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Probably the most successful thing the elites have done
Especially in recent history after the Scientific Revolution, they’ll preach prioritising Science to the masses, whilst behind curtains they’re part of esoteric groups.. trying to accumulate the most Spiritual knowledge

Calling themselves the illumined or enlightened for having knowledge others don’t
It stretches beyond these hidden groups. Even the largest organised religion in the world is built on a bed of lies

The c4.tholic church is an external system.. a middle man used for means of control. Your connection to God does not require a middle man. It should be in its most base form, accessible to ALL.
A direct connection with God, that if is accessible to all, must come from within

The true teachings of Christ, before (they) changed it for control, were:
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But they change the translation to include themselves as middle-men:
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"within you" --> "among you"


The Truth is, what Christ was preaching, is what the East agrees with too. There was a specific reason Christ was teaching constantly to Love everybody (highest frequency).
There is a specific reason older versions of the Bible (Ethiopian), that haven’t been tampered with, paint the Truth as being internal

A Spiritual Truth that is not necessarily bound to any one specific religion.
It is MUCH more fundamental in nature. It is within, to do with how you perceive your identity, the ultimate base.
And how our inability to merge with the Ocean of Truth stems from a misalignment. A misalligned approach of specifically percieving our own identity - Ego


When will people realise we live in an illusion, a holographic “real”ity.
We are all interconnected. The Divine Light/ Holy Spirit, whatever you call it, resides in us all.

You are everything

Not the “you” you have attributed everything to, thus far.
Dissolve your Ego - the walls of separation, with Love not neutrality.
 
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Agreed more people should stop coping with religion and get behind tech driven negative utilitarianism :Okay:
 
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cumulate in hopes of? you've given an indefined rationale; ignorance varies by level to which this is of trivial importance shown that you are trying to just that some differ in interpretation.
 
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High IQ, I need more of it, guide me :feelsokman:
 
yes, your god is the correct one out of the hundreds of thousands of ones that the human race has chosen to place their faith in over countless generations
 
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yes, your god is the correct one out of the hundreds of thousands of ones that the human race has chosen to place their faith in
What God did I mention?
I’m providing a method derived from the convergence of all Spiritual Truths that have been provided. Look up Perennial Philosophy

Read this thread:
 
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Bro you are taking out of context, gnostics is satanic paganism infilitriated belief.
"within you" yes within you to "believers" you are just taking everything out of verse.


yes, your god is the correct one out of the hundreds of thousands of ones that the human race has chosen to place their faith in over countless generations
High IQ, I need more of it, guide me :feelsokman:
cumulate in hopes of? you've given an indefined rationale; ignorance varies by level to which this is of trivial importance shown that you are trying to just that some differ in interpretation.
Agreed more people should stop coping with religion and get behind tech driven negative utilitarianism :Okay:
How yo homie be moving when he gets rejected by the freshman community puh

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@ngannou you need this:
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Bro you are taking out of context, gnostics is satanic paganism infilitriated belief.
"within you" yes within you to "believers" you are just taking everything out of verse.
Brother this is not solely Gnosticism
This is derived from the interconnections of Christianity, Hinduism, Taoism, Buddhism, Sikhism, Sufism + Esotericism

To find a Truth, you don’t just choose the first thing that comes to you. You look at the entire range and note similarities and differences. You note overlap, prioritising those that stray furthest from the mean (most unconventional).. as that is where the Truth resides

Because probabilistically, what are the chances for overlap of 50th percentile with 55th percentile, opposed to 99th percentile with 99.9th percentile
 
Brother this is not solely Gnosticism
This is derived from the interconnections of Christianity, Hinduism, Taoism, Buddhism, Sikhism, Sufism + Esotericism

To find a Truth, you don’t just choose the first thing that comes to you. You look at the entire range and note similarities and differences. You note overlap, prioritising those that stray furthest from the mean (most unconventional).. as that is where the Truth resides

Because probabilistically, what are the chances for overlap of 50th percentile with 55th percentile, opposed to 99th percentile with 99.9th percentile
Here we go again.

New World Order.


One World Religion.

The antichrist.

You are being part of that bro.



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Here we go again.

New World Order.


One World Religion.

The antichrist.

You are being part of that bro.



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Explain?
I’m saying the Truth is within us all. It’s our Egos that are preventing us from seeing it

I have no clue how you can even disagree, because we aren’t talking about the same playing field. You’re talking about duality and I’m talking about non-duality
 
No the truth is only through who believe in the Lord Jesus Christ.

Truth is not within humanity who were once all sinners.


Explain?
I’m saying the Truth is within us all. It’s our Egos that are preventing us from seeing it

I have no clue how you can even disagree, because we aren’t talking about the same playing field. You’re talking about duality and I’m talking about non-duality
 
No the truth is only through who believe in the Lord Jesus Christ.

Truth is not within humanity who were once all sinners.
Bro, believing in Jesus Christ = believing in Holy Spirit

Believing in Holy Spirit is recognising the Divine within us. Why do you think Ethiopian Bible presents Truth as being internal, at such a stark amount contrary to “Orthodox” interpretation?

Even Protestants believe Jesus was only a small part of God. Think about it for a second.
We all contain Divinity (Holy Spirit). Jesus was an enlightened human who found the Truth within - to spread dissolution of separation through Love (highest frequency), thus understanding the Divinity

God is the transcendental (+Universal) Ocean of Divinity, with a blissful loving nature
 
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Jesus Christ is not small part of God, because he himself is God that ultimately came as human flesh

and teached us and bringed salvation face to face.

and no We do not have holy spirit if we do not believe in the Lord Jesus Christ.

The Holy Spirit is sent through Jesus only to believers.

. 16 And I will ask the Father, and he will give you another advocate to help you and be with you forever— 17 the Spirit of truth. The world cannot accept him, because it neither sees him nor knows him. But you know him, for he lives with you and will be[a] in you

Bro, believing in Jesus Christ = believing in Holy Spirit

Believing in Holy Spirit is recognising the Divine within us. Why do you think Ethiopian Bible presents Truth as being internal, at such a stark amount contrary to “Orthodox” interpretation?

Even Protestants believe Jesus was only a small part of God. Think about it for a second.
We all contain Divinity (Holy Spirit). Jesus was an enlightened human who found the Truth within - to spread dissolution of separation through Love (highest frequency), thus understanding the Divinity

God is the transcendental (+Universal) Ocean of Divinity, with a blissful loving nature
 
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The commandments are simply how someone who is already extremely spiritual lives, but also about respect for your body

You can be religious and not fulfill them, or be non-religious and live by them
 
Jesus Christ is not small part of God, because he himself is God that ultimately came as human flesh

and teached us and bringed salvation face to face.

and no We do not have holy spirit if we do not believe in the Lord Jesus Christ
Watch this video:


“Jesus was God, but he was not all of God

Brother, even Cliffe admits that God is 1 and God is everywhere. That God is both in this Universe + Beyond
Jesus was the human form of God, within this Universe. He was enlightened, liberated

It’s equivalent to a wave of the Ocean. When you point at the wave, you call it the Ocean. But there is an ocean of waves
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Jesus was God that came as human flesh.

Father = Represents the Will of God
Son = Represents the Word of God
Holy Spirit = Represents the Spirit of God.

They are one.

God is omnipotent thus he can be omnipresent beyond time and space.

But no it does not change the fact that he created everything and he is above everything he created.

God is not a mere panthiestic God.

But a seperate being who has personaility


Watch this video:


“Jesus was God, but he was not all of God

Brother, even Cliffe admits that God is 1 and God is everywhere. That God is both in this Universe + Beyond
Jesus was the human form of God, within this Universe. He was enlightened, liberated

It’s equivalent to a wave of the Ocean. When you point at the wave, you call it the Ocean. But there is an ocean of waves
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Jesus was God that came as human flesh.

Father = Represents the Will of God
Son = Represents the Word of God
Holy Spirit = Represents the Spirit of God.

They are one.

God is omnipotent thus he can be omnipresent beyond time and space.

But no it does not change the fact that he created everything and he is above everything he created.

God is not a mere panthiestic God
Brother the Truth I was mentioning regarding the Divine isn’t Pantheism
It is Panentheism.

God isn’t just the Universe, I am agreeing with you
He is the the Universe + Beyond
 
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Probably the most successful thing the elites have done
Especially in recent history after the Scientific Revolution, they’ll preach prioritising Science to the masses, whilst behind curtains they’re part of esoteric groups.. trying to accumulate the most Spiritual knowledge

Calling themselves the illumined or enlightened for having knowledge others don’t
It stretches beyond these hidden groups. Even the largest organised religion in the world is built on a bed of lies

The c4.tholic church is an external system.. a middle man used for means of control. Your connection to God does not require a middle man. It should be in its most base form, accessible to ALL.
A direct connection with God, that if is accessible to all, must come from within

The true teachings of Christ, before (they) changed it for control, were:
View attachment 4933305

But they change the translation to include themselves as middle-men:
View attachment 4933308
"within you" --> "among you"


The Truth is, what Christ was preaching, is what the East agrees with too. There was a specific reason Christ was teaching constantly to Love everybody (highest frequency).
There is a specific reason older versions of the Bible (Ethiopian), that haven’t been tampered with, paint the Truth as being internal

A Spiritual Truth that is not necessarily bound to any one specific religion.
It is MUCH more fundamental in nature. It is within, to do with how you perceive your identity, the ultimate base.
And how our inability to merge with the Ocean of Truth stems from a misalignment. A misalligned approach of specifically percieving our own identity - Ego


When will people realise we live in an illusion, a holographic “real”ity.
We are all interconnected. The Divine Light/ Holy Spirit, whatever you call it, resides in us all.

You are everything

Not the “you” you have attributed everything to, thus far.
Dissolve your Ego - the walls of separation, with Love not neutrality.
it always bugged me that I cant go to confession or receive communion because im not "catholic" even though im baptized. Like ill be in a state of "mortal sin", uncleanliness, and pain up until I turn 18 at the very least just because im not part of the club
 
I see,

yes we were created with divine nature, but

after adam sinned human are wretched in sinful nature and no longer divine nature.

Thus we believe in Jesus Christ and renew our sinful nature to Godly nature.


Brother the Truth I was mentioning regarding the Divine isn’t Pantheism
It is Panentheism.

God isn’t just the Universe, I am agreeing with you
He is the the Universe + Beyond
 
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I see,

yes we were created with divine nature, but

after adam sinned human are wretched in sinful nature and no longer divine nature.

Thus we believe in Jesus Christ and renew our sinful nature to Godly nature.
Yes. Belief in Jesus Christ, is belief in Holy Spirit.
Belief in Holy Spirit (our Divine Light within), is abandoning our Ego.
If you believe in your Divinity, that everybody possesses, then you stop believing in your Ego.. because there is no difference between you and the other person

Those walls that separate one person from the next need to be dissolved. Because the Truth is, everybody is One, as everybody possesses the Holy Spirit/Divine Light.

So brother, you can’t just say “oh I believe in Jesus Christ (Holy Spirit)”
You have to ensure that you do, by dissolving your Ego.
 
The sequence is reversed we can't dissolve our ego(sinful nature)

by our own will, no our nature is corrupted from the beginning we just can't,

it is like castrating your desire for woman/man , food, sleep, ....etc.

That is like buddhism , hinduism, greek ascetism, gnostics crap.

So God, became the messiah atoned for our sins which is Jesus Christ being the sacrifice for the sin

and those who believe this is atoned through Jesus Christ because Jesus overcame sin and death and resurrected those who believe in him as well.

Then we receive the Holy Spirit then our sinful nature(ego) is dissolved through new Holy Nature.




Yes. Belief in Jesus Christ, is belief in Holy Spirit.
Belief in Holy Spirit (our Divine Light within), is abandoning our Ego.
If you believe in your Divinity, that everybody possesses, then you stop believing in your Ego.. because there is no difference between you and the other person

Those walls that separate one person from the next need to be dissolved. Because the Truth is, everybody is One, as everybody possesses the Holy Spirit/Divine Light.

So brother, you can’t just say “oh I believe in Jesus Christ (Holy Spirit)”
You have to ensure that you do, by dissolving your Ego.
 
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The sequence is reversed we can't dissolve our ego(sinful nature)

by our own will, no our nature is corrupted from the beginning we just can't,

it is like castrating your desire for woman/man , food, sleep, ....etc.

That is like buddhism , hinduism, greek ascetism, gnostics crap.

So God, became the messiah atoned for our sins which is Jesus Christ being the sacrifice for the sin

and those who believe this is atoned through Jesus Christ because Jesus overcame sin and death and resurrected those who believe in him as well.

Then we receive the Holy Spirit then our sinful nature(ego) is dissolved through new Holy Nature.
Ego is not your idea of sinful nature
And you say simply believing is enough. Okay, then let me ask you, how do you prove your belief? As in what would be difference between somebody believing and somebody not believing?
With thoughts/words alone?
Is thinking “I believe in the Holy Spirit” enough?

A threshold must be crossed of sufficiently high severity. Of great nature to the “self”. It literally cannot be a bigger threshold, because it is to do with “You” - quite literally everything you know

What Ego actually is:
We have a term for this confinement to your finity (human individual), I mentioned earlier. It is called Ego. It's often conflated with Pride or "I am the best/ greatest/ etc"
Pride is the defense mechanism of Ego.
Ego is the idea of I/me as a whole

Once this "I" exists, it operates under the illusion of finity and ends up feeling fragile. It (Ego) wants to feel significant/worthy, so in attempts to inflate itself, it puts on this armour of Pride.
This is the Superiority Ego

Now even if you try to be humble and say “I am not that great/ I could be better”.
That is Ego too
It is called the Inferiority Ego

The Ego does not care if the story is "I'm the best" or "I'm the worst", as long as it gets to be the main character. Self-deprecation (in the latter case), still keeps the focus on the "I".
 
ego is part of your sinful nature.

and yes simply believing is enough it is God that saves you not your works.

If you are talking about works and ascetism stuff??

You are going back to esoteric paganism, buddhism , hinduism stuff

where they castrate and stuff and do those meditation 24/7 and yes that is totally unbibilical


Ego is not your idea of sinful nature
And you say simply believing is enough. Okay, then let me ask you, how do you prove your belief? As in what would be difference between somebody believing and somebody not believing?
With thoughts/words alone?
Is thinking “I believe in the Holy Spirit” enough?

A threshold must be crossed of sufficiently high severity. Of great nature to the “self”. It literally cannot be a bigger threshold, because it is to do with “You” - quite literally everything you know

What Ego actually is:
 
ego is part of your sinful nature.

and yes simply believing is enough it is God that saves you not your works.

If you are talking about works and ascetism stuff??

You are going back to esoteric paganism, buddhism , hinduism stuff.

Firstly asceticism isn’t esoteric (unless Tibetan Buddhism ig) and DEFINITELY is not paganism
Secondly, I disagree with asceticism.

Look there are 2 ways to remove Ego:

1. You remove the walls between you and “others”
Ego is to do with separation. If you remove the walls (that will happen through Compassion and service to others), you will have proven that you see the Divinity/Holy Spirit in others
This is recognising you are everything.
Not the Ego you btw, but the Divine you (the Holy Spirit is everywhere, within everything). All is One

2. You remove yourself entirely
This is what Buddhists do, or some ascetic Hindu sects.
These people focus on the neutral approach of detachment
This is believing you are nothing.

Guess what bro?
Very very very few people in history have had the fortune of understanding this. I haven’t seen anybody piece it logically before though

Both return to the Divine. Because both removed the Ego

But this is where things get interesting.. the Divine is outside the concept of Time (Past, Present, Future), a restriction that is within this Universe.
When the Buddhists (2nd group) return to God, they return to his 0 dimensional state of nothingness. Before creation.
But God created for Blissful Love to exist (highest frequency).
When the 1st group return to God, they return to his state of Blissful Love. What came from nothingness.

The Buddhists are going BACKWARDS by dissolving their Ego, by removing their personal will rather than realigning it with the Divine Will
Now I have no clue whether that means, they’ll have to come back to this reality to become something from nothing, again.

But if there are any Buddhists, you should take route 1 over route 2.

Because think about it logically, let’s say the Buddhist route was the only way:
Group 1 — 99.9% of the way there for Nirvana. Removed Ego completely but just held onto their Divine Light within
Group 2 - 100% complete

Let’s say the convergent of all Spiritual Truths way was true:
Group 1 — 100% complete, merged with what came from nothing - Blissful Love state
Group 2 — (-)100% complete, you merge with God, but you choose the silence over a Blissful Love state + you take a HUGE risk that you won’t come back into creation to become something from nothing again..

The smart option is 1000% go for Group 1 - convergent of all Spiritual Truths


@buddhistking @Swarthy Knight @Chadeep @niggero0 @swaggers
 
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Probably the most successful thing the elites have done
Especially in recent history after the Scientific Revolution, they’ll preach prioritising Science to the masses, whilst behind curtains they’re part of esoteric groups.. trying to accumulate the most Spiritual knowledge

Calling themselves the illumined or enlightened for having knowledge others don’t
It stretches beyond these hidden groups. Even the largest organised religion in the world is built on a bed of lies

The c4.tholic church is an external system.. a middle man used for means of control. Your connection to God does not require a middle man. It should be in its most base form, accessible to ALL.
A direct connection with God, that if is accessible to all, must come from within

The true teachings of Christ, before (they) changed it for control, were:
View attachment 4933305

But they change the translation to include themselves as middle-men:
View attachment 4933308
"within you" --> "among you"


The Truth is, what Christ was preaching, is what the East agrees with too. There was a specific reason Christ was teaching constantly to Love everybody (highest frequency).
There is a specific reason older versions of the Bible (Ethiopian), that haven’t been tampered with, paint the Truth as being internal

A Spiritual Truth that is not necessarily bound to any one specific religion.
It is MUCH more fundamental in nature. It is within, to do with how you perceive your identity, the ultimate base.
And how our inability to merge with the Ocean of Truth stems from a misalignment. A misalligned approach of specifically percieving our own identity - Ego


When will people realise we live in an illusion, a holographic “real”ity.
We are all interconnected. The Divine Light/ Holy Spirit, whatever you call it, resides in us all.

You are everything

Not the “you” you have attributed everything to, thus far.
Dissolve your Ego - the walls of separation, with Love not neutrality.
No mind, only brain

Dnr your psychedelic revelations
 
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Ego is part of your sinful nature so I will say sinful nature.

As I say again, you dissolve your sinful nature because you believe in the Lord Jesus Christ and thus your heart is renewed through Holy Spirit.

You are claiming you dissolve your ego thus you can believe in Jesus Christ

it is other way around.



Firstly asceticism isn’t esoteric (unless Tibetan Buddhism ig) and DEFINITELY is not paganism
Secondly, I disagree with asceticism.

Look there are 2 ways to remove Ego:

1. You remove the walls between you and “others”
Ego is to do with separation. If you remove the walls (that will happen through Compassion and service to others), you will have proven that you see the Divinity/Holy Spirit in others
This is recognising you are everything.
Not the Ego you btw, but the Divine you (the Holy Spirit is everywhere, within everything). All is One

2. You remove yourself entirely
This is what Buddhists do, or some ascetic Hindu sects.
These people focus on the neutral approach of detachment
This is believing you are nothing.

Guess what bro?
Very very very few people in history have had the fortune of understanding this. I haven’t seen anybody piece it logically before though

Both return to the Divine. Because both removed the Ego

But this is where things get interesting.. the Divine is outside the concept of Time (Past, Present, Future), a restriction that is within this Universe.
When the Buddhists (2nd group) return to God, they return to his 0 dimensional state of nothingness. Before creation.
But God created for Blissful Love to exist (highest frequency).
When the 1st group return to God, they return to his state of Blissful Love. What came from nothingness.

The Buddhists are going BACKWARDS by dissolving their Ego, by removing their personal will rather than realigning it with the Divine Will
Now I have no clue whether that means, they’ll have to come back to this reality to become something from nothing, again.

But if there are any Buddhists, you should take route 1 over route 2.

Because think about it logically, let’s say the Buddhist route was the only way:
Group 1 — 99.9% of the way there for Nirvana. Removed Ego completely but just held onto their Divine Light within
Group 2 - 100% complete

Let’s say the convergent of all Spiritual Truths way was true:
Group 1 — 100% complete, merged with what came from nothing - Blissful Love state
Group 2 — (-)100% complete, you merge with God, but you choose the silence over a Blissful Love state + you take a HUGE risk that you won’t come back into creation to become something from nothing again..

The smart option is 1000% go for Group 1 - convergent of all Spiritual Truths


@buddhistking @Swarthy Knight @Chadeep @niggero0 @swaggers
 
Firstly asceticism isn’t esoteric (unless Tibetan Buddhism ig) and DEFINITELY is not paganism
Secondly, I disagree with asceticism.

Look there are 2 ways to remove Ego:

1. You remove the walls between you and “others”
Ego is to do with separation. If you remove the walls (that will happen through Compassion and service to others), you will have proven that you see the Divinity/Holy Spirit in others
This is recognising you are everything.
Not the Ego you btw, but the Divine you (the Holy Spirit is everywhere, within everything). All is One

2. You remove yourself entirely
This is what Buddhists do, or some ascetic Hindu sects.
These people focus on the neutral approach of detachment
This is believing you are nothing.

Guess what bro?
Very very very few people in history have had the fortune of understanding this. I haven’t seen anybody piece it logically before though

Both return to the Divine. Because both removed the Ego

But this is where things get interesting.. the Divine is outside the concept of Time (Past, Present, Future), a restriction that is within this Universe.
When the Buddhists (2nd group) return to God, they return to his 0 dimensional state of nothingness. Before creation.
But God created for Blissful Love to exist (highest frequency).
When the 1st group return to God, they return to his state of Blissful Love. What came from nothingness.

The Buddhists are going BACKWARDS by dissolving their Ego, by removing their personal will rather than realigning it with the Divine Will
Now I have no clue whether that means, they’ll have to come back to this reality to become something from nothing, again.

But if there are any Buddhists, you should take route 1 over route 2.

Because think about it logically, let’s say the Buddhist route was the only way:
Group 1 — 99.9% of the way there for Nirvana. Removed Ego completely but just held onto their Divine Light within
Group 2 - 100% complete

Let’s say the convergent of all Spiritual Truths way was true:
Group 1 — 100% complete, merged with what came from nothing - Blissful Love state
Group 2 — (-)100% complete, you merge with God, but you choose the silence over a Blissful Love state + you take a HUGE risk that you won’t come back into creation to become something from nothing again..

The smart option is 1000% go for Group 1 - convergent of all Spiritual Truths


@buddhistking @Swarthy Knight @Chadeep @niggero0 @swaggers
why did you tag me? lol that's so out of blue considering we never even interacted
 
Ego is part of your sinful nature so I will say sinful nature.

As I say again, you dissolve your sinful nature because you believe in the Lord Jesus Christ and thus your heart is renewed through Holy Spirit.

You are claiming you dissolve your ego thus you can believe in Jesus Christ

it is other way around.
Yes you aren't wrong. You dissolve your sinful nature because you have a direction = your belief in the Holy Spirit, rather than getting caught up in worldly affairs that feed the Ego.
BUT
It is possible to do this even if you have never heard of Holy Spirit/Divine Light. If there is an Amazonian tribesman in the middle of nowhere, you say they have no chance?

The only difference is the % likelihood for success.

What are chances a human born into and under their primal nature (especially to the level of being a tribal member), will Love everybody unconditionally? To do so would put themselves at risk. It is the biggest deciding factor.
Other animals cannot comprehend how to Love the Holy Spirit within everybody unconditionally.
They don't possess the introspection to do so

It is very rare to dissolve Ego without Spiritual knowledge BUT IT IS POSSIBLE

But after you dissolve your Ego with Love, your heart is a mirror for the Divine Light (Holy Spirit) within. You see the unity of everything. All is One
 

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