Welcome to Britain's National Organ Lottery

[imontheloose]

If we assume every life has equal worth, and that letting someone die when you could have saved them is at least nominally permitting it, then it is at least somewhat evil to allow patients to die waiting for organs.

Millions have perfectly serviceable organs yet they are buried, burned, or left to fail in bodies that slowly join the receiving end. We still treat kidneys as if they are a some sort of capricious natural resource when they are something we could, in principle, requisition.

Oh boy, the National Organ Lottery has been awaiting you. Once a week, using the same database the NHS already has for GP registration, blood types, and hospital records, a set of healthy adults are randomly selected. A retrieval team arrives, they are sedated, killed, and disassembled; their organs couriered straight into those who would otherwise die in the nearing future. One body in, several out. The human op-amp. The family receives compensation funded by the healthcare costs avoided. Your QALYs were simply redistributed.

Accepting the premise that all lives are equal no longer allows you to claim one has a special claim to continued existence when others can be saved in their place. The inconvenience of being harvested does not outweigh the amount of lives saved.

We could have it nicely played after Friday's Lotto as Saturday's Organ Draw.

@wishIwasSalludon @Jason Voorhees @Gengar @JohnDoe @Mess

 

[Nebelix28]

TLDR?

 

[Leo]

TLDR?

Yeah bro, no1 reading ts

 

[Jason Voorhees]

I like how I'm being tagged in english threads. It's like I've been accepted into a new tribe, into the English tribe by the the English people like I'm one of their own now. I like it. This how human migration and cultural exchange historically happened.

 

[slaters]

TLDR?

If all lives are equal then a world that lets you sacrifice healthy people is okay I think

 

[Nebelix28]

If all lives are equal then a world that lets you sacrifice healthy people is okay I think

I dont understand.

Thanks tho.

 

[imontheloose]

I like how I'm being tagged in english threads. It's like I've been accepted into a new tribe, into the English tribe by the the English people like I'm one of their own now. I like it. This how human migration and cultural exchange historically happened.

> The ethnics of the UK will save Britannia.

 

[slaters]

If it was Jason voorhees ethnics in the uk it’d be a better place

 

[optimisticzoomer]

All lives being equal doesn’t mean you sacrifice others
That’s not equal

 

[slaters]

If it was Jason voorhees ethnics in the uk it’d be a better place

I like how I'm being tagged in english threads. It's like I've been accepted into a new tribe, into the English tribe by the the English people like I'm one of their own now. I like it. This how human migration and cultural exchange historically happened.

 

[imontheloose]

All lives being equal doesn’t mean you sacrifice others
That’s not equal

> No one has a special exemption from risk, you may be struck by a car or chosen by the National Organ Lottery.
> The property of death occurring in all is why equality cannot tell you to always let the already-dying to continue dying and never touch random bystanders.

 

[optimisticzoomer]

> No one has a special exemption from risk, you may be struck by a car or chosen by the National Organ Lottery.
> The property of death occurring in all is why equality cannot tell you to always let the already-dying to continue dying and never touch random bystanders.

Equality is about giving people an equal chance, equal opportunities etc
Not denying nature
L post, unfortunately

 

[imontheloose]

Equality is about giving people an equal chance, equal opportunities etc
Not denying nature
L post, unfortunately

First line is far more towards equity than this post obviously points at. That's an intentional shift from the definition I particularly implied.

Nature is not a good nor bad thing, it is neutral like all. Nature exists via a very harsh mechanism. Denying rape is a denial of nature, is the very same thing. It has no valid basis at all. Your dutasteride was made to combat nature's effects on you, like all medicine including glasses despite not being a medicine.

 

[Nectar]

Money back guaranteed?

 

[chadisbeingmade]

First line is far more towards equity than this post obviously points at. That's an intentional shift from the definition I particularly implied.

Nature is not a good nor bad thing, it is neutral like all. Nature exists via a very harsh mechanism. Denying rape is a denial of nature, is the very same thing. It has no valid basis at all. Your dutasteride was made to combat nature's effects on you, like all medicine including glasses despite not being a medicine.

optimisticzoomers dutasteride came from a plant bro

nothing not natty about that guy

 

[imontheloose]

Money back guaranteed?

go back to old name now pls. i had no idea who u were then, i was confused why i followed u

 

[Nectar]

go back to old name now pls. i had no idea who u were then, i was confused why i followed u

Nah let's be real my original name was shite

 

[imontheloose]

Nah let's be real my original name was shite

it was but it was UR little retarded name

 

[Nectar]

it was but it was UR little retarded name

Tru I did also get clowned a lot for it and many were thinking I was a huge wanker for having it or some foid

 

[optimisticzoomer]

First line is far more towards equity than this post obviously points at. That's an intentional shift from the definition I particularly implied.

Nature is not a good nor bad thing, it is neutral like all. Nature exists via a very harsh mechanism. Denying rape is a denial of nature, is the very same thing. It has no valid basis at all. Your dutasteride was made to combat nature's effects on you, like all medicine including glasses despite not being a medicine.

I don’t get what you’re getting at
I never said we couldn’t fight nature
I just said doing so, at the expense of others, isn’t equality
Nor is it equity

 

[wishIwasSalludon]

If we assume every life has equal worth, and that letting someone die when you could have saved them is at least nominally permitting it, then it is at least somewhat evil to allow patients to die waiting for organs.

Millions have perfectly serviceable organs yet they are buried, burned, or left to fail in bodies that slowly join the receiving end. We still treat kidneys as if they are a some sort of capricious natural resource when they are something we could, in principle, requisition.

Oh boy, the National Organ Lottery has been awaiting you. Once a week, using the same database the NHS already has for GP registration, blood types, and hospital records, a set of healthy adults are randomly selected. A retrieval team arrives, they are sedated, killed, and disassembled; their organs couriered straight into those who would otherwise die in the nearing future. One body in, several out. The human op-amp. The family receives compensation funded by the healthcare costs avoided. Your QALYs were simply redistributed.

Accepting the premise that all lives are equal no longer allows you to claim one has a special claim to continued existence when others can be saved in their place. The inconvenience of being harvested does not outweigh the amount of lives saved.

We could have it nicely played after Friday's Lotto as Saturday's Organ Draw.

@wishIwasSalludon @Jason Voorhees @Gengar @JohnDoe @Mess

 

[imontheloose]

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[FredoEstelar]

If all lives are equal, we're living under communism.

 

[wishIwasSalludon]

I suppose it would depend on which you consider a greater evil. Its the common consensus that when given two "evil" actions you should choose the less evil one. If you had to choose between stealing a candy bar from the corner store or beheading a 5 yr old which would you choose? There is also somewhat of a consensus that the dead have some moral weight, if someone's grandpa died then I went to the funeral and pissed on the corpse the consensus is that it is disrespectful to do that to the dead person.

So if we have a recently dead person with viable organs and someone dying of organ failure even if we believe lives are equal we still cant conclude that we should not let the person die of organ failure. It would indeed be evil to let said person die of organ failure but you could also argue it is evil to rob the corpse of their organs. So which choice is made? The less evil one of course.

 

[wishIwasSalludon]

If all lives are equal, we're living under communism.

All lives are unironically equal, the statement that lives aren't equal would imply there is some intent behind life giving one life more value. Which I don't really believe in, ontologically speaking lives are equal but I don't epistemically think lives are equal.

 

[JohnDoe]

This sounds the premise for a movie. Bonglands national organ harvesting day. All undesirables step forward. Maybe they should start choosing random people on bennies or disability.

 

[imontheloose]

I suppose it would depend on which you consider a greater evil. Its the common consensus that when given two "evil" actions you should choose the less evil one. If you had to choose between stealing a candy bar from the corner store or beheading a 5 yr old which would you choose? There is also somewhat of a consensus that the dead have some moral weight, if someone's grandpa died then I went to the funeral and pissed on the corpse the consensus is that it is disrespectful to do that to the dead person.

So if we have a recently dead person with viable organs and someone dying of organ failure even if we believe lives are equal we still cant conclude that we should not let the person die of organ failure. It would indeed be evil to let said person die of organ failure but you could also argue it is evil to rob the corpse of their organs. So which choice is made? The less evil one of course.

pissing on graves is onyl seen as bad bc other ppl alive view it as mean. no harm is being done in reality so even utility belief systems dont rlly cr.

im not saying to rob the corpse, im saying to kill a randomly healthy individual and save several lives using his organs. as far as utility goes, this is based.

 

[imontheloose]

All lives are unironically equal, the statement that lives aren't equal would imply there is some intent behind life giving one life more value. Which I don't really believe in, ontologically speaking lives are equal but I don't epistemically think lives are equal.

tru but this could just mean lives are worth nothing yet all have equally unworthy lives

 

[Hunter]

If we assume every life has equal worth, and that letting someone die when you could have saved them is at least nominally permitting it, then it is at least somewhat evil to allow patients to die waiting for organs.

Millions have perfectly serviceable organs yet they are buried, burned, or left to fail in bodies that slowly join the receiving end. We still treat kidneys as if they are a some sort of capricious natural resource when they are something we could, in principle, requisition.

Oh boy, the National Organ Lottery has been awaiting you. Once a week, using the same database the NHS already has for GP registration, blood types, and hospital records, a set of healthy adults are randomly selected. A retrieval team arrives, they are sedated, killed, and disassembled; their organs couriered straight into those who would otherwise die in the nearing future. One body in, several out. The human op-amp. The family receives compensation funded by the healthcare costs avoided. Your QALYs were simply redistributed.

Accepting the premise that all lives are equal no longer allows you to claim one has a special claim to continued existence when others can be saved in their place. The inconvenience of being harvested does not outweigh the amount of lives saved.

We could have it nicely played after Friday's Lotto as Saturday's Organ Draw.

@wishIwasSalludon @Jason Voorhees @Gengar @JohnDoe @Mess

not very ethical is it?

 

[imontheloose]

not very ethical is it?

y

 

[inversions]

Is this real

I dont want to die

 

[imontheloose]

Is this real

I dont want to die

ull be exempt if u put cat ears on

 

[Olympus]

I like how I'm being tagged in english threads. It's like I've been accepted into a new tribe, into the English tribe by the the English people like I'm one of their own now. I like it. This how human migration and cultural exchange historically happened.

You don’t wanna be here

 

[ihatereddit]

what if the NOL gave you a free BBC?

 

[Hunter]

y

*yay*- more strain on the nhs!!!
it’s not ethical for obvious reasons, being that
your dehumanising people almost as if you see them as a currency that goes against them this idea lacks bodily integrity and autonomy
have you taken into account how high transplant rejection is for the liver or lungs? lol
even so they would have to have immunosuppressant drugs that weaken the immune system duhh and think about the effect of this on the nation? due to shitty cold weather conditions and terrible hygiene in some areas the chance of someone not getting ill is low (i’m basically saying even if organs are donated and a transplant is succesfull more money has to be spent on medication funded by the nhs)
“As of March 2025, there are over 8,000 people on the UK's active transplant waiting list, with nearly 4,000 more temporarily suspended from the list
. This means that almost 12,000 people are currently waiting for a transplant”

atleast 7000+ people without a job could be detremental to the economy.

“If we assume every life has equal worth, and that letting someone die when you could have saved them is at least nominally permitting it, then it is at least somewhat evil to allow patients to die waiting for organs.

“assume” -you know this will never happen lol

they are sedated, killed, and disassembled; their organs couriered straight into those who would otherwise die in the nearing future. One body in, several out. The human op-amp. The family receives compensation funded by the healthcare costs avoided. Your QALYs were simply redistributed.

No amount of money is worth a life even if it’s to save others. The only exception would be if someone is brain dead

Accepting the premise that all lives are equal no longer allows you to claim one has a special claim to continued existence when others can be saved in their place. The inconvenience of being harvested does not outweigh the amount of lives saved.

all lives aren’t equal tho .
you might be thinking rationally but everyone normal human who isn’t suicidal, nihilist and is some sort of psycho/sociopath like you aren’t gonna do this otherwise this idea would have already been implemented lol.
mabye you should start a facebook page and advertise this idea across social media.
the only people who join will be social rejects, suicidal people, psychopaths, sociopath and retards like you.

tldr:
hahah nigga i ain’t making this easy for you.
i also doubt half of this makes sense cause i’m doing some buisness hwk lol but read it

 

[imontheloose]

*yay*- more strain on the nhs!!!
it’s not ethical for obvious reasons, being that
your dehumanising people almost as if you see them as a currency that goes against them this idea lacks bodily integrity and autonomy
have you taken into account how high transplant rejection is for the liver or lungs? lol
even so they would have to have immunosuppressant drugs that weaken the immune system duhh and think about the effect of this on the nation? due to shitty cold weather conditions and terrible hygiene in some areas the chance of someone not getting ill is low (i’m basically saying even if organs are donated and a transplant is succesfull more money has to be spent on medication funded by the nhs)
“As of March 2025, there are over 8,000 people on the UK's active transplant waiting list, with nearly 4,000 more temporarily suspended from the list
. This means that almost 12,000 people are currently waiting for a transplant”

atleast 7000+ people without a job could be detremental to the economy.

“assume” -you know this will never happen lol

No amount of money is worth a life even if it’s to save others. The only exception would be if someone is brain dead

all lives aren’t equal tho .
you might be thinking rationally but everyone normal human who isn’t suicidal, nihilist and is some sort of psycho/sociopath like you aren’t gonna do this otherwise this idea would have already been implemented lol.
mabye you should start a facebook page and advertise this idea across social media.
the only people who join will be social rejects, suicidal people, psychopaths, sociopath and retards like you.

tldr:
hahah nigga i ain’t making this easy for you.
i also doubt half of this makes sense cause i’m doing some buisness hwk lol but read it

pseudo intellectualism. tell me ur ethical standard, u cant say "dehumanising ppl to a currency" is evil for no reason. r u actually stupid? have u ever had a philosophical discussion b4? 7000+ ppl without jobs isnt breaking the economy either.

i said asusme bc its what u do in science and philosophy. its so u cant just say "well i sont subscribe". plus, most believe in value of all humans being equal anyway.

why is life valuable? ur just a retard spewing meaningless slop. why is brain death now an exception? just retarded emotivism without reason

and yeh, welcome to an exaggerated view point. this is called philosophy and its how we have fun discussions. ur probably the stupidest user on the forum right now. this isnt going to happen in reality dumbass and it is a fun moral exercise.

ofc ur a business student. nothing but a glorified paper scribber.

provide actual standards. not 1 person on this forum knows who u r or thinks ur worth anything.

 

[Hunter]

pseudo intellectualism. tell me ur ethical standard, u cant say "dehumanising ppl to a currency" is evil for no reason. r u actually stupid? have u ever had a philosophical discussion b4? 7000+ ppl without jobs isnt breaking the economy either.

i said asusme bc its what u do in science and philosophy. its so u cant just say "well i sont subscribe". plus, most believe in value of all humans being equal anyway.

why is life valuable? ur just a retard spewing meaningless slop. why is brain death now an exception? just retarded emotivism without reason

and yeh, welcome to an exaggerated view point. this is called philosophy and its how we have fun discussions. ur probably the stupidest user on the forum right now. this isnt going to happen in reality dumbass and it is a fun moral exercise.

ofc ur a business student. nothing but a glorified paper scribber.

provide actual standards. not 1 person on this forum knows who u r or thinks ur worth anything.

mhm life is death

 

[enriquecuador]

pseudo intellectualism. tell me ur ethical standard, u cant say "dehumanising ppl to a currency" is evil for no reason. r u actually stupid? have u ever had a philosophical discussion b4? 7000+ ppl without jobs isnt breaking the economy either.

i said asusme bc its what u do in science and philosophy. its so u cant just say "well i sont subscribe". plus, most believe in value of all humans being equal anyway.

why is life valuable? ur just a retard spewing meaningless slop. why is brain death now an exception? just retarded emotivism without reason

and yeh, welcome to an exaggerated view point. this is called philosophy and its how we have fun discussions. ur probably the stupidest user on the forum right now. this isnt going to happen in reality dumbass and it is a fun moral exercise.

ofc ur a business student. nothing but a glorified paper scribber.

provide actual standards. not 1 person on this forum knows who u r or thinks ur worth anything.

@Hunter is smarter than you

Talking about some “pseudo intellectualism”

Sounds like something said in a year 9 philosophy class to seem edgy

 

[imontheloose]

mhm life is death

infantile retard

 

[imontheloose]

@Hunter is smarter than you

Talking about some “pseudo intellectualism”

Sounds like something said in a year 9 philosophy class to seem edgy

lmao who the fuck r u? y did u appear to suck off some random who cant make a coherent point without making shit up. i have no idea who any of u useless dogs r.

what is so clever exactly apart from u 2 bowing to one another?

 

[Hunter]

infantile retard

sure whatever floats your boat

.

why is life valuable? ur just a retard spewing meaningless slop. why is brain death now an exception? just retarded emotivism without reason

personally i think it’s a good example cause most brain dead people if they had the option to would rather have life support turned of than the idea of oneself suffering

 

[enriquecuador]

lmao who the fuck r u? y did u appear to suck off some random who cant make a coherent point without making shit up. i have no idea who any of u useless dogs r.

what is so clever exactly apart from u 2 bowing to one another?

No I just saw your retarded post

Stop trynna be like Hugo strange or some evil scientist

There’s always some weird kid like you in class JFL

 

[imontheloose]

personally i think it’s a good example cause most brain dead people if they had the option to would rather have life support turned of than the idea of oneself suffering

whats the standard? where do u get it from? what is ur belief system? how is 7000 ppl dying affecting the 35 million work force?

 

[Hunter]

lmao who the fuck r u? y did u appear to suck off some random who cant make a coherent point without making shit up. i have no idea who any of u useless dogs r.

what is so clever exactly apart from u 2 bowing to one another?

why do you feel a sense of authority?
I only know you as the user who failed to kill himself or some shit or atleast that’s what i’ve been lead to believe

 

[imontheloose]

No I just saw your retarded post

Stop trynna be like Hugo strange or some evil scientist

There’s always some weird kid like you in class JFL

how is it retarded or performative? this is a fun moral problem. if u dont like it, u dont need to enter n bark for ur thick fuck of a fren. what an utter embarrassment u r

 

[Hunter]

whats the standard? where do u get it from? what is ur belief system? how is 7000 ppl dying affecting the 35 million work force?

Cause 7000 thousand + people dying is 7000 thousand less than 35 million.

 

[Hunter]

how is it retarded or performative? this is a fun moral problem. if u dont like it, u dont need to enter n bark for ur thick fuck of a fren. what an utter embarrassment u r

the problem is idk if i should take you seriously as your very extreme and glorified as some megamind on the forum

 

[enriquecuador]

how is it retarded or performative? this is a fun moral problem. if u dont like it, u dont need to enter n bark for ur thick fuck of a fren. what an utter embarrassment u r

I’m not barking for anyone

I simply said he is right JFL

It’s hardly a moral problem let’s be real

Also if it did happen it would never work

Let’s say you see that you are on the draw and will be “harvested”

No way you aren’t going on a rampage or holdikg someone hostage or something

I mean people would be doing whatever they want

Unless of course you wanna lock people up now as well

 

[imontheloose]

I’m not barking for anyone

I simply said he is right JFL

It’s hardly a moral problem let’s be real

Also if it did happen it would never work

Let’s say you see that you are on the draw and will be “harvested”

No way you aren’t going on a rampage or holdikg someone hostage or something

I mean people would be doing whatever they want

Unless of course you wanna lock people up now as well

this ofc isnt happening. its a silly problem like all these intentionally strange takes r. its meant 4 ppl to share y they think it would be wrong. the point is that it is intuitively evil at first.

 

[imontheloose]

why do you feel a sense of authority?
I only know you as the user who failed to kill himself or some shit or atleast that’s what i’ve been lead to believe

@imontheloose

:feelswhy::feelswhy: @imontheloose

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u made a thread abt me that got ignored whilst i dont even know who u r