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Most people already know their looks level roughly so its pointless to give others "LTN" "MTN" such comments
You yourself is a better face rater than many other people.
Just be honest with yourself, after studying facial aesthetics you already know your failos. You can measure your esr, you can measure you FWHR.
By first glance you know if you have upper eyelid exposure.

I recently morphed my IPD and I can see a clear ascension. I ask a few others to rate my morph and raters all agree I ascended significantly. My mid face harmony becomes ideal after an OBO. No one told me my IPD is a big failo but I subconsiously just know so as you.You personally know your failos and what needs to be done already

Focus on ways to ascend not if Im a High high LTN or Low mid High MTN
If you solve your failos the ascension just comes with it
Just like when you earn more money you social status just ascend.
Get a rough idea where you are and most importantly locate failos and find ways to fix them
Dont stress on "if a 0.44 esr a failo" /" is 0.975 mid face ratio a failo "/"is skull more important than eye"
Just fix them bro
 
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Most people already know their looks level roughly so its pointless to give others "LTN" "MTN" such comments
You yourself is a better face rater than many other people.
Just be honest with yourself, after studying facial aesthetics you already know your failos. You can measure your esr, you can measure you FWHR.
By first glance you know if you have upper eyelid exposure.

I recently morphed my IPD and I can see a clear ascension. I ask a few others to rate my morph and they all agree I ascended significantly.
My mid face harmony becomes ideal after an OBO. No one told me my IPD is a big failo but I subconsiously just know so as you.
You personally know your failos and what needs to be done already

Focus on ways to ascend not if Im a High high LTN or Low mid High MTN
If you solve your failos the ascension just comes with it
Just like when you earn more money you social status just ascend.
Get a rough idea where you are and most importantly locate failos and find ways to fix them
Dont stress on "if a 0.44 esr a failo" /" is 0.975 mid face ratio a failo "/"is skull more important than eye"
Just fix them bro
subhuman, Ugly, Average, Above average, Mogger

are the only classes we need . The PSL scale is not bad but needlessly technical.

but I don't agree we are always the best raters for ourselves. Delusionmaxxing is very common with subhumans to protect their mind from the Brutality of the blackpill
 
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Yeah most people here are fair in their self assessment. In stark contrast to reddit where soyjaks say “I’d like to think i’m average, maybe a bit above and i’m still having trouble dating” then they post a picture and they’re a subhuman ogre.
 
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subhuman, Ugly, Average, Above average, Mogger

are the only classes we need . The PSL scale is not bad but needlessly technical.

but I don't agree we are always the best raters for ourselves. Delusionmaxxing is very common with subhumans to protect their mind from the Brutality of the blackpill
Yes maybe you can further simplify it to attractive and unattractive just to keep it simple. You know where you lie.

I admit I have unideal bones and ready to fix it.
but I don't agree we are always the best raters for ourselves.
Somehow correct. But Im very sure subconsciously you know

For my case I took the pill Im ugly and located my failos which actually feels better than before. I know what I have to do step by step.
Painful at first and very brutal I don't wanna go through those emotions again

Yeah most people here are fair in their self assessment. In stark contrast to reddit where soyjaks say “I’d like to think i’m average, maybe a bit above and i’m still having trouble dating” then they post a picture and they’re a subhuman ogre.

Yeah many horsecels and foids post there
Still some ppl here constantly asking if 0.95 MFR/0.443 esr a failo. Then stating Chris Hemsworth / Chico ratios
Come on when you ask this question you already notice it as a failo
If it harmonise your face you won't ask it. At worst morph it and see if its a failo or not
 
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Just compare your face to male models of your own race.
 
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thats what i preach, just improve your biggest falios, your rating should be shown to you naturally by how women treat you online and irl
 
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the better looking you get the more you realize how bad looking you were and still are
it takes a while for you to beat the rat race of looksmaxing
 
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Ratings are the biggest cope. Reality shows where you stand. Sure, they can be good if you need help figuring out your flaws, but as you said we kind of subconsciously know them. Also, geography matters greatly for the dating market. The ratings can't accurately measure where you stand in your specific location. IRL feedback is king.
 
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the better looking you get the more you realize how bad looking you were and still are
it takes a while for you to beat the rat race of looksmaxing
It's a never ending battle tbh.
You'll always find flaws to be discontent with.
There's a reason why many celebrities botched their faces with needless surgeries.
 
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It's a never ending battle tbh.
You'll always find flaws to be discontent with.
There's a reason why many celebrities botched their faces with needless surgeries.
life of a lookist
 
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Most people already know their looks level roughly so its pointless to give others "LTN" "MTN" such comments
You yourself is a better face rater than many other people.
Just be honest with yourself, after studying facial aesthetics you already know your failos. You can measure your esr, you can measure you FWHR.
By first glance you know if you have upper eyelid exposure.

I recently morphed my IPD and I can see a clear ascension. I ask a few others to rate my morph and raters all agree I ascended significantly. My mid face harmony becomes ideal after an OBO. No one told me my IPD is a big failo but I subconsiously just know so as you.You personally know your failos and what needs to be done already

Focus on ways to ascend not if Im a High high LTN or Low mid High MTN
If you solve your failos the ascension just comes with it
Just like when you earn more money you social status just ascend.
Get a rough idea where you are and most importantly locate failos and find ways to fix them
Dont stress on "if a 0.44 esr a failo" /" is 0.975 mid face ratio a failo "/"is skull more important than eye"
Just fix them bro
The day obo will be a thing is the day I ascend.
 
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Ratings are the biggest cope. Reality shows where you stand. Sure, they can be good if you need help figuring out your flaws, but as you said we kind of subconsciously know them. Also, geography matters greatly for the dating market. The ratings can't accurately measure where you stand in your specific location. IRL feedback is king.
Without an internal measure, reality can fuck with your mind.
If you're a good looking guy surrounded by ugly jealous incels, they're gonna try to bring you down.
Which is going to work unless you understand your worth.
 
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Yeah most people here are fair in their self assessment. In stark contrast to reddit where soyjaks say “I’d like to think i’m average, maybe a bit above and i’m still having trouble dating” then they post a picture and they’re a subhuman ogre.
On those social media platforms, you have actual 2/10's or 1/10's thinking they are a 7 or 8 with no other reasoning than their parents or grandparents calling them handsome. Yet they wonder why they get zero matches on all apps and women actively avoid them IRL.

In the PSL sphere most people know realistically where they are on that scale simply due to the way women treat them.
(Unless they are mentally ill, but mentally ill people exist on all platforms)

There is no point participating in looks discussions on platforms like Reddit, because ogres are convinced the dating app algorithms, womens attitudes or the wrong clothes are to blame (or anything but their facial structure, hairline, skin, etc.)
The Dunning-Kruger effect is very strong when it comes to looks for the average person. They delude themselves to retain mental sanity in the complete absence of dating results
 
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Most people already know their looks level roughly so its pointless to give others "LTN" "MTN" such comments
You yourself is a better face rater than many other people.
Just be honest with yourself, after studying facial aesthetics you already know your failos. You can measure your esr, you can measure you FWHR.
By first glance you know if you have upper eyelid exposure.

I recently morphed my IPD and I can see a clear ascension. I ask a few others to rate my morph and raters all agree I ascended significantly. My mid face harmony becomes ideal after an OBO. No one told me my IPD is a big failo but I subconsiously just know so as you.You personally know your failos and what needs to be done already

Focus on ways to ascend not if Im a High high LTN or Low mid High MTN
If you solve your failos the ascension just comes with it
Just like when you earn more money you social status just ascend.
Get a rough idea where you are and most importantly locate failos and find ways to fix them
Dont stress on "if a 0.44 esr a failo" /" is 0.975 mid face ratio a failo "/"is skull more important than eye"
Just fix them bro
No, I’m delusional and most people are too
 

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