WARNING: Being ND will ruin your life in college

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I’m writing this because I’m in my final semester of college, and I want to give some advice to younger guys, especially those who struggle socially, so they can hopefully have a better experience than I did.

When I started college, I moved away from home and didn’t know anyone. I’m ND af, but throughout school I’d always had the same solid friend group I’d known since I was like 6. Because of that, my social awkwardness never really mattered and I never had to build new friendships from scratch. I assumed college would work the same way, that I’d just naturally meet people and fall into a group. That does not happen if you are ND.

To try and make friends all I would do was go to class, sit down, and hope someone would start a conversation with me. Spoiler: that only happens if you’re very good looking (looksmax motivation). The same thing happened in my student accommodation. While everyone else was hanging out in the common area and getting to know each other, I stayed in my room, too anxious to go out and join them. I would literally starve in my room, and drink tap water from the sink in my bathroom before going into the kitchen if I knew there was other people in there. There was actually a moment when one of the guys I lived with caught me alone and invited me to join the group for drinks. But because I was so socially anxious at the time, I just mumbled something like “uhh maybe” and never followed up. That one moment could’ve changed my entire college experience, and I let it slip because of how socially anxious I was.

Important: The first few weeks are the most important socially in college. That early period is when everyone is new, everyone is looking for friends, and nobody has settled into a fixed group yet. Once those early bonds form, they tend to solidify, so you want to be part of that initial mixing phase rather than trying to break into established circles later. Talk to classmates before and after lectures, chat with your roommates, introduce yourself to people in your accommodation, and say yes to almost any social invitation.

A simple strategy:

  • Befriend one or two people in your class.
  • After a lecture, ask them if they want to grab lunch or coffee.
  • If you do this with two different people, you’ve basically created the nucleus of a friend group. People underestimate how easy it is to form a group when everyone is new and looking for connection.
Join clubs or societies that interest you. They’re one of the easiest ways to meet people who share your hobbies or personality. If you’re in a country with fraternities, that’s another route, though realistically, if you’re the type who fits into frat culture easily, you probably aren’t reading this post. The real key is diversity of social circles. Make friends in your classes, in your accommodation, in clubs, in study groups, anywhere you can. The more places you’re socially connected, the more your college life opens up.

And timing matters. Doing this early is far easier than trying to do it later. I’m less socially awkward now than I used to be, but the reality is that I spent 2–3 years being withdrawn and isolated. By the time I tried to put myself out there, most groups were already well‑established, and inserting myself into them felt impossible.


The knock‑on effects of having no social life in college have been disastrous. My day‑to‑day life has become a loop: I go to class, I go to the gym, I go to the library to study, and then I go home. That’s it. The only time I talk to people is when a group project forces me to interact with classmates. It’s hard not to notice the contrast. Everywhere I look, people are hanging out, laughing, going out together, living the version of college you always hear about. Meanwhile, I just do nothing. During my four years here, I’ve only gone out drinking a couple of times, and that was when my friends from home visited. I’ve never grabbed lunch or coffee with classmates, never joined a sports team, never been active in any clubs or societies. At this point, I’ve gotten used to the routine. It’s familiar, predictable, and honestly easier than trying to break into social circles that already feel locked in. But it still stings. There’s this quiet sense of missing out. I don’t expect anything to change now but it still sucks ass.

I finish college in a couple weeks time, and will probably graduate with shitty grades, but at least all this will be over and I can carry what I've learned into my next venture.
 
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warning: I DRINK WATERR :eek::eek:

DNR btw
 
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dnr + water but did u go to parties? and if you did how’d it go

i’m lowk banking on that to be my way of finding friends in college
 
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I also missed out
And then there was the pandemic
 
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I’m writing this because I’m in my final semester of college, and I want to give some advice to younger guys, especially those who struggle socially, so they can hopefully have a better experience than I did.

When I started college, I moved away from home and didn’t know anyone. I’m ND af, but throughout school I’d always had the same solid friend group I’d known since I was like 6. Because of that, my social awkwardness never really mattered and I never had to build new friendships from scratch. I assumed college would work the same way, that I’d just naturally meet people and fall into a group. That does not happen if you are ND.

To try and make friends all I would do was go to class, sit down, and hope someone would start a conversation with me. Spoiler: that only happens if you’re very good looking (looksmax motivation). The same thing happened in my student accommodation. While everyone else was hanging out in the common area and getting to know each other, I stayed in my room, too anxious to go out and join them. I would literally starve in my room, and drink tap water from the sink in my bathroom before going into the kitchen if I knew there was other people in there. There was actually a moment when one of the guys I lived with caught me alone and invited me to join the group for drinks. But because I was so socially anxious at the time, I just mumbled something like “uhh maybe” and never followed up. That one moment could’ve changed my entire college experience, and I let it slip because of how socially anxious I was.

Important: The first few weeks are the most important socially in college. That early period is when everyone is new, everyone is looking for friends, and nobody has settled into a fixed group yet. Once those early bonds form, they tend to solidify, so you want to be part of that initial mixing phase rather than trying to break into established circles later. Talk to classmates before and after lectures, chat with your roommates, introduce yourself to people in your accommodation, and say yes to almost any social invitation.

A simple strategy:

  • Befriend one or two people in your class.
  • After a lecture, ask them if they want to grab lunch or coffee.
  • If you do this with two different people, you’ve basically created the nucleus of a friend group. People underestimate how easy it is to form a group when everyone is new and looking for connection.
Join clubs or societies that interest you. They’re one of the easiest ways to meet people who share your hobbies or personality. If you’re in a country with fraternities, that’s another route, though realistically, if you’re the type who fits into frat culture easily, you probably aren’t reading this post. The real key is diversity of social circles. Make friends in your classes, in your accommodation, in clubs, in study groups, anywhere you can. The more places you’re socially connected, the more your college life opens up.

And timing matters. Doing this early is far easier than trying to do it later. I’m less socially awkward now than I used to be, but the reality is that I spent 2–3 years being withdrawn and isolated. By the time I tried to put myself out there, most groups were already well‑established, and inserting myself into them felt impossible.


The knock‑on effects of having no social life in college have been disastrous. My day‑to‑day life has become a loop: I go to class, I go to the gym, I go to the library to study, and then I go home. That’s it. The only time I talk to people is when a group project forces me to interact with classmates. It’s hard not to notice the contrast. Everywhere I look, people are hanging out, laughing, going out together, living the version of college you always hear about. Meanwhile, I just do nothing. During my four years here, I’ve only gone out drinking a couple of times, and that was when my friends from home visited. I’ve never grabbed lunch or coffee with classmates, never joined a sports team, never been active in any clubs or societies. At this point, I’ve gotten used to the routine. It’s familiar, predictable, and honestly easier than trying to break into social circles that already feel locked in. But it still stings. There’s this quiet sense of missing out. I don’t expect anything to change now but it still sucks ass.

I finish college in a couple weeks time, and will probably graduate with shitty grades, but at least all this will be over and I can carry what I've learned into my next venture.
dnr
 
I’m writing this because I’m in my final semester of college, and I want to give some advice to younger guys, especially those who struggle socially, so they can hopefully have a better experience than I did.

When I started college, I moved away from home and didn’t know anyone. I’m ND af, but throughout school I’d always had the same solid friend group I’d known since I was like 6. Because of that, my social awkwardness never really mattered and I never had to build new friendships from scratch. I assumed college would work the same way, that I’d just naturally meet people and fall into a group. That does not happen if you are ND.

To try and make friends all I would do was go to class, sit down, and hope someone would start a conversation with me. Spoiler: that only happens if you’re very good looking (looksmax motivation). The same thing happened in my student accommodation. While everyone else was hanging out in the common area and getting to know each other, I stayed in my room, too anxious to go out and join them. I would literally starve in my room, and drink tap water from the sink in my bathroom before going into the kitchen if I knew there was other people in there. There was actually a moment when one of the guys I lived with caught me alone and invited me to join the group for drinks. But because I was so socially anxious at the time, I just mumbled something like “uhh maybe” and never followed up. That one moment could’ve changed my entire college experience, and I let it slip because of how socially anxious I was.

Important: The first few weeks are the most important socially in college. That early period is when everyone is new, everyone is looking for friends, and nobody has settled into a fixed group yet. Once those early bonds form, they tend to solidify, so you want to be part of that initial mixing phase rather than trying to break into established circles later. Talk to classmates before and after lectures, chat with your roommates, introduce yourself to people in your accommodation, and say yes to almost any social invitation.

A simple strategy:

  • Befriend one or two people in your class.
  • After a lecture, ask them if they want to grab lunch or coffee.
  • If you do this with two different people, you’ve basically created the nucleus of a friend group. People underestimate how easy it is to form a group when everyone is new and looking for connection.
Join clubs or societies that interest you. They’re one of the easiest ways to meet people who share your hobbies or personality. If you’re in a country with fraternities, that’s another route, though realistically, if you’re the type who fits into frat culture easily, you probably aren’t reading this post. The real key is diversity of social circles. Make friends in your classes, in your accommodation, in clubs, in study groups, anywhere you can. The more places you’re socially connected, the more your college life opens up.

And timing matters. Doing this early is far easier than trying to do it later. I’m less socially awkward now than I used to be, but the reality is that I spent 2–3 years being withdrawn and isolated. By the time I tried to put myself out there, most groups were already well‑established, and inserting myself into them felt impossible.


The knock‑on effects of having no social life in college have been disastrous. My day‑to‑day life has become a loop: I go to class, I go to the gym, I go to the library to study, and then I go home. That’s it. The only time I talk to people is when a group project forces me to interact with classmates. It’s hard not to notice the contrast. Everywhere I look, people are hanging out, laughing, going out together, living the version of college you always hear about. Meanwhile, I just do nothing. During my four years here, I’ve only gone out drinking a couple of times, and that was when my friends from home visited. I’ve never grabbed lunch or coffee with classmates, never joined a sports team, never been active in any clubs or societies. At this point, I’ve gotten used to the routine. It’s familiar, predictable, and honestly easier than trying to break into social circles that already feel locked in. But it still stings. There’s this quiet sense of missing out. I don’t expect anything to change now but it still sucks ass.

I finish college in a couple weeks time, and will probably graduate with shitty grades, but at least all this will be over and I can carry what I've learned into my next venture.
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dnr + water but did u go to parties? and if you did how’d it go

i’m lowk banking on that to be my way of finding friends in college
No I didn't get invited to parties as I didn't talk to anyone. There was a halloween party in my student accom but I just stayed in my room and listened to music to drown out the sound of the party.
 
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Also apologies for not including a TL;DR
 
Holy shit at the retardation of the average forum user now, 5 dnr / water responses and one DNRcel asking you questions rather than taking a minute to read your post which explains things

It's your own fault for blowing the early chances you had and not taking up the invite that you received to join the group for drinks

But I can relate to situations where there's a gathering in your building and just staying in your room rather than attending
If I was to start college again and was able to live on campus for the first year I would just drink or take inhib lowering drugs every day for the first month just to get my foot in the door

I did everything I could to form a group in college but I made no progress regardless
There were no guys in my course I could go out with as they all commuted or were oldcel or stoners who don't leave their safe space

The guy I lived with in first year went out with me because he had nobody else to go out with either but he moved house half way through the year then moved back a week later but spent all day playing fifa with the new guys he met and effectively abandoned me despite being the only guy he had previously

In second year I lived on campus (not private house share) so that I could actually have the full college experience
The only guy I got along with was a full blown aspie who decided he wasn't going to drink a single time in college despite drinking back home, I just ended up getting the taxi with girls most of the time.
In the second semester I managed to find my way into the social circle of the house next door but I had lost my will to go out by that point after being almost 2 years into the clubbing stage and knew I needed to ascend to combat lack of NT so focused on gymcelling
There were situations were I met girls who were friends of my housemates, thought I made good impressions while having convos with some of them, not a single one showed interest, was all just base politeness and as soon as I would show interest or try to make out with them they would pull away because I'm low status socially, yet I could pull a girl in a nightclub in quite a straightforward way

In 3rd year I didn't go out because I was at my lowest state

In 4th year I was in a house with ruthless NT druggies, had one constantly slandering me to all of the girls in the extended social circle and their attitude changed from friendliness to ignoring me in a couple of weeks.
That year made me realize just how much I despise NTs who think that having house parties makes them celebrities
It also made me realize that looks mean nothing in these circles, it's all about NT and social climbing, looks are only a bonus but if you don't have the social status and NT foundation, looks mean absolutely nothing.
I went out a bit and got to experience the house party life but it's just a load of losers who think they're cool bragging about taking drugs.
In this house I never went into the sitting room in the evenings to join them because I knew I wouldn't be able to join in with their retarded convos, one of them called me out for not joining in, I just didn't care

I didn't make one worthwhile friend in college.
The one aspie guy I lived with, I would still speak to him today if I met him on the street but in terms of social benefit, I'd be better off going out alone
Keep in mind I was 6'4, and relatively gymcelled from 2nd year onwards, started college as MTN and ended as HTN
I actually did try, but if you are the non NT trying to make nights out happens, everyone will just respond to your texts saying "nah I'm not going out tonight, don't think anyone is" then jump at the chance to go out when the zero sentience hoard decides on it
 
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Holy shit at the retardation of the average forum user now, 5 dnr / water responses and one DNRcel asking you questions rather than taking a minute to read your post which explains things

It's your own fault for blowing the early chances you had and not taking up the invite that you received to join the group for drinks

But I can relate to situations where there's a gathering in your building and just staying in your room rather than attending
If I was to start college again and was able to live on campus for the first year I would just drink or take inhib lowering drugs every day for the first month just to get my foot in the door

I did everything I could to form a group in college but I made no progress regardless
There were no guys in my course I could go out with as they all commuted or were oldcel or stoners who don't leave their safe space

The guy I lived with in first year went out with me because he had nobody else to go out with either but he moved house half way through the year then moved back a week later but spent all day playing fifa with the new guys he met and effectively abandoned me despite being the only guy he had previously

In second year I lived on campus (not private house share) so that I could actually have the full college experience
The only guy I got along with was a full blown aspie who decided he wasn't going to drink a single time in college despite drinking back home, I just ended up getting the taxi with girls most of the time.
In the second semester I managed to find my way into the social circle of the house next door but I had lost my will to go out by that point after being almost 2 years into the clubbing stage and knew I needed to ascend to combat lack of NT so focused on gymcelling
There were situations were I met girls who were friends of my housemates, thought I made good impressions while having convos with some of them, not a single one showed interest, was all just base politeness and as soon as I would show interest or try to make out with them they would pull away because I'm low status socially, yet I could pull a girl in a nightclub in quite a straightforward way

In 3rd year I didn't go out because I was at my lowest state

In 4th year I was in a house with ruthless NT druggies, had one constantly slandering me to all of the girls in the extended social circle and their attitude changed from friendliness to ignoring me in a couple of weeks.
That year made me realize just how much I despise NTs who think that having house parties makes them celebrities
It also made me realize that looks mean nothing in these circles, it's all about NT and social climbing, looks are only a bonus but if you don't have the social status and NT foundation, looks mean absolutely nothing.
I went out a bit and got to experience the house party life but it's just a load of losers who think they're cool bragging about taking drugs.
In this house I never went into the sitting room in the evenings to join them because I knew I wouldn't be able to join in with their retarded convos, one of them called me out for not joining in, I just didn't care

I didn't make one worthwhile friend in college.
The one aspie guy I lived with, I would still speak to him today if I met him on the street but in terms of social benefit, I'd be better off going out alone
Keep in mind I was 6'4, and relatively gymcelled from 2nd year onwards, started college as MTN and ended as HTN
I actually did try, but if you are the non NT trying to make nights out happens, everyone will just respond to your texts saying "nah I'm not going out tonight, don't think anyone is" then jump at the chance to go out when the zero sentience hoard decides on it
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longer than ops thread
 
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true, I already fucked it up:Comfy:
 
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High inhib + high cortisol is law for ending up a loner
 
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Holy shit at the retardation of the average forum user now, 5 dnr / water responses and one DNRcel asking you questions rather than taking a minute to read your post which explains things

It's your own fault for blowing the early chances you had and not taking up the invite that you received to join the group for drinks

But I can relate to situations where there's a gathering in your building and just staying in your room rather than attending
If I was to start college again and was able to live on campus for the first year I would just drink or take inhib lowering drugs every day for the first month just to get my foot in the door

I did everything I could to form a group in college but I made no progress regardless
There were no guys in my course I could go out with as they all commuted or were oldcel or stoners who don't leave their safe space

The guy I lived with in first year went out with me because he had nobody else to go out with either but he moved house half way through the year then moved back a week later but spent all day playing fifa with the new guys he met and effectively abandoned me despite being the only guy he had previously

In second year I lived on campus (not private house share) so that I could actually have the full college experience
The only guy I got along with was a full blown aspie who decided he wasn't going to drink a single time in college despite drinking back home, I just ended up getting the taxi with girls most of the time.
In the second semester I managed to find my way into the social circle of the house next door but I had lost my will to go out by that point after being almost 2 years into the clubbing stage and knew I needed to ascend to combat lack of NT so focused on gymcelling
There were situations were I met girls who were friends of my housemates, thought I made good impressions while having convos with some of them, not a single one showed interest, was all just base politeness and as soon as I would show interest or try to make out with them they would pull away because I'm low status socially, yet I could pull a girl in a nightclub in quite a straightforward way

In 3rd year I didn't go out because I was at my lowest state

In 4th year I was in a house with ruthless NT druggies, had one constantly slandering me to all of the girls in the extended social circle and their attitude changed from friendliness to ignoring me in a couple of weeks.
That year made me realize just how much I despise NTs who think that having house parties makes them celebrities
It also made me realize that looks mean nothing in these circles, it's all about NT and social climbing, looks are only a bonus but if you don't have the social status and NT foundation, looks mean absolutely nothing.
I went out a bit and got to experience the house party life but it's just a load of losers who think they're cool bragging about taking drugs.
In this house I never went into the sitting room in the evenings to join them because I knew I wouldn't be able to join in with their retarded convos, one of them called me out for not joining in, I just didn't care

I didn't make one worthwhile friend in college.
The one aspie guy I lived with, I would still speak to him today if I met him on the street but in terms of social benefit, I'd be better off going out alone
Keep in mind I was 6'4, and relatively gymcelled from 2nd year onwards, started college as MTN and ended as HTN
I actually did try, but if you are the non NT trying to make nights out happens, everyone will just respond to your texts saying "nah I'm not going out tonight, don't think anyone is" then jump at the chance to go out when the zero sentience hoard decides on it
Yeah by the time I figured out how to appear NT and realised how social circles in college actually work, it was too late and I just didn’t bother.
 
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I accepted I’m never making friends a long time ago but yeah
 
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I went out a bit and got to experience the house party life but it's just a load of losers who think they're cool bragging about taking drugs.
In this house I never went into the sitting room in the evenings to join them because I knew I wouldn't be able to join in with their retarded convos, one of them called me out for not joining in, I just didn't care

I didn't make one worthwhile friend in college.
The one aspie guy I lived with, I would still speak to him today if I met him on the street but in terms of social benefit, I'd be better off going out alone
Keep in mind I was 6'4, and relatively gymcelled from 2nd year onwards, started college as MTN and ended as HTN
I actually did try, but if you are the non NT trying to make nights out happens, everyone will just respond to your texts saying "nah I'm not going out tonight, don't think anyone is" then jump at the chance to go out when the zero sentience hoard decides on it
Seems lame tbh. Just people pretending to socialise

I think highschool socialisation is more important. If you were a loner in highschool it’s over in uni
 
thanks god i fixed my uni life and thank god for low inhibit drugs :lul:.

but yeah my HS life was pretty loner. eventhough i could slay girls from my school or tinder, it was still pretty shit life without friends
 
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There were situations were I met girls who were friends of my housemates, thought I made good impressions while having convos with some of them, not a single one showed interest, was all just base politeness and as soon as I would show interest or try to make out with them they would pull away because I'm low status socially, yet I could pull a girl in a nightclub in quite a straightforward way
Wow that's crazy. So as a ND and attractive dude I just need to try meet girl outside where I live and it's easy to make out from this point? You confirmed my theory. That I just need to travel to somewhere, then just meet girls invite to my rented place and it would be easy sex. Thanks bro. Also you are really positive dude. Not DNR doomer. Follow for follow?
 
Jfl bro I'm extremely nd as well but i at least have one or two friends at college fuck were you doing all those years?
 
Jfl bro I'm extremely nd as well but i at least have one or two friends at college fuck were you doing all those years?
Literally nothing lmao, those first few months of not trying to make friends took its toll
 
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Holy shit at the retardation of the average forum user now, 5 dnr / water responses and one DNRcel asking you questions rather than taking a minute to read your post which explains things

It's your own fault for blowing the early chances you had and not taking up the invite that you received to join the group for drinks

But I can relate to situations where there's a gathering in your building and just staying in your room rather than attending
If I was to start college again and was able to live on campus for the first year I would just drink or take inhib lowering drugs every day for the first month just to get my foot in the door

I did everything I could to form a group in college but I made no progress regardless
There were no guys in my course I could go out with as they all commuted or were oldcel or stoners who don't leave their safe space

The guy I lived with in first year went out with me because he had nobody else to go out with either but he moved house half way through the year then moved back a week later but spent all day playing fifa with the new guys he met and effectively abandoned me despite being the only guy he had previously

In second year I lived on campus (not private house share) so that I could actually have the full college experience
The only guy I got along with was a full blown aspie who decided he wasn't going to drink a single time in college despite drinking back home, I just ended up getting the taxi with girls most of the time.
In the second semester I managed to find my way into the social circle of the house next door but I had lost my will to go out by that point after being almost 2 years into the clubbing stage and knew I needed to ascend to combat lack of NT so focused on gymcelling
There were situations were I met girls who were friends of my housemates, thought I made good impressions while having convos with some of them, not a single one showed interest, was all just base politeness and as soon as I would show interest or try to make out with them they would pull away because I'm low status socially, yet I could pull a girl in a nightclub in quite a straightforward way

In 3rd year I didn't go out because I was at my lowest state

In 4th year I was in a house with ruthless NT druggies, had one constantly slandering me to all of the girls in the extended social circle and their attitude changed from friendliness to ignoring me in a couple of weeks.
That year made me realize just how much I despise NTs who think that having house parties makes them celebrities
It also made me realize that looks mean nothing in these circles, it's all about NT and social climbing, looks are only a bonus but if you don't have the social status and NT foundation, looks mean absolutely nothing.
I went out a bit and got to experience the house party life but it's just a load of losers who think they're cool bragging about taking drugs.
In this house I never went into the sitting room in the evenings to join them because I knew I wouldn't be able to join in with their retarded convos, one of them called me out for not joining in, I just didn't care

I didn't make one worthwhile friend in college.
The one aspie guy I lived with, I would still speak to him today if I met him on the street but in terms of social benefit, I'd be better off going out alone
Keep in mind I was 6'4, and relatively gymcelled from 2nd year onwards, started college as MTN and ended as HTN
I actually did try, but if you are the non NT trying to make nights out happens, everyone will just respond to your texts saying "nah I'm not going out tonight, don't think anyone is" then jump at the chance to go out when the zero sentience hoard decides on it
I enjoyed reading your post more than the original one and I fear I completely understand you and the same thing is gonna happen to me. Except that I’m a 5’10 ND MTN
 
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This is just cope, even if you had put yourself out there you would have been tolerated at best and dropped as quickly as possible.

Either you are meant to be with normies or you are not. Trying to force it is a full time job where you’re likely to get “fired” at any moment for the tiniest reasons.
 

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