Weight gain effect on orbital fat

[charliewillascend]

If I go from 6ft 1 and 65kg 16% bf to 85kg (+20kg) and 12%bf how much orbital fat should I expect to gain in the under and upper eye region?

 

[charliewillascend]

Bump

 

[LilJojo]

If I go from 6ft 1 and 65kg 16% bf to 85kg (+20kg) and 12%bf how much orbital fat should I expect to gain in the under and upper eye region?

Getting fatter in terms of weight helps with fat around your eyes but the drawback is you get also fat in other areas of your face, because you said you would be 20+kg and a lower body fat I think you’re putting on muscle but it wouldn’t make a difference on your orbitals.
The muscles would really help though. I still suggest going down to 12% now and bulking, or even lower

 

[charliewillascend]

Getting fatter in terms of weight helps with fat around your eyes but the drawback is you get also fat in other areas of your face, because you said you would be 20+kg and a lower body fat I think you’re putting on muscle but it wouldn’t make a difference on your orbitals.
The muscles would really help though. I still suggest going down to 12% now and bulking, or even lower

Honestly don’t know what to do about it then other then fillers my orbital fat upper eye and under eye is fuckijg terrible I thought it was because I was skinny and genetics and maybe if I gained a few kg it wouldn’t be death tier , weirdly on my left eye it’s not so bad my right eye is worse for some reason, is there any other fix I could try

 

[fluoride1337]

If I go from 6ft 1 and 65kg 16% bf to 85kg (+20kg) and 12%bf how much orbital fat should I expect to gain in the under and upper eye region?

Nigga about to become a feedee to make up for poor uee

Leanmaxxed face with dark circles mogs bloated fatcel with undereye fat to oblivion

 

[charliewillascend]

Nigga about to become a feedee to make up for poor uee

Leanmaxxed face with dark circles mogs bloated fatcel with undereye fat to oblivion

It’s a big insecurity of mine and I really wanna fix it it’s not even about looking better

 

[fluoride1337]

It’s a big insecurity of mine and I really wanna fix it it’s not even about looking better

Just use bb cream then. Gaining 44lbs of fat will descend you so hard. I would think you were trolling if you weren't a greycel

 

[TurboOgre]

If I go from 6ft 1 and 65kg 16% bf to 85kg (+20kg) and 12%bf how much orbital fat should I expect to gain in the under and upper eye region?

We couldn't tell you, and even if it did, gaining 20kg of fat for purely orbitals is incomprehensibly retarded

 

[charliewillascend]

Just use bb cream then. Gaining 44lbs of fat will descend you so hard. I would think you were trolling if you weren't a greycel

Bb cream can you elaborate please? And no I wouldn’t gain 44lbs of fat that’s retarded even for how bad I want to fix it

 

[charliewillascend]

We couldn't tell you, and even if it did, gaining 20kg of fat for purely orbitals is incomprehensibly retarded

I know and I know it’s random where the fat goes and I worked it out I would actually have less fat overall if I did go to 85kg 12% body fat just feeling a bit shit about it and want to cope that there was a natural fix

 

[TurboOgre]

I know and I know it’s random where the fat goes and I worked it out I would actually have less fat overall if I did go to 85kg 12% body fat just feeling a bit shit about it and want to cope that there was a natural fix

PM me your eye area? I doubt it's actually that bad/something fat can fix

 

[charliewillascend]

PM me your eye area? I doubt it's actually that bad/something fat can fix

Sure

 

[appealmaxed]

it’s retarded to gain fair for eye area

keep bf 10-12%

 

[charliewillascend]

it’s retarded to gain fair for eye area

keep bf 10-12%

You’re right, I think it’s my only flaw for eye area anyway I will just get fillers but don’t know how realistic that is as would cost around 2k to get for both upper and under eyes if I get 1ml per area so 4ml in total and I’d want them by the age of 20, do fillers migrate from the eye area?

 

[Kira@]

You’re right, I think it’s my only flaw for eye area anyway I will just get fillers but don’t know how realistic that is as would cost around 2k to get for both upper and under eyes if I get 1ml per area so 4ml in total and I’d want them by the age of 20, do fillers migrate from the eye area?

saddled infraorbital implants for under eyes, fillers are terrible they aren't permanent and migrate after a while to other parts of your face. Implants are only if you're infras are recessed if they are just due to lack of sleep then retinol + coconut oil and 10 hours of sleep daily fixes it

 

[charliewillascend]

saddled infraorbital implants for under eyes, fillers are terrible they aren't permanent and migrate after a while to other parts of your face. Implants are only if you're infras are recessed if they are just due to lack of sleep then retinol + coconut oil and 10 hours of sleep daily fixes it

I usually get 6 hours of sleep so sleep is a problem and I am going to try hydrate them with ( said moisturiser) and I want to go with fillers as implants are like 20k lmao they’re not realistic, I could fill my entire eye area with 2.5ml of fillers off upper and under eyes without risking nerve damage and way cheaper and they last 2 years first time and last longer after each time so around 3 years for second time AND it’s not that much filler so migration isn’t terrible.

 

[charliewillascend]

saddled infraorbital implants for under eyes, fillers are terrible they aren't permanent and migrate after a while to other parts of your face. Implants are only if you're infras are recessed if they are just due to lack of sleep then retinol + coconut oil and 10 hours of sleep daily fixes it

If I got more sleep and moisturised my eyes do you think the effect would be noticeable, ignore my yap before.

 

[Kira@]

I usually get 6 hours of sleep so sleep is a problem and I am going to try hydrate them with ( said moisturiser) and I want to go with fillers as implants are like 20k lmao they’re not realistic, I could fill my entire eye area with 2.5ml of fillers off upper and under eyes without risking nerve damage and way cheaper and they last 2 years first time and last longer after each time so around 3 years for second time AND it’s not that much filler so migration isn’t terrible.

I mean I understand why'd you'd want to get filler since they are cheap and will work temporarily, but the reason why most people here are against filler is because they migrate to other parts of your face which could cause you to look permanently bloated and if that happens I don't think its fixable. Also the risk to nerve damage is very low with implants and they are permanent. If you don't want to get implants the only good option is fat grafting, the exact same thing as fillers except they don't migrate and actually attach to your tissue. Only thing is there is a chance that it gets reabsorbed into your body but I'm pretty sure that's only if you lose a lot of weight.

 

[charliewillascend]

I mean I understand why'd you'd want to get filler since they are cheap and will work temporarily, but the reason why most people here are against filler is because they migrate to other parts of your face which could cause you to look permanently bloated and if that happens I don't think its fixable. Also the risk to nerve damage is very low with implants and they are permanent. If you don't want to get implants the only good option is fat grafting, the exact same thing as fillers except they don't migrate and actually attach to your tissue. Only thing is there is a chance that it gets reabsorbed into your body but I'm pretty sure that's only if you lose a lot of weight.

Yeah and you can fix the migrations btw you can dissolve it with hyauloranase enzyme if your filler was hyaulauronic acid, I see what your saying tbh I just think fillers are cheap, safe, reversible.

 

[Kira@]

If I got more sleep and moisturised my eyes do you think the effect would be noticeable, ignore my yap before.

It depends if your infras are recessed, if you only have dark under eyes yes it will get rid of the dark pigment

 

[charliewillascend]

It depends if your infras are recessed, if you only have dark under eyes yes it will get rid of the dark pigment View attachment 3292496

My infras aren’tt great but I think I just have a lack of fat as that’s what makes the hollow like appearance, what do you think about the upper eye area will the fat there be noticeable

 

[Kira@]

My infras aren’t great but I think I just have a lack of fat as that’s what makes the hollow like appearance

yea that's almost always the case. People with great infras/positive vector never get hollow eyes even if they have almost no fat there the most they will get is dark pigment. The more bone you have supporting it > the less fat you need and vice versa. That's why as a kid you didn't have hollowed eyes since your face has a lot of fat. This is why implants are gonna always be the best option since without the base anything else will be temporary.

what do you think about the upper eye area will the fat there be noticeable

wdym by this?

 

[charliewillascend]

yea that's almost always the case. People with great infras/positive vector never get hollow eyes even if they have almost no fat there the most they will get is dark pigment. The more bone you have supporting it > the less fat you need and vice versa. That's why as a kid you didn't have hollowed eyes since your face has a lot of fat. This is why implants are gonna always be the best option since without the base anything else will be temporary.



wdym by this?

Will I gain fat in my upper eye region so the hooding

 

[charliewillascend]

Will I gain fat in my upper eye region so the hooding

From sleep and hydrating my eyes

 

[Kira@]

From sleep and hydrating my eyes

No, I seen your other thread about weight gain effect on orbital fat which actually does help since thats what I did. Went from insanely skinny to average weight and gained a decent amount of fat around my orbitals. Only works though if you're skinny af unless you wanna be really fat. Also gaining fat on your browridge wont necessarily give you hooded eyes since hooded eyes are basically just browridge projection combined with low set eyebrows, fat only helps a little.

 

[charliewillascend]

No, I seen your other thread about weight gain effect on orbital fat which actually does help since thats what I did. Went from insanely skinny to average weight and gained a decent amount of fat around my orbitals. Only works though if you're skinny af unless you wanna be really fat. Also gaining fat on your browridge wont necessarily give you hooded eyes since hooded eyes are basically just browridge projection combined with low set eyebrows, fat only helps a little.

My problem is like cavil’s not to glaze my self but my brow ridge is very prominent and eyebrows relatively low set but the inner corners of my eyes just have zero fat and would you consider 64kgs at 6ft1 and a wide ish frame to be the level of skinny your on about? My hope is I gain weight and muscle around my body and some of the fat shifts to my eyes and redistributes.

 

[charliewillascend]

My problem is like cavil’s not to glaze my self but my brow ridge is very prominent and eyebrows relatively low set but the inner corners of my eyes just have zero fat and would you consider 64kgs at 6ft1 and a wide ish frame to be the level of skinny your on about? My hope is I gain weight and muscle around my body and some of the fat shifts to my eyes and redistributes.

No, I seen your other thread about weight gain effect on orbital fat which actually does help since thats what I did. Went from insanely skinny to average weight and gained a decent amount of fat around my orbitals. Only works though if you're skinny af unless you wanna be really fat. Also gaining fat on your browridge wont necessarily give you hooded eyes since hooded eyes are basically just browridge projection combined with low set eyebrows, fat only helps a little.

the bmi does say I’m underweight and I think I’m relatively lean as my first time benching without training I was benching a few kgs below my body weight, so not much fat but was still a pathetic bench lol 55kg…. People can do that with one arm

 

[N1666]

Retarded logic. Send a pic of your eye area

 

[Kira@]

My problem is like cavil’s not to glaze my self but my brow ridge is very prominent and eyebrows relatively low set but the inner corners of my eyes just have zero fat and would you consider 64kgs at 6ft1 and a wide ish frame to be the level of skinny your on about? My hope is I gain weight and muscle around my body and some of the fat shifts to my eyes and redistributes.

I mean you could gamble on your fat distribution genes but like the other guy said if you lose bf% when you gain weight you will only gain a bit of orbital fat if any at all. Also yea 64 kg 6'1 sounds pretty skinny so you should gain weight either way.

 

[charliewillascend]

Retarded logic. Send a pic of your eye area

What part of my logic was retarded?

 

[charliewillascend]

I mean you could gamble on your fat distribution genes but like the other guy said if you lose bf% when you gain weight you will only gain a bit of orbital fat if any at all. Also yea 64 kg 6'1 sounds pretty skinny so you should gain weight either way.

I mean my fat distribution for orbital fat couldn’t get any worse tbh I think I will go up to 85 and I think I’ll gain a little bit. My problem which is weird is mainly on my right eye my left eye isn’t as bad is there a reason for this or just uneven fat distribution?

 

[N1666]

What part of my logic was retarded?

You cannot just decide where your fat will go, that’s now how distribution works.

Fat is mainly stored in different depots in the lower/upper body, subcutaneously and in visceral fat. Yes you’ll gain fat in your face, but it’s near impossible to selectively increase fat in your orbital area.

Relationships between body fat distribution and metabolic syndrome traits and outcomes: A mendelian randomization study

Background Obesity is a complex, multifactorial disease associated with substantial morbidity and mortality worldwide. Although it is frequently assessed using BMI, many epidemiological studies have shown links between body fat distribution and obesity-related outcomes. This study examined the...

journals.plos.org

You’d have to go up to 20-25 percent body fat to maybe see an effect on orbital fat, which is diminishing to your looks anyway.
It’s likely you’ll need infra implants or a fat graft, which is why I said to send a picture of your eye area lol

 

[charliewillascend]

You cannot just decide where your fat will go, that’s now how distribution works.

Fat is mainly stored in different depots in the lower/upper body, subcutaneously and in visceral fat. Yes you’ll gain fat in your face, but it’s near impossible to selectively increase fat in your orbital area.

View attachment 3292638

Relationships between body fat distribution and metabolic syndrome traits and outcomes: A mendelian randomization study

Background Obesity is a complex, multifactorial disease associated with substantial morbidity and mortality worldwide. Although it is frequently assessed using BMI, many epidemiological studies have shown links between body fat distribution and obesity-related outcomes. This study examined the...

journals.plos.org

You’d have to go up to 20-25 percent body fat to maybe see an effect on orbital fat, which is diminishing to your looks anyway.
It’s likely you’ll need infra implants or a fat graft, which is why I said to send a picture of your eye area lol

Yeah that is true what your saying and I’m aware of that what we’re saying is for me to gain weight and muscle from 65 to 85kgs and gamble the fact that some of my fat shifts into my orbitals, obviously you can’t control this, (sleep can help) but it’s just a gamble and me gain some muscle isn’t terrible anyway. I’ve seen a few reports of people’s fat distribution changing as they’ve gained kg in muscle although they’ve gone to a lower body fat a few users on here have said. It’s just a gamble really and even if it doesn’t work I will get fillers and I will be ripped so it will be ok

 

[charliewillascend]

You cannot just decide where your fat will go, that’s now how distribution works.

Fat is mainly stored in different depots in the lower/upper body, subcutaneously and in visceral fat. Yes you’ll gain fat in your face, but it’s near impossible to selectively increase fat in your orbital area.

View attachment 3292638

Relationships between body fat distribution and metabolic syndrome traits and outcomes: A mendelian randomization study

Background Obesity is a complex, multifactorial disease associated with substantial morbidity and mortality worldwide. Although it is frequently assessed using BMI, many epidemiological studies have shown links between body fat distribution and obesity-related outcomes. This study examined the...

journals.plos.org

You’d have to go up to 20-25 percent body fat to maybe see an effect on orbital fat, which is diminishing to your looks anyway.
It’s likely you’ll need infra implants or a fat graft, which is why I said to send a picture of your eye area lol

Or maybe the test from gym can grow my supraas lol I have just turned 16 so I am still in puberty ig

 

[N1666]

Yeah that is true what your saying and I’m aware of that what we’re saying is for me to gain weight and muscle from 65 to 85kgs and gamble the fact that some of my fat shifts into my orbitals, obviously you can’t control this, (sleep can help) but it’s just a gamble and me gain some muscle isn’t terrible anyway. I’ve seen a few reports of people’s fat distribution changing as they’ve gained kg in muscle although they’ve gone to a lower body fat a few users on here have said. It’s just a gamble really and even if it doesn’t work I will get fillers and I will be ripped so it will be ok

Gosh greycels are so stubborn. Well good luck with that, I predict you’ll just look like shit (no offence) and there will not be a change in the orbital fat unless you reach near overweight level.

Also fillers are giga shit, read this thread:

Filler = Artificial Fat, Implants = Artificial Bone

Instant Gratification Using filler as bone might look amazing at first, and all of the before and afters on social media that go viral are minutes after. But they WILL eventually flatten out, migrate and cause a bloated/fat appearance which is completely counter productive to the initial goal of...

looksmax.org

 

[6foot3Mediterranean]

go for the infraorbital rim + fatgraft combo

 

[charliewillascend]

Gosh greycels are so stubborn. Well good luck with that, I predict you’ll just look like shit (no offence) and there will not be a change in the orbital fat unless you reach near overweight level.

Also fillers are giga shit, read this thread:

Filler = Artificial Fat, Implants = Artificial Bone

Instant Gratification Using filler as bone might look amazing at first, and all of the before and afters on social media that go viral are minutes after. But they WILL eventually flatten out, migrate and cause a bloated/fat appearance which is completely counter productive to the initial goal of...

looksmax.org

Gosh greycels are so stubborn. Well good luck with that, I predict you’ll just look like shit (no offence) and there will not be a change in the orbital fat unless you reach near overweight level.

Also fillers are giga shit, read this thread:

Filler = Artificial Fat, Implants = Artificial Bone

Instant Gratification Using filler as bone might look amazing at first, and all of the before and afters on social media that go viral are minutes after. But they WILL eventually flatten out, migrate and cause a bloated/fat appearance which is completely counter productive to the initial goal of...

looksmax.org

Are you clinically retarded did you read a thing i fucking put, calling someone a ‘greycel’ isn’t an insult either.

 

[charliewillascend]

go for the infraorbital rim + fatgraft combo

Cost = 40k not realistic

 

[Hey dont talk to me]

is your eyes feel uncomfortable? i dont have hooding and my eyes feel uncomfortable and drop more end of the day

 

[charliewillascend]

is your eyes feel uncomfortable? i dont have hooding and my eyes feel uncomfortable and drop more end of the day

Droop?

 

[charliewillascend]

Droop?

Your actual pupil or eyelid droops? Or are you on about the skin? Send me a picture or could be ptosis

 

[Hey dont talk to me]

Your actual pupil or eyelid droops? Or are you on about the skin? Send me a picture or could be ptosis

drop and swell like ptosis

 

[charliewillascend]

drop and swell like ptosis

If it’s uncomfortable go to your doctor and get it checked I’m not qualified to diagnose anything on here

 

[Hey dont talk to me]

If it’s uncomfortable go to your doctor and get it checked I’m not qualified to diagnose anything on here

no im just checking you have the same issues

 

[N1666]

Are you clinically retarded did you read a thing i fucking put, calling someone a ‘greycel’ isn’t an insult either.

lol I am literally trying to help you, yet you are hurling insults at me. It was clear sarcasm, stop sperging out.

 

[6foot3Mediterranean]

Cost = 40k not realistic

would cost you $5k in a south east asia country or Brazil

 

[charliewillascend]

would cost you $5k in a south east asia country or Brazil

An even more retarded response it’s eye surgery only way a sane person is touching that shit is with a very qualified surgeon, and implants always give nerve damage everyone on here that’s had implants says it

 

[6foot3Mediterranean]

An even more retarded response it’s eye surgery only way a sane person is touching that shit is with a very qualified surgeon, and implants always give nerve damage everyone on here that’s had implants says it

not really