolly gonna get a dnr which i don't blame
I think there's enough reasons for one to enjoy being a doctor or surgeon

can't think of much for big law though unless you're like a fucking psycho
 
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Honestly may be low T, but I donโ€™t mind wage slaving

As long as I get to looksmaxx tho

Iโ€™m literally working rn 17h just for surgery when I donโ€™t need to work

Iโ€™m going to start a business soon, hopefully it pays for my surgery
That's alright man. As long as you are aware. Many people prefer having a stable job and not having to worry about all these things and that's fine too
 
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I think there's enough reasons for one to enjoy being a doctor or surgeon

can't think of much for big law though unless you're like a fucking psycho
yea i was mostly thinking abt big law, not being a doctor or a surgeon. i haven't researched much in any of those positions, since i wasn't interested in either to begin with, but i'd assume that the hours compared to law are almost nonexistent
 
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yea i was mostly thinking abt big law, not being a doctor or a surgeon. i haven't researched much in any of those positions, since i wasn't interested in either to begin with, but i'd assume that the hours compared to law are almost nonexistent
I know that they're essentially slaves during med school and residency but beyond that no idea
 
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Iโ€™m going to start a business soon, hopefully it pays for my surgery
i hate when niggas say they're going to start a business.

genuinely the most saddest cope i've ever witnessed. are you going to get it backed by yc? do you have any fucking idea what the business is going to be? or is it gonna be dog-walking or lawn mowing :lul:
 
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i hate when niggas say they're going to start a business.

genuinely the most saddest cope i've ever witnessed. are you going to get it backed by yc? do you have any fucking idea what the business is going to be? or is it gonna be dog-walking or lawn mowing :lul:
Getting backed by YC itself is a topic of another discussion
 
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I know that they're essentially slaves during med school and residency but beyond that no idea
my friend took 2 gap years after undergrad to study for the mcat and try and get a good score. ik for a fact that every single day he would study for 6 hours non stop and take adderall, he got a good score eventually, but he'll probably be doing that much more during med school/residency. he was/is miserable af
 
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You should've tagged him @Seth Walsh. Generational Wealth >>>> Income Cuck
 
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my friend took 2 gap years after undergrad to study for the mcat and try and get a good score. ik for a fact that every single day he would study for 6 hours non stop and take adderall, he got a good score eventually, but he'll probably be doing that much more during med school/residency. he was/is miserable af
Best of luck to him, I would never get into that shit without an innate genetic gift for that reason though. Although I heard they get attention from nurses? Idk how true that is but I mean might as well take any win.
 
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One thing that people miss about very high salaries in say quant, surgeon, legal firms etc is the actual salary they receive in hand, the purchasing power and whats actually left after taxes. Because taxation at this tier of wages becomes very muddy

Going from broke college studet to a stable high corporate salary completely changes your life no doubt about it but once you start climbing from $140-150k to $300k you hit a weird no man's land. I have already driven this point home in my previous threads


but let me quantify it for you properly. You are making a lot of money now yes but you aren't really getting richer. Your day to day life comes down to what kind of grind you want to tolerate. If you choose quantitative finance, big law, or surgery, you're signing up for a high pressure meat grinders for 70+ hours a week. In this regard I feel big tech is better than anything else. I asked Gemini for a rough break down and here it is.

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A tech guy can hustle hard for a few focused hours, get work done, and spend the rest of the day just chilling on Discord, scrolling TikTok and living comfortably. Yes he won't be making as much as cardiologist or quant traders but still paid similar per hour rates for less effort but the problem still remains W-2 payroll.

$200k and $400k aren't much different. Again another example with cold hard numbers

View attachment 5265320View attachment 5265322

So if you live in High tax hub like California or New York you're going to have 40% to 50% of your check instantly bleed out into taxes before it ever hits your bank account. That's how brutal it is

This is why in my opinion after a certain income bracket it doesn't make sense to be an employee. Once you move from W-2 to 1099/K-1 partnership then it starts making difference. Let's quantify it again.

View attachment 5265338

Both making $300,000 Person B keeps ~$49,000 more cash every single year than Person A. Over a 10 year career that single change compounds into an like extra $700,000+ in net worth, entirely funded by money that Person A paid in taxes and this is just for starters. There are also other loopholes that exist for owners

View attachment 5265342

This is what highly skilled people realize that at some point that they are generating millions of dollars for an entity that throws you a fraction and the firms aren't stupid. They know that at some point you will figure out the game and to prevent you from leaving and pulling a Jim Simons or starting a competing firm. They give partnership.

This means turning into partner at a law firm, surgeon given clinics or engineer with equity or some top quant guy getting partnership in performance pool. They aren't doing this because they want to be fair. They are basically turning you a volatile asset into an owner who is now locked into the survival of the mothership. This isn't something unique to US either. Similar things exist in Europe, Asia too. I just took US example because it's easy to pull numbers.

Wage slave is wage slave regardless of how high his wages are. I don't define someone wealthy when the moment they stop selling their hours they end up in the streets. This is why I keep shoe horning the point that the ultimate goal cannot and should not be a bigger paycheck. It must be equity and ownership.
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for me , great thread

great thread you made me realize some shit about high paying jobs

i will also be starting business later on i will not be wage cucking

make a thread on business (which type is better ) , or any type freelancing shit , market analysis pls content creation etc

i was thinking of making mc server:feelshah:and mc video creation that shit is dead tho ngl and its a bit childish ngl
 
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i hate when niggas say they're going to start a business.

genuinely the most saddest cope i've ever witnessed. are you going to get it backed by yc? do you have any fucking idea what the business is going to be? or is it gonna be dog-walking or lawn mowing :lul:
Why do you niggas always think business has to be large like billionaire or something. There are many dudes pulling 500k a year by apps or small businesses. Tax Benefit you get is massive as business owner and many small ones are exempted. YC/VC cares only about scaling and taking their cut making multiples.
 
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i hate when niggas say they're going to start a business.

genuinely the most saddest cope i've ever witnessed. are you going to get it backed by yc? do you have any fucking idea what the business is going to be? or is it gonna be dog-walking or lawn mowing :lul:
Why do you niggas always think business has to be large like billionaire or something. There are many dudes pulling 500k a year by apps or small businesses. Tax Benefit you get is massive as business owner and many small ones are exempted. YC/VC cares only about scaling and taking their cut making multiples.
 
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will read later
 
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Why do you niggas always think business has to be large like billionaire or something. There are many dudes pulling 500k a year by apps or small businesses. Tax Benefit you get is massive as business owner and many small ones are exempted. YC/VC cares only about scaling and taking their cut making multiples.
doesn't have to necessarily be as big as a billionaire's but most businesses fail. and it's a huge cope for those who aren't doing shit with their lives who say "yea i'll start a business soon" with absolutely no plan.

wtf isn't an eventual billionaire business anyways though? a business's whole purpose is to keep scaling and racking up more money, putting money back into said business, and eventually making an empire. that's literally the inherent definition of what a "business" is.

and good ideas have by itself potential to become "billionaire level" businesses. if you don't have good ideas then don't spend time making a "business" that's bound to fail
 
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taxes not being linear is such a weird concept. maybe im low iq but that makes sense to me.

kinda interesting the differences between south indians and north. you seem to always discuss education, good careers etc.
while my gujarati background is all business,slave,save.
 
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One thing that people miss about very high salaries in say quant, surgeon, legal firms etc is the actual salary they receive in hand, the purchasing power and whats actually left after taxes. Because taxation at this tier of wages becomes very muddy

Going from broke college studet to a stable high corporate salary completely changes your life no doubt about it but once you start climbing from $140-150k to $300k you hit a weird no man's land. I have already driven this point home in my previous threads


but let me quantify it for you properly. You are making a lot of money now yes but you aren't really getting richer. Your day to day life comes down to what kind of grind you want to tolerate. If you choose quantitative finance, big law, or surgery, you're signing up for a high pressure meat grinders for 70+ hours a week. In this regard I feel big tech is better than anything else. I asked Gemini for a rough break down and here it is.

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A tech guy can hustle hard for a few focused hours, get work done, and spend the rest of the day just chilling on Discord, scrolling TikTok and living comfortably. Yes he won't be making as much as cardiologist or quant traders but still paid similar per hour rates for less effort but the problem still remains W-2 payroll.

$200k and $400k aren't much different. Again another example with cold hard numbers

View attachment 5265320View attachment 5265322

So if you live in High tax hub like California or New York you're going to have 40% to 50% of your check instantly bleed out into taxes before it ever hits your bank account. That's how brutal it is

This is why in my opinion after a certain income bracket it doesn't make sense to be an employee. Once you move from W-2 to 1099/K-1 partnership then it starts making difference. Let's quantify it again.

View attachment 5265338

Both making $300,000 Person B keeps ~$49,000 more cash every single year than Person A. Over a 10 year career that single change compounds into an like extra $700,000+ in net worth, entirely funded by money that Person A paid in taxes and this is just for starters. There are also other loopholes that exist for owners

View attachment 5265342

This is what highly skilled people realize that at some point that they are generating millions of dollars for an entity that throws you a fraction and the firms aren't stupid. They know that at some point you will figure out the game and to prevent you from leaving and pulling a Jim Simons or starting a competing firm. They give partnership.

This means turning into partner at a law firm, surgeon given clinics or engineer with equity or some top quant guy getting partnership in performance pool. They aren't doing this because they want to be fair. They are basically turning you a volatile asset into an owner who is now locked into the survival of the mothership. This isn't something unique to US either. Similar things exist in Europe, Asia too. I just took US example because it's easy to pull numbers.

Wage slave is wage slave regardless of how high his wages are. I don't define someone wealthy when the moment they stop selling their hours they end up in the streets. This is why I keep shoe horning the point that the ultimate goal cannot and should not be a bigger paycheck. It must be equity and ownership.
Would you rather be a Mech wagecuck or a quant wagecuck ?

Imagine being part of the team that analysed F-22's engine Aerothermodynamics and still being cucked in salary by some quant.

CSE/Quant/Finance/Surgeon wagecuck is better than Mech cuck. You do shit that is very important and get paid good by anyone's standard and live in a good neighbourhood. Mech wagecucks are doomed working like slaves because MBAs dont understand product lifecycle and want to cut costs wherever they want.
 
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Honestly may be low T, but I donโ€™t mind wage slaving

As long as I get to looksmaxx tho

Iโ€™m literally working rn 17h just for surgery when I donโ€™t need to work

Iโ€™m going to start a business soon, hopefully it pays for my surgery
yea bro remember that mc server :ogre:
 
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taxes not being linear is such a weird concept. maybe im low iq but that makes sense to me.

kinda interesting the differences between south indians and north. you seem to always discuss education, good careers etc.
while my gujarati background is all business,slave,save.
Its because no one has the balls to implement a land value tax
 
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you forgot to tagg your currybro @SamosaChutneyCel
One thing that people miss about very high salaries in say quant, surgeon, legal firms etc is the actual salary they receive in hand, the purchasing power and whats actually left after taxes. Because taxation at this tier of wages becomes very muddy

Going from broke college studet to a stable high corporate salary completely changes your life no doubt about it but once you start climbing from $140-150k to $300k you hit a weird no man's land. I have already driven this point home in my previous threads


but let me quantify it for you properly. You are making a lot of money now yes but you aren't really getting richer. Your day to day life comes down to what kind of grind you want to tolerate. If you choose quantitative finance, big law, or surgery, you're signing up for a high pressure meat grinders for 70+ hours a week. In this regard I feel big tech is better than anything else. I asked Gemini for a rough break down and here it is.

View attachment 5265317
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A tech guy can hustle hard for a few focused hours, get work done, and spend the rest of the day just chilling on Discord, scrolling TikTok and living comfortably. Yes he won't be making as much as cardiologist or quant traders but still paid similar per hour rates for less effort but the problem still remains W-2 payroll.

$200k and $400k aren't much different. Again another example with cold hard numbers

View attachment 5265320View attachment 5265322

So if you live in High tax hub like California or New York you're going to have 40% to 50% of your check instantly bleed out into taxes before it ever hits your bank account. That's how brutal it is

This is why in my opinion after a certain income bracket it doesn't make sense to be an employee. Once you move from W-2 to 1099/K-1 partnership then it starts making difference. Let's quantify it again.

View attachment 5265338

Both making $300,000 Person B keeps ~$49,000 more cash every single year than Person A. Over a 10 year career that single change compounds into an like extra $700,000+ in net worth, entirely funded by money that Person A paid in taxes and this is just for starters. There are also other loopholes that exist for owners

View attachment 5265342

This is what highly skilled people realize that at some point that they are generating millions of dollars for an entity that throws you a fraction and the firms aren't stupid. They know that at some point you will figure out the game and to prevent you from leaving and pulling a Jim Simons or starting a competing firm. They give partnership.

This means turning into partner at a law firm, surgeon given clinics or engineer with equity or some top quant guy getting partnership in performance pool. They aren't doing this because they want to be fair. They are basically turning you a volatile asset into an owner who is now locked into the survival of the mothership. This isn't something unique to US either. Similar things exist in Europe, Asia too. I just took US example because it's easy to pull numbers.

Wage slave is wage slave regardless of how high his wages are. I don't define someone wealthy when the moment they stop selling their hours they end up in the streets. This is why I keep shoe horning the point that the ultimate goal cannot and should not be a bigger paycheck. It must be equity and ownership.
 
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Buno
 
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One thing that people miss about very high salaries in say quant, surgeon, legal firms etc is the actual salary they receive in hand, the purchasing power and whats actually left after taxes. Because taxation at this tier of wages becomes very muddy

Going from broke college studet to a stable high corporate salary completely changes your life no doubt about it but once you start climbing from $140-150k to $300k you hit a weird no man's land. I have already driven this point home in my previous threads


but let me quantify it for you properly. You are making a lot of money now yes but you aren't really getting richer. Your day to day life comes down to what kind of grind you want to tolerate. If you choose quantitative finance, big law, or surgery, you're signing up for a high pressure meat grinders for 70+ hours a week. In this regard I feel big tech is better than anything else. I asked Gemini for a rough break down and here it is.

View attachment 5265317
View attachment 5265316

A tech guy can hustle hard for a few focused hours, get work done, and spend the rest of the day just chilling on Discord, scrolling TikTok and living comfortably. Yes he won't be making as much as cardiologist or quant traders but still paid similar per hour rates for less effort but the problem still remains W-2 payroll.

$200k and $400k aren't much different. Again another example with cold hard numbers

View attachment 5265320View attachment 5265322

So if you live in High tax hub like California or New York you're going to have 40% to 50% of your check instantly bleed out into taxes before it ever hits your bank account. That's how brutal it is

This is why in my opinion after a certain income bracket it doesn't make sense to be an employee. Once you move from W-2 to 1099/K-1 partnership then it starts making difference. Let's quantify it again.

View attachment 5265338

Both making $300,000 Person B keeps ~$49,000 more cash every single year than Person A. Over a 10 year career that single change compounds into an like extra $700,000+ in net worth, entirely funded by money that Person A paid in taxes and this is just for starters. There are also other loopholes that exist for owners

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This is what highly skilled people realize that at some point that they are generating millions of dollars for an entity that throws you a fraction and the firms aren't stupid. They know that at some point you will figure out the game and to prevent you from leaving and pulling a Jim Simons or starting a competing firm. They give partnership.

This means turning into partner at a law firm, surgeon given clinics or engineer with equity or some top quant guy getting partnership in performance pool. They aren't doing this because they want to be fair. They are basically turning you a volatile asset into an owner who is now locked into the survival of the mothership. This isn't something unique to US either. Similar things exist in Europe, Asia too. I just took US example because it's easy to pull numbers.

Wage slave is wage slave regardless of how high his wages are. I don't define someone wealthy when the moment they stop selling their hours they end up in the streets. This is why I keep shoe horning the point that the ultimate goal cannot and should not be a bigger paycheck. It must be equity and ownership.
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for me , great thread

great thread you made me realize some shit about high paying jobs

i will also be starting business later on i will not be wage cucking

make a thread on business (which type is better ) , or any type freelancing shit , market analysis pls content creation etc

i was thinking of making mc server:feelshah:and mc video creation that shit is dead tho ngl and its a bit childish ngl
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One thing that people miss about very high salaries in say quant, surgeon, legal firms etc is the actual salary they receive in hand, the purchasing power and whats actually left after taxes. Because taxation at this tier of wages becomes very muddy

Going from broke college studet to a stable high corporate salary completely changes your life no doubt about it but once you start climbing from $140-150k to $300k you hit a weird no man's land. I have already driven this point home in my previous threads


but let me quantify it for you properly. You are making a lot of money now yes but you aren't really getting richer. Your day to day life comes down to what kind of grind you want to tolerate. If you choose quantitative finance, big law, or surgery, you're signing up for a high pressure meat grinders for 70+ hours a week. In this regard I feel big tech is better than anything else. I asked Gemini for a rough break down and here it is.

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A tech guy can hustle hard for a few focused hours, get work done, and spend the rest of the day just chilling on Discord, scrolling TikTok and living comfortably. Yes he won't be making as much as cardiologist or quant traders but still paid similar per hour rates for less effort but the problem still remains W-2 payroll.

$200k and $400k aren't much different. Again another example with cold hard numbers

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So if you live in High tax hub like California or New York you're going to have 40% to 50% of your check instantly bleed out into taxes before it ever hits your bank account. That's how brutal it is

This is why in my opinion after a certain income bracket it doesn't make sense to be an employee. Once you move from W-2 to 1099/K-1 partnership then it starts making difference. Let's quantify it again.

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Both making $300,000 Person B keeps ~$49,000 more cash every single year than Person A. Over a 10 year career that single change compounds into an like extra $700,000+ in net worth, entirely funded by money that Person A paid in taxes and this is just for starters. There are also other loopholes that exist for owners

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This is what highly skilled people realize that at some point that they are generating millions of dollars for an entity that throws you a fraction and the firms aren't stupid. They know that at some point you will figure out the game and to prevent you from leaving and pulling a Jim Simons or starting a competing firm. They give partnership.

This means turning into partner at a law firm, surgeon given clinics or engineer with equity or some top quant guy getting partnership in performance pool. They aren't doing this because they want to be fair. They are basically turning you a volatile asset into an owner who is now locked into the survival of the mothership. This isn't something unique to US either. Similar things exist in Europe, Asia too. I just took US example because it's easy to pull numbers.

Wage slave is wage slave regardless of how high his wages are. I don't define someone wealthy when the moment they stop selling their hours they end up in the streets. This is why I keep shoe horning the point that the ultimate goal cannot and should not be a bigger paycheck. It must be equity and ownership.
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taxes not being linear is such a weird concept. maybe im low iq but that makes sense to me.
Because a capitalistic society benefits from the maximum taxation on labour and minimal taxation on the capital/goods.
 
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My life is 100x better with discretionary money, so I love being a wage slave
 
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One thing that people miss about very high salaries in say quant, surgeon, legal firms etc is the actual salary they receive in hand, the purchasing power and whats actually left after taxes. Because taxation at this tier of wages becomes very muddy

Going from broke college studet to a stable high corporate salary completely changes your life no doubt about it but once you start climbing from $140-150k to $300k you hit a weird no man's land. I have already driven this point home in my previous threads


but let me quantify it for you properly. You are making a lot of money now yes but you aren't really getting richer. Your day to day life comes down to what kind of grind you want to tolerate. If you choose quantitative finance, big law, or surgery, you're signing up for a high pressure meat grinders for 70+ hours a week. In this regard I feel big tech is better than anything else. I asked Gemini for a rough break down and here it is.

View attachment 5265317
View attachment 5265316

A tech guy can hustle hard for a few focused hours, get work done, and spend the rest of the day just chilling on Discord, scrolling TikTok and living comfortably. Yes he won't be making as much as cardiologist or quant traders but still paid similar per hour rates for less effort but the problem still remains W-2 payroll.

$200k and $400k aren't much different. Again another example with cold hard numbers

View attachment 5265320View attachment 5265322

So if you live in High tax hub like California or New York you're going to have 40% to 50% of your check instantly bleed out into taxes before it ever hits your bank account. That's how brutal it is

This is why in my opinion after a certain income bracket it doesn't make sense to be an employee. Once you move from W-2 to 1099/K-1 partnership then it starts making difference. Let's quantify it again.

View attachment 5265338

Both making $300,000 Person B keeps ~$49,000 more cash every single year than Person A. Over a 10 year career that single change compounds into an like extra $700,000+ in net worth, entirely funded by money that Person A paid in taxes and this is just for starters. There are also other loopholes that exist for owners

View attachment 5265342

This is what highly skilled people realize that at some point that they are generating millions of dollars for an entity that throws you a fraction and the firms aren't stupid. They know that at some point you will figure out the game and to prevent you from leaving and pulling a Jim Simons or starting a competing firm. They give partnership.

This means turning into partner at a law firm, surgeon given clinics or engineer with equity or some top quant guy getting partnership in performance pool. They aren't doing this because they want to be fair. They are basically turning you a volatile asset into an owner who is now locked into the survival of the mothership. This isn't something unique to US either. Similar things exist in Europe, Asia too. I just took US example because it's easy to pull numbers.

Wage slave is wage slave regardless of how high his wages are. I don't define someone wealthy when the moment they stop selling their hours they end up in the streets. This is why I keep shoe horning the point that the ultimate goal cannot and should not be a bigger paycheck. It must be equity and ownership.
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Because a capitalistic society benefits from the maximum taxation on labour and minimal taxation on the capital/goods.
so the opposite of that should theoretically result in more saving/wealth accumulation and less consumerism

beautiful lets run it
 
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One thing that people miss about very high salaries in say quant, surgeon, legal firms etc is the actual salary they receive in hand, the purchasing power and whats actually left after taxes. Because taxation at this tier of wages becomes very muddy

Going from broke college studet to a stable high corporate salary completely changes your life no doubt about it but once you start climbing from $140-150k to $300k you hit a weird no man's land. I have already driven this point home in my previous threads


but let me quantify it for you properly. You are making a lot of money now yes but you aren't really getting richer. Your day to day life comes down to what kind of grind you want to tolerate. If you choose quantitative finance, big law, or surgery, you're signing up for a high pressure meat grinders for 70+ hours a week. In this regard I feel big tech is better than anything else. I asked Gemini for a rough break down and here it is.

View attachment 5265317
View attachment 5265316

A tech guy can hustle hard for a few focused hours, get work done, and spend the rest of the day just chilling on Discord, scrolling TikTok and living comfortably. Yes he won't be making as much as cardiologist or quant traders but still paid similar per hour rates for less effort but the problem still remains W-2 payroll.

$200k and $400k aren't much different. Again another example with cold hard numbers

View attachment 5265320View attachment 5265322

So if you live in High tax hub like California or New York you're going to have 40% to 50% of your check instantly bleed out into taxes before it ever hits your bank account. That's how brutal it is

This is why in my opinion after a certain income bracket it doesn't make sense to be an employee. Once you move from W-2 to 1099/K-1 partnership then it starts making difference. Let's quantify it again.

View attachment 5265338

Both making $300,000 Person B keeps ~$49,000 more cash every single year than Person A. Over a 10 year career that single change compounds into an like extra $700,000+ in net worth, entirely funded by money that Person A paid in taxes and this is just for starters. There are also other loopholes that exist for owners

View attachment 5265342

This is what highly skilled people realize that at some point that they are generating millions of dollars for an entity that throws you a fraction and the firms aren't stupid. They know that at some point you will figure out the game and to prevent you from leaving and pulling a Jim Simons or starting a competing firm. They give partnership.

This means turning into partner at a law firm, surgeon given clinics or engineer with equity or some top quant guy getting partnership in performance pool. They aren't doing this because they want to be fair. They are basically turning you a volatile asset into an owner who is now locked into the survival of the mothership. This isn't something unique to US either. Similar things exist in Europe, Asia too. I just took US example because it's easy to pull numbers.

Wage slave is wage slave regardless of how high his wages are. I don't define someone wealthy when the moment they stop selling their hours they end up in the streets. This is why I keep shoe horning the point that the ultimate goal cannot and should not be a bigger paycheck. It must be equity and ownership.
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This is why in my opinion after a certain income bracket it doesn't make sense to be an employee.
The point of the game is that firms and businesses will always try to underpay you no matter what. You won't be paid fairly for your work unless you are either at the very top. The tax rates are brutal especially in europe specifically around scandinavia. The amount you actually earn will be very minimal compared to what you actually work for. The only way to legitimately get rich is investing and owning stuff like you said.
 
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