Was Richard Ramirez a framecel?

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nope just no muscles he mogs 90% of gymcels frame wise despite never touching a weight or protein
 
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SuperSpoonman said:
nope just no muscles he mogs 90% of gymcels frame wise despite never touching a weight or protein
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bs

hes not a framecel but, in terms of width, its nothing impressive.

He has straight clavicles which is obviously aesthetic but his frame is not wide by any means

however he seems to have a good ribcage
 
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golucky said:
bs

hes not a framecel but, in terms of width, its nothing impressive.

He has straight clavicles which is obviously aesthetic but his frame is not wide by any means

however he seems to have a good ribcage
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mogs me im framecel
 
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golucky said:
bs

hes not a framecel but, in terms of width, its nothing impressive.

He has straight clavicles which is obviously aesthetic but his frame is not wide by any means

however he seems to have a good ribcage
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It is quite wide. Untrained bidelt is easily top 5 percentile maybe even more. What are you talking about ?
 

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MaestheticMaso said:
It is quite wide. Untrained bidelt is easily top 5 percentile maybe even more. What are you talking about ?
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looks completely average to me, haloed by straight clavicles which give the illusion of a mogger frame
 
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typical starving frail bonned spic although must be said that his height and bidelt was pretty good under his circunstances
 
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Richard ramirez has average frame tbh, but straight clavicles which look good
 
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golucky said:
really youd have to be mega framecel to be worst than his, on further inspection his traps inset directly " into his shoulder
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if you think u have wider frame than this post a pic. I can assure you do not.
 
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But his frame doesn't matter much he was tall for his time and has gigamogger face
 
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MaestheticMaso said:
It is the same at his but you’re gymmaxxed, flexing and have a higher bf. What’s your bidelt. If he was healthy and gymmaxed, he would be top one percentile.
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Whatashame said:
if you think u have wider frame than this post a pic. I can assure you do not.
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21 inches which is wider that almost everyone i see irl apart from 6'5+ dudes and roidcels
 
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Whatashame said:
if you think u have wider frame than this post a pic. I can assure you do not.
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His shoulder to waist ratio is average. He had straight clavicles which look good
 
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Whatashame said:
you have more muscles than him but your bone doesnt look wider. In your own words you are a framecel then.
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i didnt say he was a framecel but hes not a frame mogger + hes 4 inches taller than me and fully grown
 
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Whatashame said:
you have more muscles than him but your bone doesnt look wider. In your own words you are a framecel then.
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Soon .orgers will be saying this is average.
 

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golucky said:
whats your point?
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A guy with an average frame. Average being around 20 inches will never get close to this. He looks around 24 or more jfl.
 

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MaestheticMaso said:
A guy with an average frame. Average being around 20 inches will never get close to this. He looks around 24 or more jfl.
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you can EASILY pack on 2 inches of muscle per side if you have decent genetics and 100% if u roid

cue: that blonde kid who put 8 inches on his frame, looxs frame transformtation etc
 
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golucky said:
you can EASILY pack on 2 inches of muscle per side if you have decent genetics and 100% if u roid

cue: that blonde kid who put 8 inches on his frame, looxs frame transformtation etc
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Not two mate, maybe two overall. 4 with good response to roids.
 
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MaestheticMaso said:
Yes of course, average person is out of shape though.
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average gym goer is out of shape/looks dyel

also not to mention a very important part of frame IRL Is depth

Frame is important because it gives you presence the same way height does. You can also get presence through just taking up more space , being generally thick. Ribcage and muscle is more improtant for this.
 
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golucky said:
average gym goer is out of shape/looks dyel

also not to mention a very important part of frame IRL Is depth

Frame is important because it gives you presence the same way height does. You can also get presence through just taking up more space , being generally thick. Ribcage and muscle is more improtant for this.
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You Roid or natty ?
 
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his ass is like 145 lbs tho so its really good genetics.
 
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